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    HockeyTeeth
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    Posted: Mar. 17, 2018 - 3:45 PM ET #26

    The pension issue is a red herring, every left wing whack job is up in arms over this. 

    F him. Soros will take care of him. 

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    The pension issue is a red herring, every left wing whack job is up in arms over this. 

    F him. Soros will take care of him. 

     
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    Posted: Mar. 17, 2018 - 3:51 PM ET #27

    Quote Originally Posted by sundance:

    The 'ugly' is 4 FBI officials going rogue to take down a duly elected President. He does not need his retirement 'crumbs' to be paid for by the US tax payer.  Only personal, financial Armageddon is in 'Andy' McCabe's future.

    There is nothing wrong with them being suspicious of Trump, hell most of the country is suspicious of Trump and if there is reason to take him down then it should happen. Trump brings much of this on himself by how poorly he treats people and the lack of respect he shows over and over and over.

    Like I said....even if the guy is deserving it does not mean you have to sack him the day before vesting...it is classless, disgusting, in poor taste and showing of this administration and especially Trump's complete lack of class and it shows how he is degrading this office.

    The way to have handled this is to quietly without fanfare or media involvement let him go...not create even more drama and make a spectacle of another person as they did.

    Acting like this really is an ugly way to treat another person yet it is becoming commonplace and accepted, that is the most troublesome thing developing the last 18 months.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sundance:

    The 'ugly' is 4 FBI officials going rogue to take down a duly elected President. He does not need his retirement 'crumbs' to be paid for by the US tax payer.  Only personal, financial Armageddon is in 'Andy' McCabe's future.

    There is nothing wrong with them being suspicious of Trump, hell most of the country is suspicious of Trump and if there is reason to take him down then it should happen. Trump brings much of this on himself by how poorly he treats people and the lack of respect he shows over and over and over.

    Like I said....even if the guy is deserving it does not mean you have to sack him the day before vesting...it is classless, disgusting, in poor taste and showing of this administration and especially Trump's complete lack of class and it shows how he is degrading this office.

    The way to have handled this is to quietly without fanfare or media involvement let him go...not create even more drama and make a spectacle of another person as they did.

    Acting like this really is an ugly way to treat another person yet it is becoming commonplace and accepted, that is the most troublesome thing developing the last 18 months.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 17, 2018 - 3:52 PM ET #28

    Quote Originally Posted by HockeyTeeth:

    The pension issue is a red herring, every left wing whack job is up in arms over this.  F him. Soros will take care of him.

     

    Then DONT MAKE IT a red herring.... it didnt need to be handled this way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HockeyTeeth:

    The pension issue is a red herring, every left wing whack job is up in arms over this.  F him. Soros will take care of him.

     

    Then DONT MAKE IT a red herring.... it didnt need to be handled this way.

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    Posted: Mar. 17, 2018 - 3:59 PM ET #29

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    Thanks for sharing this darkhorse. 

    The drivel coming from under the rocks & dark basements is to be expected. The truth will come out but still won't be accepted by the blind in his forum.

    Keep up the good work. Truth always overcomes evil & stupidity.

    Really? Like Benghazi was about an anti-Muslim video by the Americans? Bo Berghdal served with honor & distinction? Truth - do you know what that looks like?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    Thanks for sharing this darkhorse. 

    The drivel coming from under the rocks & dark basements is to be expected. The truth will come out but still won't be accepted by the blind in his forum.

    Keep up the good work. Truth always overcomes evil & stupidity.

    Really? Like Benghazi was about an anti-Muslim video by the Americans? Bo Berghdal served with honor & distinction? Truth - do you know what that looks like?
     
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    Posted: Mar. 17, 2018 - 4:36 PM ET #30

    He knew what he was doing. He/they just didnt think it would be an issue with Hillary in the office. She isin't. Time to pay the piper. He will be looked after he has done his job. 

     

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    He knew what he was doing. He/they just didnt think it would be an issue with Hillary in the office. She isin't. Time to pay the piper. He will be looked after he has done his job. 

