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    KellyM_1964
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    Posted: Aug. 27, 2020 - 2:57 PM ET #26

    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    "If they want to protest, I don't think we care," he said.

    "I'm the MOST HONEST human being that GOD EVER created!" - Donald "the felon" Trump
    Reply

    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    "If they want to protest, I don't think we care," he said.

     
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    Posted: Aug. 27, 2020 - 3:05 PM ET #27

    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Top White House officials dismiss significance of NBA boycotts

    LeBron James had a change of mind and Lakers and Clippers will resume

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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Top White House officials dismiss significance of NBA boycotts

    LeBron James had a change of mind and Lakers and Clippers will resume

     
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    Posted: Aug. 27, 2020 - 3:09 PM ET #28

    Trump stays silent on Jacob Blake shooting


    but vows to stop violent protests


    and slams the NBA

     

    (CNN) Even as President Donald Trump loudly pledges to restore
    "law and order" to a Wisconsin city gripped by protests, he has
    remained silent on what prompted the unrest: another police shooting
    of a Black man.


    Asked about the situation during a storm briefing at the Federal
    Emergency Management Agency headquarters on Thursday, Trump
    focused on quelling the protests without addressing the shooting
    that precipitated them.


    He wrote off a boycott by NBA players, claiming the league had
    become too political after several teams declined to play Wednesday
    night in protest of police violence against Black Americans.

    Reply

    Trump stays silent on Jacob Blake shooting


    but vows to stop violent protests


    and slams the NBA

     

    (CNN) Even as President Donald Trump loudly pledges to restore
    "law and order" to a Wisconsin city gripped by protests, he has
    remained silent on what prompted the unrest: another police shooting
    of a Black man.


    Asked about the situation during a storm briefing at the Federal
    Emergency Management Agency headquarters on Thursday, Trump
    focused on quelling the protests without addressing the shooting
    that precipitated them.


    He wrote off a boycott by NBA players, claiming the league had
    become too political after several teams declined to play Wednesday
    night in protest of police violence against Black Americans.

     
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    Posted: Aug. 27, 2020 - 3:11 PM ET #29

    Updated 2:02 PM ET, Thu August 27, 2020

     

    Since the death of George Floyd, an unarmed Black man who was killed in police custody in May, many athletes and sports leagues have been throwing their support behind the protest movement calling for change.

    The latest development came Wednesday when the NBA's Milwaukee Bucks decided to boycott their playoff game against the Orlando Magic. The Bucks were responding to the recent police shooting of Jacob Blake, which happened in Kenosha, Wisconsin, about 40 miles from Milwaukee.

    "The past four months have shed a light on the ongoing racial injustices facing our African American communities," the Bucks players said in a statement. "Citizens around the country have used their voices and platforms to speak out against these wrongdoings.

    "Over the last few days in our home state of Wisconsin, we've seen the horrendous video of Jacob Blake being shot in the back seven times by a police officer in Kenosha, and the additional shooting of protestors. Despite the overwhelming plea for change, there has been no action, so our focus today cannot be on basketball."

    Reply

    Updated 2:02 PM ET, Thu August 27, 2020

     

    Since the death of George Floyd, an unarmed Black man who was killed in police custody in May, many athletes and sports leagues have been throwing their support behind the protest movement calling for change.

    The latest development came Wednesday when the NBA's Milwaukee Bucks decided to boycott their playoff game against the Orlando Magic. The Bucks were responding to the recent police shooting of Jacob Blake, which happened in Kenosha, Wisconsin, about 40 miles from Milwaukee.

    "The past four months have shed a light on the ongoing racial injustices facing our African American communities," the Bucks players said in a statement. "Citizens around the country have used their voices and platforms to speak out against these wrongdoings.

    "Over the last few days in our home state of Wisconsin, we've seen the horrendous video of Jacob Blake being shot in the back seven times by a police officer in Kenosha, and the additional shooting of protestors. Despite the overwhelming plea for change, there has been no action, so our focus today cannot be on basketball."

     
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    Posted: Aug. 27, 2020 - 3:14 PM ET #30

    NBA postpones all 3 Thursday games

     

    From CNN's David Close


    Here's a statement from the NBA:

    “NBA playoff games for today will not be played as scheduled.
    We are hopeful to resume games either Friday or Saturday.
    There is a video conference call meeting scheduled later this afternoon
    between a group of NBA players and team governors representing the
    13 teams in Orlando, along with representatives from the National
    Basketball Players Association and the league office and NBA Labor
    Relations Committee Chairman Michael Jordan, to discuss next steps.”

    Source:  https://tinyurl.com/y6fzq9sa

    Reply

    NBA postpones all 3 Thursday games

     

    From CNN's David Close


    Here's a statement from the NBA:

    “NBA playoff games for today will not be played as scheduled.
    We are hopeful to resume games either Friday or Saturday.
    There is a video conference call meeting scheduled later this afternoon
    between a group of NBA players and team governors representing the
    13 teams in Orlando, along with representatives from the National
    Basketball Players Association and the league office and NBA Labor
    Relations Committee Chairman Michael Jordan, to discuss next steps.”

