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    Obama Just Got Caught Lying About $400M Iran Ransom Payment

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    zelo123
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    Posted: Aug. 18, 2016 - 7:51 PM ET #1

    President Obama claimed that his administration’s $400 million payment to Iran had nothing to do with the release of the four American hostages held there, but rather was the first installment to repay the failed 1979 arms deal with the last Shah of Iran prior to the Islamic revolution.

    The Wall Street Journal reported:

    “New details of the $400 million U.S. payment to Iran earlier this year depict a tightly scripted exchange specifically timed to the release of several American prisoners held in Iran.

    The picture emerged from accounts of U.S. officials and others briefed on the operation: U.S. officials wouldn’t let Iranians take control of the money until a Swiss Air Force plane carrying three freed Americans departed from Tehran on Jan. 17. Once that happened, an Iranian cargo plane was allowed to bring the cash home from a Geneva airport that day.”

    On Aug. 4, Obama claimed that the reason why the payment had to be in cash was because the U.S. and Iran do not have a banking relationship that would allow a check or wire transfer.

    Congress plans to hold a hearing on the payment once they are back in session after the summer break. Wisconsin Republican Rep. Sean Duffy has already requested records of the transaction.

    This new information provides even more evidence that the cash was likely a ransom paid to to release the American hostages despite Obama’s claims.

    According to WSJ:

    “One of the Americans released in January as part of the prisoner exchange, a pastor named Saeed Abedini, said he and other American prisoners were kept waiting at Mehrabad airport from Jan. 16 to the morning of Jan. 17. He said in an interview that he was told by a senior Iranian intelligence official at the time that their departure was contingent upon the movements of a second airplane. Mr. Abedini said he has been asked to testify next month before the House Foreign Relations Committee.”

    Clearly this was a ransom, and like the rest of the Iran nuclear deal a massive, embarrassing, and dangerous failure of the Obama administration.

    Now enemy countries can be emboldened by the idea that Americans are willing to pay ransoms to get hostages back. Not only that, but Obama gives over a billion dollars to and lifts sanctions on Iran, a country that states it wants to wipe Israel, our strongest ally in the Middle East, off the face of the earth.

    America cannot have another eight years of failed Obama administration policies, and that’s exactly what Democrat presidential nominee Hillary Clinton is proposing. GOP nominee Donald Trump needs to win in November or God only knows how much damage Clinton will do.

    https://www.thefederalistpapers.org/us/busted-obama-just-got-caught-lying-about-400m-iran-ransom-payment

    When Bill Clinton lied to the American people he was impeached. When Hilary lied to the American people she was praised for a job well done. When Obama now gets caught lying to the American people will he get another chance at becoming a third term president? What's up with the American people? Don't they get it?                     

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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.

    President Obama claimed that his administration’s $400 million payment to Iran had nothing to do with the release of the four American hostages held there, but rather was the first installment to repay the failed 1979 arms deal with the last Shah of Iran prior to the Islamic revolution.

    The Wall Street Journal reported:

    “New details of the $400 million U.S. payment to Iran earlier this year depict a tightly scripted exchange specifically timed to the release of several American prisoners held in Iran.

    The picture emerged from accounts of U.S. officials and others briefed on the operation: U.S. officials wouldn’t let Iranians take control of the money until a Swiss Air Force plane carrying three freed Americans departed from Tehran on Jan. 17. Once that happened, an Iranian cargo plane was allowed to bring the cash home from a Geneva airport that day.”

    On Aug. 4, Obama claimed that the reason why the payment had to be in cash was because the U.S. and Iran do not have a banking relationship that would allow a check or wire transfer.

    Congress plans to hold a hearing on the payment once they are back in session after the summer break. Wisconsin Republican Rep. Sean Duffy has already requested records of the transaction.

    This new information provides even more evidence that the cash was likely a ransom paid to to release the American hostages despite Obama’s claims.

    According to WSJ:

    “One of the Americans released in January as part of the prisoner exchange, a pastor named Saeed Abedini, said he and other American prisoners were kept waiting at Mehrabad airport from Jan. 16 to the morning of Jan. 17. He said in an interview that he was told by a senior Iranian intelligence official at the time that their departure was contingent upon the movements of a second airplane. Mr. Abedini said he has been asked to testify next month before the House Foreign Relations Committee.”

    Clearly this was a ransom, and like the rest of the Iran nuclear deal a massive, embarrassing, and dangerous failure of the Obama administration.

