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    KellyM_1964
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    Posted: Dec. 13, 2024 - 8:18 PM ET #26

    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: "If any of these people are innocent then why would they need to worry about being pardoned?" ------------------------------------   Looking back in history why would the Jewishpopulations back in the mid-1930s to mid-1940s in Germany and much of Europe have to worry about protection when they were innocent? True.   Large group of people not guilty of crimes, very clearly had reason to fear an authoritarian leader who had named them as targets.

     

     

    exactly

     

     

    "I'm the MOST HONEST human being that GOD EVER created!" - Donald "the felon" Trump
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: "If any of these people are innocent then why would they need to worry about being pardoned?" ------------------------------------   Looking back in history why would the Jewishpopulations back in the mid-1930s to mid-1940s in Germany and much of Europe have to worry about protection when they were innocent? True.   Large group of people not guilty of crimes, very clearly had reason to fear an authoritarian leader who had named them as targets.

     

     

    exactly

     

     

     
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    Posted: Dec. 14, 2024 - 2:05 AM ET #27

    Quote Originally Posted by THEMUGG:

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: We had a just a bit of thought being shared before it turned into personal mudslinging. @THEMUGG  The Left in here believes the guilty should be prosecuted. It's been well stated in many many threads in this forum. We got that straight now?I believe that you believe that........but if you do, then why are you against any of them being investigated? Surely there's nothing for them to fear if they're clean, right? Or are you afraid they'll all get treated like Trump did by the dems? As far as the Bobbsey twins go, they think there are gas chambers waiting for the whole dem party, lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by THEMUGG:

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: We had a just a bit of thought being shared before it turned into personal mudslinging. @THEMUGG  The Left in here believes the guilty should be prosecuted. It's been well stated in many many threads in this forum. We got that straight now?I believe that you believe that........but if you do, then why are you against any of them being investigated? Surely there's nothing for them to fear if they're clean, right? Or are you afraid they'll all get treated like Trump did by the dems? As far as the Bobbsey twins go, they think there are gas chambers waiting for the whole dem party, lol.
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    Posted: Dec. 14, 2024 - 2:32 AM ET #28

    Quote Originally Posted by kcblitzkrieg:

    The FBI had 26 confidential human sources at the Capitol on January 6, including four who entered the Capitol building and 13 who entered the "restricted area" around the Capitol, according to a just released DOJ Inspector General reporter.

    Inspector general report debunks conspiracy theory of FBI orchestrating capitol attack.  FBI informants gather intelligence.  They aren't authorized to break the law or to encourage others to attack capitol.  None of the FBI informants have been charged with crimes. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by kcblitzkrieg:

    The FBI had 26 confidential human sources at the Capitol on January 6, including four who entered the Capitol building and 13 who entered the "restricted area" around the Capitol, according to a just released DOJ Inspector General reporter.

    Inspector general report debunks conspiracy theory of FBI orchestrating capitol attack.  FBI informants gather intelligence.  They aren't authorized to break the law or to encourage others to attack capitol.  None of the FBI informants have been charged with crimes. 

     
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    Posted: Dec. 14, 2024 - 2:44 AM ET #29

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    Never has a president needed to protect people from the planned victimization by an incoming president.

    Inspector general report reveals Trump administration weaponization of government against political enemies such as journalists and members of congress.  Record 334 leak investigations referred as criminal investigations.  A second term could be worse.  In contrast, House GOP investigations failed to prove weaponization of government against republicans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    Never has a president needed to protect people from the planned victimization by an incoming president.