    Source:  https://tinyurl.com/y6fzq9sa

     
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    Posted: Aug. 27, 2020 - 3:17 PM ET #31

    WNBA postpones
    all three Thursday games

     

    "“This is not a strike. This is not a boycott.
    This is affirmatively a day of reflection.
    A day of informed action and mobilization," Ogwumike said."

    The WNBA also released a statement saying,
    “As the WNBA players continue discussions and reflection on recent events,
    the WNBA announced that the three games scheduled for this evening
    (Chicago Sky vs. Indiana Fever; Dallas Wings vs. New York Liberty;
    Las Vegas Aces vs. Seattle Storm) have been postponed. Information
    regarding rescheduling of yesterday and today’s games will be provided
    when available.”

    Sourece: https://tinyurl.com/y5qvoxfb

    Reply

    WNBA postpones
    all three Thursday games

     

    "“This is not a strike. This is not a boycott.
    This is affirmatively a day of reflection.
    A day of informed action and mobilization," Ogwumike said."

    The WNBA also released a statement saying,
    “As the WNBA players continue discussions and reflection on recent events,
    the WNBA announced that the three games scheduled for this evening
    (Chicago Sky vs. Indiana Fever; Dallas Wings vs. New York Liberty;
    Las Vegas Aces vs. Seattle Storm) have been postponed. Information
    regarding rescheduling of yesterday and today’s games will be provided
    when available.”

    Sourece: https://tinyurl.com/y5qvoxfb

     
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    Posted: Aug. 27, 2020 - 3:19 PM ET #32

    What the athletes have done this week isn't good enough. Until it costs the owners, advertisers, arenas/stadiums & local economies money, I view this all as blowing smoke. Delaying a game or two is lame & has little if any impact. This issue needs to remain front and center each and every day until systematic changes are made. We can't have police who have accumulated numerous complaints in the past remain on the force until their personal ticking bomb goes BOOM! 

    If athletes want to make an impact & I know this is blasphemy, have the NFL threaten to delay the season until REAL changes are made across the country.

    That will get the necessary attention to this matter.

    Reply

    What the athletes have done this week isn't good enough. Until it costs the owners, advertisers, arenas/stadiums & local economies money, I view this all as blowing smoke. Delaying a game or two is lame & has little if any impact. This issue needs to remain front and center each and every day until systematic changes are made. We can't have police who have accumulated numerous complaints in the past remain on the force until their personal ticking bomb goes BOOM! 

    If athletes want to make an impact & I know this is blasphemy, have the NFL threaten to delay the season until REAL changes are made across the country.

    That will get the necessary attention to this matter.

     
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    Posted: Aug. 27, 2020 - 3:20 PM ET #33

    Multiple NFL teams cancel practice
    to discuss social injustice

     

    From CNN’s Dan Kamal

    Several NFL teams canceled practice Thursday to focus instead
    on conversations of social injustice in wake of the shooting of
    Jacob Blake by a police officer in Kenosha, Wisconsin.

    The Denver Broncos joined the Arizona Cardinals, Indianapolis Colts,
    the Washington football Team and New York Jets in forgoing practice
    to allow players to weigh in on what they and their respective teams
    can do to effect change.

    After a practice earlier this week, Packers head coach Matt LaFleur
    told the media, “It’s amazing to me that this is still happening.
    So, we wanted to get our guys’ perspective and try to float around
    some ideas on how we can make a difference and use our platform,
    because things have to change."

    Source: https://tinyurl.com/y5qvoxfb

    Reply

    Multiple NFL teams cancel practice
    to discuss social injustice

     

    From CNN’s Dan Kamal

    Several NFL teams canceled practice Thursday to focus instead
    on conversations of social injustice in wake of the shooting of
    Jacob Blake by a police officer in Kenosha, Wisconsin.

    The Denver Broncos joined the Arizona Cardinals, Indianapolis Colts,
    the Washington football Team and New York Jets in forgoing practice
    to allow players to weigh in on what they and their respective teams
    can do to effect change.

    After a practice earlier this week, Packers head coach Matt LaFleur
    told the media, “It’s amazing to me that this is still happening.
    So, we wanted to get our guys’ perspective and try to float around
    some ideas on how we can make a difference and use our platform,
    because things have to change."

    Source: https://tinyurl.com/y5qvoxfb

     
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    Posted: Aug. 27, 2020 - 3:24 PM ET #34

    Trump calls the NBA a "political organization"

    From CNN's Allie Malloy

    President Trump Thursday called the National Basketball Association
    a “political organization” and slammed the league for its “very bad”
    ratings when asked about Thursday’s historic protests against racial injustice.

    “But I don’t know too much about the protests but I know their
    ratings have been very bad. And that’s unfortunate.
    They’ve become like a political organization and that’s not a
    good thing. I don’t think that’s a good thing for sports or for the country,”
    Trump added.

    Source: https://tinyurl.com/y5hzkuvn

    Reply

    Trump calls the NBA a "political organization"

    From CNN's Allie Malloy

    President Trump Thursday called the National Basketball Association
    a “political organization” and slammed the league for its “very bad”
    ratings when asked about Thursday’s historic protests against racial injustice.