    Now enemy countries can be emboldened by the idea that Americans are willing to pay ransoms to get hostages back. Not only that, but Obama gives over a billion dollars to and lifts sanctions on Iran, a country that states it wants to wipe Israel, our strongest ally in the Middle East, off the face of the earth.

    America cannot have another eight years of failed Obama administration policies, and that’s exactly what Democrat presidential nominee Hillary Clinton is proposing. GOP nominee Donald Trump needs to win in November or God only knows how much damage Clinton will do.

    https://www.thefederalistpapers.org/us/busted-obama-just-got-caught-lying-about-400m-iran-ransom-payment

    When Bill Clinton lied to the American people he was impeached. When Hilary lied to the American people she was praised for a job well done. When Obama now gets caught lying to the American people will he get another chance at becoming a third term president? What's up with the American people? Don't they get it?                     

     
    BWS77
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    Posted: Aug. 18, 2016 - 8:00 PM ET #2

    Bill Clinton was not impeached.   
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    Bill Clinton was not impeached.   
     
    bowlslit
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    Posted: Aug. 18, 2016 - 8:05 PM ET #3

    Quote Originally Posted by BWS77:

    Bill Clinton was not impeached.   


    Correct, he was saved by ALL of the corrupt Democrats who voted to acquit him even though the all knew he was guilty of perjuring himself.

    How does it feel to be a supporter of the most corrupt political party in US history?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BWS77:

    Bill Clinton was not impeached.   


    Correct, he was saved by ALL of the corrupt Democrats who voted to acquit him even though the all knew he was guilty of perjuring himself.

    How does it feel to be a supporter of the most corrupt political party in US history?
     
    wallstreetcappers
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    Posted: Aug. 18, 2016 - 8:10 PM ET #4

    Quote Originally Posted by bowlslit:



    Correct, he was saved by ALL of the corrupt Democrats who voted to acquit him even though the all knew he was guilty of perjuring himself.

    How does it feel to be a supporter of the most corrupt political party in US history?

    So tell me how a reply like this helps anything or anyone?

    Are you angry at the political parties, the system in general or are you wanting to fight with someone who chooses the party you disagree with?

    Picking a fight just to get a rise out of someone is something Trump likes to do...so what does that say about your party?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bowlslit:



    Correct, he was saved by ALL of the corrupt Democrats who voted to acquit him even though the all knew he was guilty of perjuring himself.

    How does it feel to be a supporter of the most corrupt political party in US history?

    So tell me how a reply like this helps anything or anyone?

    Are you angry at the political parties, the system in general or are you wanting to fight with someone who chooses the party you disagree with?

    Picking a fight just to get a rise out of someone is something Trump likes to do...so what does that say about your party?

     
    BWS77
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    Posted: Aug. 18, 2016 - 9:08 PM ET #5

    Quote Originally Posted by bowlslit:



    Correct, he was saved by ALL of the corrupt Democrats who voted to acquit him even though the all knew he was guilty of perjuring himself.

    How does it feel to be a supporter of the most corrupt political party in US history?

    Just correcting the guy who made a false statement.   That's a full time job around these parts.    
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    Quote Originally Posted by bowlslit:



    Correct, he was saved by ALL of the corrupt Democrats who voted to acquit him even though the all knew he was guilty of perjuring himself.

    How does it feel to be a supporter of the most corrupt political party in US history?

    Just correcting the guy who made a false statement.   That's a full time job around these parts.    
     
    bowlslit
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    Posted: Aug. 18, 2016 - 9:24 PM ET #6

    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:


    So tell me how a reply like this helps anything or anyone?

    Are you angry at the political parties, the system in general or are you wanting to fight with someone who chooses the party you disagree with?

    Picking a fight just to get a rise out of someone is something Trump likes to do...so what does that say about your party?



    Wall that is a fair question.

    But, I genuinely would like to know what it feels like to support the most crooked party in the history of the United States. It is actually material for a good debate. Such a feeling, I will never have the chance to know or experience first hand.

    We both know that I don't like to engage in what you call a 'fight'.

    I genuinely feel like he is a prime candidate to provide the best answer.


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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:


    So tell me how a reply like this helps anything or anyone?

    Are you angry at the political parties, the system in general or are you wanting to fight with someone who chooses the party you disagree with?

    Picking a fight just to get a rise out of someone is something Trump likes to do...so what does that say about your party?



    Wall that is a fair question.

    But, I genuinely would like to know what it feels like to support the most crooked party in the history of the United States. It is actually material for a good debate. Such a feeling, I will never have the chance to know or experience first hand.