    Inspector general report reveals Trump administration weaponization of government against political enemies such as journalists and members of congress.  Record 334 leak investigations referred as criminal investigations.  A second term could be worse.  In contrast, House GOP investigations failed to prove weaponization of government against republicans.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 14, 2024 - 2:44 AM ET #30

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by kcblitzkrieg: The FBI had 26 confidential human sources at the Capitol on January 6, including four who entered the Capitol building and 13 who entered the "restricted area" around the Capitol, according to a just released DOJ Inspector General reporter. Inspector general report debunks conspiracy theory of FBI orchestrating capitol attack.  FBI informants gather intelligence.  They aren't authorized to break the law or to encourage others to attack capitol.  None of the FBI informants have been charged with crimes.
    Yet.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by kcblitzkrieg: The FBI had 26 confidential human sources at the Capitol on January 6, including four who entered the Capitol building and 13 who entered the "restricted area" around the Capitol, according to a just released DOJ Inspector General reporter. Inspector general report debunks conspiracy theory of FBI orchestrating capitol attack.  FBI informants gather intelligence.  They aren't authorized to break the law or to encourage others to attack capitol.  None of the FBI informants have been charged with crimes.
    Yet.......

     
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    Posted: Dec. 14, 2024 - 3:11 AM ET #31

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by kcblitzkrieg: The FBI had 26 confidential human sources at the Capitol on January 6, including four who entered the Capitol building and 13 who entered the "restricted area" around the Capitol, according to a just released DOJ Inspector General reporter. Inspector general report debunks conspiracy theory of FBI orchestrating capitol attack.  FBI informants gather intelligence.  They aren't authorized to break the law or to encourage others to attack capitol. 

    Correct!  That is what the official report states. 

    Not authorized for any action other than gathering intel!!! 

     

    Now if any went rogue AGAINST the expressed consent of the FBI - violating FBI orders - then that would be ON THOSE BAD ACTORS, not the FBI.  Although even in the case of a bad actor their actions DO NOT absolve the crazed MAGA cult from THEIR actions in any way whatsoever!

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by kcblitzkrieg: The FBI had 26 confidential human sources at the Capitol on January 6, including four who entered the Capitol building and 13 who entered the "restricted area" around the Capitol, according to a just released DOJ Inspector General reporter. Inspector general report debunks conspiracy theory of FBI orchestrating capitol attack.  FBI informants gather intelligence.  They aren't authorized to break the law or to encourage others to attack capitol. 

    Correct!  That is what the official report states. 

    Not authorized for any action other than gathering intel!!! 

     

    Now if any went rogue AGAINST the expressed consent of the FBI - violating FBI orders - then that would be ON THOSE BAD ACTORS, not the FBI.  Although even in the case of a bad actor their actions DO NOT absolve the crazed MAGA cult from THEIR actions in any way whatsoever!

     
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    Posted: Dec. 14, 2024 - 7:07 AM ET #32

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    We had a just a bit of thought being shared before it turned into personal mudslinging. @THEMUGG  The Left in here believes the guilty should be prosecuted. It's been well stated in many many threads in this forum. We got that straight now?

    it’s a bullshit move and disrespectful to throw around the words Nazi and fuhrer around here so carelessly when the evil that occurred towards the Jewish people is in no way comparable to what is happening today .

    do you or do you not agree ?

    God damn you motherfuckers are blind on that one .

    and if we’re not straight on that one then you dudes pissing around all that jargon so ignorantly are as crooked as they come .

    ya dig ?

    wallstreetcappers craps in his draws and pees fuckin backwards from his vaj with a squirt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    We had a just a bit of thought being shared before it turned into personal mudslinging. @THEMUGG  The Left in here believes the guilty should be prosecuted. It's been well stated in many many threads in this forum. We got that straight now?

    it’s a bullshit move and disrespectful to throw around the words Nazi and fuhrer around here so carelessly when the evil that occurred towards the Jewish people is in no way comparable to what is happening today .

    do you or do you not agree ?

    God damn you motherfuckers are blind on that one .

    and if we’re not straight on that one then you dudes pissing around all that jargon so ignorantly are as crooked as they come .

    ya dig ?

     
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    Posted: Dec. 14, 2024 - 7:53 AM ET #33

    Trump over 200 pardons are more controversial than Biden over 8000 pardons.  Biden mostly follow recommendations from justice department review.  Many more convicts deserve pardons.  Unlike other presidents, Trump mostly rely on personal or political connections .  For examples,  supporters such as father of his son-in-law Kushner.  Rich individuals paid Trump advisors to lobby for pardons.  No other president abuses pardon power as much as Trump.  Survey of historians rank Trump as the worst president in moral authority and pursuit of equal justice for all.

