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    nature1970
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    Posted: Oct. 7, 2018 - 10:43 PM ET #1

    Yes Susan of the Benghazi mess is looking at exploring running against Collins. Oh this should be good.

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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.

    Yes Susan of the Benghazi mess is looking at exploring running against Collins. Oh this should be good.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 8, 2018 - 4:27 PM ET #2

    She isn’t even from Maine... guaranteed put this Obama lackey. In and Collins wins by a landslide...

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    She isn’t even from Maine... guaranteed put this Obama lackey. In and Collins wins by a landslide...

     
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    Posted: Oct. 8, 2018 - 4:57 PM ET #3

    Quote Originally Posted by Doubleadownon12:

    She isn’t even from Maine... guaranteed put this Obama lackey. In and Collins wins by a landslide...


    Trump isn't from russia but he represents them .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doubleadownon12:

    She isn’t even from Maine... guaranteed put this Obama lackey. In and Collins wins by a landslide...


    Trump isn't from russia but he represents them .
     
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    Posted: Oct. 11, 2018 - 9:55 AM ET #4

    Quote Originally Posted by Doubleadownon12:

    She isn’t even from Maine... guaranteed put this Obama lackey. In and Collins wins by a landslide...
    Herr grandparents immigrants from Jamaica settled in Portland Maine, she has a house near Martha Stewart’s in Ellsworth and pays property taxes in Maine. Problem is her credibility issues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doubleadownon12:

    She isn’t even from Maine... guaranteed put this Obama lackey. In and Collins wins by a landslide...
    Herr grandparents immigrants from Jamaica settled in Portland Maine, she has a house near Martha Stewart’s in Ellsworth and pays property taxes in Maine. Problem is her credibility issues.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 13, 2018 - 1:22 PM ET #5

    Quote Originally Posted by darkhorse12:

    Quote Originally Posted by Doubleadownon12:

    She isn’t even from Maine... guaranteed put this Obama lackey. In and Collins wins by a landslide...
    Trump isn't from russia but he represents them .

     

    DELUSIONAL PERSON....Please explain this nonsense with facts and logic....YOU can't because you are brainwashed with mush.

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    Quote Originally Posted by darkhorse12:

    Quote Originally Posted by Doubleadownon12:

    She isn’t even from Maine... guaranteed put this Obama lackey. In and Collins wins by a landslide...
    Trump isn't from russia but he represents them .

     

    DELUSIONAL PERSON....Please explain this nonsense with facts and logic....YOU can't because you are brainwashed with mush.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 13, 2018 - 6:36 PM ET #6

    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyDrizzl:

    Trump isn't from russia but he represents them .

     

    DELUSIONAL PERSON....Please explain this nonsense with facts and logic....YOU can't because you are brainwashed with mush.


    Crimea,   G-7,     Interference in our election,  just to name 3. do some research, drizzle person. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyDrizzl:

    Trump isn't from russia but he represents them .

     

    DELUSIONAL PERSON....Please explain this nonsense with facts and logic....YOU can't because you are brainwashed with mush.


    Crimea,   G-7,     Interference in our election,  just to name 3. do some research, drizzle person. 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 13, 2018 - 7:08 PM ET #7

    Quote Originally Posted by darkhorse12:

    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyDrizzl:

    Trump isn't from russia but he represents them .   DELUSIONAL PERSON....Please explain this nonsense with facts and logic....YOU can't because you are brainwashed with mush.
    Crimea,   G-7,     Interference in our election,  just to name 3. do some research, drizzle person.

     

    Hard to believe so many care about Russia as a negative charge on Trumps job approval....Who cares about Russia and what they do. Russia has been doing bad things for , well ,, just forever....nothing we can do about it unless to start war( nobody wants that)....We just want to make the good ole USA better than it is now as the main goal....Get it??