    “But I don’t know too much about the protests but I know their
    ratings have been very bad. And that’s unfortunate.
    They’ve become like a political organization and that’s not a
    good thing. I don’t think that’s a good thing for sports or for the country,”
    Trump added.

    Source: https://tinyurl.com/y5hzkuvn

     
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    Posted: Aug. 27, 2020 - 3:28 PM ET #35

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    What the athletes have done this week isn't good enough.
    Until it costs the owners, advertisers, arenas/stadiums & local
    economies money, I view this all as blowing smoke.
    Delaying a game or two is lame & has little if any impact.
    This issue needs to remain front and center each and every day
    until systematic changes are made. We can't have police who
    have accumulated numerous complaints in the past remain on
    the force until their personal ticking bomb goes BOOM!

    If athletes want to make an impact & I know this is blasphemy,
    have the NFL threaten to delay the season until REAL changes
    are made across the country.

    That will get the necessary attention to this matter.

     

    Good point.

    I am supportive of the effort, even if insignificant in and of itself,

    because it is creating a lot of discussion -- serious discussion.

    Maybe that will keep it front and center.

    But improvement WILL NOT come if trump loses but wins again.

    Reply

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    What the athletes have done this week isn't good enough.
    Until it costs the owners, advertisers, arenas/stadiums & local
    economies money, I view this all as blowing smoke.
    Delaying a game or two is lame & has little if any impact.
    This issue needs to remain front and center each and every day
    until systematic changes are made. We can't have police who
    have accumulated numerous complaints in the past remain on
    the force until their personal ticking bomb goes BOOM!

    If athletes want to make an impact & I know this is blasphemy,
    have the NFL threaten to delay the season until REAL changes
    are made across the country.

    That will get the necessary attention to this matter.

     

    Good point.

    I am supportive of the effort, even if insignificant in and of itself,

    because it is creating a lot of discussion -- serious discussion.

    Maybe that will keep it front and center.

    But improvement WILL NOT come if trump loses but wins again.

     
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    Posted: Aug. 27, 2020 - 3:34 PM ET #36

    “The social injustice, the police brutality, the antiquated laws,
    just to bring awareness to everybody that Black lives matter.
    We can’t stand for this any longer"
                                            -- Packers head coach Matt LaFleur

    Reply

    “The social injustice, the police brutality, the antiquated laws,
    just to bring awareness to everybody that Black lives matter.
    We can’t stand for this any longer"
                                            -- Packers head coach Matt LaFleur

     
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    Posted: Aug. 27, 2020 - 3:38 PM ET #37

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Updated 2:02 PM ET, Thu August 27, 2020   Since the death of George Floyd, an unarmed Black man who was killed in police custody in May, many athletes and sports leagues have been throwing their support behind the protest movement calling for change. The latest development came Wednesday when the NBA's Milwaukee Bucks decided to boycott their playoff game against the Orlando Magic. The Bucks were responding to the recent police shooting of Jacob Blake, which happened in Kenosha, Wisconsin, about 40 miles from Milwaukee. "The past four months have shed a light on the ongoing racial injustices facing our African American communities," the Bucks players said in a statement. "Citizens around the country have used their voices and platforms to speak out against these wrongdoings. "Over the last few days in our home state of Wisconsin, we've seen the horrendous video of Jacob Blake being shot in the back seven times by a police officer in Kenosha, and the additional shooting of protestors. Despite the overwhelming plea for change, there has been no action, so our focus today cannot be on basketball."

     

    NBA postpones Thursday's playoff games,
    hopes to resume Friday or Saturday

     

    USA TODAY

    The NBA decided to postpone Thursday's games after an emotional night
    and day filled with player meetings to figure out how to proceed.


    Also, it would have been difficult for the league to ask Boston and Toronto
    to play because they were the first teams to publicly talk about the idea
    of not playing in protest of the Blake shooting. It made sense to clear
    he schedule and find a better day to resume.

    Reply

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Updated 2:02 PM ET, Thu August 27, 2020   Since the death of George Floyd, an unarmed Black man who was killed in police custody in May, many athletes and sports leagues have been throwing their support behind the protest movement calling for change. The latest development came Wednesday when the NBA's Milwaukee Bucks decided to boycott their playoff game against the Orlando Magic. The Bucks were responding to the recent police shooting of Jacob Blake, which happened in Kenosha, Wisconsin, about 40 miles from Milwaukee. "The past four months have shed a light on the ongoing racial injustices facing our African American communities," the Bucks players said in a statement. "Citizens around the country have used their voices and platforms to speak out against these wrongdoings. "Over the last few days in our home state of Wisconsin, we've seen the horrendous video of Jacob Blake being shot in the back seven times by a police officer in Kenosha, and the additional shooting of protestors. Despite the overwhelming plea for change, there has been no action, so our focus today cannot be on basketball."

     

    NBA postpones Thursday's playoff games,
    hopes to resume Friday or Saturday

     

    USA TODAY

    The NBA decided to postpone Thursday's games after an emotional night
    and day filled with player meetings to figure out how to proceed.