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    Trump over 200 pardons are more controversial than Biden over 8000 pardons.  Biden mostly follow recommendations from justice department review.  Many more convicts deserve pardons.  Unlike other presidents, Trump mostly rely on personal or political connections .  For examples,  supporters such as father of his son-in-law Kushner.  Rich individuals paid Trump advisors to lobby for pardons.  No other president abuses pardon power as much as Trump.  Survey of historians rank Trump as the worst president in moral authority and pursuit of equal justice for all.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 14, 2024 - 8:36 AM ET #34

    [Quote: Originally Posted by spockgato]Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: We had a just a bit of thought being shared before it turned into personal mudslinging. @THEMUGG  The Left in here believes the guilty should be prosecuted. It's been well stated in many many threads in this forum. We got that straight now? it’s a bullshit move and disrespectful to throw around the words Nazi and fuhrer around here so carelessly when the evil that occurred towards the Jewish people is in no way comparable to what is happening today . do you or do you not agree ? God damn you motherfuckers are blind on that one . and if we’re not straight on that one then you dudes pissing around all that jargon so ignorantly are as crooked as they come . ya dig ?[/Quote]

     

     

    100% !! peace_5

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    [Quote: Originally Posted by spockgato]Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: We had a just a bit of thought being shared before it turned into personal mudslinging. @THEMUGG  The Left in here believes the guilty should be prosecuted. It's been well stated in many many threads in this forum. We got that straight now? it’s a bullshit move and disrespectful to throw around the words Nazi and fuhrer around here so carelessly when the evil that occurred towards the Jewish people is in no way comparable to what is happening today . do you or do you not agree ? God damn you motherfuckers are blind on that one . and if we’re not straight on that one then you dudes pissing around all that jargon so ignorantly are as crooked as they come . ya dig ?[/Quote]

     

     

    100% !! peace_5

     
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    Posted: Dec. 14, 2024 - 12:28 PM ET #35

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Trump over 200 pardons are more controversial than Biden over 8000 pardons.  Biden mostly follow recommendations from justice department review.  Many more convicts deserve pardons. 

     

     

    That's what the pardon is for! an_clap

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Trump over 200 pardons are more controversial than Biden over 8000 pardons.  Biden mostly follow recommendations from justice department review.  Many more convicts deserve pardons. 

     

     

    That's what the pardon is for! an_clap

     

     

     
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    Posted: Dec. 14, 2024 - 12:32 PM ET #36

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Trump over 200 pardons are more controversial

     

    Unlike other presidents, Trump mostly rely on personal or political connections . 

    For examples,  supporters such as father of his son-in-law Kushner. 

    Add Flynn, Stone.....corrupt Sherriff Joe Arpaio

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Trump over 200 pardons are more controversial

     

    Unlike other presidents, Trump mostly rely on personal or political connections . 

    For examples,  supporters such as father of his son-in-law Kushner. 

    Add Flynn, Stone.....corrupt Sherriff Joe Arpaio

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Trump over 200 pardons are more controversial  

    Unlike other presidents, Trump mostly rely on personal or political connections . 

    For examples,  supporters such as father of his son-in-law Kushner. 

     

    Add Flynn, Stone.....corrupt Sherriff Joe Arpaio

    Those were all republicans by the way.......of course.

    As well as republican Scooter Libby: Obstruction of justice; false statements; perjury (two counts)

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Trump over 200 pardons are more controversial  

    Unlike other presidents, Trump mostly rely on personal or political connections . 

    For examples,  supporters such as father of his son-in-law Kushner. 

     

    Add Flynn, Stone.....corrupt Sherriff Joe Arpaio

    Those were all republicans by the way.......of course.

