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    Mark Cuban says Trump isn't a billionaire

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    DogbiteWilliams
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    Posted: Jun. 4, 2016 - 6:37 PM ET #1

    https://politicalwire.com/2016/06/04/cuban-says-trump-isnt-a-billionaire/

    That would certainly refute Trump's egotistical claims about how much money he has.

    Of course his refusal to release his tax returns and his four bankruptcies and his blindness to the real estate bubble brand him as a lying sack of shxt and a business dunderhead in my mind.

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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.

    https://politicalwire.com/2016/06/04/cuban-says-trump-isnt-a-billionaire/

    That would certainly refute Trump's egotistical claims about how much money he has.

    Of course his refusal to release his tax returns and his four bankruptcies and his blindness to the real estate bubble brand him as a lying sack of shxt and a business dunderhead in my mind.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 4, 2016 - 7:05 PM ET #2

    Yawn
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    Yawn
     
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    Posted: Jun. 4, 2016 - 9:09 PM ET #3


    Dogbite these threads are lame.  Nobody cares.

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    Dogbite these threads are lame.  Nobody cares.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 4, 2016 - 9:24 PM ET #4

    Quote Originally Posted by 165yds:


    Dogbite these threads are lame.  Nobody cares.


    I notice you never say that about a zelo123 thread....  Even Uncle Creepy said he was too far out there. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by 165yds:


    Dogbite these threads are lame.  Nobody cares.


    I notice you never say that about a zelo123 thread....  Even Uncle Creepy said he was too far out there. 
     
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    Posted: Jun. 4, 2016 - 9:34 PM ET #5

    He too is over the top at times with certain threads.  Thought this was understood by everyone.  The next lame Zelo thread I'll say it.
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    He too is over the top at times with certain threads.  Thought this was understood by everyone.  The next lame Zelo thread I'll say it.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 4, 2016 - 10:34 PM ET #6

    It is funny how the left will try to vilify wealth in respect to Romney... but will vilify Trump for not being as wealthy as thought

    So how wealthy should a candidate be to be worthy to run for POTUS?

    Is more better?  Maybe less is better?  Maybe it depends on the year?  Maybe it depends if they earned the wealth vs taking bribes from foreign dignitaries?  So many questions...
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    It is funny how the left will try to vilify wealth in respect to Romney... but will vilify Trump for not being as wealthy as thought

    So how wealthy should a candidate be to be worthy to run for POTUS?

    Is more better?  Maybe less is better?  Maybe it depends on the year?  Maybe it depends if they earned the wealth vs taking bribes from foreign dignitaries?  So many questions...
     
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    Posted: Jun. 4, 2016 - 10:48 PM ET #7

    I agree it is a yawn point. But when you consider everything else it is not. The guy is an egotistical liar. He lies about quite literally everything. Yet many "people" still support such an non-pesenditial liar. It is embarrassing.

    Many news outlets have directly said that there is no need in even fact checking trump anymore because it is pointless and not a good use of time/ resources. That he lies so much that you can just assume he is doing so if he is talking.

    But hey. He will make America great again -- right???

    Trump supporters should be ashamed.
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    I agree it is a yawn point. But when you consider everything else it is not. The guy is an egotistical liar. He lies about quite literally everything. Yet many "people" still support such an non-pesenditial liar. It is embarrassing.

    Many news outlets have directly said that there is no need in even fact checking trump anymore because it is pointless and not a good use of time/ resources. That he lies so much that you can just assume he is doing so if he is talking.

    But hey. He will make America great again -- right???

    Trump supporters should be ashamed.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 4, 2016 - 11:05 PM ET #8

    Quote Originally Posted by SportsFan9698:

    It is funny how the left will try to vilify wealth in respect to Romney... but will vilify Trump for not being as wealthy as thought

    So how wealthy should a candidate be to be worthy to run for POTUS?

    Is more better?  Maybe less is better?  Maybe it depends on the year?  Maybe it depends if they earned the wealth vs taking bribes from foreign dignitaries?  So many questions...