    Also, it would have been difficult for the league to ask Boston and Toronto
    to play because they were the first teams to publicly talk about the idea
    of not playing in protest of the Blake shooting. It made sense to clear
    he schedule and find a better day to resume.

     
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    Posted: Aug. 27, 2020 - 3:51 PM ET #38

    " I want this systemic racism and
    social injustice to be defeated "

     

    DURHAM, N.C. (WTVD) -- Duke men's basketball coach
    Mike Krzyzewski spoke Thursday to Duke students and gave 
    his players a chance to do the same.

    "We need to have a display on campus where every student on campus
    is registered and will vote, and then you vote with your heart," Coach K said.


    "I'm not telling you who to vote for, but if we don't get the proper leadership
    at every level in our country, this is not going to go away. We can look at
    and see the police brutality, but what you don't see are the amount of
    educational opportunities that are deprived young black kids, health and
    welfare opportunities, economic opportunities. These things can only be
    changed with proper leadership and organization. And so the first step
    in that is for all of us to vote."

    "I want this systemic racism and social injustice to be defeated,"
    Coach K said.

    In June, Krzyzewski made an impassioned video for Duke University
    where he defended Black Lives Matter, saying it
    was a human rights  statement, not a political one.

    Reply

    " I want this systemic racism and
    social injustice to be defeated "

     

    DURHAM, N.C. (WTVD) -- Duke men's basketball coach
    Mike Krzyzewski spoke Thursday to Duke students and gave 
    his players a chance to do the same.

    "We need to have a display on campus where every student on campus
    is registered and will vote, and then you vote with your heart," Coach K said.


    "I'm not telling you who to vote for, but if we don't get the proper leadership
    at every level in our country, this is not going to go away. We can look at
    and see the police brutality, but what you don't see are the amount of
    educational opportunities that are deprived young black kids, health and
    welfare opportunities, economic opportunities. These things can only be
    changed with proper leadership and organization. And so the first step
    in that is for all of us to vote."

    "I want this systemic racism and social injustice to be defeated,"
    Coach K said.

    In June, Krzyzewski made an impassioned video for Duke University
    where he defended Black Lives Matter, saying it
    was a human rights  statement, not a political one.

     
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    Posted: Aug. 27, 2020 - 3:57 PM ET #39

    Nike says
    it supports athletes' boycotts

    By Cristina Alesci, CNN
    Thu August 27, 2020

    New York (CNN Business)
    "Nike stands in support of NBA and WNBA players and athletes across the
    sports community in their response to the senseless shooting of Jacob Blake.
    We remain committed to addressing the issue of systemic racism
    experienced by the Black community," the company said in a statement.

    Nike (NKE) was one of many companies that voiced support for the
    Black Lives Matter protests earlier this summer.

    "Don't pretend there's NOT a problem in America.
    Don't turn your back on racism.
    Don't accept innocent lives being taken from us.
    Don't make any more excuses.
    Don't think this doesn't affect you.
    Don't sit back and be silent."

    Reply

    Nike says
    it supports athletes' boycotts

    By Cristina Alesci, CNN
    Thu August 27, 2020

    New York (CNN Business)
    "Nike stands in support of NBA and WNBA players and athletes across the
    sports community in their response to the senseless shooting of Jacob Blake.
    We remain committed to addressing the issue of systemic racism
    experienced by the Black community," the company said in a statement.

    Nike (NKE) was one of many companies that voiced support for the
    Black Lives Matter protests earlier this summer.

    "Don't pretend there's NOT a problem in America.
    Don't turn your back on racism.
    Don't accept innocent lives being taken from us.
    Don't make any more excuses.
    Don't think this doesn't affect you.
    Don't sit back and be silent."

     
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    Posted: Aug. 27, 2020 - 4:04 PM ET #40

    'People still don't care':


    An emotional Dominic Smith
    discusses fight against racism

     

    Justin Toscano MLB Writer

    NEW YORK — An emotional Dominic Smith paused for around 30 seconds
    as he pondered the most difficult part about the last two months, which
    have included George Floyd’s death, Jacob Blake’s shooting and an
    ongoing fight against racism in America.

    “I think the most difficult part is to see people still don’t care,” Smith,
    who is Black, said through tears.
    “For this to just continuously happen, it just shows
    the hate in people’s hearts. That just sucks, you know?
    Being a Black man in America, it’s not easy.”

    Source: https://tinyurl.com/y5a98z4q

    Reply

    'People still don't care':


    An emotional Dominic Smith
    discusses fight against racism

     

    Justin Toscano MLB Writer

    NEW YORK — An emotional Dominic Smith paused for around 30 seconds
    as he pondered the most difficult part about the last two months, which
    have included George Floyd’s death, Jacob Blake’s shooting and an
    ongoing fight against racism in America.

    “I think the most difficult part is to see people still don’t care,” Smith,
    who is Black, said through tears.
    “For this to just continuously happen, it just shows
    the hate in people’s hearts. That just sucks, you know?
    Being a Black man in America, it’s not easy.”

