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    Posted: Apr. 18, 2024 - 11:47 PM ET #576

    an_police Agreeing with Joe Biden!

     

    Republican house speaker, Mike Johnson, responding to questions about him approving Biden's aid packages

     

    “Since World War II, the responsibility for the free world
    has been shifted onto our shoulders. And we accept
    that role. We’re an exceptional nation.”
    “We’re the greatest nation on the planet, and we have
    to act like it. And we have to project to Putin and Xi
    and Iran and North Korea and anybody else
    that WE will defend freedom!” 

                                                  - republican house speaker, Mike Johnson

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    an_police Agreeing with Joe Biden!

     

    Republican house speaker, Mike Johnson, responding to questions about him approving Biden's aid packages

     

    “Since World War II, the responsibility for the free world
    has been shifted onto our shoulders. And we accept
    that role. We’re an exceptional nation.”
    “We’re the greatest nation on the planet, and we have
    to act like it. And we have to project to Putin and Xi
    and Iran and North Korea and anybody else
    that WE will defend freedom!” 

                                                  - republican house speaker, Mike Johnson

     
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    Posted: Apr. 18, 2024 - 11:48 PM ET #577

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbarossa:

    @KellyM_1964   @fubah2  Iran and Israel are now in a full blown war , and we could face global nuclear war ,   can you guys confirm that Joe Biden is awake ?   Futures are tumbling , Oil and Gold soaring , on a side note

    This is so sad as we'd never be in this situation with Trump calling the shots. Biden will call a lid early and you will most likely not hear from him till next week.

    This is the lead-from-behind President and what happens when you have this type of bad leadership.

    Absolutely a horror show!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barbarossa:

    @KellyM_1964   @fubah2  Iran and Israel are now in a full blown war , and we could face global nuclear war ,   can you guys confirm that Joe Biden is awake ?   Futures are tumbling , Oil and Gold soaring , on a side note

    This is so sad as we'd never be in this situation with Trump calling the shots. Biden will call a lid early and you will most likely not hear from him till next week.

    This is the lead-from-behind President and what happens when you have this type of bad leadership.

    Absolutely a horror show!

     
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    Posted: Apr. 18, 2024 - 11:50 PM ET #578

    Agreeing with Joe Biden!

     

    Republican house speaker, Mike Johnson, responding to questions about him approving Biden's aid packages

     

    “We are going to stand by Israel, our close ally
    and dear friend, and we’re going to stand for FREEDOM
    and MAKE SURE that Vladimir Putin doesn’t march
    through Europe! These are important responsibilities!”

     

       - republican house speaker, Mike Johnson, AGREEING WITH BIDEN!

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    Agreeing with Joe Biden!

     

    Republican house speaker, Mike Johnson, responding to questions about him approving Biden's aid packages

     

    “We are going to stand by Israel, our close ally
    and dear friend, and we’re going to stand for FREEDOM
    and MAKE SURE that Vladimir Putin doesn’t march
    through Europe! These are important responsibilities!”

     

       - republican house speaker, Mike Johnson, AGREEING WITH BIDEN!

     
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    Posted: Apr. 19, 2024 - 12:45 PM ET #579

    In House, 165 democrats join 151 republicans in voting for foreign aid package for Ukraine, Israel and Pacific region.  Finally, months of Biden administration courting speaker Johnson seem to be working.  Meanwhile republican Pence warns that Putin would target a NATO country next if he is successful in Ukraine.

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    In House, 165 democrats join 151 republicans in voting for foreign aid package for Ukraine, Israel and Pacific region.  Finally, months of Biden administration courting speaker Johnson seem to be working.  Meanwhile republican Pence warns that Putin would target a NATO country next if he is successful in Ukraine.

