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    Mike Pence makes moves to campaign for President.

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    Posted: Apr. 4, 2022 - 6:33 PM ET #1

    He has scheduled speaking engagement in Iowa.

    Setting a national dialogue about the direction of the Grand Ole Party.

    The Freedom agenda he and his team has crafted 

    A clear set of ideals and visions he and fellow conservatives envision for a better America.

    It offers a clear choice that conservative value individuals can rally around. 

    A primary theme is to endorse and sponsor adoption emergency pregnancy shelters and foster care in lui of abortion. 

    Create non profit faith based education system funded by public money.

    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2022/apr/3/mike-pence-makes-strong-opening-bid-for-president-/

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    He has scheduled speaking engagement in Iowa.

    Setting a national dialogue about the direction of the Grand Ole Party.

    The Freedom agenda he and his team has crafted 

    A clear set of ideals and visions he and fellow conservatives envision for a better America.

    It offers a clear choice that conservative value individuals can rally around. 

    A primary theme is to endorse and sponsor adoption emergency pregnancy shelters and foster care in lui of abortion. 

    Create non profit faith based education system funded by public money.

    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2022/apr/3/mike-pence-makes-strong-opening-bid-for-president-/

     
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    Posted: Apr. 4, 2022 - 6:51 PM ET #2

     

    Pence is scheduled to headline the annual Story County Lincoln Highway Dinner on April 23 in Ames. Earlier that day, the former vice president will be in northwestern Iowa’s staunchly conservative 4th Congressional District. The region is home to committed Republican voters who typically play a critical role in determining the winner of the state’s presidential nominating caucuses, the first such contest on the GOP’s White House primary calendar.

    “We are excited to welcome [Pence] back to Northwest Iowa,” said Republican Rep. Randy Feenstra, who is emerging as a key caucus power broker. “As he likes to say: He’s a Christian, a conservative, and a Republican — in that order. Those values represent the fabric of the folks of the 4th District.”

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    Pence is scheduled to headline the annual Story County Lincoln Highway Dinner on April 23 in Ames. Earlier that day, the former vice president will be in northwestern Iowa’s staunchly conservative 4th Congressional District. The region is home to committed Republican voters who typically play a critical role in determining the winner of the state’s presidential nominating caucuses, the first such contest on the GOP’s White House primary calendar.

    “We are excited to welcome [Pence] back to Northwest Iowa,” said Republican Rep. Randy Feenstra, who is emerging as a key caucus power broker. “As he likes to say: He’s a Christian, a conservative, and a Republican — in that order. Those values represent the fabric of the folks of the 4th District.”

     
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    Posted: Apr. 7, 2022 - 8:49 PM ET #3

    Pence has three chances to win the nomination in 2024...slim, fat, and none...the white haired mouse will be dissed on the campaign trail. He is viewed as a back stabber and traitor.

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    Pence has three chances to win the nomination in 2024...slim, fat, and none...the white haired mouse will be dissed on the campaign trail. He is viewed as a back stabber and traitor.

     
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    Posted: Apr. 7, 2022 - 9:02 PM ET #4

    Mike is campaigning raising money and connecting with potential voters. He has an entire christian coalition to draw from. 

    He did his job . He is a Christian conservative and republican in that order. 

    Source his quote. 

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    Mike is campaigning raising money and connecting with potential voters. He has an entire christian coalition to draw from. 

    He did his job . He is a Christian conservative and republican in that order. 

    Source his quote. 

     
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    Posted: Apr. 7, 2022 - 11:58 PM ET #5

    Pence's political career is over...he just doesn't know it yet. He will have an epiphany in the primaries.

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    Pence's political career is over...he just doesn't know it yet. He will have an epiphany in the primaries.

     
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    Posted: Apr. 8, 2022 - 8:40 AM ET #6

    Quote Originally Posted by lancer89074:

    Pence's political career is over...he just doesn't know it yet. He will have an epiphany in the primaries.
    Ya if anybody should know that spineless republican traitor's won't vote for him,it should be the guy that the 1st time he shows he has a spine,they wanna kill him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lancer89074:

    Pence's political career is over...he just doesn't know it yet. He will have an epiphany in the primaries.
    Ya if anybody should know that spineless republican traitor's won't vote for him,it should be the guy that the 1st time he shows he has a spine,they wanna kill him.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by lancer89074:

    Pence has three chances to win the nomination in 2024...slim, fat, and none...the white haired mouse will be dissed on the campaign trail. He is viewed as a back stabber and traitor.

