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    Crusher13
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    Posted: Nov. 9, 2017 - 3:07 PM ET #26

    Quote Originally Posted by sundance:

    The market value would not be up 5T if Hillary were elected.

    BINGO ......


    In REALITY...where would this "World" be if HRC had been elected???  


    Seriously ALL, contemplate that.......



    Donna ain't going' Public without a reason.....


    R.I.P. Clintons......
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    Quote Originally Posted by sundance:

    The market value would not be up 5T if Hillary were elected.

    BINGO ......


    In REALITY...where would this "World" be if HRC had been elected???  


    Seriously ALL, contemplate that.......



    Donna ain't going' Public without a reason.....


    R.I.P. Clintons......
     
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    Posted: Nov. 9, 2017 - 3:31 PM ET #27

    Quote Originally Posted by sundance:

    The market value would not be up 5T if Hillary were elected.

    I guess you still do not comprehend basic sentence structure.

    The market is up 5T not because of anything Trump/Senate has done at all....the market moves years ahead in anticipation, not what is in the present.

    The only time the market moves in the present is when there are shocks to the system...something unexpected and enormous hits, then the market will move based on present information.

    The fact that the market is up like this is actually quite pathetic...the market is not a measure of the economy, it is not the measure of the lower and middle class..the market is up for much of what is wrong with this country.

    Long live serving the elite!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sundance:

    The market value would not be up 5T if Hillary were elected.

    I guess you still do not comprehend basic sentence structure.

    The market is up 5T not because of anything Trump/Senate has done at all....the market moves years ahead in anticipation, not what is in the present.

    The only time the market moves in the present is when there are shocks to the system...something unexpected and enormous hits, then the market will move based on present information.

    The fact that the market is up like this is actually quite pathetic...the market is not a measure of the economy, it is not the measure of the lower and middle class..the market is up for much of what is wrong with this country.

    Long live serving the elite!

     
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    Posted: Nov. 9, 2017 - 3:40 PM ET #28

    ^^^^^^^^^^^

    Prophetically, reminds me of ole" Lou Saban's" half a loaf comment.... really, is the glass half "full" or "empty"....



    I, sincerely, HOPE, either way...it's up to my own "choices" and more importantly, my actions,as to where, how, what, and WHY I live the life I choose......



    Carry on...BTW...God Bless America and the POTUS 
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    ^^^^^^^^^^^

    Prophetically, reminds me of ole" Lou Saban's" half a loaf comment.... really, is the glass half "full" or "empty"....



    I, sincerely, HOPE, either way...it's up to my own "choices" and more importantly, my actions,as to where, how, what, and WHY I live the life I choose......



    Carry on...BTW...God Bless America and the POTUS 
     
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    Posted: Nov. 9, 2017 - 3:55 PM ET #29

    Here comes "swamp's" counter punch. Some of GOP Sens. super fast to react to Washington Post's breaking story, by saying Roy Moore should step aside if the story is true. Roy Moore has full support of Steve Bannon as the counter punch against GOP's own nominee Luther Strange in Alabama Senate Primary.   

    Woman says Roy Moore initiated sexual encounter when she was 14, he was 32-- WAPO
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    Here comes "swamp's" counter punch. Some of GOP Sens. super fast to react to Washington Post's breaking story, by saying Roy Moore should step aside if the story is true. Roy Moore has full support of Steve Bannon as the counter punch against GOP's own nominee Luther Strange in Alabama Senate Primary.   

    Woman says Roy Moore initiated sexual encounter when she was 14, he was 32-- WAPO
     
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    Posted: Nov. 9, 2017 - 3:59 PM ET #30

    Mitch McConnell: Roy Moore should drop Senate bid if sex allegations with teens are true

    https://www.cnbc.com/2017/11/09/mcconnell-roy-moore-should-drop-senate-bid-if-sex-allegations-are-true.html




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    Mitch McConnell: Roy Moore should drop Senate bid if sex allegations with teens are true

    https://www.cnbc.com/2017/11/09/mcconnell-roy-moore-should-drop-senate-bid-if-sex-allegations-are-true.html




     
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    Posted: Nov. 9, 2017 - 4:13 PM ET #31

    Quote Originally Posted by Crusher13:

    ^^^^^^^^^^^

    Prophetically, reminds me of ole" Lou Saban's" half a loaf comment.... really, is the glass half "full" or "empty"....



    I, sincerely, HOPE, either way...it's up to my own "choices" and more importantly, my actions,as to where, how, what, and WHY I live the life I choose......



    Carry on...BTW...God Bless America and the POTUS 

    The glass has no water in it yet.

    The market looks out projecting the future, they are anticipating things....right or wrong. This isnt about being optimistic it is about the analysis of what moves the stock market vs the general economy.