    Source: https://tinyurl.com/y5a98z4q

     
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    Wow...


                      The reality of Black pain
             is breaking American sports' status quo

     

    By Howard Bryant, ESPN Senior Writer

    " The United States has come apart, its reckoning regarding the police's
    disproportionate use of violence toward its Black citizens sharply pronounced
    in sports because of its influential Black population and the industry's reaction
    to their Black advocacy, emblematic by Kaepernick's banishment but also by
    the hostile climate surrounding them.

    Underneath it all -
    - the passive-aggressive questions about what walking out will prove,
    how people will never ever watch the NBA again -- is threat,
    questions less in search of illumination but designed to diminish the players,
    to question their authenticity and disavow them of any thought of self-determination.
    There is no citizenship beneath their tank tops, and even less humanity.
    You're here to entertain us.
    No, you're literally here to entertain us. That's your job.

    Underneath that layer of threat is more threat, which is to say you better
    be grateful there are people willing to watch, because if we don't watch,
    you're back to being nothing.
    The message is, of course, to remind these Black players of how precarious
    their positions are, to let them know in case they forgot how thin the margin
    is, that one misstep, injury or arrest, backtalk or protest can put you back
    there with the rest. Never forget who you owe. "

    ESPN Link: https://tinyurl.com/y6b6yc75

    Reply


    Wow...


                      The reality of Black pain
             is breaking American sports' status quo

     

    By Howard Bryant, ESPN Senior Writer

    " The United States has come apart, its reckoning regarding the police's
    disproportionate use of violence toward its Black citizens sharply pronounced
    in sports because of its influential Black population and the industry's reaction
    to their Black advocacy, emblematic by Kaepernick's banishment but also by
    the hostile climate surrounding them.

    Underneath it all -
    - the passive-aggressive questions about what walking out will prove,
    how people will never ever watch the NBA again -- is threat,
    questions less in search of illumination but designed to diminish the players,
    to question their authenticity and disavow them of any thought of self-determination.
    There is no citizenship beneath their tank tops, and even less humanity.
    You're here to entertain us.
    No, you're literally here to entertain us. That's your job.

    Underneath that layer of threat is more threat, which is to say you better
    be grateful there are people willing to watch, because if we don't watch,
    you're back to being nothing.
    The message is, of course, to remind these Black players of how precarious
    their positions are, to let them know in case they forgot how thin the margin
    is, that one misstep, injury or arrest, backtalk or protest can put you back
    there with the rest. Never forget who you owe. "

    ESPN Link: https://tinyurl.com/y6b6yc75

     
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    Posted: Aug. 27, 2020 - 4:23 PM ET #42

    Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: All those officers there who allowed the man to get up off the grass and walk to his car, are culpable. All they had to do was holster their weapons and tackle the guy.  How hard is that? There were three of them!! Three professionally trained officers incapable of tackling and pinning one unarmed man to the ground???  Pathetic lack of judgement. And now a man is paralyzed and his kids traumatized... inexcusable

     

    You point out an obvious problem with policing today, lack of proper training
    and technique. Clearly, these officers were over their head and not well-trained
    on how to tackle, subdue, or arrest an erratic, violent suspect. I have seen
    reports that they attempted to use a taser on him, which did not work because
    obviously they did not know how to use the taser properly. Tasers are extremely
    effective when used properly. Seems like a lack of training and professionalism
    appears to be a common theme in these cases. People claiming that this
    suspect was a criminal.. well duh... that is kind of the type of person police
    officers should be trained to deal with.

    Excellent points!   peace_5

    Reply

    Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: All those officers there who allowed the man to get up off the grass and walk to his car, are culpable. All they had to do was holster their weapons and tackle the guy.  How hard is that? There were three of them!! Three professionally trained officers incapable of tackling and pinning one unarmed man to the ground???  Pathetic lack of judgement. And now a man is paralyzed and his kids traumatized... inexcusable

     

    You point out an obvious problem with policing today, lack of proper training
    and technique. Clearly, these officers were over their head and not well-trained
    on how to tackle, subdue, or arrest an erratic, violent suspect. I have seen
    reports that they attempted to use a taser on him, which did not work because
    obviously they did not know how to use the taser properly. Tasers are extremely
    effective when used properly. Seems like a lack of training and professionalism
    appears to be a common theme in these cases. People claiming that this
    suspect was a criminal.. well duh... that is kind of the type of person police
    officers should be trained to deal with.

    Excellent points!   peace_5

     
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    Posted: Aug. 27, 2020 - 4:29 PM ET #43

    Opinion: Milwaukee Bucks' decision
    not to play NBA playoff game
    will alter the course of history

    Nancy Armour, USA TODAY

    Systemic racism, the poisonous attitudes and mindset that allow
    a police officer  to treat a Black person as if they have no worth,
    no humanity,  is woven tight into the fabric of this country.
    The very foundations of American society – education, housing,
    banking, policing, our criminal justice system, you name it –
    are rooted in racism.

    And unlike when Colin Kaepernick first took a knee to protest
    police brutality, four years ago to the day Wednesday,
    there will be no distorting this message.