    We both know that I don't like to engage in what you call a 'fight'.

    I genuinely feel like he is a prime candidate to provide the best answer.


     
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    Posted: Aug. 18, 2016 - 9:47 PM ET #7

    Bill Clinton was impeached by the House, and acquitted by the Senate, which are two distinct processes.

    Q. What is the role of the House of Representatives in impeachment under the Constitution?

    A. Article 1, Section 2, of the Constitution specifies that "the House of Representatives...shall have the sole power of impeachment." This means that it has the power to bring charges against an official.

    Q. What is the Senate's role under the Constitution?

    A. Once impeached, high officials are tried by the Senate. Article 1, Section 3, specifies, "The Senate shall have the sole power to try all impeachments. When sitting for that purpose, they shall be on oath or affirmation. When the President of the United States is tried, the Chief Justice shall preside: And no person shall be convicted without the concurrence of two thirds of the members present."

    What  William Jefferson Blythe III  a.k.a Bill Clinton did do was:


    Bill Clinton admitted that he misled ( lied ) to the American public and his family. He provided perjurious, false and misleading
    false testimony under oath to the grand jury....looks like it runs in the family .......
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    Bill Clinton was impeached by the House, and acquitted by the Senate, which are two distinct processes.

    Q. What is the role of the House of Representatives in impeachment under the Constitution?

    A. Article 1, Section 2, of the Constitution specifies that "the House of Representatives...shall have the sole power of impeachment." This means that it has the power to bring charges against an official.

    Q. What is the Senate's role under the Constitution?

    A. Once impeached, high officials are tried by the Senate. Article 1, Section 3, specifies, "The Senate shall have the sole power to try all impeachments. When sitting for that purpose, they shall be on oath or affirmation. When the President of the United States is tried, the Chief Justice shall preside: And no person shall be convicted without the concurrence of two thirds of the members present."

    What  William Jefferson Blythe III  a.k.a Bill Clinton did do was:


    Bill Clinton admitted that he misled ( lied ) to the American public and his family. He provided perjurious, false and misleading
    false testimony under oath to the grand jury....looks like it runs in the family .......
     
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    Posted: Aug. 18, 2016 - 9:54 PM ET #8

    LOL

      Bill Clinton was impeached on December 19 1998

    If you don't believe me google it.
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    LOL

      Bill Clinton was impeached on December 19 1998

    If you don't believe me google it.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    Bill Clinton was impeached by the House, and acquitted by the Senate, which are two distinct processes.

    Q. What is the role of the House of Representatives in impeachment under the Constitution?

    A. Article 1, Section 2, of the Constitution specifies that "the House of Representatives...shall have the sole power of impeachment." This means that it has the power to bring charges against an official.

    Q. What is the Senate's role under the Constitution?

    A. Once impeached, high officials are tried by the Senate. Article 1, Section 3, specifies, "The Senate shall have the sole power to try all impeachments. When sitting for that purpose, they shall be on oath or affirmation. When the President of the United States is tried, the Chief Justice shall preside: And no person shall be convicted without the concurrence of two thirds of the members present."

    What  William Jefferson Blythe III  a.k.a Bill Clinton did do was:


    Bill Clinton admitted that he misled ( lied ) to the American public and his family. He provided perjurious, false and misleading
    false testimony under oath to the grand jury....looks like it runs in the family .......


    Correct.

    And I also correctly pointed out that the only thing that saved him from the senate is that his fellow crooked dems clearly and irrefutably put politics before justice.

    On a side note: I wonder if HRC is thinking about appointing Ryan Lochte to a cabinet position based on his recently discovered abilities?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    Bill Clinton was impeached by the House, and acquitted by the Senate, which are two distinct processes.

    Q. What is the role of the House of Representatives in impeachment under the Constitution?

    A. Article 1, Section 2, of the Constitution specifies that "the House of Representatives...shall have the sole power of impeachment." This means that it has the power to bring charges against an official.

    Q. What is the Senate's role under the Constitution?

    A. Once impeached, high officials are tried by the Senate. Article 1, Section 3, specifies, "The Senate shall have the sole power to try all impeachments. When sitting for that purpose, they shall be on oath or affirmation. When the President of the United States is tried, the Chief Justice shall preside: And no person shall be convicted without the concurrence of two thirds of the members present."

    What  William Jefferson Blythe III  a.k.a Bill Clinton did do was:


    Bill Clinton admitted that he misled ( lied ) to the American public and his family. He provided perjurious, false and misleading
    false testimony under oath to the grand jury....looks like it runs in the family .......