    The reasons the market are up actually are quite sad...there is no yield out there and the elite are expecting some freebies. No other reason at all. Measures of the economy take longer to unwind, Trump has nothing to attribute any moves in the economy or market right now.

    I am happy to bash Trump all day, he is a horrible person...but my comments are not about him, rather the way the economy and market function. It has been said many times in this exact manner over the years. When you clowns tried to bash Obama for the market dropping, the same reasoning was laid out, and partisan goofs will ignore concrete info if it gives them reason to point fingers or celebrate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crusher13:

    ^^^^^^^^^^^

    Prophetically, reminds me of ole" Lou Saban's" half a loaf comment.... really, is the glass half "full" or "empty"....



    I, sincerely, HOPE, either way...it's up to my own "choices" and more importantly, my actions,as to where, how, what, and WHY I live the life I choose......



    Carry on...BTW...God Bless America and the POTUS 

    The glass has no water in it yet.

    The market looks out projecting the future, they are anticipating things....right or wrong. This isnt about being optimistic it is about the analysis of what moves the stock market vs the general economy.

    The reasons the market are up actually are quite sad...there is no yield out there and the elite are expecting some freebies. No other reason at all. Measures of the economy take longer to unwind, Trump has nothing to attribute any moves in the economy or market right now.

    I am happy to bash Trump all day, he is a horrible person...but my comments are not about him, rather the way the economy and market function. It has been said many times in this exact manner over the years. When you clowns tried to bash Obama for the market dropping, the same reasoning was laid out, and partisan goofs will ignore concrete info if it gives them reason to point fingers or celebrate.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 9, 2017 - 4:36 PM ET #32

    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    Trump has nothing to attribute any moves in the economy or market right now.

    I am happy to bash Trump all day, he is a horrible person...but my comments are not about him, rather the way the economy and market function. It has been said many times in this exact manner over the years. When you clowns tried to bash Obama for the market dropping, the same reasoning was laid out, and partisan goofs will ignore concrete info if it gives them reason to point fingers or celebrate.


    You don't get it......IT HAS EVERYTHING TO DO WITH DJT....



    He's from the PRIVATE (crony...) sector... hell, BOH couldn't run a candy store..all he could be is a pot smoking "community organizer"....ala ACORN...remember that corrupt offshoot.....



    Where would the market be with HRC I conveniently inquired????


    Where?? Please educate us stupid sheep where "any if at all " optimism in the market if HRC was POTUS??


    Are you speculating it would be the same??


    Would there have been MASSIVE deregulation??  What specific HRC policies would lead our ECONOMY to the point it is now...

    Please enlighten us all......


    Oh wait..this is the trajectory BOH left us on...


    Ironically, I TOTALLY AGREE that Market OPTIMISM is extremely important BUT I want you to clarify to ALL of COVERS why HRC as POTUS would lead us to anywhere near this FINANCIAL POSITIVE PRECIPICE..????


    Oh wait,,CORRUPT Hillary is STARTING to be dismembered by the likes of Donna Brazille, whom I actually give SOME credence to....

    Can't wait for your response????

    Is the USA better off today than ONE year ago..???



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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    Trump has nothing to attribute any moves in the economy or market right now.

    I am happy to bash Trump all day, he is a horrible person...but my comments are not about him, rather the way the economy and market function. It has been said many times in this exact manner over the years. When you clowns tried to bash Obama for the market dropping, the same reasoning was laid out, and partisan goofs will ignore concrete info if it gives them reason to point fingers or celebrate.


    You don't get it......IT HAS EVERYTHING TO DO WITH DJT....



    He's from the PRIVATE (crony...) sector... hell, BOH couldn't run a candy store..all he could be is a pot smoking "community organizer"....ala ACORN...remember that corrupt offshoot.....



    Where would the market be with HRC I conveniently inquired????


    Where?? Please educate us stupid sheep where "any if at all " optimism in the market if HRC was POTUS??


    Are you speculating it would be the same??


    Would there have been MASSIVE deregulation??  What specific HRC policies would lead our ECONOMY to the point it is now...

    Please enlighten us all......


    Oh wait..this is the trajectory BOH left us on...


    Ironically, I TOTALLY AGREE that Market OPTIMISM is extremely important BUT I want you to clarify to ALL of COVERS why HRC as POTUS would lead us to anywhere near this FINANCIAL POSITIVE PRECIPICE..????


    Oh wait,,CORRUPT Hillary is STARTING to be dismembered by the likes of Donna Brazille, whom I actually give SOME credence to....

    Can't wait for your response????

    Is the USA better off today than ONE year ago..???



     
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    Posted: Nov. 9, 2017 - 4:57 PM ET #33

    I'll take YOU a second STEP further.....