    Immigration: dims want wide open borders....let everyone in from anywhere in the world....C'mon in, we will give you lots of free stuff, really!.....Trump and his supporters want to secure the border and also deport millions of illegals that have been here for many years and are still collecting welfare that you American idiots are paying for....Bring in millions and millions more third world refugees to our homeland.....No way can you make America great again by doing that kind of a stupid stunt...

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by darkhorse12:

    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyDrizzl:

    Trump isn't from russia but he represents them .   DELUSIONAL PERSON....Please explain this nonsense with facts and logic....YOU can't because you are brainwashed with mush.
    Crimea,   G-7,     Interference in our election,  just to name 3. do some research, drizzle person.

     

    Hard to believe so many care about Russia as a negative charge on Trumps job approval....Who cares about Russia and what they do. Russia has been doing bad things for , well ,, just forever....nothing we can do about it unless to start war( nobody wants that)....We just want to make the good ole USA better than it is now as the main goal....Get it??

    Immigration: dims want wide open borders....let everyone in from anywhere in the world....C'mon in, we will give you lots of free stuff, really!.....Trump and his supporters want to secure the border and also deport millions of illegals that have been here for many years and are still collecting welfare that you American idiots are paying for....Bring in millions and millions more third world refugees to our homeland.....No way can you make America great again by doing that kind of a stupid stunt...

     

     
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    Posted: Oct. 13, 2018 - 8:43 PM ET #8

    Instead of deflecting to immigration why not debate what you commented on? 
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    Instead of deflecting to immigration why not debate what you commented on? 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 13, 2018 - 8:45 PM ET #9

    And if you want to bawl around about welfare read this. 

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/taxanalysts/2014/03/14/where-is-the-outrage-over-corporate-welfare/#5fd817d127dd
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    And if you want to bawl around about welfare read this. 

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/taxanalysts/2014/03/14/where-is-the-outrage-over-corporate-welfare/#5fd817d127dd
     
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    Posted: Oct. 13, 2018 - 8:59 PM ET #10

    Quote Originally Posted by darkhorse12:

    Instead of deflecting to immigration why not debate what you commented on?

     

    OK, Just you go first.....How exactly did Russia interfere in the last election? AND, even more important....Are the Russians planning on doing the same nefarious things in the election in 3 weeks....AND, Who do they want to win...dim candidates or Trump endorsed candidates?

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    Quote Originally Posted by darkhorse12:

    Instead of deflecting to immigration why not debate what you commented on?

     

    OK, Just you go first.....How exactly did Russia interfere in the last election? AND, even more important....Are the Russians planning on doing the same nefarious things in the election in 3 weeks....AND, Who do they want to win...dim candidates or Trump endorsed candidates?

     
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    Posted: Oct. 14, 2018 - 1:30 AM ET #11

    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyDrizzl:

     

    OK, Just you go first.....How exactly did Russia interfere in the last election? AND, even more important....Are the Russians planning on doing the same nefarious things in the election in 3 weeks....AND, Who do they want to win...dim candidates or Trump endorsed candidates?


    They have sown the seeds of discord among the general population of the U S. They will destroy us from within. It is a proven fact that they are spreading fake news about many subjects ie vaccinations, candidates etc . If republicans win they will continue, if dems win they will continue doesn't matter which candidates win they will do everything they can do to promote doubt in the other side. The problem with trump is he will not take a stand against russia. Why is that? Maybe because being a businessman he is indebted to putin and the russian oligarchs . All he has to do is to condemn putin but I don't see that happening in the near future.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyDrizzl:

     

    OK, Just you go first.....How exactly did Russia interfere in the last election? AND, even more important....Are the Russians planning on doing the same nefarious things in the election in 3 weeks....AND, Who do they want to win...dim candidates or Trump endorsed candidates?