     
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    Posted: Apr. 19, 2024 - 12:58 PM ET #580

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Agreeing with Joe Biden!   Republican house speaker, Mike Johnson, responding to questions about him approving Biden's aid packages   “We are going to stand by Israel, our close ally and dear friend, and we’re going to stand for FREEDOM and MAKE SURE that Vladimir Putin doesn’t march through Europe! These are important responsibilities!”      - republican house speaker, Mike Johnson, AGREEING WITH BIDEN!

    Fubah, it's good to see the advancing of this foreign aid pack to a final Congress vote on Saturday. Ukraine, Israel and Taiwan need the aid to defend themselves, in return it's in accordance with the U.S. national security.  

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Agreeing with Joe Biden!   Republican house speaker, Mike Johnson, responding to questions about him approving Biden's aid packages   “We are going to stand by Israel, our close ally and dear friend, and we’re going to stand for FREEDOM and MAKE SURE that Vladimir Putin doesn’t march through Europe! These are important responsibilities!”      - republican house speaker, Mike Johnson, AGREEING WITH BIDEN!

    Fubah, it's good to see the advancing of this foreign aid pack to a final Congress vote on Saturday. Ukraine, Israel and Taiwan need the aid to defend themselves, in return it's in accordance with the U.S. national security.  

     
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    Posted: Apr. 19, 2024 - 1:23 PM ET #581

    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Agreeing with Joe Biden!   Republican house speaker, Mike Johnson, responding to questions about him approving Biden's aid packages   “We are going to stand by Israel, our close ally and dear friend, and we’re going to stand for FREEDOM and MAKE SURE that Vladimir Putin doesn’t march through Europe! These are important responsibilities!”      - republican house speaker, Mike Johnson, AGREEING WITH BIDEN! Fubah, it's good to see the advancing of this foreign aid pack to a final Congress vote on Saturday. Ukraine, Israel and Taiwan need the aid to defend themselves, in return it's in accordance with the U.S. national security.

     i am also pleased to see the aid bill got passed

     

    peace_5 europa is back !! thumbs_up an_clap

     

     

     

     

    "I'm the MOST HONEST human being that GOD EVER created!" - Donald "the felon" Trump
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    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Agreeing with Joe Biden!   Republican house speaker, Mike Johnson, responding to questions about him approving Biden's aid packages   “We are going to stand by Israel, our close ally and dear friend, and we’re going to stand for FREEDOM and MAKE SURE that Vladimir Putin doesn’t march through Europe! These are important responsibilities!”      - republican house speaker, Mike Johnson, AGREEING WITH BIDEN! Fubah, it's good to see the advancing of this foreign aid pack to a final Congress vote on Saturday. Ukraine, Israel and Taiwan need the aid to defend themselves, in return it's in accordance with the U.S. national security.

     i am also pleased to see the aid bill got passed

     

    peace_5 europa is back !! thumbs_up an_clap

     

     

     

     

     
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    Posted: Apr. 19, 2024 - 1:34 PM ET #582

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    In House, 165 democrats join 151 republicans in voting for foreign aid package for Ukraine, Israel and Pacific region.  Finally, months of Biden administration courting speaker Johnson seem to be working.  Meanwhile republican Pence warns that Putin would target a NATO country next if he is successful in Ukraine.

    Followup to Thirdperson's peace_5 first look at this interview . . .

     

    an_police Trump's VP Pence warns that Putin WILL attack             a NATO nation if he overruns Ukraine

    “ I have no doubt in my mind having met Putin
    that if he were allowed to overrun Ukraine, it would
    not be long before he crossed the border of a NATO
    country where our men and women in uniform would
    be required to fight,”  he told CNN’s Jake Tapper.

     

    **IOW, we must support UKRAINE with weapons NOW to prevent us having to put OUR boots on the ground later in a disasterous war.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    In House, 165 democrats join 151 republicans in voting for foreign aid package for Ukraine, Israel and Pacific region.  Finally, months of Biden administration courting speaker Johnson seem to be working.  Meanwhile republican Pence warns that Putin would target a NATO country next if he is successful in Ukraine.

    Followup to Thirdperson's peace_5 first look at this interview . . .