    ....but why is he viewed that way?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lancer89074:

    Pence has three chances to win the nomination in 2024...slim, fat, and none...the white haired mouse will be dissed on the campaign trail. He is viewed as a back stabber and traitor.

    ....but why is he viewed that way?

     
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    Posted: Apr. 8, 2022 - 10:54 AM ET #8

    For the folks I interact with Pence is not viewed as a traitor.

    He does have very little appeal at this point, IMO. 

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    For the folks I interact with Pence is not viewed as a traitor.

    He does have very little appeal at this point, IMO. 

     
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    Nobody wants to kill him...to ignore him is an even worse fate for a politician?
    Besides, what you and others want are lackluster, establishment cretans like Pence to win the Republican nomination because they can be easily beaten...you yourself have zero intention of voting for him.

    Trump and DeSantis is who you fear...because you know your political candidates lack the ability to win in 2024. The only democrat with character and spine is Tulsi Gabbard and the DNC and most of the party faithful despise her. 

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    Nobody wants to kill him...to ignore him is an even worse fate for a politician?
    Besides, what you and others want are lackluster, establishment cretans like Pence to win the Republican nomination because they can be easily beaten...you yourself have zero intention of voting for him.

    Trump and DeSantis is who you fear...because you know your political candidates lack the ability to win in 2024. The only democrat with character and spine is Tulsi Gabbard and the DNC and most of the party faithful despise her. 

     
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    Posted: Apr. 8, 2022 - 5:03 PM ET #10

    Ya the chanting "hang mike pence" was being done not because they wanted pence hung,but just because it had a nice ring to it while being chanted.You are right about me having zero intention of voting for him,but are wrong about wanting him to win the nomination because he could be easily beaten.If a Larry Hogan or even John Kasich would run and were to get the republican nomination,I don't think there is a single democrat who I would vote for, instead of them.

    I don't fear trump,I figure if he couldn't get enough people to vote for him in 2020,the traitor certainly ain't gonna get more people to vote for him after he tried to circumvent the 2020 election results,by attacking our own country.I have faith there are gonna be at least a few republicans who say attacking our own country,that goes over the line.

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    Ya the chanting "hang mike pence" was being done not because they wanted pence hung,but just because it had a nice ring to it while being chanted.You are right about me having zero intention of voting for him,but are wrong about wanting him to win the nomination because he could be easily beaten.If a Larry Hogan or even John Kasich would run and were to get the republican nomination,I don't think there is a single democrat who I would vote for, instead of them.

    I don't fear trump,I figure if he couldn't get enough people to vote for him in 2020,the traitor certainly ain't gonna get more people to vote for him after he tried to circumvent the 2020 election results,by attacking our own country.I have faith there are gonna be at least a few republicans who say attacking our own country,that goes over the line.

     
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    Posted: Apr. 8, 2022 - 5:06 PM ET #11

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    For the folks I interact with Pence is not viewed as a traitor. He does have very little appeal at this point, IMO.
    So your saying you and the folks you interact with, think he did the right thing by not trying to change who won the election?

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    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    For the folks I interact with Pence is not viewed as a traitor. He does have very little appeal at this point, IMO.
    So your saying you and the folks you interact with, think he did the right thing by not trying to change who won the election?

     
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    Posted: Apr. 8, 2022 - 5:28 PM ET #12

    Quote Originally Posted by lancer89074:

    @MrWhatsItToYa Nobody wants to kill him...to ignore him is an even worse fate for a politician? Besides, what you and others want are lackluster, establishment cretans like Pence to win the Republican nomination because they can be easily beaten...you yourself have zero intention of voting for him. Trump and DeSantis is who you fear...because you know your political candidates lack the ability to win in 2024. The only democrat with character and spine is Tulsi Gabbard and the DNC and most of the party faithful despise her.

