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    nature1970
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    Posted: Feb. 12, 2017 - 4:27 AM ET #1

    https://www.cnn.com/2017/02/12/asia/north-korea-missile-launch-analysis/index.html

    https://www.northkoreatimes.com/index.php/sid/251655317

    Washington D.C. [U.S.], Feb. 12 (ANI): After Japan Prime Minister Shinzo Abe condemned the missile launched by North Korea, U.S. President Donald trump has re-instated his support for Japan, as reported by CNN.

    Earlier today, in a joint statement with President Trump that was released from the latter's Mar-a-Lago resort in Palm Beach, Florida, Prime Minister Abe expressed his dissent over the missile launch, deeming it to be 'absolutely intolerable'.

    Post this remark, President Trump reacted to the same, extending full support to Japan. "I just want everybody to understand and fully know that The United States of America is behind Japan, its great ally, 100 percent", assured Trump.

    According to South Korean military sources, North Korea fired a ballistic missile on Sunday, in what was termed as a 'show of force' against Donald Trump, as reported by The Guardian

    Hong Kong (CNN)Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe was thousands of miles away from home, but Kim Jong Un's message was loud and clear -- think twice before getting too cozy with the new US President.

    Abe, who is visiting the United States, and Japan were likely the main audience for North Korea's Sunday missile launch.
    "Considering the launch was immediately after the Japan-US summit meeting was held, this is a clear provocation to Japan and the region," Japanese Chief Cabinet Secretary Yoshihide Suga said.

    trump's response:
    In response, Trump tweeted: “North Korea just stated that it is in the final stages of developing a nuclear weapon capable of reaching parts of the U.S. It won’t happen

    china's response to trump's tweet

    China's foreign ministry did not immediately respond to a request for comment.
    feb 7th

    https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/chinas-rocket-force-holds-exercise-with-new-ballistic-missile-1656644

    jan 24th... already locked and loaded.

    China is wasting no time to project power in a world in which it believes Donald Trump's "America First" doctrine has created a "superpower vacuum."

    One day after a senior Chinese diplomat said on Monday that Beijing is prepared to "assume a role of world leadership if others step back from that position" after U.S. President Donald Trump pledged in his first speech to put “America first”, Beijing has reportedly deployed an advanced Dongfeng-41 ICBM system in Heilongjiang Province, which borders with Russia.


    russia's response pending but it will be found here first

    https://sputniknews.com/world/


    here we go.

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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.
    https://www.cnn.com/2017/02/12/asia/north-korea-missile-launch-analysis/index.html

    https://www.northkoreatimes.com/index.php/sid/251655317

    Washington D.C. [U.S.], Feb. 12 (ANI): After Japan Prime Minister Shinzo Abe condemned the missile launched by North Korea, U.S. President Donald trump has re-instated his support for Japan, as reported by CNN.

    Earlier today, in a joint statement with President Trump that was released from the latter's Mar-a-Lago resort in Palm Beach, Florida, Prime Minister Abe expressed his dissent over the missile launch, deeming it to be 'absolutely intolerable'.

    Post this remark, President Trump reacted to the same, extending full support to Japan. "I just want everybody to understand and fully know that The United States of America is behind Japan, its great ally, 100 percent", assured Trump.

    According to South Korean military sources, North Korea fired a ballistic missile on Sunday, in what was termed as a 'show of force' against Donald Trump, as reported by The Guardian

    Hong Kong (CNN)Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe was thousands of miles away from home, but Kim Jong Un's message was loud and clear -- think twice before getting too cozy with the new US President.

    Abe, who is visiting the United States, and Japan were likely the main audience for North Korea's Sunday missile launch.
    "Considering the launch was immediately after the Japan-US summit meeting was held, this is a clear provocation to Japan and the region," Japanese Chief Cabinet Secretary Yoshihide Suga said.

    trump's response:
    In response, Trump tweeted: “North Korea just stated that it is in the final stages of developing a nuclear weapon capable of reaching parts of the U.S. It won’t happen

    china's response to trump's tweet

    China's foreign ministry did not immediately respond to a request for comment.
    feb 7th

    https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/chinas-rocket-force-holds-exercise-with-new-ballistic-missile-1656644

    jan 24th... already locked and loaded.

    China is wasting no time to project power in a world in which it believes Donald Trump's "America First" doctrine has created a "superpower vacuum."