    They have sown the seeds of discord among the general population of the U S. They will destroy us from within. It is a proven fact that they are spreading fake news about many subjects ie vaccinations, candidates etc . If republicans win they will continue, if dems win they will continue doesn't matter which candidates win they will do everything they can do to promote doubt in the other side. The problem with trump is he will not take a stand against russia. Why is that? Maybe because being a businessman he is indebted to putin and the russian oligarchs . All he has to do is to condemn putin but I don't see that happening in the near future.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 14, 2018 - 12:42 PM ET #12

    Quote Originally Posted by darkhorse12:

    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyDrizzl:

      OK, Just you go first.....How exactly did Russia interfere in the last election? AND, even more important....Are the Russians planning on doing the same nefarious things in the election in 3 weeks....AND, Who do they want to win...dim candidates or Trump endorsed candidates?
    They have sown the seeds of discord among the general population of the U S. They will destroy us from within. It is a proven fact that they are spreading fake news about many subjects ie vaccinations, candidates etc . If republicans win they will continue, if dems win they will continue doesn't matter which candidates win they will do everything they can do to promote doubt in the other side. The problem with trump is he will not take a stand against russia. Why is that? Maybe because being a businessman he is indebted to putin and the russian oligarchs . All he has to do is to condemn putin but I don't see that happening in the near future.

     

    So much to digest from your flawed thinking...here goes...(1) "They will destroy us from within by spreading fake news"...Really?.....The general public is THAT stupid?....AGAIN, for you to understand...Russia has been doing minor meddling for decades as all countries do....Nothing new....we are still here and will survive unless you want a war to get to your socialist nirvana goal.

    (2) " Trump will not take a stand against Russia".....What do you want him to do? ..He really cannot do much except financial sanctions...I get it, finally...You want him to start a war....Isn't that what you really want?

    (3) "Condemn Putin"...What would that accomplish?.. Would anything change?... Seems as Trump is walking the fine line with Putin....Better to have him as an ally against our major biggest threat...which is...terrorism....If the religious nut cases ever get their hands on nuclear or biological weapons we will need worldwide cooperation..

    (4) Forget Russia....Let them do what they do...We will do what we do....Our goal is to improve the USA first and forever....We want jobs, freedom,peace and prosperity.....Trump is trying to do this but you left wing socialists want war...so be it!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by darkhorse12:

    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyDrizzl:

      OK, Just you go first.....How exactly did Russia interfere in the last election? AND, even more important....Are the Russians planning on doing the same nefarious things in the election in 3 weeks....AND, Who do they want to win...dim candidates or Trump endorsed candidates?
    They have sown the seeds of discord among the general population of the U S. They will destroy us from within. It is a proven fact that they are spreading fake news about many subjects ie vaccinations, candidates etc . If republicans win they will continue, if dems win they will continue doesn't matter which candidates win they will do everything they can do to promote doubt in the other side. The problem with trump is he will not take a stand against russia. Why is that? Maybe because being a businessman he is indebted to putin and the russian oligarchs . All he has to do is to condemn putin but I don't see that happening in the near future.

     

    So much to digest from your flawed thinking...here goes...(1) "They will destroy us from within by spreading fake news"...Really?.....The general public is THAT stupid?....AGAIN, for you to understand...Russia has been doing minor meddling for decades as all countries do....Nothing new....we are still here and will survive unless you want a war to get to your socialist nirvana goal.

    (2) " Trump will not take a stand against Russia".....What do you want him to do? ..He really cannot do much except financial sanctions...I get it, finally...You want him to start a war....Isn't that what you really want?

    (3) "Condemn Putin"...What would that accomplish?.. Would anything change?... Seems as Trump is walking the fine line with Putin....Better to have him as an ally against our major biggest threat...which is...terrorism....If the religious nut cases ever get their hands on nuclear or biological weapons we will need worldwide cooperation..

    (4) Forget Russia....Let them do what they do...We will do what we do....Our goal is to improve the USA first and forever....We want jobs, freedom,peace and prosperity.....Trump is trying to do this but you left wing socialists want war...so be it!!!