    As well as republican Scooter Libby: Obstruction of justice; false statements; perjury (two counts)

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by THEMUGG:

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: We had a just a bit of thought being shared before it turned into personal mudslinging. @THEMUGG  The Left in here believes the guilty should be prosecuted. It's been well stated in many many threads in this forum. We got that straight now?I believe that you believe that........but if you do, then why are you against any of them being investigated? Surely there's nothing for them to fear if they're clean, right? Or are you afraid they'll all get treated like Trump did by the dems? As far as the Bobbsey twins go, they think there are gas chambers waiting for the whole dem party, lol.

    If there is evidence of a crime being committed, I'm fine with anybody being investigated. If Christopher Wray committed perjury, let him get in line with all the others that have done so or have plead the 5th to avoid prosecution.

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by THEMUGG:

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: We had a just a bit of thought being shared before it turned into personal mudslinging. @THEMUGG  The Left in here believes the guilty should be prosecuted. It's been well stated in many many threads in this forum. We got that straight now?I believe that you believe that........but if you do, then why are you against any of them being investigated? Surely there's nothing for them to fear if they're clean, right? Or are you afraid they'll all get treated like Trump did by the dems? As far as the Bobbsey twins go, they think there are gas chambers waiting for the whole dem party, lol.

    If there is evidence of a crime being committed, I'm fine with anybody being investigated. If Christopher Wray committed perjury, let him get in line with all the others that have done so or have plead the 5th to avoid prosecution.

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    If there is evidence of a crime being committed, I'm fine with anybody being investigated. If Christopher Wray committed perjury, let him get in line with all the others that have done so or have plead the 5th to avoid prosecution.

    I seconded on that note. 

    In the case of "mandate" retributions or public retaliate threats from the incoming Trump administration and his cabinet appointees, that might not end up well. In that, majority of Trump voters may not vote for him in the November 5. for the agenda of retaliating threats or retributions against his political enemies. Secondary, Democrats will regain powers in the future and these GOP retributions and retaliations will come back to bite them hard, I guess.     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    If there is evidence of a crime being committed, I'm fine with anybody being investigated. If Christopher Wray committed perjury, let him get in line with all the others that have done so or have plead the 5th to avoid prosecution.

    I seconded on that note. 

    In the case of "mandate" retributions or public retaliate threats from the incoming Trump administration and his cabinet appointees, that might not end up well. In that, majority of Trump voters may not vote for him in the November 5. for the agenda of retaliating threats or retributions against his political enemies. Secondary, Democrats will regain powers in the future and these GOP retributions and retaliations will come back to bite them hard, I guess.     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Trump over 200 pardons are more controversial   Unlike other presidents, Trump mostly rely on personal or political connections .  For examples,  supporters such as father of his son-in-law Kushner.   

     

    Add Flynn, Stone.....corrupt Sherriff Joe Arpaio Those were all republicans by the way.......of course.

     

    As well as republican Scooter Libby: Obstruction of justice; false statements; perjury (two counts)

    Republican Dinesh D'Souza for campaign contribution FRAUD.  This the same fraud who used conspiracy theories to make multiple controversial films which are anti-Democrat/pro trump

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Trump over 200 pardons are more controversial   Unlike other presidents, Trump mostly rely on personal or political connections .  For examples,  supporters such as father of his son-in-law Kushner.   

     

    Add Flynn, Stone.....corrupt Sherriff Joe Arpaio Those were all republicans by the way.......of course.

     

    As well as republican Scooter Libby: Obstruction of justice; false statements; perjury (two counts)

    Republican Dinesh D'Souza for campaign contribution FRAUD.  This the same fraud who used conspiracy theories to make multiple controversial films which are anti-Democrat/pro trump

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Trump over 200 pardons are more controversial   Unlike other presidents, Trump mostly rely on personal or political connections .  For examples,  supporters such as father of his son-in-law Kushner.     

    Add Flynn, Stone.....corrupt Sherriff Joe Arpaio Those were all republicans by the way.......of course.  