    Correct.

    And I also correctly pointed out that the only thing that saved him from the senate is that his fellow crooked dems clearly and irrefutably put politics before justice.

    On a side note: I wonder if HRC is thinking about appointing Ryan Lochte to a cabinet position based on his recently discovered abilities?
     
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    Posted: Aug. 18, 2016 - 9:55 PM ET #10

    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    Bill Clinton was impeached by the House, and acquitted by the Senate, which are two distinct processes.

    Q. What is the role of the House of Representatives in impeachment under the Constitution?

    A. Article 1, Section 2, of the Constitution specifies that "the House of Representatives...shall have the sole power of impeachment." This means that it has the power to bring charges against an official.

    Q. What is the Senate's role under the Constitution?

    A. Once impeached, high officials are tried by the Senate. Article 1, Section 3, specifies, "The Senate shall have the sole power to try all impeachments. When sitting for that purpose, they shall be on oath or affirmation. When the President of the United States is tried, the Chief Justice shall preside: And no person shall be convicted without the concurrence of two thirds of the members present."

    What  William Jefferson Blythe III  a.k.a Bill Clinton did do was:


    Bill Clinton admitted that he misled ( lied ) to the American public and his family. He provided perjurious, false and misleading
    false testimony under oath to the grand jury....looks like it runs in the family .......




    Reply
    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    Bill Clinton was impeached by the House, and acquitted by the Senate, which are two distinct processes.

    Q. What is the role of the House of Representatives in impeachment under the Constitution?

    A. Article 1, Section 2, of the Constitution specifies that "the House of Representatives...shall have the sole power of impeachment." This means that it has the power to bring charges against an official.

    Q. What is the Senate's role under the Constitution?

    A. Once impeached, high officials are tried by the Senate. Article 1, Section 3, specifies, "The Senate shall have the sole power to try all impeachments. When sitting for that purpose, they shall be on oath or affirmation. When the President of the United States is tried, the Chief Justice shall preside: And no person shall be convicted without the concurrence of two thirds of the members present."

    What  William Jefferson Blythe III  a.k.a Bill Clinton did do was:


    Bill Clinton admitted that he misled ( lied ) to the American public and his family. He provided perjurious, false and misleading
    false testimony under oath to the grand jury....looks like it runs in the family .......




     
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    Posted: Aug. 18, 2016 - 10:00 PM ET #11

    Quote Originally Posted by BWS77:

    Bill Clinton was not impeached.   

    wrong...

    It's amazing how we are still having the same, tired discussions....it's actually depressing to come to the realization of the complete dumpster fire this country (USA) is becoming.

    God have mercy on us all!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BWS77:

    Bill Clinton was not impeached.   

    wrong...

    It's amazing how we are still having the same, tired discussions....it's actually depressing to come to the realization of the complete dumpster fire this country (USA) is becoming.

    God have mercy on us all!

     
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    Posted: Aug. 18, 2016 - 10:05 PM ET #12

    The ransom is chump change
    Iran will receive 150 billion
    O/Hillary is also waging a proxy war against Iran in Syria
    We are funding both sides of a war that has killed 400,000
    and created 10 million refugees.



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    The ransom is chump change
    Iran will receive 150 billion
    O/Hillary is also waging a proxy war against Iran in Syria
    We are funding both sides of a war that has killed 400,000
    and created 10 million refugees.



     
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    Quote Originally Posted by BWS77:

    Bill Clinton was not impeached.   

    Yeah I'm reading things over and it seems like although a full impeachment was in process it never happened and 

    Bill Clinton was not impeached...

    Which I guess is similar to Nixon in that he wasn't impeached either. He just cut and run from executive office with the fear of what seemed like certain impeachment.  


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    Quote Originally Posted by BWS77:

    Bill Clinton was not impeached.   

    Yeah I'm reading things over and it seems like although a full impeachment was in process it never happened and 

    Bill Clinton was not impeached...

    Which I guess is similar to Nixon in that he wasn't impeached either. He just cut and run from executive office with the fear of what seemed like certain impeachment.  