     
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    Posted: Oct. 14, 2018 - 2:09 PM ET #13

    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyDrizzl:

    They have sown the seeds of discord among the general population of the U S. They will destroy us from within. It is a proven fact that they are spreading fake news about many subjects ie vaccinations, candidates etc . If republicans win they will continue, if dems win they will continue doesn't matter which candidates win they will do everything they can do to promote doubt in the other side. The problem with trump is he will not take a stand against russia. Why is that? Maybe because being a businessman he is indebted to putin and the russian oligarchs . All he has to do is to condemn putin but I don't see that happening in the near future.

     

    So much to digest from your flawed thinking...here goes...(1) "They will destroy us from within by spreading fake news"...Really?.....The general public is THAT stupid?....AGAIN, for you to understand...Russia has been doing minor meddling for decades as all countries do....Nothing new....we are still here and will survive unless you want a war to get to your socialist nirvana goal.

    (2) " Trump will not take a stand against Russia".....What do you want him to do? ..He really cannot do much except financial sanctions...I get it, finally...You want him to start a war....Isn't that what you really want?

    (3) "Condemn Putin"...What would that accomplish?.. Would anything change?... Seems as Trump is walking the fine line with Putin....Better to have him as an ally against our major biggest threat...which is...terrorism....If the religious nut cases ever get their hands on nuclear or biological weapons we will need worldwide cooperation..

    (4) Forget Russia....Let them do what they do...We will do what we do....Our goal is to improve the USA first and forever....We want jobs, freedom,peace and prosperity.....Trump is trying to do this but you left wing socialists want war...so be it!!!


    1. Yes the general pop is that stupid. Remember 49% voted for a businessman who welcomed the meddling from russia. A businessman who had financial ties all over the world including russia.Now with the saudi's Hard to deal with some one when the own your soul.
    2.Why do you rightwingers always think about war?  Yes stronger financial sanctions against russia and all they deal with.
    3.The so called "fine line" you mention is the debt that trump owes the russian oligarchs.
    4.No don't forget the person,putin, who wants to destroy us. It's been his lifelong goal to do that. America first from a president and family that manufactures everything they sell in other countries? Yeah that really sends a message. How about we cut all corporate welfare? How about we get the money out of politics because that is the only way we will get the govt working for the people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyDrizzl:

    They have sown the seeds of discord among the general population of the U S. They will destroy us from within. It is a proven fact that they are spreading fake news about many subjects ie vaccinations, candidates etc . If republicans win they will continue, if dems win they will continue doesn't matter which candidates win they will do everything they can do to promote doubt in the other side. The problem with trump is he will not take a stand against russia. Why is that? Maybe because being a businessman he is indebted to putin and the russian oligarchs . All he has to do is to condemn putin but I don't see that happening in the near future.

     

    So much to digest from your flawed thinking...here goes...(1) "They will destroy us from within by spreading fake news"...Really?.....The general public is THAT stupid?....AGAIN, for you to understand...Russia has been doing minor meddling for decades as all countries do....Nothing new....we are still here and will survive unless you want a war to get to your socialist nirvana goal.

    (2) " Trump will not take a stand against Russia".....What do you want him to do? ..He really cannot do much except financial sanctions...I get it, finally...You want him to start a war....Isn't that what you really want?

    (3) "Condemn Putin"...What would that accomplish?.. Would anything change?... Seems as Trump is walking the fine line with Putin....Better to have him as an ally against our major biggest threat...which is...terrorism....If the religious nut cases ever get their hands on nuclear or biological weapons we will need worldwide cooperation..

    (4) Forget Russia....Let them do what they do...We will do what we do....Our goal is to improve the USA first and forever....We want jobs, freedom,peace and prosperity.....Trump is trying to do this but you left wing socialists want war...so be it!!!