     

    an_police Trump's VP Pence warns that Putin WILL attack             a NATO nation if he overruns Ukraine

    “ I have no doubt in my mind having met Putin
    that if he were allowed to overrun Ukraine, it would
    not be long before he crossed the border of a NATO
    country where our men and women in uniform would
    be required to fight,”  he told CNN’s Jake Tapper.

     

    **IOW, we must support UKRAINE with weapons NOW to prevent us having to put OUR boots on the ground later in a disasterous war.

     
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    Posted: Apr. 19, 2024 - 1:58 PM ET #583

    @thirdperson

     Meanwhile republican Pence warns that Putin would target a NATO country next if he is successful in Ukraine.

     

    an_roll_laughan_roll_laughan_roll_laugh   

    Misinformation can be a dangerous thing.... 

    The clowns of the world continue to spread fear and lies about Russia conquering Europe like we are living in 1914.  Russia's "Special Military Operation", has been going on for 3 plus years....2 years of actual conflict where pretty much nothing except men dying in old school trench warfare has occured.  This is a war of attrition by design.  Ukraine, specifically Eastern, is full of ethnic Russians.  Putin has made no effort to "destroy and conquer Ukraine" because that is not and was not ever his goal.  If Russia wanted to take ALL of Ukraine they easily could've done so but it would've resulted in way much collateral damage (Cities and civilians).  That also would've escalated the West's "proxy" war to a "hot" war and that is not what Putin wants.  Russia's SMO is just part II of the previous SMO to take Crimea.  They now have control (have had since the initial move into Ukraine) over the entire Eastern border, creating a buffer between what is now "Western / NATO" controlled Ukraine and Russia.  All of Ukraine used to be the buffer between Russia and the West.  Since the West took over Ukraine, eliminating the buffer, Russia has now created their own buffer state. 

    Mission accomplished, now all they are doing is bleeding US and Western resources while we dummies get sucked into another Middle East conflict of someone else's design.... China just kicking it in the background waiting till the US signals its OK to regain Taiwan.  Good times as WWIII is currently in progress.  

    Time is a flat circle....
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    @thirdperson

     Meanwhile republican Pence warns that Putin would target a NATO country next if he is successful in Ukraine.

     

    an_roll_laughan_roll_laughan_roll_laugh   

    Misinformation can be a dangerous thing.... 

    The clowns of the world continue to spread fear and lies about Russia conquering Europe like we are living in 1914.  Russia's "Special Military Operation", has been going on for 3 plus years....2 years of actual conflict where pretty much nothing except men dying in old school trench warfare has occured.  This is a war of attrition by design.  Ukraine, specifically Eastern, is full of ethnic Russians.  Putin has made no effort to "destroy and conquer Ukraine" because that is not and was not ever his goal.  If Russia wanted to take ALL of Ukraine they easily could've done so but it would've resulted in way much collateral damage (Cities and civilians).  That also would've escalated the West's "proxy" war to a "hot" war and that is not what Putin wants.  Russia's SMO is just part II of the previous SMO to take Crimea.  They now have control (have had since the initial move into Ukraine) over the entire Eastern border, creating a buffer between what is now "Western / NATO" controlled Ukraine and Russia.  All of Ukraine used to be the buffer between Russia and the West.  Since the West took over Ukraine, eliminating the buffer, Russia has now created their own buffer state. 

    Mission accomplished, now all they are doing is bleeding US and Western resources while we dummies get sucked into another Middle East conflict of someone else's design.... China just kicking it in the background waiting till the US signals its OK to regain Taiwan.  Good times as WWIII is currently in progress.  

     
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    Posted: Apr. 19, 2024 - 2:26 PM ET #584

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    an_policeTrump's VP Pence warns that Putin WILL attack             a NATO nation if he overruns Ukraine

    “ I have no doubt in my mind having met Putin
    that if he were allowed to overrun Ukraine, it would
    not be long before he crossed the border of a NATO
    country where our men and women in uniform would
    be required to fight,”  he told CNN’s Jake Tapper.