     
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    Posted: Aug. 19, 2016 - 12:58 AM ET #14

    LOL  google it

    you misunderstand the word impeach



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    LOL  google it

    you misunderstand the word impeach



     
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    Posted: Aug. 19, 2016 - 1:00 AM ET #15

    also try googling



    Hillary Clinton Syrian Bloodbath
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    also try googling



    Hillary Clinton Syrian Bloodbath
     
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    Posted: Aug. 19, 2016 - 10:51 AM ET #16

    $400,000,000 to the failed state that is the largest sponsor of terrorism worldwide.
    Appeasement of the enemy ? Optics.
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    $400,000,000 to the failed state that is the largest sponsor of terrorism worldwide.
    Appeasement of the enemy ? Optics.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 19, 2016 - 11:35 AM ET #17

    Obama lies should be used to it by now 

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    Obama lies should be used to it by now 

     
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    Posted: Aug. 19, 2016 - 11:41 AM ET #18

    Quote Originally Posted by Irving11:

    also try googling



    Hillary Clinton Syrian Bloodbath
    What's wrong with you bud don't you if a Democrat starts wars it's ok to their mindless followers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irving11:

    also try googling



    Hillary Clinton Syrian Bloodbath
    What's wrong with you bud don't you if a Democrat starts wars it's ok to their mindless followers.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 19, 2016 - 12:33 PM ET #19

    It took the media 2 decades to get over iran-contra

    not even interested in the Syrian war


          #CNN IS HITLER
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    It took the media 2 decades to get over iran-contra

    not even interested in the Syrian war


          #CNN IS HITLER
     
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    Posted: Aug. 19, 2016 - 12:49 PM ET #20

    Quote Originally Posted by Irving11:

    LOL  google it

    you misunderstand the word impeach




    What is so funny? Are you making an unnecessary jab at me when I have done nothing like toward you just to cause a problem?

    I what is that I misunderstand?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irving11:

    LOL  google it

    you misunderstand the word impeach




    What is so funny? Are you making an unnecessary jab at me when I have done nothing like toward you just to cause a problem?

    I what is that I misunderstand?
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irving11:

    It took the media 2 decades to get over iran-contra

    not even interested in the Syrian war


          #CNN IS HITLER

    Cnn is hitler?  What does that mean?

    And what do you mean by it took the media 2 decades to get over iran-contra?  
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irving11:

    It took the media 2 decades to get over iran-contra

    not even interested in the Syrian war


          #CNN IS HITLER

    Cnn is hitler?  What does that mean?

    And what do you mean by it took the media 2 decades to get over iran-contra?  
     
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    Posted: Aug. 19, 2016 - 1:14 PM ET #22

    Ok arguing about the definition of impeach is silly.

    My point is that the media would be furious  about Benghazi and the Syrian war if a republican was in the Whitehouse
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    Ok arguing about the definition of impeach is silly.

    My point is that the media would be furious  about Benghazi and the Syrian war if a republican was in the Whitehouse
     
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    With out attorneys general office. Or a supermajority in Senate impeachment proceeding is a complete waste of tax payers money. He has 70 days and a wake up until Hillary transition team tales over. Of the rep think Amy different welcome to reality this is earth and Republican party lost by a landslide
    Historical reference blame a do nothing Congress party infighting the widely held belief that her challenger is a lunatic. That the TWA party tale over led to the demise of the GOP and as the Whigs pr federalist before they lost leaving a wake before a future conservative party merges from the Phoenix trump left this party in ashes.
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    With out attorneys general office. Or a supermajority in Senate impeachment proceeding is a complete waste of tax payers money. He has 70 days and a wake up until Hillary transition team tales over. Of the rep think Amy different welcome to reality this is earth and Republican party lost by a landslide
    Historical reference blame a do nothing Congress party infighting the widely held belief that her challenger is a lunatic. That the TWA party tale over led to the demise of the GOP and as the Whigs pr federalist before they lost leaving a wake before a future conservative party merges from the Phoenix trump left this party in ashes.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 21, 2016 - 7:40 PM ET #24

    It was THEIR $$, it did not come out of our pockets.And had we not brought home those prisoners these same people who do not understand this fact would be howling that we did not.
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    It was THEIR $$, it did not come out of our pockets.And had we not brought home those prisoners these same people who do not understand this fact would be howling that we did not.
     
     
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    Posted: Aug. 21, 2016 - 8:56 PM ET #25

    Quote Originally Posted by Irving11:

    Ok arguing about the definition of impeach is silly.

    My point is that the media would be furious  about Benghazi and the Syrian war if a republican was in the Whitehouse
    and if it was a dem admin that got us into Iraq the hearings & inquires etc etc would still be going on today.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irving11:

    Ok arguing about the definition of impeach is silly.

    My point is that the media would be furious  about Benghazi and the Syrian war if a republican was in the Whitehouse
    and if it was a dem admin that got us into Iraq the hearings & inquires etc etc would still be going on today.
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