     

    As well as republican Scooter Libby: Obstruction of justice; false statements; perjury (two counts)

     

    Republican Dinesh D'Souza for campaign contribution FRAUD.  This the same fraud who used conspiracy theories to make multiple controversial films which are anti-Democrat/pro trump

    Conservative Conrad Black: Mail fraud; attempted obstruction of justice

     

    Republican Patrick James Nolan: Conducting the affairs of an enterprise through a pattern of racketeering

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Trump over 200 pardons are more controversial   Unlike other presidents, Trump mostly rely on personal or political connections .  For examples,  supporters such as father of his son-in-law Kushner.     

    Add Flynn, Stone.....corrupt Sherriff Joe Arpaio Those were all republicans by the way.......of course.  

     

    As well as republican Scooter Libby: Obstruction of justice; false statements; perjury (two counts)

     

    Republican Dinesh D'Souza for campaign contribution FRAUD.  This the same fraud who used conspiracy theories to make multiple controversial films which are anti-Democrat/pro trump

    Conservative Conrad Black: Mail fraud; attempted obstruction of justice

     

    Republican Patrick James Nolan: Conducting the affairs of an enterprise through a pattern of racketeering

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Trump over 200 pardons are more controversial   Unlike other presidents, Trump mostly rely on personal or political connections .  For examples,  supporters such as father of his son-in-law Kushner.      Add Flynn, Stone.....corrupt Sherriff Joe Arpaio Those were all republicans by the way.......of course.     As well as republican Scooter Libby: Obstruction of justice; false statements; perjury (two counts)   Republican Dinesh D'Souza for campaign contribution FRAUD.  This the same fraud who used conspiracy theories to make multiple controversial films which are anti-Democrat/pro trump Conservative Conrad Black: Mail fraud; attempted obstruction of justice   Republican Patrick James Nolan: Conducting the affairs of an enterprise through a pattern of racketeering

    Mathew Golsteyn: Premeditated murder (pardoned; charges dropped)

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Trump over 200 pardons are more controversial   Unlike other presidents, Trump mostly rely on personal or political connections .  For examples,  supporters such as father of his son-in-law Kushner.      Add Flynn, Stone.....corrupt Sherriff Joe Arpaio Those were all republicans by the way.......of course.     As well as republican Scooter Libby: Obstruction of justice; false statements; perjury (two counts)   Republican Dinesh D'Souza for campaign contribution FRAUD.  This the same fraud who used conspiracy theories to make multiple controversial films which are anti-Democrat/pro trump Conservative Conrad Black: Mail fraud; attempted obstruction of justice   Republican Patrick James Nolan: Conducting the affairs of an enterprise through a pattern of racketeering

    Mathew Golsteyn: Premeditated murder (pardoned; charges dropped)

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Trump over 200 pardons are more controversial   Unlike other presidents, Trump mostly rely on personal or political connections .  For examples,  supporters such as father of his son-in-law Kushner.      Add Flynn, Stone.....corrupt Sherriff Joe Arpaio Those were all republicans by the way.......of course.     As well as republican Scooter Libby: Obstruction of justice; false statements; perjury (two counts)   Republican Dinesh D'Souza for campaign contribution FRAUD.  This the same fraud who used conspiracy theories to make multiple controversial films which are anti-Democrat/pro trump Conservative Conrad Black: Mail fraud; attempted obstruction of justice   Republican Patrick James Nolan: Conducting the affairs of an enterprise through a pattern of racketeering Mathew Golsteyn: Premeditated murder (pardoned; charges dropped)

    Clint A. Lorance:
    Attempted murder; murder (two specifications); wrongfully communicating a threat (two specifications); reckless endangerment; solicitating a false statement; obstructing justice

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Trump over 200 pardons are more controversial   Unlike other presidents, Trump mostly rely on personal or political connections .  For examples,  supporters such as father of his son-in-law Kushner.      Add Flynn, Stone.....corrupt Sherriff Joe Arpaio Those were all republicans by the way.......of course.     As well as republican Scooter Libby: Obstruction of justice; false statements; perjury (two counts)   Republican Dinesh D'Souza for campaign contribution FRAUD.  This the same fraud who used conspiracy theories to make multiple controversial films which are anti-Democrat/pro trump Conservative Conrad Black: Mail fraud; attempted obstruction of justice   Republican Patrick James Nolan: Conducting the affairs of an enterprise through a pattern of racketeering Mathew Golsteyn: Premeditated murder (pardoned; charges dropped)