    One day after a senior Chinese diplomat said on Monday that Beijing is prepared to "assume a role of world leadership if others step back from that position" after U.S. President Donald Trump pledged in his first speech to put “America first”, Beijing has reportedly deployed an advanced Dongfeng-41 ICBM system in Heilongjiang Province, which borders with Russia.


    russia's response pending but it will be found here first

    https://sputniknews.com/world/


    here we go.

     
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    Posted: Feb. 12, 2017 - 4:43 AM ET #2

    the build up to this event
    feb 3

    The US Defence Secretary James Mattis has said any use of nuclear weapons by North Korea would be met with an "effective and overwhelming" response.

    source https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-38850995
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    the build up to this event
    feb 3

    The US Defence Secretary James Mattis has said any use of nuclear weapons by North Korea would be met with an "effective and overwhelming" response.

    source https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-38850995
     
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    Posted: Feb. 12, 2017 - 4:50 AM ET #3

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    Posted: Feb. 12, 2017 - 4:54 AM ET #4

    This ballistic missile test by North Korea might encourage Japan and South Korea to pay more to the US for their defense....as candidate Trump suggested they should..
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    This ballistic missile test by North Korea might encourage Japan and South Korea to pay more to the US for their defense....as candidate Trump suggested they should..
     
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    Posted: Feb. 12, 2017 - 5:01 AM ET #5

    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    This ballistic missile test by North Korea might encourage Japan and South Korea to pay more to the US for their defense....as candidate Trump suggested they should..

    South Korea, Japan , USA , NATO are planning the response.
    Russia has acknowledged officially the test occurred.

    China is still dark.

    TOKYO (Sputnik) — "Our government, in tandem with the international community, is doing its best to ensure a corresponding response to punish the North," Hwang Kyo-ahn said, as quoted by the Yonhap news agency.

    A ballistic missile was launched early Sunday from an airbase in the North Pyongan province. It travelled around 300 miles before plunging into the Sea of Japan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    This ballistic missile test by North Korea might encourage Japan and South Korea to pay more to the US for their defense....as candidate Trump suggested they should..

    South Korea, Japan , USA , NATO are planning the response.
    Russia has acknowledged officially the test occurred.

    China is still dark.

    TOKYO (Sputnik) — "Our government, in tandem with the international community, is doing its best to ensure a corresponding response to punish the North," Hwang Kyo-ahn said, as quoted by the Yonhap news agency.

    A ballistic missile was launched early Sunday from an airbase in the North Pyongan province. It travelled around 300 miles before plunging into the Sea of Japan.

     
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    Posted: Feb. 12, 2017 - 10:07 AM ET #6

    https://www.cnn.com/2017/02/09/politics/trump-xi-phone-call/index.html

    US President Donald Trump and his Chinese counterpart Xi Jinping spoke by phone Thursday evening, the first conversation between the two since Trump took office.

    In the call, the two leaders discussed "numerous topics," and Trump committed to honoring the "One China" policy at Xi's request, the White House said.

    China and USA are working on "other" issues.....

    take this grain of salt. source is very unreliable.

    The recent ballistic missile test conducted by Pyongyang could require new international consultations, including in the UN Security Council (UNSC), the chairman of the Russian lower house of parliament's international affairs committee, Leonid Slutsky, told Sputnik on Sunday.

    MOSCOW (Sputnik) — Earlier in the day, North Korea launched a ballistic missile from the country's North Pyongan province, which plunged into the Sea of Japan after flying some 310 miles.

    "I do not rule out that the recent events in North Korea will require new consultations of the international community, first of all within the framework of the UNSC," Slutsky said.

    He added North Korea challenged the international community by conducing the missile launch as such actions violate UNSC decisions

    This going to be decided at the UNSC ( United Nations Security Council) Russia's on board, USA on board China after what they got on the phone One China policy is on Board, England will be On board. guess makes France the deciding veto of the pending resolution might as well do this legally if possible

     if Bomb Pyong or more sanctions.

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    https://www.cnn.com/2017/02/09/politics/trump-xi-phone-call/index.html

    US President Donald Trump and his Chinese counterpart Xi Jinping spoke by phone Thursday evening, the first conversation between the two since Trump took office.