    1. Yes the general pop is that stupid. Remember 49% voted for a businessman who welcomed the meddling from russia. A businessman who had financial ties all over the world including russia.Now with the saudi's Hard to deal with some one when the own your soul.
    2.Why do you rightwingers always think about war?  Yes stronger financial sanctions against russia and all they deal with.
    3.The so called "fine line" you mention is the debt that trump owes the russian oligarchs.
    4.No don't forget the person,putin, who wants to destroy us. It's been his lifelong goal to do that. America first from a president and family that manufactures everything they sell in other countries? Yeah that really sends a message. How about we cut all corporate welfare? How about we get the money out of politics because that is the only way we will get the govt working for the people.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 14, 2018 - 3:19 PM ET #14

    Darkhorse did you vote for Hillary?
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    Darkhorse did you vote for Hillary?
     
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    Posted: Oct. 14, 2018 - 3:24 PM ET #15

    Quote Originally Posted by bettingforfun:

    Darkhorse did you vote for Hillary?

    she was my third choice 1 step ahead of trump

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    Quote Originally Posted by bettingforfun:

    Darkhorse did you vote for Hillary?

    she was my third choice 1 step ahead of trump

     
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    Posted: Oct. 14, 2018 - 4:57 PM ET #16

    Quote Originally Posted by darkhorse12:


    she was my third choice 1 step ahead of trump


    As a good socialist ...he felt the Bern in 2016.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by darkhorse12:


    she was my third choice 1 step ahead of trump


    As a good socialist ...he felt the Bern in 2016.....
     
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    Posted: Oct. 14, 2018 - 5:47 PM ET #17

    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:


    As a good socialist ...he felt the Bern in 2016.....

    Assumption, slim? You know what they say about assuming. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:


    As a good socialist ...he felt the Bern in 2016.....

    Assumption, slim? You know what they say about assuming. 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 14, 2018 - 5:55 PM ET #18

    Quote Originally Posted by darkhorse12:


    Assumption, slim? You know what they say about assuming. 

    The Green Party's ... Jill Stein...  Good pick..
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    Quote Originally Posted by darkhorse12:


    Assumption, slim? You know what they say about assuming. 

    The Green Party's ... Jill Stein...  Good pick..
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:


    The Green Party's ... Jill Stein...  Good pick..

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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:


    The Green Party's ... Jill Stein...  Good pick..

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:


    The Green Party's ... Jill Stein...  Good pick..

    Maybe it was a write in slim like I did in 2000. Maybe Mickey Mouse or Kanya? Maybe Honest Abe or John Paul Jones . Maybe Benedict Arnold ,wait he is already in there. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:


    The Green Party's ... Jill Stein...  Good pick..

    Maybe it was a write in slim like I did in 2000. Maybe Mickey Mouse or Kanya? Maybe Honest Abe or John Paul Jones . Maybe Benedict Arnold ,wait he is already in there. 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 14, 2018 - 6:59 PM ET #21

    The next election you won't need to do a write-in ...because your favorite News channel just release a new CNN poll..and 75 yr.old former Vice President Joe “Bite-Me” Biden is favored to win the Democratic party nomination in the 2020 presidential election...over 16 potential democrat candidates in the poll...


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    The next election you won't need to do a write-in ...because your favorite News channel just release a new CNN poll..and 75 yr.old former Vice President Joe “Bite-Me” Biden is favored to win the Democratic party nomination in the 2020 presidential election...over 16 potential democrat candidates in the poll...


     
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    Posted: Oct. 14, 2018 - 7:06 PM ET #22

    Quote Originally Posted by darkhorse12:


    she was my third choice 1 step ahead of trump


    Only 2 people had the opportunity to become President.
    Trump
    Clinton
    Both candidates are seriously flawed.
    So you are down to 2 choices as to which way people believe this country will go.  Socialism or Conservatism.

    Since both candidates are morally bankrupt it’s a tie in that category.

    Now one gets to decide, Soc or Con.  Half went Soc and half went Con, respectively.  

    I find it very interesting that no one claims Hillary would have made a better President.  It’s much safer to bash Trump because no one in their right mind wants to defend Hillary.  They know they would look silly trying.  No way in he11 we have a better economy under her and the list goes on and on.

