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MrWhatsItToYa

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Posted: May. 28, 2022 - 5:50 PM ET #26

We give these suicidals (as you put it),the means and opportunity to kill as many people as they want.Why they want to do it (going down in infamy),or just cause their f*cked up in the head is really not that important in the long run,our gun laws provide the opportunity for them to do it,it shouldnt be that way.

baish2012

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Posted: May. 28, 2022 - 5:54 PM ET #27

Quote Originally Posted by MrWhatsItToYa:

We give these suicidals (as you put it),the means and opportunity to kill as many people as they want.Why they want to do it (going down in infamy),or just cause their f*cked up in the head is really not that important in the long run,our gun laws provide the opportunity for them to do it,it shouldnt be that way.

Hit the nail on the head right there! an_clap

UNIMAN

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Posted: May. 28, 2022 - 5:58 PM ET #28

What gun law would not provide the opportunity to kill multiple people?

baish2012

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Posted: May. 28, 2022 - 6:00 PM ET #29

Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

@I_Need_A_Detox Your own words actually prove the very point being made by "progressives" and "liberals", so Trump the dope congrats someone for a sharp shot...that is true and likely saved lives, but how many shots did it take to stop the person? Did that Wilson guy need 200-300 shots to stop the other guy or was it enough to have a much lower quantity? You are playing into the hands of the NRA when you fear other people and their guns to rationalize the need for weapons that can kill hundreds in seconds, that is what the NRA wants you to do, to blindly and generally accept all and any guns as protection under the 2nd and to try and stop ANY gun is a strike against the 2nd. I dont think you hear many people on this forum, out in society saying that zero guns for the right wing gun fan is what the objective is and nothing else is acceptable. Most people who are in support of gun control want limits on magazines, capacity, destructive types of ammunition etc, not the full elimination of any and all guns.

BINGO!

Midnight1

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Posted: May. 28, 2022 - 7:42 PM ET #30

In a town near us, police are offering $150 for any gun turned in with no questions asked. I kind of wonder about "no questions asked" especially if they learn it was stolen.

The gift cards are from their Law Enforcement Trust Fund that gets forfeited money from arrests.

Anything that gets guns off the streets is a good idea IMO.

Midnight1

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Posted: May. 28, 2022 - 8:06 PM ET #31

At the NRA convention today, Brevard (FL) Sheriff Wayne Ivey says that instead of arming teachers, schools should have custodians, maintenance staff, and librarians carrying firearms on campus.

Sounds like Archie Bunker's idea to "arm all passengers to stop hijackings."

DrStrangelove

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Posted: May. 28, 2022 - 8:14 PM ET #32

Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

At the NRA convention today, Brevard (FL) Sheriff Wayne Ivey says that instead of arming teachers, schools should have custodians, maintenance staff, and librarians carrying firearms on campus. Sounds like Archie Bunker's idea to "arm all passengers to stop hijackings."

You’re at the playground with your kids. You and all the other parents are watching the youngsters play. One kid picks up a stick and starts beating the other kids.

Democrat's solution: Take the stick away from the kid.

Republican's solution: Give all the kids a stick.

UNIMAN

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Posted: May. 28, 2022 - 8:21 PM ET #33

Democrat's solution is to cut down all the trees. The kid with the stick is really a victim.

This thread isn't about solutions it's just more partisan bickering.

I_Need_A_Detox

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Posted: May. 28, 2022 - 8:25 PM ET #34

“Most felons report obtaining the majority of their firearms from informal sources,”

Lets address this problem before going after the rights of law abiding citizens.

I_Need_A_Detox

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Posted: May. 28, 2022 - 8:26 PM ET #35

Researchers also found that the majority of firearm deaths are from suicide, not homicide.

Is suicide a mental health issue or nah?

I_Need_A_Detox

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Posted: May. 28, 2022 - 8:30 PM ET #36

African American males are most affected by firearm-related violence, with “32 per 100,000” deaths.

Only 8% of African Americans considered themselves Republicans. 88% of African Americans voted for Democrat Hillary Clinton in 2016.

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Zeus4par

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Posted: May. 28, 2022 - 8:38 PM ET #37

Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

In a town near us, police are offering $150 for any gun turned in with no questions asked. I kind of wonder about "no questions asked" especially if they learn it was stolen. The gift cards are from their Law Enforcement Trust Fund that gets forfeited money from arrests. Anything that gets guns off the streets is a good idea IMO.

No argument here.

baish2012

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Posted: May. 29, 2022 - 1:18 PM ET #38

Quote Originally Posted by DrStrangelove:

Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: At the NRA convention today, Brevard (FL) Sheriff Wayne Ivey says that instead of arming teachers, schools should have custodians, maintenance staff, and librarians carrying firearms on campus. Sounds like Archie Bunker's idea to "arm all passengers to stop hijackings."

You’re at the playground with your kids. You and all the other parents are watching the youngsters play. One kid picks up a stick and starts beating the other kids.

Democrat's solution: Take the stick away from the kid.

Republican's solution: Give all the kids a stick.

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KellyM_1964

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Posted: May. 29, 2022 - 2:33 PM ET #39

Quote Originally Posted by DrStrangelove:

Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: Sounds like Archie Bunker's idea to "arm all passengers to stop hijackings."

You’re at the playground with your kids. You and all the other parents are watching the youngsters play. One kid picks up a stick and starts beating the other kids.

Democrat's solution: Take the stick away from the kid.

Republican's solution: Give all the kids a stick.

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Europa

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Posted: Jun. 2, 2022 - 1:14 AM ET #40

Quote Originally Posted by Europa:

Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: It’s just liberals want to take your guns and leave you defenseless against criminals. This is one of the reasons why we don't make progress on solving this national problem. National rifle association blames everything for gun violence except for guns. But gun control is the most significant reason why other countries have been more successful in reducing violent crimes. If guns are so safe, hypocritical NRA wouldn't need to ban guns at their conference. According to Scientific American magazine, many studies show more guns don't make Americans safer or stop more crimes. Contrary to hype, unintended consequences often happen when people have guns at home for self defense. Risks of accidental shootings, homicides, assaults and suicides are far more common than rare gun uses for self defense. Mass shooting very rarely happens in other countries, less guns means less firearm massacres. Especially, the weapon of war, like assault rifles plus high-capacity magazine or unlimited rounds of magazine surely causes mass destruction of lives in short period of time. 18 year old Uvalde shooter owned two AR15 type assault rifles and seven 30 round magazines. Ironically, Texas attorney general Ken Paxton suggests a female elementary teacher armed with a handgun to counter this kind of shooter while 19 cops hold up for 45 minutes in school hallway and do nothing? Hello, reckless.

Sadly, within a week we had another mass shooting this time occurs at Tulsa hospital. Shooter had one semiautomatic handgun and rifle. Now what? Will Texas attorney general Ken Paxton suggest doctors and nurses be armed with a semiautomatic rifle?

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