    Awe if the Dems put up Killary and I vote for Pastor Mike again.  I also like Rev. Warnock makes me independent christian I reckon'

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    Quote Originally Posted by lancer89074:

    @MrWhatsItToYa Nobody wants to kill him...to ignore him is an even worse fate for a politician? Besides, what you and others want are lackluster, establishment cretans like Pence to win the Republican nomination because they can be easily beaten...you yourself have zero intention of voting for him. Trump and DeSantis is who you fear...because you know your political candidates lack the ability to win in 2024. The only democrat with character and spine is Tulsi Gabbard and the DNC and most of the party faithful despise her.

    Awe if the Dems put up Killary and I vote for Pastor Mike again.  I also like Rev. Warnock makes me independent christian I reckon'

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrWhatsItToYa:

    Ya the chanting "hang mike pence" was being done not because they wanted pence hung,but just because it had a nice ring to it while being chanted.You are right about me having zero intention of voting for him,but are wrong about wanting him to win the nomination because he could be easily beaten.If a Larry Hogan or even John Kasich would run and were to get the republican nomination,I don't think there is a single democrat who I would vote for, instead of them. I don't fear trump,I figure if he couldn't get enough people to vote for him in 2020,the traitor certainly ain't gonna get more people to vote for him after he tried to circumvent the 2020 election results,by attacking our own country.I have faith there are gonna be at least a few republicans who say attacking our own country,that goes over the line.

    They had a noose hung in scaffolding and chanted hang Mike pence

    cause they wanted tea and cookies meeting with the man. ? They were there as a lynch mob. Let's deal with the alternative scenario. Mike pence was hung and the ballot box destroyed. 

    Trump would of still blamed mob. He would of remained president as the specific task certified the ballot box by a vice president is expressed in the constitution. 

    Trump would of appointed a vice president as Nixon one that along with big lie that he was singing since he lost the election and states would of succumbed to a sitting president's pressure. 

    Trump would cheering Vladimir on during this sacking of Ukraine.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrWhatsItToYa:

    Ya the chanting "hang mike pence" was being done not because they wanted pence hung,but just because it had a nice ring to it while being chanted.You are right about me having zero intention of voting for him,but are wrong about wanting him to win the nomination because he could be easily beaten.If a Larry Hogan or even John Kasich would run and were to get the republican nomination,I don't think there is a single democrat who I would vote for, instead of them. I don't fear trump,I figure if he couldn't get enough people to vote for him in 2020,the traitor certainly ain't gonna get more people to vote for him after he tried to circumvent the 2020 election results,by attacking our own country.I have faith there are gonna be at least a few republicans who say attacking our own country,that goes over the line.

    They had a noose hung in scaffolding and chanted hang Mike pence

    cause they wanted tea and cookies meeting with the man. ? They were there as a lynch mob. Let's deal with the alternative scenario. Mike pence was hung and the ballot box destroyed. 

    Trump would of still blamed mob. He would of remained president as the specific task certified the ballot box by a vice president is expressed in the constitution. 

    Trump would of appointed a vice president as Nixon one that along with big lie that he was singing since he lost the election and states would of succumbed to a sitting president's pressure. 

    Trump would cheering Vladimir on during this sacking of Ukraine.....

     
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    Posted: Apr. 8, 2022 - 5:44 PM ET #14

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    A noose seen hanging from a gallows outside the U.S. Capitol during the Jan. 6 insurrection is in the custody of federal agents.

    As rioters bludgeoned, beat and berated police inside the Capitol and out, a gallows with a bright orange noose was erected as marauders screamed, “Hang Mike Pence.”

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    A noose seen hanging from a gallows outside the U.S. Capitol during the Jan. 6 insurrection is in the custody of federal agents.

    As rioters bludgeoned, beat and berated police inside the Capitol and out, a gallows with a bright orange noose was erected as marauders screamed, “Hang Mike Pence.”

     
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    Posted: Apr. 8, 2022 - 5:56 PM ET #15

    So there were folks who threatened the life of the vice president of the United States by threating to hang him. Built gallows.

    THAT'S A FEDERAL CRIME!!!!!

    FOR SURE THEY CAN TRACE WHO BOUGHT THE WOOD AND ROPE.