    In the call, the two leaders discussed "numerous topics," and Trump committed to honoring the "One China" policy at Xi's request, the White House said.

    China and USA are working on "other" issues.....

    take this grain of salt. source is very unreliable.

    The recent ballistic missile test conducted by Pyongyang could require new international consultations, including in the UN Security Council (UNSC), the chairman of the Russian lower house of parliament's international affairs committee, Leonid Slutsky, told Sputnik on Sunday.

    MOSCOW (Sputnik) — Earlier in the day, North Korea launched a ballistic missile from the country's North Pyongan province, which plunged into the Sea of Japan after flying some 310 miles.

    "I do not rule out that the recent events in North Korea will require new consultations of the international community, first of all within the framework of the UNSC," Slutsky said.

    He added North Korea challenged the international community by conducing the missile launch as such actions violate UNSC decisions

    This going to be decided at the UNSC ( United Nations Security Council) Russia's on board, USA on board China after what they got on the phone One China policy is on Board, England will be On board. guess makes France the deciding veto of the pending resolution might as well do this legally if possible

     if Bomb Pyong or more sanctions.

     
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    Posted: Feb. 12, 2017 - 11:00 AM ET #7

    The missile launch was quickly condemned by South Korea, as well as France, Russia and Italy.

    source https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/stephen-miller-us-bolster-allies-pacific-north-korea-hostile-missile-test-a7576216.html

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    The missile launch was quickly condemned by South Korea, as well as France, Russia and Italy.

    source https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/stephen-miller-us-bolster-allies-pacific-north-korea-hostile-missile-test-a7576216.html

     
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    Posted: Feb. 12, 2017 - 11:04 AM ET #8

    Counsellor YAO Shaojun - china has yet to officially weigh in on this issue.
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    Counsellor YAO Shaojun - china has yet to officially weigh in on this issue.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 12, 2017 - 11:51 AM ET #9

    After an emergency meeting at the UN headquarters in New York on Sunday, members of the Security Council accused North Korea of defying repeated warnings with an action that constitutes "a clear threat to international peace and security

    UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon said the launch was "deeply deplorable," carried out "despite the united plea of the international community against such an act."

    The denunciations were accompanied by other signals that the fallout in the region may go beyond diplomatic measures.

    The United States and South Korea signaled new interest in exploring the installation of a sophisticated US antimissile system - a step that Seoul previously had resisted under pressure from China.

    South Korean and US military officials said on Sunday that they had agreed to begin negotiations for the "earliest possible" deployment of the Terminal High Altitude Area Defense system that uses ground-based launchers to shoot down missiles.

    "North Korea continues to develop their nuclear weapons and ballistic missile programs, and it is the responsibility of our alliance to maintain a strong defense against those threats," General Curtis Scaparrotti, commander of US Forces Korea, said in a statement. "THAAD can add an important capability."

    Missile experts said the THAAD system is regarded as an effective defense against short- and medium-range missiles, meaning it could protect South Korea from attack but would be of little use against long-range strikes, such as a missile aimed at the United States.

    The renewed discussions of deploying the THAAD system reflect rising anxiety in South Korea, where leaders may be less inclined to comply with warnings from China or trust Beijing's assertions that it can keep North Korea in check.

    "It would appear that South Korea has had enough," said Thomas Karako, head of the Missile Defense Project at the Centre for Strategic and International Studies in Washington.

    South Korea's reluctance to allow the missile defense system "has everything to do with the politics and pressure that China has been putting on its southern neighbor," Mr Karako said. But the back-to-back nuclear test and satellite launch by the North is likely to drive the United States and South Korea "much closer together and further mute the effect of Chinese objections


    source Sidney Morning Herald.

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    After an emergency meeting at the UN headquarters in New York on Sunday, members of the Security Council accused North Korea of defying repeated warnings with an action that constitutes "a clear threat to international peace and security

    UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon said the launch was "deeply deplorable," carried out "despite the united plea of the international community against such an act."

    The denunciations were accompanied by other signals that the fallout in the region may go beyond diplomatic measures.

    The United States and South Korea signaled new interest in exploring the installation of a sophisticated US antimissile system - a step that Seoul previously had resisted under pressure from China.

    South Korean and US military officials said on Sunday that they had agreed to begin negotiations for the "earliest possible" deployment of the Terminal High Altitude Area Defense system that uses ground-based launchers to shoot down missiles.