     

    **IOW, we must support UKRAINE with weapons NOW to prevent us having to put OUR boots on the ground later in a disasterous war.

     

    **IOW, we must support UKRAINE with weapons NOW to prevent us having to put OUR boots on the ground later in a disasterous war.


    “Now’s a moment where the United States of America
    needs to square our shoulders. We need to recognize
    we are the leader of the free world. And we need to
    step into this moment, send a deafening message –
    not just to Russia and Vladimir Putin, Jake –
    but also renew our support to our cherished ally Israel,
    support Taiwan and also send a very clear message to
    the mullahs in Tehran, and frankly to President Xi in Beijing,
    that America is going to stand FIRM for freedom,” Pence added.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    an_policeTrump's VP Pence warns that Putin WILL attack             a NATO nation if he overruns Ukraine

    “ I have no doubt in my mind having met Putin
    that if he were allowed to overrun Ukraine, it would
    not be long before he crossed the border of a NATO
    country where our men and women in uniform would
    be required to fight,”  he told CNN’s Jake Tapper.

     

    **IOW, we must support UKRAINE with weapons NOW to prevent us having to put OUR boots on the ground later in a disasterous war.

     

    **IOW, we must support UKRAINE with weapons NOW to prevent us having to put OUR boots on the ground later in a disasterous war.


    “Now’s a moment where the United States of America
    needs to square our shoulders. We need to recognize
    we are the leader of the free world. And we need to
    step into this moment, send a deafening message –
    not just to Russia and Vladimir Putin, Jake –
    but also renew our support to our cherished ally Israel,
    support Taiwan and also send a very clear message to
    the mullahs in Tehran, and frankly to President Xi in Beijing,
    that America is going to stand FIRM for freedom,” Pence added.

     
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    Posted: Apr. 19, 2024 - 7:35 PM ET #585

    Republican MIKE JOHNSON

    “The responsibility for the free world has been
    shifted onto our shoulders,” he said, adding
    US troops would NOT be committed in Ukraine.
    “We’re not the world’s policeman.”

    an_light  Johnson defended his plan and argued that
    the vast majority of $60 billion in Ukraine aid
    would go to US defense contractors!

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    Republican MIKE JOHNSON

    “The responsibility for the free world has been
    shifted onto our shoulders,” he said, adding
    US troops would NOT be committed in Ukraine.
    “We’re not the world’s policeman.”

    an_light  Johnson defended his plan and argued that
    the vast majority of $60 billion in Ukraine aid
    would go to US defense contractors!

     
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    Posted: Apr. 19, 2024 - 9:48 PM ET #586

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Trump's VP Pence warns that Putin WILL attack             a NATO nation if he overruns Ukraine

    “ I have no doubt in my mind having met Putin
    that if he were allowed to overrun Ukraine, it would
    not be long before he crossed the border of a NATO
    country where our men and women in uniform would
    be required to fight,”  he told CNN’s Jake Tapper.

    pence saying the understood part  out loud an_clap

     

     

    "I'm the MOST HONEST human being that GOD EVER created!" - Donald "the felon" Trump
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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Trump's VP Pence warns that Putin WILL attack             a NATO nation if he overruns Ukraine

    “ I have no doubt in my mind having met Putin
    that if he were allowed to overrun Ukraine, it would
    not be long before he crossed the border of a NATO
    country where our men and women in uniform would
    be required to fight,”  he told CNN’s Jake Tapper.

    pence saying the understood part  out loud an_clap

     

     

     
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    Posted: Apr. 19, 2024 - 9:57 PM ET #587

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Republican MIKE JOHNSON “The responsibility for the free world has been shifted onto our shoulders,” he said, adding US troops would NOT be committed in Ukraine. “We’re not the world’s policeman.”   Johnson defended his plan and argued that the vast majority of $60 billion in Ukraine aid would go to US defense contractors!