    You are smarter than this..

    It is all about his exaggerative bragging and thus the truth vs lies he spews about everything...and that has an effect on what kind of person he is and thus what kind of leader he would be.

    I dont trust a word that comes out of his mouth, the way he speaks tells me he is an uneducated blow hard who really has nothing of depth to say but plenty of hot air about nothing.

    How can you stand behind such a moron like this? And please spare me the Obama stinks reply, this is about Trump and his words, his wealth, his lies..not about how crappy Obama is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SportsFan9698:

    It is funny how the left will try to vilify wealth in respect to Romney... but will vilify Trump for not being as wealthy as thought

    So how wealthy should a candidate be to be worthy to run for POTUS?

    Is more better?  Maybe less is better?  Maybe it depends on the year?  Maybe it depends if they earned the wealth vs taking bribes from foreign dignitaries?  So many questions...

    You are smarter than this..

    It is all about his exaggerative bragging and thus the truth vs lies he spews about everything...and that has an effect on what kind of person he is and thus what kind of leader he would be.

    I dont trust a word that comes out of his mouth, the way he speaks tells me he is an uneducated blow hard who really has nothing of depth to say but plenty of hot air about nothing.

    How can you stand behind such a moron like this? And please spare me the Obama stinks reply, this is about Trump and his words, his wealth, his lies..not about how crappy Obama is.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 4, 2016 - 11:16 PM ET #9

    Quote Originally Posted by mattbrot:

    I agree it is a yawn point. But when you consider everything else it is not. The guy is an egotistical liar. He lies about quite literally everything. Yet many "people" still support such an non-pesenditial liar. It is embarrassing.

    Many news outlets have directly said that there is no need in even fact checking trump anymore because it is pointless and not a good use of time/ resources. That he lies so much that you can just assume he is doing so if he is talking.

    But hey. He will make America great again -- right???

    Trump supporters should be ashamed.



    When it comes to lying, Hillary Clinton is in a league all by herself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattbrot:

    I agree it is a yawn point. But when you consider everything else it is not. The guy is an egotistical liar. He lies about quite literally everything. Yet many "people" still support such an non-pesenditial liar. It is embarrassing.

    Many news outlets have directly said that there is no need in even fact checking trump anymore because it is pointless and not a good use of time/ resources. That he lies so much that you can just assume he is doing so if he is talking.

    But hey. He will make America great again -- right???

    Trump supporters should be ashamed.



    When it comes to lying, Hillary Clinton is in a league all by herself.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 5, 2016 - 5:31 AM ET #10

    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:


    You are smarter than this..

    It is all about his exaggerative bragging and thus the truth vs lies he spews about everything...and that has an effect on what kind of person he is and thus what kind of leader he would be.

    I dont trust a word that comes out of his mouth, the way he speaks tells me he is an uneducated blow hard who really has nothing of depth to say but plenty of hot air about nothing.

    How can you stand behind such a moron like this? And please spare me the Obama stinks reply, this is about Trump and his words, his wealth, his lies..not about how crappy Obama is.

    We are simply going to disagree on this.  No problem... you don't trust Trump - I say HRC is the biggest fraud I have ever seen in politics.

    Yes I do like and trust Trump.  He says what needs to be said... yes sometimes I wince when some words come out of his mouth.  But overall I know he is not a fraud and he will do more to make USA so much better. 

    I guess that depends on your view of what is better?  Become a euro like socialist part of the new world order?  Not for me... I like the dominate strength of world leader and best economic machine in the world.  Trump can do that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:


    You are smarter than this..

    It is all about his exaggerative bragging and thus the truth vs lies he spews about everything...and that has an effect on what kind of person he is and thus what kind of leader he would be.

    I dont trust a word that comes out of his mouth, the way he speaks tells me he is an uneducated blow hard who really has nothing of depth to say but plenty of hot air about nothing.

    How can you stand behind such a moron like this? And please spare me the Obama stinks reply, this is about Trump and his words, his wealth, his lies..not about how crappy Obama is.