    "North Korea continues to develop their nuclear weapons and ballistic missile programs, and it is the responsibility of our alliance to maintain a strong defense against those threats," General Curtis Scaparrotti, commander of US Forces Korea, said in a statement. "THAAD can add an important capability."

    Missile experts said the THAAD system is regarded as an effective defense against short- and medium-range missiles, meaning it could protect South Korea from attack but would be of little use against long-range strikes, such as a missile aimed at the United States.

    The renewed discussions of deploying the THAAD system reflect rising anxiety in South Korea, where leaders may be less inclined to comply with warnings from China or trust Beijing's assertions that it can keep North Korea in check.

    "It would appear that South Korea has had enough," said Thomas Karako, head of the Missile Defense Project at the Centre for Strategic and International Studies in Washington.

    South Korea's reluctance to allow the missile defense system "has everything to do with the politics and pressure that China has been putting on its southern neighbor," Mr Karako said. But the back-to-back nuclear test and satellite launch by the North is likely to drive the United States and South Korea "much closer together and further mute the effect of Chinese objections


    source Sidney Morning Herald.

     
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    Posted: Feb. 12, 2017 - 11:53 AM ET #10

    Quote Originally Posted by mjm1012:

    KIM 


    for those unfamiliar with Diplomatic Language of such matters

    they Just green lighted vaporize PONG YANG.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by mjm1012:

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    for those unfamiliar with Diplomatic Language of such matters

    they Just green lighted vaporize PONG YANG.....

     
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    Posted: Feb. 12, 2017 - 12:23 PM ET #11

    and it green lights deployment of the THAAD missle defense system on mainland ASIA.
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    and it green lights deployment of the THAAD missle defense system on mainland ASIA.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 12, 2017 - 2:09 PM ET #12

    should be interesting how all this plays out   
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    should be interesting how all this plays out   
     
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    Posted: Feb. 12, 2017 - 5:42 PM ET #13

    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    This ballistic missile test by North Korea might encourage Japan and South Korea to pay more to the US for their defense....as candidate Trump suggested they should..
    slim, if they do pay more who gets the money trump or the US?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    This ballistic missile test by North Korea might encourage Japan and South Korea to pay more to the US for their defense....as candidate Trump suggested they should..
    slim, if they do pay more who gets the money trump or the US?
     
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    Posted: Feb. 12, 2017 - 7:33 PM ET #14

    Quote Originally Posted by darkhorse12:

    slim, if they do pay more who gets the money trump or the US?
    Trump invested in defense companies ?
    Did Obama profit off the slaughter of Libyans and Syrians oh forgot it's okay when a Democrat starts something but bad if Republican is in power 
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    Quote Originally Posted by darkhorse12:

    slim, if they do pay more who gets the money trump or the US?
    Trump invested in defense companies ?
    Did Obama profit off the slaughter of Libyans and Syrians oh forgot it's okay when a Democrat starts something but bad if Republican is in power 
     
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    Posted: Feb. 12, 2017 - 7:37 PM ET #15

    Quote Originally Posted by darkhorse12:

    slim, if they do pay more who gets the money trump or the US?
    Darkhorse a Richard account been awhile Champ
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    Quote Originally Posted by darkhorse12:

    slim, if they do pay more who gets the money trump or the US?
    Darkhorse a Richard account been awhile Champ
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by gers:

    Darkhorse a Richard account been awhile Champ
    Gers, it has been a long time. But since trump is fleecing the govt everyday with extra security, NY and DC, golf outings at his course, the decision of proceeding along with the DAPL, which he has a vested interest in and I'm sure there are quite a few others just thought he'd find a way to profit off this also. You know never waste an opportunity get away. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by gers:

    Darkhorse a Richard account been awhile Champ
    Gers, it has been a long time. But since trump is fleecing the govt everyday with extra security, NY and DC, golf outings at his course, the decision of proceeding along with the DAPL, which he has a vested interest in and I'm sure there are quite a few others just thought he'd find a way to profit off this also. You know never waste an opportunity get away. 
     