    I predict that if a SECOND SPECIAL CONSUL was appointed into all of HRC's tenure as SOS, URANIUM ONE FIASCO, and the so called Russian Dossier....the MARKET would FURTHER Skyrocket for the mere fact of PROSECUTING peeps who think they are ABOVE the LAW...including all the swamp rats CURRENTLY residing at the DOJ and FBI......


    And TRUST my future opines..don't think the POTUS and Gen Kelly have a master plan how to "COMBAT and DEFEAT" all these dark shadowy figures..including the McCabes, Rosenstein, Klapper, and the likes for their devious PAST sins..heck, we haven't even reached into BOH's closest comrades (ie Ben Rhodes, Holder, Loretta Lynch)....

    Michelle "My Bell" for Potus... 


    When the DEMS are exposed to what they actually ARE???



    DON'T worry..Coming to a very OPEN PUBLIC hearing once any new AG might be APPOINTED 



    REALLY, I can't wait for this SWAMP to be drained..as I'm sure MANY fellow Americans(left & right) surely wish....
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    I'll take YOU a second STEP further.....

    I predict that if a SECOND SPECIAL CONSUL was appointed into all of HRC's tenure as SOS, URANIUM ONE FIASCO, and the so called Russian Dossier....the MARKET would FURTHER Skyrocket for the mere fact of PROSECUTING peeps who think they are ABOVE the LAW...including all the swamp rats CURRENTLY residing at the DOJ and FBI......


    And TRUST my future opines..don't think the POTUS and Gen Kelly have a master plan how to "COMBAT and DEFEAT" all these dark shadowy figures..including the McCabes, Rosenstein, Klapper, and the likes for their devious PAST sins..heck, we haven't even reached into BOH's closest comrades (ie Ben Rhodes, Holder, Loretta Lynch)....

    Michelle "My Bell" for Potus... 


    When the DEMS are exposed to what they actually ARE???



    DON'T worry..Coming to a very OPEN PUBLIC hearing once any new AG might be APPOINTED 



    REALLY, I can't wait for this SWAMP to be drained..as I'm sure MANY fellow Americans(left & right) surely wish....
     
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    Posted: Nov. 9, 2017 - 5:25 PM ET #34

    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:

    Believe it or not, newly Virginia election results two days ago say a lot of things about Trump base is cracking. 

    Oh wait, Steve Bannon predicts Donald J Trump will win his 2020 re-election in a LANDSLIDE. So his staunch base must feel exceptionally exuberant, after all. 


    12 62 9

    12 - Number of Governorships lost during Obama years.
    62 - Democratic House of Rep losses during Obama years.
    9 - Democratic Senate seats lost during Obama Years

    Update to the other night - NOTHING GAINED OR CHANGED. Good luck with your "cracks" theory...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:

    Believe it or not, newly Virginia election results two days ago say a lot of things about Trump base is cracking. 

    Oh wait, Steve Bannon predicts Donald J Trump will win his 2020 re-election in a LANDSLIDE. So his staunch base must feel exceptionally exuberant, after all. 


    12 62 9

    12 - Number of Governorships lost during Obama years.
    62 - Democratic House of Rep losses during Obama years.
    9 - Democratic Senate seats lost during Obama Years

    Update to the other night - NOTHING GAINED OR CHANGED. Good luck with your "cracks" theory...
     
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    Posted: Nov. 9, 2017 - 5:48 PM ET #35

    11 seats in Senate 

    60 seats in house 

    14 governorships 

    900 state legislature seats 

    That's what was lost under Obama's leadership 


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    11 seats in Senate 

    60 seats in house 

    14 governorships 

    900 state legislature seats 

    That's what was lost under Obama's leadership 


     
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    Posted: Nov. 9, 2017 - 5:59 PM ET #36

    Crusher,

    You looooovvveeee to turn any discussion topic into a democrat bashing event...your post 33 makes no sense and is just you rambling about off topic garbage. I dont recall asking about special consul, dems not knowing themselves blah blah blah blah...is it so difficult to stay on topic for you?

    The topic was Trump not having any impact on the economy, COMMA, and the market pricing out future expectation right or wrong.

    Keep your head on topic and try very very hard to actually reply to content and not your normal HRC/Obama/Democrat throw-up routine.
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    Crusher,

    You looooovvveeee to turn any discussion topic into a democrat bashing event...your post 33 makes no sense and is just you rambling about off topic garbage. I dont recall asking about special consul, dems not knowing themselves blah blah blah blah...is it so difficult to stay on topic for you?

    The topic was Trump not having any impact on the economy, COMMA, and the market pricing out future expectation right or wrong.