    Within an hour, the NBA was forced to postpone the day’s remaining games.
    Not long after that, the Milwaukee Brewers announced that they would not
    play, either, and at least two other Major League Baseball games were called off.

    The WNBA, long a leader in social justice issues, stood in solidarity with
    the NBA and also refused to play.

    “We’re fed up. Enough is enough,” Alex Lasry, senior vice president 
    of the Bucks, said on Twitter. “Change needs to happen.”

    Source: https://tinyurl.com/y4rsoevg

    Reply

    Opinion: Milwaukee Bucks' decision
    not to play NBA playoff game
    will alter the course of history

    Nancy Armour, USA TODAY

    Systemic racism, the poisonous attitudes and mindset that allow
    a police officer  to treat a Black person as if they have no worth,
    no humanity,  is woven tight into the fabric of this country.
    The very foundations of American society – education, housing,
    banking, policing, our criminal justice system, you name it –
    are rooted in racism.

    And unlike when Colin Kaepernick first took a knee to protest
    police brutality, four years ago to the day Wednesday,
    there will be no distorting this message.

    Within an hour, the NBA was forced to postpone the day’s remaining games.
    Not long after that, the Milwaukee Brewers announced that they would not
    play, either, and at least two other Major League Baseball games were called off.

    The WNBA, long a leader in social justice issues, stood in solidarity with
    the NBA and also refused to play.

    “We’re fed up. Enough is enough,” Alex Lasry, senior vice president 
    of the Bucks, said on Twitter. “Change needs to happen.”

    Source: https://tinyurl.com/y4rsoevg

     
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    Posted: Aug. 27, 2020 - 4:50 PM ET #44

    MLB protests continue:
    A's-Rangers, Phillies-Nationals,
    Twins-Tigers games won't be played

    Thursday, USA TODAY

    Major League Baseball players extended their strike for social justice
    to a second day, as games between the Oakland Athletics and
    Texas Rangers, Philadelphia Phillies and Washington Nationals and
    Minnesota Twins and Detroit Tigers will not be played as scheduled Thursday.

    Additionally, according to ESPN, the Boston Red Sox will be meeting to
    determine whether to play their game against the Toronto Blue Jays in
    Buffalo.
    The two called-off games brings to 10 the number of MLB teams
    joining in solidarity with the NBA by sitting out in protest of police brutality
    and systemic racism in the wake of the Kenosha (Wisc.) police shooting
    of Jacob Blake in the back.

    In announcing Thursday's postponement, the A's
    included a message from their players that concluded:
    " We will not take the field tonight, to help raise awareness for
    these social issues, not just tonight, but for our collective future.
    This is the first step in our relentless pursuit for meaningful change."

    Source: https://tinyurl.com/y4w5yg5h

    Reply

    MLB protests continue:
    A's-Rangers, Phillies-Nationals,
    Twins-Tigers games won't be played

    Thursday, USA TODAY

    Major League Baseball players extended their strike for social justice
    to a second day, as games between the Oakland Athletics and
    Texas Rangers, Philadelphia Phillies and Washington Nationals and
    Minnesota Twins and Detroit Tigers will not be played as scheduled Thursday.

    Additionally, according to ESPN, the Boston Red Sox will be meeting to
    determine whether to play their game against the Toronto Blue Jays in
    Buffalo.
    The two called-off games brings to 10 the number of MLB teams
    joining in solidarity with the NBA by sitting out in protest of police brutality
    and systemic racism in the wake of the Kenosha (Wisc.) police shooting
    of Jacob Blake in the back.

    In announcing Thursday's postponement, the A's
    included a message from their players that concluded:
    " We will not take the field tonight, to help raise awareness for
    these social issues, not just tonight, but for our collective future.
    This is the first step in our relentless pursuit for meaningful change."

    Source: https://tinyurl.com/y4w5yg5h

     
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    Posted: Aug. 27, 2020 - 5:18 PM ET #45

    Opinion:

    NBA players using their power and influence
    to try and create meaningful change

    Dan Wolken, USA TODAY

    As a people, as a country, the idea that American citizens with money
    and clout would use their influence to bend the system to their interests
    is not new to us. We see it every day. We accept it without much
    complaint. We celebrate those who do it as entrepreneurs.
    We even vote them into office.

    What NBA and WNBA players, followed by some in Major League Baseball,
    soccer and tennis did on Wednesday night in demanding action on
    racial justice issues by boycotting games, is really no different.

    Whatever level of power and privilege they’ve attained
    through their own skill in sports,
    they have just as much right to wield it  as does
    the social media magnate lobbying not to be regulated
    or   the real estate tycoon hunting for tax breaks.

    Reply

    Opinion:

    NBA players using their power and influence
    to try and create meaningful change

    Dan Wolken, USA TODAY

    As a people, as a country, the idea that American citizens with money
    and clout would use their influence to bend the system to their interests
    is not new to us. We see it every day. We accept it without much
    complaint. We celebrate those who do it as entrepreneurs.
    We even vote them into office.