    Bottom line is this............the left needs to find a good candidate to go up against Trump in 2020 who has a plan other than Trump bashing. The left has no candidate, no plan and 2020 is fast approaching.  If they fail it will be another 4 years of blaming and bashing.  Once again Independents will decide 2020 and so far they see nothing positive coming from the left.

    Good luck in 2020.
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    Quote Originally Posted by darkhorse12:


    she was my third choice 1 step ahead of trump


    Only 2 people had the opportunity to become President.
    Trump
    Clinton
    Both candidates are seriously flawed.
    So you are down to 2 choices as to which way people believe this country will go.  Socialism or Conservatism.

    Since both candidates are morally bankrupt it’s a tie in that category.

    Now one gets to decide, Soc or Con.  Half went Soc and half went Con, respectively.  

    I find it very interesting that no one claims Hillary would have made a better President.  It’s much safer to bash Trump because no one in their right mind wants to defend Hillary.  They know they would look silly trying.  No way in he11 we have a better economy under her and the list goes on and on.

    Bottom line is this............the left needs to find a good candidate to go up against Trump in 2020 who has a plan other than Trump bashing. The left has no candidate, no plan and 2020 is fast approaching.  If they fail it will be another 4 years of blaming and bashing.  Once again Independents will decide 2020 and so far they see nothing positive coming from the left.

    Good luck in 2020.
     
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    I can see it now darkhorse12 ..in the 2020 presidential election "mobs vs.jobs"..

    Good Luck with that .........L
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    I can see it now darkhorse12 ..in the 2020 presidential election "mobs vs.jobs"..

    Good Luck with that .........L
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by bettingforfun:


    Only 2 people had the opportunity to become President.
    Trump
    Clinton
    Both candidates are seriously flawed.
    So you are down to 2 choices as to which way people believe this country will go.  Socialism or Conservatism.

    Since both candidates are morally bankrupt it’s a tie in that category.

    Now one gets to decide, Soc or Con.  Half went Soc and half went Con, respectively.  

    I find it very interesting that no one claims Hillary would have made a better President.  It’s much safer to bash Trump because no one in their right mind wants to defend Hillary.  They know they would look silly trying.  No way in he11 we have a better economy under her and the list goes on and on.

    Bottom line is this............the left needs to find a good candidate to go up against Trump in 2020 who has a plan other than Trump bashing. The left has no candidate, no plan and 2020 is fast approaching.  If they fail it will be another 4 years of blaming and bashing.  Once again Independents will decide 2020 and so far they see nothing positive coming from the left.

    Good luck in 2020.

    Please don't tell me that republicans are conservative. 1 swipe of the pen added a trillion dollars to the debt. That is not conservative. Three things I will agree with you on and they are 1 dems need to find a good candidate 2 Independents are the key to the election and 3 yes if trump gets a second term the bashing will continue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bettingforfun:


    Only 2 people had the opportunity to become President.
    Trump
    Clinton
    Both candidates are seriously flawed.
    So you are down to 2 choices as to which way people believe this country will go.  Socialism or Conservatism.

    Since both candidates are morally bankrupt it’s a tie in that category.

    Now one gets to decide, Soc or Con.  Half went Soc and half went Con, respectively.  

    I find it very interesting that no one claims Hillary would have made a better President.  It’s much safer to bash Trump because no one in their right mind wants to defend Hillary.  They know they would look silly trying.  No way in he11 we have a better economy under her and the list goes on and on.

    Bottom line is this............the left needs to find a good candidate to go up against Trump in 2020 who has a plan other than Trump bashing. The left has no candidate, no plan and 2020 is fast approaching.  If they fail it will be another 4 years of blaming and bashing.  Once again Independents will decide 2020 and so far they see nothing positive coming from the left.

    Good luck in 2020.

    Please don't tell me that republicans are conservative. 1 swipe of the pen added a trillion dollars to the debt. That is not conservative. Three things I will agree with you on and they are 1 dems need to find a good candidate 2 Independents are the key to the election and 3 yes if trump gets a second term the bashing will continue.