    SO I AM SURE THE JANUARY 6TH COMMITTEE AND THE FBI HAS FOUND AND PROSECUTED THOSE WHO THREATENED THE LIFE OF A SITTING VICE PRESIDENT!!!

     

    NOPE!!  an_light

    Pipe bomber????

    NOPE!!  an_light

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    So there were folks who threatened the life of the vice president of the United States by threating to hang him. Built gallows.

    THAT'S A FEDERAL CRIME!!!!!

    FOR SURE THEY CAN TRACE WHO BOUGHT THE WOOD AND ROPE.

    SO I AM SURE THE JANUARY 6TH COMMITTEE AND THE FBI HAS FOUND AND PROSECUTED THOSE WHO THREATENED THE LIFE OF A SITTING VICE PRESIDENT!!!

     

    NOPE!!  an_light

    Pipe bomber????

    NOPE!!  an_light

     
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    Posted: Apr. 8, 2022 - 6:19 PM ET #16

    Yes the chief suspect remains free in mar largo but the government is building a case. So 5 hours of phone records are missing wonder who the traitor called during the seige on our Capital.

    Possible he made calls to the insurrectionist led by his buddy Roger Stone.

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    Yes the chief suspect remains free in mar largo but the government is building a case. So 5 hours of phone records are missing wonder who the traitor called during the seige on our Capital.

    Possible he made calls to the insurrectionist led by his buddy Roger Stone.

     
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    Posted: Apr. 8, 2022 - 6:42 PM ET #17

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    So there were folks who threatened the life of the vice president of the United States by threating to hang him. Built gallows. THAT'S A FEDERAL CRIME!!!!! FOR SURE THEY CAN TRACE WHO BOUGHT THE WOOD AND ROPE. SO I AM SURE THE JANUARY 6TH COMMITTEE AND THE FBI HAS FOUND AND PROSECUTED THOSE WHO THREATENED THE LIFE OF A SITTING VICE PRESIDENT!!!   NOPE!!   Pipe bomber???? NOPE!!
    No comment to post 11?

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    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    So there were folks who threatened the life of the vice president of the United States by threating to hang him. Built gallows. THAT'S A FEDERAL CRIME!!!!! FOR SURE THEY CAN TRACE WHO BOUGHT THE WOOD AND ROPE. SO I AM SURE THE JANUARY 6TH COMMITTEE AND THE FBI HAS FOUND AND PROSECUTED THOSE WHO THREATENED THE LIFE OF A SITTING VICE PRESIDENT!!!   NOPE!!   Pipe bomber???? NOPE!!
    No comment to post 11?

     
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    Posted: Apr. 8, 2022 - 7:03 PM ET #18

    Put your mind to task. 

    This happened in the FBI back freaking yard. 

    They understand why trump the national guards response to assist capital police the records will be retrieved of those phone lines.

    They are building a case to launch when he states he is running or they cover it up like JFK if trump plays ball.

    This is a National Security Concerns during the trump era the swamp got wider and deeper for sure. What you expect from an ex democrat Jeffery Epstein and Maxwell and Roger stone buddy? 

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    Put your mind to task. 

    This happened in the FBI back freaking yard. 

    They understand why trump the national guards response to assist capital police the records will be retrieved of those phone lines.

    They are building a case to launch when he states he is running or they cover it up like JFK if trump plays ball.

    This is a National Security Concerns during the trump era the swamp got wider and deeper for sure. What you expect from an ex democrat Jeffery Epstein and Maxwell and Roger stone buddy? 

     
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    Posted: Apr. 8, 2022 - 7:25 PM ET #19

    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    Yes the chief suspect remains free in mar largo but the government is building a case. So 5 hours of phone records are missing wonder who the traitor called during the seige on our Capital. Possible he made calls to the insurrectionist led by his buddy Roger Stone.

    an_roll_laugh

    SO SORRY TO DISAPPOINT YOU ABOUT THE CULT'S CRAZE FOR THOSE "MISSING PHONE RECORDS"

    https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/31/politics/mystery-call-gap-trump-jan-6-white-house-phone-logs/index.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    Yes the chief suspect remains free in mar largo but the government is building a case. So 5 hours of phone records are missing wonder who the traitor called during the seige on our Capital. Possible he made calls to the insurrectionist led by his buddy Roger Stone.