    Clint A. Lorance:
    Attempted murder; murder (two specifications); wrongfully communicating a threat (two specifications); reckless endangerment; solicitating a false statement; obstructing justice

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Trump over 200 pardons are more controversial   Unlike other presidents, Trump mostly rely on personal or political connections .  For examples,  supporters such as father of his son-in-law Kushner.      Add Flynn, Stone.....corrupt Sherriff Joe Arpaio Those were all republicans by the way.......of course.     As well as republican Scooter Libby: Obstruction of justice; false statements; perjury (two counts)   Republican Dinesh D'Souza for campaign contribution FRAUD.  This the same fraud who used conspiracy theories to make multiple controversial films which are anti-Democrat/pro trump Conservative Conrad Black: Mail fraud; attempted obstruction of justice   Republican Patrick James Nolan: Conducting the affairs of an enterprise through a pattern of racketeering Mathew Golsteyn: Premeditated murder (pardoned; charges dropped)

    Clint A. Lorance:Attempted murder; murder (two specifications); wrongfully communicating a threat (two specifications); reckless endangerment; solicitating a false statement; obstructing justice

    CONSERVATIVE Zay Jeffries: Conspiracy to violate the Sherman Act

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Trump over 200 pardons are more controversial   Unlike other presidents, Trump mostly rely on personal or political connections .  For examples,  supporters such as father of his son-in-law Kushner.      Add Flynn, Stone.....corrupt Sherriff Joe Arpaio Those were all republicans by the way.......of course.     As well as republican Scooter Libby: Obstruction of justice; false statements; perjury (two counts)   Republican Dinesh D'Souza for campaign contribution FRAUD.  This the same fraud who used conspiracy theories to make multiple controversial films which are anti-Democrat/pro trump Conservative Conrad Black: Mail fraud; attempted obstruction of justice   Republican Patrick James Nolan: Conducting the affairs of an enterprise through a pattern of racketeering Mathew Golsteyn: Premeditated murder (pardoned; charges dropped)

    Clint A. Lorance:Attempted murder; murder (two specifications); wrongfully communicating a threat (two specifications); reckless endangerment; solicitating a false statement; obstructing justice

    CONSERVATIVE Zay Jeffries: Conspiracy to violate the Sherman Act

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Trump over 200 pardons are more controversial   Unlike other presidents, Trump mostly rely on personal or political connections .  For examples,  supporters such as father of his son-in-law Kushner.      Add Flynn, Stone.....corrupt Sherriff Joe Arpaio Those were all republicans by the way.......of course.     As well as republican Scooter Libby: Obstruction of justice; false statements; perjury (two counts)  

    Republican Dinesh D'Souza for campaign contribution FRAUD.  This the same fraud who used conspiracy theories to make multiple controversial films which are anti-Democrat/pro trump

    Conservative Conrad Black: Mail fraud; attempted obstruction of justice  

    Republican Patrick James Nolan: Conducting the affairs of an enterprise through a pattern of racketeering Mathew Golsteyn: Premeditated murder (pardoned; charges dropped)

    Clint A. Lorance:Attempted murder; murder (two specifications); wrongfully communicating a threat (two specifications); reckless endangerment; solicitating a false statement; obstructing justice

    CONSERVATIVE Zay Jeffries: Conspiracy to violate the Sherman Act


    Republican Chalmer Lee Williams:
    Conspiracy to steal firearms and other goods as part of an interstate shipment; theft from shipment in interstate commerce; theft of firearms shipped in interstate commerce

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Trump over 200 pardons are more controversial   Unlike other presidents, Trump mostly rely on personal or political connections .  For examples,  supporters such as father of his son-in-law Kushner.      Add Flynn, Stone.....corrupt Sherriff Joe Arpaio Those were all republicans by the way.......of course.     As well as republican Scooter Libby: Obstruction of justice; false statements; perjury (two counts)  