    Keep your head on topic and try very very hard to actually reply to content and not your normal HRC/Obama/Democrat throw-up routine.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 9, 2017 - 11:30 PM ET #37

    Wall, I am just stating the very FAVORABLE bizness CLIMATE that DJT's election and most importantly, POLICY decisions that are having a very FAVORABLE and POSITIVE effect surrounding our ECONOMY and the world's for that matter.....

    US companies are making markets stronger by their SOLID earning reports and positive future outlook...for both small and LARGE companies....jobs are everywhere...You just have to be willing to work..Unemployment only 4.1 %....less people on food stamps...


    Facts are that the U.S. has a leader and the markets and  economy are responding to that leadership.. The lamestream media  NEVER reports how well the economy is improving..God forbid it might  BE because of our new leadership despite being a horse's azz..


    No different than having a Peyton Manning in the huddle opposed to a Tony Romo....who had the skins and who WON only one maybe two career playoff games.... DJT like Peyton, are having a MAJOR impact on the direction and results...BRONCOS sorely miss him 


    And yes...HRC/DEMS/BOH was truly a miserable throw up period for this great nation.....I know the TRUTH is tough to swallow but facts are facts...


    And when justice is swiftly investigated and served, hopefully an even more level playing field will be established where NO ONE is above the law....... Many many crimes and wrongdoings happened during the BOH administration..just way too many to regurgitate ....and rehash...makes me ill just thinking about it.... 




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    Wall, I am just stating the very FAVORABLE bizness CLIMATE that DJT's election and most importantly, POLICY decisions that are having a very FAVORABLE and POSITIVE effect surrounding our ECONOMY and the world's for that matter.....

    US companies are making markets stronger by their SOLID earning reports and positive future outlook...for both small and LARGE companies....jobs are everywhere...You just have to be willing to work..Unemployment only 4.1 %....less people on food stamps...


    Facts are that the U.S. has a leader and the markets and  economy are responding to that leadership.. The lamestream media  NEVER reports how well the economy is improving..God forbid it might  BE because of our new leadership despite being a horse's azz..


    No different than having a Peyton Manning in the huddle opposed to a Tony Romo....who had the skins and who WON only one maybe two career playoff games.... DJT like Peyton, are having a MAJOR impact on the direction and results...BRONCOS sorely miss him 


    And yes...HRC/DEMS/BOH was truly a miserable throw up period for this great nation.....I know the TRUTH is tough to swallow but facts are facts...


    And when justice is swiftly investigated and served, hopefully an even more level playing field will be established where NO ONE is above the law....... Many many crimes and wrongdoings happened during the BOH administration..just way too many to regurgitate ....and rehash...makes me ill just thinking about it.... 




     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Killer_B:


    12 62 9

    12 - Number of Governorships lost during Obama years.
    62 - Democratic House of Rep losses during Obama years.
    9 - Democratic Senate seats lost during Obama Years

    Update to the other night - NOTHING GAINED OR CHANGED. Good luck with your "cracks" theory...

    Yes, Dems lost their presidential bid and legislative seats around the nation in and prior to 2016. Perhaps, wave starts to turn against Trump, Bannon and GOP from now on. Remember, party alternation is the norm of this democracy, it's not if but when.  
     
    Virginia State election starts to crack from the suburb, 2018 midterms might be gaping hole or even flood gate opening. Nothing is for sure but certainly it's a possibility. Stay tuned.     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Killer_B:


    12 62 9

    12 - Number of Governorships lost during Obama years.
    62 - Democratic House of Rep losses during Obama years.
    9 - Democratic Senate seats lost during Obama Years

    Update to the other night - NOTHING GAINED OR CHANGED. Good luck with your "cracks" theory...

    Yes, Dems lost their presidential bid and legislative seats around the nation in and prior to 2016. Perhaps, wave starts to turn against Trump, Bannon and GOP from now on. Remember, party alternation is the norm of this democracy, it's not if but when.  
     
    Virginia State election starts to crack from the suburb, 2018 midterms might be gaping hole or even flood gate opening. Nothing is for sure but certainly it's a possibility. Stay tuned.     
     
     
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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2017 - 10:05 AM ET #39

    If Repubs don't accomplish anything and considering the stiffs of McCain, Flake & Corker it's definitely possible and lose significantly in 2018. 

     It's like Trump is trying to drag the Congress with him to prosperity for the people, but the swamp is happy the way things are. No growth and 70,000 U.S. factories shutdown...
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    If Repubs don't accomplish anything and considering the stiffs of McCain, Flake & Corker it's definitely possible and lose significantly in 2018. 

     It's like Trump is trying to drag the Congress with him to prosperity for the people, but the swamp is happy the way things are. No growth and 70,000 U.S. factories shutdown...
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