    an_roll_laugh

    SO SORRY TO DISAPPOINT YOU ABOUT THE CULT'S CRAZE FOR THOSE "MISSING PHONE RECORDS"

    https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/31/politics/mystery-call-gap-trump-jan-6-white-house-phone-logs/index.html

     
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    Posted: Apr. 8, 2022 - 7:32 PM ET #20

    Quote Originally Posted by MrWhatsItToYa:

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN: So there were folks who threatened the life of the vice president of the United States by threating to hang him. Built gallows. THAT'S A FEDERAL CRIME!!!!! FOR SURE THEY CAN TRACE WHO BOUGHT THE WOOD AND ROPE. SO I AM SURE THE JANUARY 6TH COMMITTEE AND THE FBI HAS FOUND AND PROSECUTED THOSE WHO THREATENED THE LIFE OF A SITTING VICE PRESIDENT!!!   NOPE!!   Pipe bomber???? NOPE!!No comment to post 11?

    I missed it!

    No, most folks I talk to think Pence is "old school" Don't upset the apple cart type. Without flat proof he shouldn't have tried to stop it.

    When states changed their elections illegally as several did through various means the Republicans needed to step in right away and contest those changes BEFORE the election. Big mistake to wait afterwards. That won't happen again!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrWhatsItToYa:

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN: So there were folks who threatened the life of the vice president of the United States by threating to hang him. Built gallows. THAT'S A FEDERAL CRIME!!!!! FOR SURE THEY CAN TRACE WHO BOUGHT THE WOOD AND ROPE. SO I AM SURE THE JANUARY 6TH COMMITTEE AND THE FBI HAS FOUND AND PROSECUTED THOSE WHO THREATENED THE LIFE OF A SITTING VICE PRESIDENT!!!   NOPE!!   Pipe bomber???? NOPE!!No comment to post 11?

    I missed it!

    No, most folks I talk to think Pence is "old school" Don't upset the apple cart type. Without flat proof he shouldn't have tried to stop it.

    When states changed their elections illegally as several did through various means the Republicans needed to step in right away and contest those changes BEFORE the election. Big mistake to wait afterwards. That won't happen again!!

     
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    Posted: Apr. 8, 2022 - 7:32 PM ET #21

    Not even the one to Mike pence was reported smells like a cover up.... Of maga proportions.

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    Not even the one to Mike pence was reported smells like a cover up.... Of maga proportions.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    Quote Originally Posted by MrWhatsItToYa: Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN: So there were folks who threatened the life of the vice president of the United States by threating to hang him. Built gallows. THAT'S A FEDERAL CRIME!!!!! FOR SURE THEY CAN TRACE WHO BOUGHT THE WOOD AND ROPE. SO I AM SURE THE JANUARY 6TH COMMITTEE AND THE FBI HAS FOUND AND PROSECUTED THOSE WHO THREATENED THE LIFE OF A SITTING VICE PRESIDENT!!!   NOPE!!   Pipe bomber???? NOPE!!No comment to post 11? I missed it! No, most folks I talk to think Pence is "old school" Don't upset the apple cart type. Without flat proof he shouldn't have tried to stop it. When states changed their elections illegally as several did through various means the Republicans needed to step in right away and contest those changes BEFORE the election. Big mistake to wait afterwards. That won't happen again!!

    Yes it was an act of a traitor. I was all for trump going to the sunset retired. Now I feel we need to lock him up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    Quote Originally Posted by MrWhatsItToYa: Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN: So there were folks who threatened the life of the vice president of the United States by threating to hang him. Built gallows. THAT'S A FEDERAL CRIME!!!!! FOR SURE THEY CAN TRACE WHO BOUGHT THE WOOD AND ROPE. SO I AM SURE THE JANUARY 6TH COMMITTEE AND THE FBI HAS FOUND AND PROSECUTED THOSE WHO THREATENED THE LIFE OF A SITTING VICE PRESIDENT!!!   NOPE!!   Pipe bomber???? NOPE!!No comment to post 11? I missed it! No, most folks I talk to think Pence is "old school" Don't upset the apple cart type. Without flat proof he shouldn't have tried to stop it. When states changed their elections illegally as several did through various means the Republicans needed to step in right away and contest those changes BEFORE the election. Big mistake to wait afterwards. That won't happen again!!