    MIKE JOHNSON:

    Jonson told reporters on Wednesday evening,
    while making the case that military aid for Ukraine
    was NOW CRITICAL, [agreeing with Democrats]

    “I’m doing here what I believe to be the right thing.”

     

    an_clap   an_cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Republican MIKE JOHNSON “The responsibility for the free world has been shifted onto our shoulders,” he said, adding US troops would NOT be committed in Ukraine. “We’re not the world’s policeman.”   Johnson defended his plan and argued that the vast majority of $60 billion in Ukraine aid would go to US defense contractors!

    MIKE JOHNSON:

    Jonson told reporters on Wednesday evening,
    while making the case that military aid for Ukraine
    was NOW CRITICAL, [agreeing with Democrats]

    “I’m doing here what I believe to be the right thing.”

     

    an_clap   an_cheers

     
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    @KellyM_1964

    Good to chat with you again in here, I have been frequently lurking this forum. Just did not post as much as before, I'm cautiously optimistic on this November's election for the democracy in this country. clover

    Also, glad to see good 'ol members around! 

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    @KellyM_1964

    Good to chat with you again in here, I have been frequently lurking this forum. Just did not post as much as before, I'm cautiously optimistic on this November's election for the democracy in this country. clover

    Also, glad to see good 'ol members around! 

     
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    Posted: Apr. 20, 2024 - 2:26 PM ET #589

    "Thank you America"--Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelenskyy

    US Congress has just passed the $95 billion Foreign Aid Bill. 

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    "Thank you America"--Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelenskyy

    US Congress has just passed the $95 billion Foreign Aid Bill. 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:

    Fubah, it's good to see the advancing of this foreign aid pack to a final Congress vote on Saturday. Ukraine, Israel and Taiwan need the aid to defend themselves, in return it's in accordance with the U.S. national security.

    @Europa

     Hey buddy!! peace_5 Great to see you back...and well I presume! an_cheers

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:

    Fubah, it's good to see the advancing of this foreign aid pack to a final Congress vote on Saturday. Ukraine, Israel and Taiwan need the aid to defend themselves, in return it's in accordance with the U.S. national security.

    @Europa

     Hey buddy!! peace_5 Great to see you back...and well I presume! an_cheers

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:

    "Thank you America"--Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelenskyy US Congress has just passed the $95 billion Foreign Aid Bill.

    @Europa

     an_cheers   an_woo     jumpy

    So glad to see America has not turned its back on fighting international terrorism like a certain party was threatening to do.

    Reply

    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:

    "Thank you America"--Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelenskyy US Congress has just passed the $95 billion Foreign Aid Bill.

    @Europa

     an_cheers   an_woo     jumpy

    So glad to see America has not turned its back on fighting international terrorism like a certain party was threatening to do.

     
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    Posted: Apr. 20, 2024 - 4:47 PM ET #592

    President Biden leading international coalition against evil and cannibalism!

     

    Maybe they will open a investigation into Joe Biden's,  Uncle Bosie getting eaten by cannibals. That needs to be brought to light as its such a terrible way to go. Make sure nothing like that ever happens again to any family member like Joe claimed.

     

    Someone should bring this to the floor!

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    President Biden leading international coalition against evil and cannibalism!

     

    Maybe they will open a investigation into Joe Biden's,  Uncle Bosie getting eaten by cannibals. That needs to be brought to light as its such a terrible way to go. Make sure nothing like that ever happens again to any family member like Joe claimed.

     

    Someone should bring this to the floor!