    What NBA and WNBA players, followed by some in Major League Baseball,
    soccer and tennis did on Wednesday night in demanding action on
    racial justice issues by boycotting games, is really no different.

    Whatever level of power and privilege they’ve attained
    through their own skill in sports,
    they have just as much right to wield it  as does
    the social media magnate lobbying not to be regulated
    or   the real estate tycoon hunting for tax breaks.

     
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    Posted: Aug. 27, 2020 - 5:27 PM ET #46

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    MLB protests continue: A's-Rangers, Phillies-Nationals, Twins-Tigers games won't be played Thursday, USA TODAY Major League Baseball players extended their strike for social justice to a second day, as games between the Oakland Athletics and Texas Rangers, Philadelphia Phillies and Washington Nationals and Minnesota Twins and Detroit Tigers will not be played as scheduled Thursday. Additionally, according to ESPN, the Boston Red Sox will be meeting to determine whether to play their game against the Toronto Blue Jays in Buffalo.The two called-off games brings to 10 the number of MLB teams joining in solidarity with the NBA by sitting out in protest of police brutality and systemic racism in the wake of the Kenosha (Wisc.) police shooting of Jacob Blake in the back. In announcing Thursday's postponement, the A's included a message from their players that concluded: " We will not take the field tonight, to help raise awareness forthese social issues, not just tonight, but for our collective future. This is the first step in our relentless pursuit for meaningful change." Source: https://tinyurl.com/y4w5yg5h

    NFL


    Colts, Jets, Washington among NFL teams
    to cancel practice, focus on social justice issues

    USA TODAY

    Several NFL teams canceled practice Thursday to focus on social justice issues
    and protest the shooting of Jacob Blake, following decisions by the Milwaukee
    Bucks and other pro sports teams to not play the previous day.
    "Friday we can return to football.
    But (Thursday) will be about reflection instead,"
    Washington Football team coach Ron Rivera said.


    "In place of our practice at FedExField, the players, coaches and football staff
    will meet as a football family and we will continue our open dialogue on the
    issues of racism and social injustice in our country."

    The Arizona Cardinals, Chicago Bears, Denver Broncos, Los Angeles Chargers
    and Tennessee Titans also decided Thursday not to practice.

     

    Reply

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    MLB protests continue: A's-Rangers, Phillies-Nationals, Twins-Tigers games won't be played Thursday, USA TODAY Major League Baseball players extended their strike for social justice to a second day, as games between the Oakland Athletics and Texas Rangers, Philadelphia Phillies and Washington Nationals and Minnesota Twins and Detroit Tigers will not be played as scheduled Thursday. Additionally, according to ESPN, the Boston Red Sox will be meeting to determine whether to play their game against the Toronto Blue Jays in Buffalo.The two called-off games brings to 10 the number of MLB teams joining in solidarity with the NBA by sitting out in protest of police brutality and systemic racism in the wake of the Kenosha (Wisc.) police shooting of Jacob Blake in the back. In announcing Thursday's postponement, the A's included a message from their players that concluded: " We will not take the field tonight, to help raise awareness forthese social issues, not just tonight, but for our collective future. This is the first step in our relentless pursuit for meaningful change." Source: https://tinyurl.com/y4w5yg5h

    NFL


    Colts, Jets, Washington among NFL teams
    to cancel practice, focus on social justice issues

    USA TODAY

    Several NFL teams canceled practice Thursday to focus on social justice issues
    and protest the shooting of Jacob Blake, following decisions by the Milwaukee
    Bucks and other pro sports teams to not play the previous day.
    "Friday we can return to football.
    But (Thursday) will be about reflection instead,"
    Washington Football team coach Ron Rivera said.


    "In place of our practice at FedExField, the players, coaches and football staff
    will meet as a football family and we will continue our open dialogue on the
    issues of racism and social injustice in our country."

    The Arizona Cardinals, Chicago Bears, Denver Broncos, Los Angeles Chargers
    and Tennessee Titans also decided Thursday not to practice.

     

     
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    Posted: Aug. 27, 2020 - 5:32 PM ET #47

    Opinion:
    Want an NFL season?
    Then NFL owners need to start
    speaking up and using influence

    Nancy Armour, USA TODA
    NFL players have had their say, forcing practices across the league to be canceled
    as they work through their anger and sorrow at a society that continues to kill
    Black men and women. Coaches have been eloquent and thoughtful, both in
    supporting their players and issuing their own calls for action.

    The voice missing in all of this? That of the NFL’s owners.

    Not a surprise, really.
    This is a group that, with very few exceptions, has met previous protests for
    social justice with indifference or outright hostility. A group that is mostly male
    and almost exclusively white, insulating them from discrimination and prejudice.
    A group that includes donors and friends of President Donald Trump,
    who has yet to pass on an opportunity to spew hate and bigotry.

    And yet, if these owners want an NFL season to happen without interruption,
    they’re going to have to speak up — publicly,
    and to the national, state and local leaders with the power to
    make the changes needed to root out systemic racism.