     
     
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     "In my life, I have watched John Kennedy talk on television about missiles in Cuba. I saw Lyndon Johnson look Richard Russell squarely in the eye and and say, "And we shall overcome." I saw Richard Nixon resign and Gerald Ford tell the Congress that our long national nightmare was over. I saw Jimmy Carter talk about malaise and Ronald Reagan talk about a shining city on a hill. I saw George H.W. Bush deliver the eulogy for the Soviet bloc, and Bill Clinton comfort the survivors of Timothy McVeigh's madness in Oklahoma City. I saw George W. Bush struggle to make sense of it all on September 11, 2001, and I saw Barack Obama sing "Amazing Grace" in the wounded sanctuary of Mother Emanuel Church in Charleston, South Carolina.

    These were the presidents of my lifetime. These were not perfect men. They were not perfect presidents, god knows. Not one of them was that. But they approached the job, and they took to the podium, with all the gravitas they could muster as appropriate to the job. They tried, at least, to reach for something in the presidency that was beyond their grasp as ordinary human beings. They were not all ennobled by the attempt, but they tried nonetheless.

    And comes now this hopeless, vicious buffoon, and the audience of equally hopeless and vicious buffoons who laughed and cheered when he made sport of a woman whose lasting memory of the trauma she suffered is the laughter of the perpetrators. Now he comes, a man swathed in scandal, with no interest beyond what he can put in his pocket and what he can put over on a universe of suckers, and he does something like this while occupying an office that we gave him, and while endowed with a public trust that he dishonors every day he wakes up in the White House.

    The scion of a multigenerational criminal enterprise, the parameters of which we are only now beginning to comprehend. A vessel for all the worst elements of the American condition. And a cheap, soulless bully besides. Watch him again, behind the seal of the President of the United States. Isn't he a funny man? Isn't what happened to that lady hilarious? Watch the assembled morons cheer. This is the only story now."
    – Charles Pierce
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     "In my life, I have watched John Kennedy talk on television about missiles in Cuba. I saw Lyndon Johnson look Richard Russell squarely in the eye and and say, "And we shall overcome." I saw Richard Nixon resign and Gerald Ford tell the Congress that our long national nightmare was over. I saw Jimmy Carter talk about malaise and Ronald Reagan talk about a shining city on a hill. I saw George H.W. Bush deliver the eulogy for the Soviet bloc, and Bill Clinton comfort the survivors of Timothy McVeigh's madness in Oklahoma City. I saw George W. Bush struggle to make sense of it all on September 11, 2001, and I saw Barack Obama sing "Amazing Grace" in the wounded sanctuary of Mother Emanuel Church in Charleston, South Carolina.

    These were the presidents of my lifetime. These were not perfect men. They were not perfect presidents, god knows. Not one of them was that. But they approached the job, and they took to the podium, with all the gravitas they could muster as appropriate to the job. They tried, at least, to reach for something in the presidency that was beyond their grasp as ordinary human beings. They were not all ennobled by the attempt, but they tried nonetheless.

    And comes now this hopeless, vicious buffoon, and the audience of equally hopeless and vicious buffoons who laughed and cheered when he made sport of a woman whose lasting memory of the trauma she suffered is the laughter of the perpetrators. Now he comes, a man swathed in scandal, with no interest beyond what he can put in his pocket and what he can put over on a universe of suckers, and he does something like this while occupying an office that we gave him, and while endowed with a public trust that he dishonors every day he wakes up in the White House.

    The scion of a multigenerational criminal enterprise, the parameters of which we are only now beginning to comprehend. A vessel for all the worst elements of the American condition. And a cheap, soulless bully besides. Watch him again, behind the seal of the President of the United States. Isn't he a funny man? Isn't what happened to that lady hilarious? Watch the assembled morons cheer. This is the only story now."
    – Charles Pierce
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