    Republican Dinesh D'Souza for campaign contribution FRAUD.  This the same fraud who used conspiracy theories to make multiple controversial films which are anti-Democrat/pro trump

    Conservative Conrad Black: Mail fraud; attempted obstruction of justice  

    Republican Patrick James Nolan: Conducting the affairs of an enterprise through a pattern of racketeering Mathew Golsteyn: Premeditated murder (pardoned; charges dropped)

    Clint A. Lorance:Attempted murder; murder (two specifications); wrongfully communicating a threat (two specifications); reckless endangerment; solicitating a false statement; obstructing justice

    CONSERVATIVE Zay Jeffries: Conspiracy to violate the Sherman Act


    Republican Chalmer Lee Williams:
    Conspiracy to steal firearms and other goods as part of an interstate shipment; theft from shipment in interstate commerce; theft of firearms shipped in interstate commerce

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Trump over 200 pardons are more controversial   Unlike other presidents, Trump mostly rely on personal or political connections .  For examples,  supporters such as father of his son-in-law Kushner.      Add Flynn, Stone.....corrupt Sherriff Joe Arpaio Those were all republicans by the way.......of course.     As well as republican Scooter Libby: Obstruction of justice; false statements; perjury (two counts)   Republican Dinesh D'Souza for campaign contribution FRAUD.  This the same fraud who used conspiracy theories to make multiple controversial films which are anti-Democrat/pro trump Conservative Conrad Black: Mail fraud; attempted obstruction of justice   Republican Patrick James Nolan: Conducting the affairs of an enterprise through a pattern of racketeering Mathew Golsteyn: Premeditated murder (pardoned; charges dropped) Clint A. Lorance:Attempted murder; murder (two specifications); wrongfully communicating a threat (two specifications); reckless endangerment; solicitating a false statement; obstructing justice CONSERVATIVE Zay Jeffries: Conspiracy to violate the Sherman Act Republican Chalmer Lee Williams:Conspiracy to steal firearms and other goods as part of an interstate shipment; theft from shipment in interstate commerce; theft of firearms shipped in interstate commerce

    Republican John Richard Bubala: Conversion of government property

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Trump over 200 pardons are more controversial   Unlike other presidents, Trump mostly rely on personal or political connections .  For examples,  supporters such as father of his son-in-law Kushner.      Add Flynn, Stone.....corrupt Sherriff Joe Arpaio Those were all republicans by the way.......of course.     As well as republican Scooter Libby: Obstruction of justice; false statements; perjury (two counts)   Republican Dinesh D'Souza for campaign contribution FRAUD.  This the same fraud who used conspiracy theories to make multiple controversial films which are anti-Democrat/pro trump Conservative Conrad Black: Mail fraud; attempted obstruction of justice   Republican Patrick James Nolan: Conducting the affairs of an enterprise through a pattern of racketeering Mathew Golsteyn: Premeditated murder (pardoned; charges dropped) Clint A. Lorance:Attempted murder; murder (two specifications); wrongfully communicating a threat (two specifications); reckless endangerment; solicitating a false statement; obstructing justice CONSERVATIVE Zay Jeffries: Conspiracy to violate the Sherman Act Republican Chalmer Lee Williams:Conspiracy to steal firearms and other goods as part of an interstate shipment; theft from shipment in interstate commerce; theft of firearms shipped in interstate commerce