     

     
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    Posted: Mar. 17, 2018 - 4:44 PM ET #31

    Before, McCabe was fired there was a process that was in play and AG Sessions needed time to review the findings and the recommendations of the department's senior career official,at the FBI's Office of Professional Responsibility..Along with the report of the Inspector General..

    If, Sessions only received those findings early this week how could he fire McCabe any sooner?

    Sessions
    decision to fire McCabe was the proper response, at the end of the investigation into his actions....McCabe was a “bad actor” ...

    ....as far as firing McCabe two days before he was set to retire ..it could have been worse ...he could have been fired on his 50th birthday which is on Sunday..

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    Before, McCabe was fired there was a process that was in play and AG Sessions needed time to review the findings and the recommendations of the department's senior career official,at the FBI's Office of Professional Responsibility..Along with the report of the Inspector General..

    If, Sessions only received those findings early this week how could he fire McCabe any sooner?

    Sessions
    decision to fire McCabe was the proper response, at the end of the investigation into his actions....McCabe was a “bad actor” ...

    ....as far as firing McCabe two days before he was set to retire ..it could have been worse ...he could have been fired on his 50th birthday which is on Sunday..

     
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    Posted: Mar. 17, 2018 - 4:57 PM ET #32

    As usual the typical replies from those who agree/support Trump come running out to rationalize this bad decision.

    How long had this guy been working in the FBI? Long enough to nearly vest a pension, so spare me the "bad actor" routine, the guy had been employed a long time.

    Irregardless of the merit or reason, the issue isnt if he was deserving or if he was going after Trump or leaking or being difficult towards that poor poor man, our beloved President Trump...not even the issue.

    The issue is how this was done, the way it was done and the lack of respect you have for any person even one that you do not agree with and maybe was attacking or making your life difficult whatever it is. There are professional ways to do things, there are secretive and tactful ways to do things...then there is the abusive, little ego media attention ways that we see nearly daily from this administration. I do not know what went on inside but I am sure we will hear the other side than Trump's here in the future and nothing is one sided...nothing but the way you treat others even your enemy is the issue.

    Trump is turning this country against each other, against one another and there are many people (inside this thread and forum) who actually support and agree and cheer for this approach and it is disgusting...it is all that is wrong with how to be above that which is around you and be better than abusing others even when warranted.

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    As usual the typical replies from those who agree/support Trump come running out to rationalize this bad decision.

    How long had this guy been working in the FBI? Long enough to nearly vest a pension, so spare me the "bad actor" routine, the guy had been employed a long time.

    Irregardless of the merit or reason, the issue isnt if he was deserving or if he was going after Trump or leaking or being difficult towards that poor poor man, our beloved President Trump...not even the issue.

    The issue is how this was done, the way it was done and the lack of respect you have for any person even one that you do not agree with and maybe was attacking or making your life difficult whatever it is. There are professional ways to do things, there are secretive and tactful ways to do things...then there is the abusive, little ego media attention ways that we see nearly daily from this administration. I do not know what went on inside but I am sure we will hear the other side than Trump's here in the future and nothing is one sided...nothing but the way you treat others even your enemy is the issue.

    Trump is turning this country against each other, against one another and there are many people (inside this thread and forum) who actually support and agree and cheer for this approach and it is disgusting...it is all that is wrong with how to be above that which is around you and be better than abusing others even when warranted.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 17, 2018 - 4:58 PM ET #33

    WSC, I remember how outraged people were when this guy and his crony bosses at the FBI came to the conclusion in record time.
    " We see no evidence of any wrongdoing. "
    What a corrupt group that was. PITIFUL 

    This president holds people accountable for their behind closed door antics.   
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    WSC, I remember how outraged people were when this guy and his crony bosses at the FBI came to the conclusion in record time.
    " We see no evidence of any wrongdoing. "
    What a corrupt group that was. PITIFUL 

    This president holds people accountable for their behind closed door antics.   
     
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    Posted: Mar. 17, 2018 - 4:59 PM ET #34

    President Trump is  DRAINING THE SWAMP
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    President Trump is  DRAINING THE SWAMP
     
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    Posted: Mar. 17, 2018 - 5:00 PM ET #35

    Quote Originally Posted by LRM704:

    WSC, I remember how outraged people were when this guy and his crony bosses at the FBI came to the conclusion in record time." We see no evidence of any wrongdoing. "What a corrupt group that was. PITIFUL This president holds people accountable for their behind closed door antics.