    Reply

    Opinion:
    Want an NFL season?
    Then NFL owners need to start
    speaking up and using influence

    Nancy Armour, USA TODA
    NFL players have had their say, forcing practices across the league to be canceled
    as they work through their anger and sorrow at a society that continues to kill
    Black men and women. Coaches have been eloquent and thoughtful, both in
    supporting their players and issuing their own calls for action.

    The voice missing in all of this? That of the NFL’s owners.

    Not a surprise, really.
    This is a group that, with very few exceptions, has met previous protests for
    social justice with indifference or outright hostility. A group that is mostly male
    and almost exclusively white, insulating them from discrimination and prejudice.
    A group that includes donors and friends of President Donald Trump,
    who has yet to pass on an opportunity to spew hate and bigotry.

    And yet, if these owners want an NFL season to happen without interruption,
    they’re going to have to speak up — publicly,
    and to the national, state and local leaders with the power to
    make the changes needed to root out systemic racism.


     
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    Posted: Aug. 27, 2020 - 5:51 PM ET #48

    This has been brewing since the strikes in baseball and football. 

    The owners Association and players Association have vied differently in views of whose game is it.

    We can watch scabs play and then watch players like Youkillis get hit nearly every game for crossing the picket line. 

    It the same problem now compunded with political implications. Fans base is desolate no stadium seats hard to find an audience at home that has any enthusiasm for the game . 

    Even gamblers are hard pressed to spend money dealing with the fact any given night a player can be pulled due to covid concerns. 

    Owners are nearing a certain loss in revenue player contracts allow for illness or personal leave time and this year is going to be difficult for evwryone to rebound and begin wagering activity.... 

    All that said I find the owners association is about to understand a overwhelming deficit budget some of the more licritive franchises without huge luxury salaried players may indeed ride tgis storm out. But like rhe aba revenue salary concerns it will certainly be interesting to see how many huge players with 7 and 8 figure contracts go to free agency....

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    This has been brewing since the strikes in baseball and football. 

    The owners Association and players Association have vied differently in views of whose game is it.

    We can watch scabs play and then watch players like Youkillis get hit nearly every game for crossing the picket line. 

    It the same problem now compunded with political implications. Fans base is desolate no stadium seats hard to find an audience at home that has any enthusiasm for the game . 

    Even gamblers are hard pressed to spend money dealing with the fact any given night a player can be pulled due to covid concerns. 

    Owners are nearing a certain loss in revenue player contracts allow for illness or personal leave time and this year is going to be difficult for evwryone to rebound and begin wagering activity.... 

    All that said I find the owners association is about to understand a overwhelming deficit budget some of the more licritive franchises without huge luxury salaried players may indeed ride tgis storm out. But like rhe aba revenue salary concerns it will certainly be interesting to see how many huge players with 7 and 8 figure contracts go to free agency....

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    This has been brewing since the strikes in baseball and football.  The owners Association and players Association have vied differently in views of whose game is it. We can watch scabs play and then watch players like Youkillis get hit nearly every game for crossing the picket line.  It the same problem now compunded with political implications. Fans base is desolate no stadium seats hard to find an audience at home that has any enthusiasm for the game .  Even gamblers are hard pressed to spend money dealing with the fact any given night a player can be pulled due to covid concerns.  Owners are nearing a certain loss in revenue player contracts allow for illness or personal leave time and this year is going to be difficult for evwryone to rebound and begin wagering activity....  All that said I find the owners association is about to understand a overwhelming deficit budget some of the more licritive franchises without huge luxury salaried players may indeed ride tgis storm out. But like rhe aba revenue salary concerns it will certainly be interesting to see how many huge players with 7 and 8 figure contracts go to free agency....

    Excellent points!

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    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    This has been brewing since the strikes in baseball and football.  The owners Association and players Association have vied differently in views of whose game is it. We can watch scabs play and then watch players like Youkillis get hit nearly every game for crossing the picket line.  It the same problem now compunded with political implications. Fans base is desolate no stadium seats hard to find an audience at home that has any enthusiasm for the game .  Even gamblers are hard pressed to spend money dealing with the fact any given night a player can be pulled due to covid concerns.  Owners are nearing a certain loss in revenue player contracts allow for illness or personal leave time and this year is going to be difficult for evwryone to rebound and begin wagering activity....  All that said I find the owners association is about to understand a overwhelming deficit budget some of the more licritive franchises without huge luxury salaried players may indeed ride tgis storm out. But like rhe aba revenue salary concerns it will certainly be interesting to see how many huge players with 7 and 8 figure contracts go to free agency....

    Excellent points!

     
     
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    Posted: Aug. 27, 2020 - 6:40 PM ET #50

    WOW!

    Just now live on CNN 6:35pm ET

    CNN's Bob Costas gave a deeply moving reply to Wolf Blitzer.

    Worth a watch when this comes out in video clip later...

     

    ...unless one is a racist.....then DON'T watch it...

    Reply

    WOW!

    Just now live on CNN 6:35pm ET

    CNN's Bob Costas gave a deeply moving reply to Wolf Blitzer.

    Worth a watch when this comes out in video clip later...

     

    ...unless one is a racist.....then DON'T watch it...

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