    Yes it was an act of a traitor. I was all for trump going to the sunset retired. Now I feel we need to lock him up.

     
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    Posted: Apr. 8, 2022 - 7:38 PM ET #23

    Personally I like to see a Rick Santorum  I like Rick he can win the Catholic vote and actually defeat sleepy Joe...,

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    Personally I like to see a Rick Santorum  I like Rick he can win the Catholic vote and actually defeat sleepy Joe...,

     
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    Posted: Apr. 8, 2022 - 8:11 PM ET #24

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    Quote Originally Posted by MrWhatsItToYa: Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN: So there were folks who threatened the life of the vice president of the United States by threating to hang him. Built gallows. THAT'S A FEDERAL CRIME!!!!! FOR SURE THEY CAN TRACE WHO BOUGHT THE WOOD AND ROPE. SO I AM SURE THE JANUARY 6TH COMMITTEE AND THE FBI HAS FOUND AND PROSECUTED THOSE WHO THREATENED THE LIFE OF A SITTING VICE PRESIDENT!!!   NOPE!!   Pipe bomber???? NOPE!!No comment to post 11? I missed it! No, most folks I talk to think Pence is "old school" Don't upset the apple cart type. Without flat proof he shouldn't have tried to stop it. When states changed their elections illegally as several did through various means the Republicans needed to step in right away and contest those changes BEFORE the election. Big mistake to wait afterwards. That won't happen again!!
    So let me see if I got this straight,I don't wanna put any words in your mouth that you haven't said.What your saying is trump should have acknowledged that he lost a fair election?

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    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    Quote Originally Posted by MrWhatsItToYa: Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN: So there were folks who threatened the life of the vice president of the United States by threating to hang him. Built gallows. THAT'S A FEDERAL CRIME!!!!! FOR SURE THEY CAN TRACE WHO BOUGHT THE WOOD AND ROPE. SO I AM SURE THE JANUARY 6TH COMMITTEE AND THE FBI HAS FOUND AND PROSECUTED THOSE WHO THREATENED THE LIFE OF A SITTING VICE PRESIDENT!!!   NOPE!!   Pipe bomber???? NOPE!!No comment to post 11? I missed it! No, most folks I talk to think Pence is "old school" Don't upset the apple cart type. Without flat proof he shouldn't have tried to stop it. When states changed their elections illegally as several did through various means the Republicans needed to step in right away and contest those changes BEFORE the election. Big mistake to wait afterwards. That won't happen again!!
    So let me see if I got this straight,I don't wanna put any words in your mouth that you haven't said.What your saying is trump should have acknowledged that he lost a fair election?

     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    Quote Originally Posted by lancer89074: Pence has three chances to win the nomination in 2024...slim, fat, and none...the white haired mouse will be dissed on the campaign trail. He is viewed as a back stabber and traitor. ....but why is he viewed that way?

    The republican party has at least two main factions fighting for power...the nationalistic populists (or America Firsters/Trump and DeSantis faction) and the business as usual corrupted and bribed establishment (or RINOS McConnell, Romney, and Pence faction). 

    There is very little difference between the rinos/neo cons and the neo liberals or as Jimmy Dore calls them $hit libs...both of the neo factions are war mongering, authoritarian fascists on the take for anyone who will bribe them imo (sellouts)...Pence aside from his canned speeches is for sale...hence my disdain for him and all of those puppets like him. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    Quote Originally Posted by lancer89074: Pence has three chances to win the nomination in 2024...slim, fat, and none...the white haired mouse will be dissed on the campaign trail. He is viewed as a back stabber and traitor. ....but why is he viewed that way?

    The republican party has at least two main factions fighting for power...the nationalistic populists (or America Firsters/Trump and DeSantis faction) and the business as usual corrupted and bribed establishment (or RINOS McConnell, Romney, and Pence faction). 

    There is very little difference between the rinos/neo cons and the neo liberals or as Jimmy Dore calls them $hit libs...both of the neo factions are war mongering, authoritarian fascists on the take for anyone who will bribe them imo (sellouts)...Pence aside from his canned speeches is for sale...hence my disdain for him and all of those puppets like him. 

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