    Read what I am saying and quit defending what you consider "reasonable" actions done in a slanderous and disgusting manner.

    I do not know the why, I do not know if there was merit or what the reasons were....I do know I cannot stand this media based abuse of others that we see and MANY here are happy with. I am not happy with this, we should expect more from the leader of our country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LRM704:

    WSC, I remember how outraged people were when this guy and his crony bosses at the FBI came to the conclusion in record time." We see no evidence of any wrongdoing. "What a corrupt group that was. PITIFUL This president holds people accountable for their behind closed door antics.

    Read what I am saying and quit defending what you consider "reasonable" actions done in a slanderous and disgusting manner.

    I do not know the why, I do not know if there was merit or what the reasons were....I do know I cannot stand this media based abuse of others that we see and MANY here are happy with. I am not happy with this, we should expect more from the leader of our country.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 17, 2018 - 5:01 PM ET #36

    I agree with one thing. They shouldn't have waited till now. He should have been charged with a cover up. and hindering an investigation 


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    I agree with one thing. They shouldn't have waited till now. He should have been charged with a cover up. and hindering an investigation 


     
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    Posted: Mar. 17, 2018 - 5:08 PM ET #37

    You mean the media based abuse that piled on this president from the day he announce he was a candidate. The moderators who were supposed to be NEUTRAL and UNBIASED at the debates  
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    You mean the media based abuse that piled on this president from the day he announce he was a candidate. The moderators who were supposed to be NEUTRAL and UNBIASED at the debates  
     
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    Posted: Mar. 17, 2018 - 5:11 PM ET #38

    Starting with the former president an investigation should be done on all of his corrupted cabinet that he was very aware of 


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    Starting with the former president an investigation should be done on all of his corrupted cabinet that he was very aware of 


     
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    Posted: Mar. 17, 2018 - 5:19 PM ET #39

    Quote Originally Posted by LRM704:

    You mean the media based abuse that piled on this president from the day he announce he was a candidate. The moderators who were supposed to be NEUTRAL and UNBIASED at the debates

     

    This is 100% the backwards way of thinking I am alluding to. So you want to rationalize the really awful treatment of others because the media or someone else did something deserving right? What ever happened to being the better person and being above slopping in the filth even beneath those you are against?

    I get you...what you want to do is rationalize his actions because you side with him and thus whatever he does is ok because you side with him. Well I am not that way, I think there are boundaries and certain levels of respect that this office should have and Trump is turning people against each other and Trump is making you feel validated for feeling the way you do...that it is ok to fire someone in public a day before a pension is to start to MAKE A POINT...to PUT someone down and to make a media spectacle of someone. I think its awful...its terrible and he is a lousy person for acting like this on nearly a daily basis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LRM704:

    You mean the media based abuse that piled on this president from the day he announce he was a candidate. The moderators who were supposed to be NEUTRAL and UNBIASED at the debates

     

    This is 100% the backwards way of thinking I am alluding to. So you want to rationalize the really awful treatment of others because the media or someone else did something deserving right? What ever happened to being the better person and being above slopping in the filth even beneath those you are against?

    I get you...what you want to do is rationalize his actions because you side with him and thus whatever he does is ok because you side with him. Well I am not that way, I think there are boundaries and certain levels of respect that this office should have and Trump is turning people against each other and Trump is making you feel validated for feeling the way you do...that it is ok to fire someone in public a day before a pension is to start to MAKE A POINT...to PUT someone down and to make a media spectacle of someone. I think its awful...its terrible and he is a lousy person for acting like this on nearly a daily basis.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 17, 2018 - 5:27 PM ET #40

    Wall, what exactly was wrong with the "way it was done", there was an investigation, it was recommended he be fired. What is so immoral about this? if his peers recommended he be fired how it it an immoral act?

    Please dont mention his pension in your reply.