     
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    Posted: Apr. 20, 2024 - 5:33 PM ET #593

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by Europa: "Thank you America"--Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelenskyy US Congress has just passed the $95 billion Foreign Aid Bill. @Europa        

      So glad to see America has not turned its back on fighting international terrorism like a certain party was threatening to do.

    thanks to president biden !! an_happydude

     

     

    "I'm the MOST HONEST human being that GOD EVER created!" - Donald "the felon" Trump
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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by Europa: "Thank you America"--Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelenskyy US Congress has just passed the $95 billion Foreign Aid Bill. @Europa        

      So glad to see America has not turned its back on fighting international terrorism like a certain party was threatening to do.

    thanks to president biden !! an_happydude

     

     

     
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    Posted: Apr. 20, 2024 - 7:51 PM ET #594

    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:

    @KellyM_1964 Good to chat with you again in here, I have been frequently lurking this forum. Just did not post as much as before, I'm cautiously optimistic on this November's election for the democracy in this country.  Also, glad to see good 'ol members around!

    @Europa

    You've been missed peace_5  Nice to see you back an_clap   

    Would be nice to have our longtime forum member  nature1970 back too!

     

    Cautiously optimistic is a great term!  So much can happen between now and November, including criminal trial verdicts an_beatup

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:

    @KellyM_1964 Good to chat with you again in here, I have been frequently lurking this forum. Just did not post as much as before, I'm cautiously optimistic on this November's election for the democracy in this country.  Also, glad to see good 'ol members around!

    @Europa

    You've been missed peace_5  Nice to see you back an_clap   

    Would be nice to have our longtime forum member  nature1970 back too!

     

    Cautiously optimistic is a great term!  So much can happen between now and November, including criminal trial verdicts an_beatup

     

     
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    Posted: Apr. 20, 2024 - 8:12 PM ET #595

    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:

    "Thank you America"

    --Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelenskyy

    US Congress has just passed the $95 billion Foreign Aid Bill.

    Pointed out elsewhere already that the bulk of the aid actually comes back to help USA business!

    Bonus! an_clap

    Opposing the fascist forces of evil and terror from spreading is a lesson we hopefully learned from 80 years ago

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:

    "Thank you America"

    --Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelenskyy

    US Congress has just passed the $95 billion Foreign Aid Bill.

    Pointed out elsewhere already that the bulk of the aid actually comes back to help USA business!

    Bonus! an_clap

    Opposing the fascist forces of evil and terror from spreading is a lesson we hopefully learned from 80 years ago

     

     

     
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    Clear victory for democrats with republicans losing what they wanted most.  When republicans rejected senate bipartisan bill earlier, they lost their best chance at determining border security.  Now GOP new border bill failed in 215 to 199 vote because two-third majority is required.  However all aid packages passed by bigger majorities.

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    Clear victory for democrats with republicans losing what they wanted most.  When republicans rejected senate bipartisan bill earlier, they lost their best chance at determining border security.  Now GOP new border bill failed in 215 to 199 vote because two-third majority is required.  However all aid packages passed by bigger majorities.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by witswits:

    President Biden leading international coalition against evil and cannibalism!   Maybe they will open a investigation into Joe Biden's,  Uncle Bosie getting eaten by cannibals. That needs to be brought to light as its such a terrible way to go. Make sure nothing like that ever happens again to any family member like Joe claimed.   Someone should bring this to the floor!

    talking about War ...

     

     

         Joe Tzu

      The Art of War 

        "Don't " 

     

    The Pastor of Disaster
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    Quote Originally Posted by witswits:

    President Biden leading international coalition against evil and cannibalism!   Maybe they will open a investigation into Joe Biden's,  Uncle Bosie getting eaten by cannibals. That needs to be brought to light as its such a terrible way to go. Make sure nothing like that ever happens again to any family member like Joe claimed.   Someone should bring this to the floor!

    talking about War ...

     

     

         Joe Tzu

      The Art of War 

        "Don't " 

     

     
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    Posted: Apr. 21, 2024 - 10:06 AM ET #598

    Quote Originally Posted by kcblitzkrieg:

    @thirdperson  Meanwhile republican Pence warns that Putin would target a NATO country next if he is successful in Ukraine.       Misinformation can be a dangerous thing....  The clowns of the world continue to spread fear and lies about Russia conquering Europe.  Russia's "Special Military Operation", has been going on for 3 plus years....2 years of actual conflict where pretty much nothing except men dying in old school trench warfare has occured.  This is a war of attrition by design.    Putin has made no effort to "destroy and conquer Ukraine" because that is not and was not ever his goal.  If Russia wanted to take ALL of Ukraine they easily could've done so but it would've resulted in way much collateral damage (Cities and civilians). 