    We are simply going to disagree on this.  No problem... you don't trust Trump - I say HRC is the biggest fraud I have ever seen in politics.

    Yes I do like and trust Trump.  He says what needs to be said... yes sometimes I wince when some words come out of his mouth.  But overall I know he is not a fraud and he will do more to make USA so much better. 

    I guess that depends on your view of what is better?  Become a euro like socialist part of the new world order?  Not for me... I like the dominate strength of world leader and best economic machine in the world.  Trump can do that.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 5, 2016 - 7:17 PM ET #11

    To the OP of this thread, why is the man's wealth an important argument for you .  
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    To the OP of this thread, why is the man's wealth an important argument for you .  
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rush51:

    To the OP of this thread, why is the man's wealth an important argument for you .  

    Post #7
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rush51:

    To the OP of this thread, why is the man's wealth an important argument for you .  

    Post #7
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by SportsFan9698:


    We are simply going to disagree on this.  No problem... you don't trust Trump - I say HRC is the biggest fraud I have ever seen in politics.

    Yes I do like and trust Trump.  He says what needs to be said... yes sometimes I wince when some words come out of his mouth.  But overall I know he is not a fraud and he will do more to make USA so much better. 

    I guess that depends on your view of what is better?  Become a euro like socialist part of the new world order?  Not for me... I like the dominate strength of world leader and best economic machine in the world.  Trump can do that.

    I view Trump as an expert in using bankruptcy protection to his full advantage.  Other than that ... he brings nothing to the table in terms of real value.  As soon as the Dems unite after the June 7th primaries, you'll see his poll numbers plummet to stupid levels again.  Don't worry, your guy will not have a chance in the general elections.  
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    Quote Originally Posted by SportsFan9698:


    We are simply going to disagree on this.  No problem... you don't trust Trump - I say HRC is the biggest fraud I have ever seen in politics.

    Yes I do like and trust Trump.  He says what needs to be said... yes sometimes I wince when some words come out of his mouth.  But overall I know he is not a fraud and he will do more to make USA so much better. 

    I guess that depends on your view of what is better?  Become a euro like socialist part of the new world order?  Not for me... I like the dominate strength of world leader and best economic machine in the world.  Trump can do that.

    I view Trump as an expert in using bankruptcy protection to his full advantage.  Other than that ... he brings nothing to the table in terms of real value.  As soon as the Dems unite after the June 7th primaries, you'll see his poll numbers plummet to stupid levels again.  Don't worry, your guy will not have a chance in the general elections.  
     
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    Posted: Jun. 7, 2016 - 3:47 PM ET #14

    I may disagree with Cuban at times but he's spot on. Trump is all hot air and No substance.
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    I may disagree with Cuban at times but he's spot on. Trump is all hot air and No substance.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 10, 2016 - 7:28 PM ET #15

    According to this website, a realistic rate of return on real estate (including inflation) has been around 10% for the last 20 years.

    https://beginnersinvest.about.com/od/beginnerscorner/a/What-Is-Considered-A-Good-Rate-Of-Return-On-Your-Investments.htm

    If Donald Trump actually has a net worth of $10 billion like he claims, he should be able to realize a return of $1 billion a year if he is just an average real estate investor.  He certainly wouldn't feel the need to conceal his tax returns.

    I have not seen a shred of PROOF that Trump is a shrewd businessman worth $10 billion.  But there is indisputable proof that his companies have filed four bankruptcies and that he has problems or just downright refuses to pay his bills.

    There is a sucker born every minute and most of them seem to swallowing a certain someone's snake oil.
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    According to this website, a realistic rate of return on real estate (including inflation) has been around 10% for the last 20 years.

    https://beginnersinvest.about.com/od/beginnerscorner/a/What-Is-Considered-A-Good-Rate-Of-Return-On-Your-Investments.htm

    If Donald Trump actually has a net worth of $10 billion like he claims, he should be able to realize a return of $1 billion a year if he is just an average real estate investor.  He certainly wouldn't feel the need to conceal his tax returns.