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    Wall, what exactly was wrong with the "way it was done", there was an investigation, it was recommended he be fired. What is so immoral about this? if his peers recommended he be fired how it it an immoral act?

    Please dont mention his pension in your reply.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 17, 2018 - 5:33 PM ET #41

    Angry, spiteful tripe = anyone who didn’t vote for Hillary Clinton 

    And also, no name calling in this forum or I will put you in the penalty box because I am a moderator. 

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    Angry, spiteful tripe = anyone who didn’t vote for Hillary Clinton 

    And also, no name calling in this forum or I will put you in the penalty box because I am a moderator. 

     
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    Posted: Mar. 17, 2018 - 5:34 PM ET #42

    Wallstreet, what is Gen Flynn in trouble for and who investigated him? 

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    Wallstreet, what is Gen Flynn in trouble for and who investigated him? 

     
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    Posted: Mar. 17, 2018 - 5:35 PM ET #43

    McCabe's dismissal jeopardized his ability to collect full pension benefits after more than 20 years as a career FBI official...but that's his early retirement benefits..50 is the minimum age to draw a early retirement pension.

    Even with the firing, lawyers said, McCabe probably will not lose his entire pension — but it may be reduced..per federal rules, McCabe may not be able to draw an annuity until a date ranging just shy of his 57th birthday..

    Andy has nothing to worry about ..some Congressional Democrat will hire him to do some sort of cushy ‘low-show’ job till his annuity kicks in..

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    McCabe's dismissal jeopardized his ability to collect full pension benefits after more than 20 years as a career FBI official...but that's his early retirement benefits..50 is the minimum age to draw a early retirement pension.

    Even with the firing, lawyers said, McCabe probably will not lose his entire pension — but it may be reduced..per federal rules, McCabe may not be able to draw an annuity until a date ranging just shy of his 57th birthday..

    Andy has nothing to worry about ..some Congressional Democrat will hire him to do some sort of cushy ‘low-show’ job till his annuity kicks in..

     
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    Posted: Mar. 17, 2018 - 5:42 PM ET #44

    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    Angry, spiteful tripe = anyone who didn’t vote for Hillary Clinton And also, no name calling in this forum or I will put you in the penalty box because I am a moderator.

    You are merely following suit to how Trump behaves, you like to rationalize your attacks and jabs the same way he does. Read what I said and I keep saying...I dont know if there was merit, I dont know if there was cause but what I do know is the public, disgusting humiliating way Trump chose to execute his employment. It is the wrong way to act as leader of this country. The only issue to me is how Trump is rationalizing really bad leadership and public assault on those that he feels are against him. This isnt the first time, it isnt even the first time this week. Not knowing BOTH SIDES and all the information, I only evaluate the way he treats others...and that is just unacceptable as leader of this country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    Angry, spiteful tripe = anyone who didn’t vote for Hillary Clinton And also, no name calling in this forum or I will put you in the penalty box because I am a moderator.

    You are merely following suit to how Trump behaves, you like to rationalize your attacks and jabs the same way he does. Read what I said and I keep saying...I dont know if there was merit, I dont know if there was cause but what I do know is the public, disgusting humiliating way Trump chose to execute his employment. It is the wrong way to act as leader of this country. The only issue to me is how Trump is rationalizing really bad leadership and public assault on those that he feels are against him. This isnt the first time, it isnt even the first time this week. Not knowing BOTH SIDES and all the information, I only evaluate the way he treats others...and that is just unacceptable as leader of this country.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 17, 2018 - 5:46 PM ET #45

    Quote Originally Posted by HockeyTeeth:

    Wall, what exactly was wrong with the "way it was done", there was an investigation, it was recommended he be fired. What is so immoral about this? if his peers recommended he be fired how it it an immoral act? Please dont mention his pension in your reply.

    There is letting someone go with respect to your office and position AND to the person even if you disagree and he is your enemy...then there is the way Trump does things.