    Russia wants to control other countries.   Russian disinformation to weaken Ukraine support has influenced congress republicans as revealed by House intelligence and foreign committees.  Since Russia failed to capture Ukraine capitol as planned, both countries have been forced into a war of attrition.  Russia has been targeting Ukraine cities and civilians.  Putin's doesn't want peace.  Instead he wants to destroy any perceived threat to his rule.  If Ukraine lose, the risk of more war is greater according to Institute for study of war.  Most European countries have joined NATO because of the threat of Russia.  Neighbors know Russia better than other countries.  In contrast, NATO is a defensive alliance and poses no threat to Europe.  However Russia has invaded Ukraine, Georgia and other countries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kcblitzkrieg:

    @thirdperson  Meanwhile republican Pence warns that Putin would target a NATO country next if he is successful in Ukraine.       Misinformation can be a dangerous thing....  The clowns of the world continue to spread fear and lies about Russia conquering Europe.  Russia's "Special Military Operation", has been going on for 3 plus years....2 years of actual conflict where pretty much nothing except men dying in old school trench warfare has occured.  This is a war of attrition by design.    Putin has made no effort to "destroy and conquer Ukraine" because that is not and was not ever his goal.  If Russia wanted to take ALL of Ukraine they easily could've done so but it would've resulted in way much collateral damage (Cities and civilians). 

    Russia wants to control other countries.   Russian disinformation to weaken Ukraine support has influenced congress republicans as revealed by House intelligence and foreign committees.  Since Russia failed to capture Ukraine capitol as planned, both countries have been forced into a war of attrition.  Russia has been targeting Ukraine cities and civilians.  Putin's doesn't want peace.  Instead he wants to destroy any perceived threat to his rule.  If Ukraine lose, the risk of more war is greater according to Institute for study of war.  Most European countries have joined NATO because of the threat of Russia.  Neighbors know Russia better than other countries.  In contrast, NATO is a defensive alliance and poses no threat to Europe.  However Russia has invaded Ukraine, Georgia and other countries.

     
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    @witswits

     On the contrary,  Most Republican politicians vote strategically. They have “good governance” to consider and they have their next election to consider. It’s obvious the ones who have been successful before the 2016 election would be extremely happy if Trump plane landed nose first into sewerage facility and no longer be held politically captive by a buffoon and not have to explain his ever day live TV humiliation.

    So till they a free they know that when the legislation will pass, regardless of which direction you vote, but your district is more extremely MAGA, then maybe you rather your next primary.

    If you compare Republican senators who are running for reelection this year, to ones who aren’t, and the vote spread between those two groups for foreign aid - that will probably give you a better sense for how much re-election is playing into their choice.

     

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    @witswits

     On the contrary,  Most Republican politicians vote strategically. They have “good governance” to consider and they have their next election to consider. It’s obvious the ones who have been successful before the 2016 election would be extremely happy if Trump plane landed nose first into sewerage facility and no longer be held politically captive by a buffoon and not have to explain his ever day live TV humiliation.

    So till they a free they know that when the legislation will pass, regardless of which direction you vote, but your district is more extremely MAGA, then maybe you rather your next primary.

    If you compare Republican senators who are running for reelection this year, to ones who aren’t, and the vote spread between those two groups for foreign aid - that will probably give you a better sense for how much re-election is playing into their choice.

     

     
     
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    The hill reveals republican Graham warning that Putin won't stop if successful in Ukraine.  He rejects the idea that giving up on Ukraine would make the world safer.

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    The hill reveals republican Graham warning that Putin won't stop if successful in Ukraine.  He rejects the idea that giving up on Ukraine would make the world safer.

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