    I have not seen a shred of PROOF that Trump is a shrewd businessman worth $10 billion.  But there is indisputable proof that his companies have filed four bankruptcies and that he has problems or just downright refuses to pay his bills.

    There is a sucker born every minute and most of them seem to swallowing a certain someone's snake oil.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by SportsFan9698:

    It is funny how the left will try to vilify wealth in respect to Romney... but will vilify Trump for not being as wealthy as thought

    No, we criticize him for not being as wealthy as he CLAIMS.  He has no experience as a politician; his alleged business acumen is what supposedly qualifies him to preside over the world's largest economy.

    I say his alleged business acumen is a myth, and the facts that he refuses to release his tax returns and claimed a deduction available only to those making less than $500,000 lend credence to the claim that he is a boastful fraud.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SportsFan9698:

    It is funny how the left will try to vilify wealth in respect to Romney... but will vilify Trump for not being as wealthy as thought

    No, we criticize him for not being as wealthy as he CLAIMS.  He has no experience as a politician; his alleged business acumen is what supposedly qualifies him to preside over the world's largest economy.

    I say his alleged business acumen is a myth, and the facts that he refuses to release his tax returns and claimed a deduction available only to those making less than $500,000 lend credence to the claim that he is a boastful fraud.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 11, 2016 - 7:44 PM ET #17

    https://www.businessinsider.com/trumps-casinos-were-failures-2016-6

    this article should tell you that his casino was failing because of high interest rate loans.

    you need good credit to get low interest loans which trump did not have.
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    https://www.businessinsider.com/trumps-casinos-were-failures-2016-6

    this article should tell you that his casino was failing because of high interest rate loans.

    you need good credit to get low interest loans which trump did not have.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 11, 2016 - 7:53 PM ET #18

    Quote Originally Posted by mainman11111:

    https://www.businessinsider.com/trumps-casinos-were-failures-2016-6

    this article should tell you that his casino was failing because of high interest rate loans.

    you need good credit to get low interest loans which trump did not have.

    This is true..

    When I was a broker a few yrs back I had a client who was from NJ and owned some Trump bonds which were publically traded and anyone could buy them..

    They were yielding over 15% and were selling at 60 cents on the dollar..this was before AC started dumping, back when PA did not have their approval etc etc...and even then the Trump bonds were for sure considered junk and were selling at 60% of par.

    No question he has always lived on the edge of leverage and has lost that battle more than once. No way do I believe any of his claims of wealth...not a chance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mainman11111:

    https://www.businessinsider.com/trumps-casinos-were-failures-2016-6

    this article should tell you that his casino was failing because of high interest rate loans.

    you need good credit to get low interest loans which trump did not have.

    This is true..

    When I was a broker a few yrs back I had a client who was from NJ and owned some Trump bonds which were publically traded and anyone could buy them..

    They were yielding over 15% and were selling at 60 cents on the dollar..this was before AC started dumping, back when PA did not have their approval etc etc...and even then the Trump bonds were for sure considered junk and were selling at 60% of par.

    No question he has always lived on the edge of leverage and has lost that battle more than once. No way do I believe any of his claims of wealth...not a chance.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 11, 2016 - 8:46 PM ET #19

    Quote Originally Posted by cave0707:


    I view Trump as an expert in using bankruptcy protection to his full advantage.  Other than that ... he brings nothing to the table in terms of real value.  As soon as the Dems unite after the June 7th primaries, you'll see his poll numbers plummet to stupid levels again.  Don't worry, your guy will not have a chance in the general elections.  

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    Quote Originally Posted by cave0707:


    I view Trump as an expert in using bankruptcy protection to his full advantage.  Other than that ... he brings nothing to the table in terms of real value.  As soon as the Dems unite after the June 7th primaries, you'll see his poll numbers plummet to stupid levels again.  Don't worry, your guy will not have a chance in the general elections.  