    Hold Trump to a higher standard as our leader, there is NOTHING positive gained by dividing the country and by publically attacking people who you disagree with. He has a multi decade history of this petty little ego way of handling himself. This position is one of leadership and honor, there is nothing honorable about media based attacks of those who you are leading and those who you disagree with. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by HockeyTeeth:

    Wall, what exactly was wrong with the "way it was done", there was an investigation, it was recommended he be fired. What is so immoral about this? if his peers recommended he be fired how it it an immoral act? Please dont mention his pension in your reply.

    There is letting someone go with respect to your office and position AND to the person even if you disagree and he is your enemy...then there is the way Trump does things.

    Hold Trump to a higher standard as our leader, there is NOTHING positive gained by dividing the country and by publically attacking people who you disagree with. He has a multi decade history of this petty little ego way of handling himself. This position is one of leadership and honor, there is nothing honorable about media based attacks of those who you are leading and those who you disagree with. 

     
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    Posted: Mar. 17, 2018 - 5:50 PM ET #46

    Tax-payer funded pension at 50 years old. 50. 50 years old. Five-zero. 50. Fifty years old. 
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    Tax-payer funded pension at 50 years old. 50. 50 years old. Five-zero. 50. Fifty years old. 
     
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    Posted: Mar. 17, 2018 - 5:53 PM ET #47

    Trump didn’t investigate McCabe. The FBI and OIG did andwhat they found is very disturbing. 

    What exactly did Trump say or do that you have a problem with? 

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    Trump didn’t investigate McCabe. The FBI and OIG did andwhat they found is very disturbing. 

    What exactly did Trump say or do that you have a problem with? 

     
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    Posted: Mar. 17, 2018 - 6:05 PM ET #48

    I'm starting to agree with the liberal left in this thread....let McCabe keep his pension,,,but throw him in jail..
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    I'm starting to agree with the liberal left in this thread....let McCabe keep his pension,,,but throw him in jail..
     
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    Posted: Mar. 17, 2018 - 6:05 PM ET #49

    Deep State John Brennan Tweet: When the full extent of your venality, moral turpitude, and political corruption becomes known, you will take your rightful place as a disgraced demagogue in the dustbin of history. You may scapegoat Andy McCabe, but you will  not destroy America...America will triumph over you.

    Does Wallstreet have a problem with this kind of talk? Or is this kind of talk ok when it’s the deep state because Wallstreet supports the deep state? 

    Or maybe this tweet and Trump’s tweet is just the way men talk? 

    It’s tough to follow Wallstreet’s logic. Maybe he will be able to provide us with examples to show why Brennan’s tweet is ok but the way Trump talks is not ok? 
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    Deep State John Brennan Tweet: When the full extent of your venality, moral turpitude, and political corruption becomes known, you will take your rightful place as a disgraced demagogue in the dustbin of history. You may scapegoat Andy McCabe, but you will  not destroy America...America will triumph over you.

    Does Wallstreet have a problem with this kind of talk? Or is this kind of talk ok when it’s the deep state because Wallstreet supports the deep state? 

    Or maybe this tweet and Trump’s tweet is just the way men talk? 

    It’s tough to follow Wallstreet’s logic. Maybe he will be able to provide us with examples to show why Brennan’s tweet is ok but the way Trump talks is not ok? 
     
     
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    Posted: Mar. 17, 2018 - 6:29 PM ET #50

    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    I'm starting to agree with the liberal left in this thread....let McCabe keep his pension,,,but throw him in jail..

     

    Must you act like a twit in this way? How about just that you agree with the pension issue and if he is deserving AND given full and fair trial if he is found guilty then he go to jail?

    Why must you always say those really tacky things instead of being respectful and courteous? Liberal Left??? You have no idea what my political position is and even if I did fit whatever this definition is to you, how about you show some class and keep the crap out of the discussion? You are way too old to be so childish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    I'm starting to agree with the liberal left in this thread....let McCabe keep his pension,,,but throw him in jail..

     

    Must you act like a twit in this way? How about just that you agree with the pension issue and if he is deserving AND given full and fair trial if he is found guilty then he go to jail?

    Why must you always say those really tacky things instead of being respectful and courteous? Liberal Left??? You have no idea what my political position is and even if I did fit whatever this definition is to you, how about you show some class and keep the crap out of the discussion? You are way too old to be so childish.

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