    Republican John Richard Bubala: Conversion of government property

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Trump over 200 pardons are more controversial   Unlike other presidents, Trump mostly rely on personal or political connections .  For examples,  supporters such as father of his son-in-law Kushner.      Add Flynn, Stone.....corrupt Sherriff Joe Arpaio Those were all republicans by the way.......of course.     As well as republican Scooter Libby: Obstruction of justice; false statements; perjury (two counts)   Republican Dinesh D'Souza for campaign contribution FRAUD.  This the same fraud who used conspiracy theories to make multiple controversial films which are anti-Democrat/pro trump Conservative Conrad Black: Mail fraud; attempted obstruction of justice   Republican Patrick James Nolan: Conducting the affairs of an enterprise through a pattern of racketeering Mathew Golsteyn: Premeditated murder (pardoned; charges dropped) Clint A. Lorance:Attempted murder; murder (two specifications); wrongfully communicating a threat (two specifications); reckless endangerment; solicitating a false statement; obstructing justice CONSERVATIVE Zay Jeffries: Conspiracy to violate the Sherman Act Republican Chalmer Lee Williams:Conspiracy to steal firearms and other goods as part of an interstate shipment; theft from shipment in interstate commerce; theft of firearms shipped in interstate commerce Republican John Richard Bubala: Conversion of government property

    Another criminal REPUBLICAN trump pardoned:

    Republican Bernard Bailey Kerik: Obstructing the administration of the Internal Revenue Laws; aiding in the preparation of a false income tax return; making false statements on a loan application; making false statements (five counts)

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Trump over 200 pardons are more controversial   Unlike other presidents, Trump mostly rely on personal or political connections .  For examples,  supporters such as father of his son-in-law Kushner.      Add Flynn, Stone.....corrupt Sherriff Joe Arpaio Those were all republicans by the way.......of course.     As well as republican Scooter Libby: Obstruction of justice; false statements; perjury (two counts)   Republican Dinesh D'Souza for campaign contribution FRAUD.  This the same fraud who used conspiracy theories to make multiple controversial films which are anti-Democrat/pro trump Conservative Conrad Black: Mail fraud; attempted obstruction of justice   Republican Patrick James Nolan: Conducting the affairs of an enterprise through a pattern of racketeering Mathew Golsteyn: Premeditated murder (pardoned; charges dropped) Clint A. Lorance:Attempted murder; murder (two specifications); wrongfully communicating a threat (two specifications); reckless endangerment; solicitating a false statement; obstructing justice CONSERVATIVE Zay Jeffries: Conspiracy to violate the Sherman Act Republican Chalmer Lee Williams:Conspiracy to steal firearms and other goods as part of an interstate shipment; theft from shipment in interstate commerce; theft of firearms shipped in interstate commerce Republican John Richard Bubala: Conversion of government property

    Another criminal REPUBLICAN trump pardoned:

    Republican Bernard Bailey Kerik: Obstructing the administration of the Internal Revenue Laws; aiding in the preparation of a false income tax return; making false statements on a loan application; making false statements (five counts)

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Another criminal REPUBLICAN trump pardoned:

    Republican Bernard Bailey Kerik: Obstructing the administration of the Internal Revenue Laws; aiding in the preparation of a false income tax return; making false statements on a loan application; making false statements (five counts)

    trump pardoned Michael Robert Milken:
    Conspiracy; securities fraud; mail fraud; tax fraud; filing false reports with the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC); assisting a brokerage firm in violating its net capital requirements

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Another criminal REPUBLICAN trump pardoned:

    Republican Bernard Bailey Kerik: Obstructing the administration of the Internal Revenue Laws; aiding in the preparation of a false income tax return; making false statements on a loan application; making false statements (five counts)

    trump pardoned Michael Robert Milken:
    Conspiracy; securities fraud; mail fraud; tax fraud; filing false reports with the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC); assisting a brokerage firm in violating its net capital requirements

     
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    Trump pardons Edward DeBartolo Jr., ex-49ers owner in serious gambling FRAUD scandal

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    Trump pardons Edward DeBartolo Jr., ex-49ers owner in serious gambling FRAUD scandal

     
     
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    trump pardonned this conservative criminal, Chalmer Lee Williams:


    Conspiracy to steal firearms and other goods as part of an interstate shipment; theft from shipment in interstate commerce; theft of firearms shipped in interstate commerce

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    trump pardonned this conservative criminal, Chalmer Lee Williams:


    Conspiracy to steal firearms and other goods as part of an interstate shipment; theft from shipment in interstate commerce; theft of firearms shipped in interstate commerce

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