     
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    Posted: Jun. 11, 2016 - 9:29 PM ET #20

    Wow it's funny how there really is no retort for that
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    Wow it's funny how there really is no retort for that
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by mainman11111:

    https://www.businessinsider.com/trumps-casinos-were-failures-2016-6

    this article should tell you that his casino was failing because of high interest rate loans.

    you need good credit to get low interest loans which trump did not have.

    Wow and they want this guy in charge or our country and its debt?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mainman11111:

    https://www.businessinsider.com/trumps-casinos-were-failures-2016-6

    this article should tell you that his casino was failing because of high interest rate loans.

    you need good credit to get low interest loans which trump did not have.

    Wow and they want this guy in charge or our country and its debt?
     
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    Posted: Jun. 21, 2016 - 3:02 PM ET #22

    Trump gave Charlie Sheen fake platinum and diamond cufflinks while claiming they were genuine Harry Winston products.

     https://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/charlie-sheen-claims-donald-trump-gave-him-fake-diamond-and-platinum-cufflinks-a7090346.html

    Harry Winston donated the Hope Diamond to the Smithsonian Institute.

    The more I investigate Trump, the more I am convinced he is a pathological liar.  If he was actually worth $10 billion like he laughably claims, he could easily afford authentic, expensive jewelry.
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    Trump gave Charlie Sheen fake platinum and diamond cufflinks while claiming they were genuine Harry Winston products.

     https://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/charlie-sheen-claims-donald-trump-gave-him-fake-diamond-and-platinum-cufflinks-a7090346.html

    Harry Winston donated the Hope Diamond to the Smithsonian Institute.

    The more I investigate Trump, the more I am convinced he is a pathological liar.  If he was actually worth $10 billion like he laughably claims, he could easily afford authentic, expensive jewelry.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by DogbiteWilliams:

    Trump gave Charlie Sheen fake platinum and diamond cufflinks while claiming they were genuine Harry Winston products.

     https://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/charlie-sheen-claims-donald-trump-gave-him-fake-diamond-and-platinum-cufflinks-a7090346.html

    Harry Winston donated the Hope Diamond to the Smithsonian Institute.

    The more I investigate Trump, the more I am convinced he is a pathological liar.  If he was actually worth $10 billion like he laughably claims, he could easily afford authentic, expensive jewelry.

    He would also be able to afford to keep his campaign going....    Only $1.3 million to start June in the bank..... I'll bet he wishes he didn't spend over $200,000 in May on hats
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    Quote Originally Posted by DogbiteWilliams:

    Trump gave Charlie Sheen fake platinum and diamond cufflinks while claiming they were genuine Harry Winston products.

     https://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/charlie-sheen-claims-donald-trump-gave-him-fake-diamond-and-platinum-cufflinks-a7090346.html

    Harry Winston donated the Hope Diamond to the Smithsonian Institute.

    The more I investigate Trump, the more I am convinced he is a pathological liar.  If he was actually worth $10 billion like he laughably claims, he could easily afford authentic, expensive jewelry.

    He would also be able to afford to keep his campaign going....    Only $1.3 million to start June in the bank..... I'll bet he wishes he didn't spend over $200,000 in May on hats
     
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    Posted: Jun. 21, 2016 - 6:53 PM ET #24

    Quote Originally Posted by BWS77:


    He would also be able to afford to keep his campaign going....    Only $1.3 million to start June in the bank..... I'll bet he wishes he didn't spend over $200,000 in May on hats
    $200,000 for hats?

    No wonder his "campaign" is filled to the brim with financial problems.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BWS77:


    He would also be able to afford to keep his campaign going....    Only $1.3 million to start June in the bank..... I'll bet he wishes he didn't spend over $200,000 in May on hats
    $200,000 for hats?

    No wonder his "campaign" is filled to the brim with financial problems.
     
     
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    Posted: Jun. 23, 2016 - 2:46 PM ET #25

    That and the money he siphoned from his campaign for personal gain...

    I am glad we are getting to see what trump and his supporters are all
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    That and the money he siphoned from his campaign for personal gain...

    I am glad we are getting to see what trump and his supporters are all
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