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    Maybe in some weird way Donald Trump wants to negotiate a final resolution to the Korean war. Now with world condemnation Donald can negotiate a peaceful resolution to this Impending crises. offers a perfect platform. we can end hostilities in Korea Pennisula.
    this is the stupidity of Kim actually launching.

    he attacks south America vaporizes him.
    at the end of the day their will be No Koreans.
    Trump likes a leveraged position when negotiating deals.
    I believe both sides can negotiate a treaty to end hostilities.

    I have Hope that these sides can not want to genocide their race.
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    Maybe in some weird way Donald Trump wants to negotiate a final resolution to the Korean war. Now with world condemnation Donald can negotiate a peaceful resolution to this Impending crises. offers a perfect platform. we can end hostilities in Korea Pennisula.
    this is the stupidity of Kim actually launching.

    he attacks south America vaporizes him.
    at the end of the day their will be No Koreans.
    Trump likes a leveraged position when negotiating deals.
    I believe both sides can negotiate a treaty to end hostilities.

    I have Hope that these sides can not want to genocide their race.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by darkhorse12:

    Gers, it has been a long time. But since trump is fleecing the govt everyday with extra security, NY and DC, golf outings at his course, the decision of proceeding along with the DAPL, which he has a vested interest in and I'm sure there are quite a few others just thought he'd find a way to profit off this also. You know never waste an opportunity get away. 

    Mt Horse, you seem fairly intelligent. 
    At the very least, you have mastered the art of changing your av picture.

    Allow me to pose a question, please ...
    You seem to have knowledge that the President has a vested interest in the DAPL, even though it was widely reported that he previously sold his shares in the company involved in the pipeline process. 

    Please read this  ...
    https://www.snopes.com/does-donald-trump-own-a-stake-in-the-dakota-access-pipeline/

    Mr Horse, I will take a minute to point out the obvious ... Trump is a very wealthy man with business interests all over the world, in many different industries. By law, the POTUS must divest himself of many interests to avoid conflicts of interest. Now this action is nothing more than a legal paper trail, as anyone with common sense should understand that nothing is actually divested. The reality is that this is simply done to appease the lawmakers. This goes for the current POTUS, and EVERY SINGLE POTUS BEFORE HIM 

    Mr Horse, being that you are of respectable intelligence, and apparently well versed, I'm sure that you are aware that the POTUS has openly spoken out against and criticized some other companies in which he has investments. I believe this to be relative to your argument, albeit not in support of it.

    And finally to the question that I claimed I would pose a few paragraphs prior ...

    Mr Horse, we all understand that the POTUS has many, many varied financial interests around the world. Is it your suggestion that the POTUS never make a political decision on anything remotely involved with those industries/countries/citizens/governments, et al?

    Be forewarned that I will have a well reasoned response to your answer, which may upset some from your side of the aisle ... not because I'm going to start calling names, but because it will be difficult to dispute***

    ***DISCLAIMER; it will be difficult to dispute for anyone holding a modest degree of objectiveness. 
    Many here will dispute it 
    bigreds daddy
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    Quote Originally Posted by darkhorse12:

    Gers, it has been a long time. But since trump is fleecing the govt everyday with extra security, NY and DC, golf outings at his course, the decision of proceeding along with the DAPL, which he has a vested interest in and I'm sure there are quite a few others just thought he'd find a way to profit off this also. You know never waste an opportunity get away. 

    Mt Horse, you seem fairly intelligent. 
    At the very least, you have mastered the art of changing your av picture.

    Allow me to pose a question, please ...
    You seem to have knowledge that the President has a vested interest in the DAPL, even though it was widely reported that he previously sold his shares in the company involved in the pipeline process. 

    Please read this  ...
    https://www.snopes.com/does-donald-trump-own-a-stake-in-the-dakota-access-pipeline/

    Mr Horse, I will take a minute to point out the obvious ... Trump is a very wealthy man with business interests all over the world, in many different industries. By law, the POTUS must divest himself of many interests to avoid conflicts of interest. Now this action is nothing more than a legal paper trail, as anyone with common sense should understand that nothing is actually divested. The reality is that this is simply done to appease the lawmakers. This goes for the current POTUS, and EVERY SINGLE POTUS BEFORE HIM 

    Mr Horse, being that you are of respectable intelligence, and apparently well versed, I'm sure that you are aware that the POTUS has openly spoken out against and criticized some other companies in which he has investments. I believe this to be relative to your argument, albeit not in support of it.

    And finally to the question that I claimed I would pose a few paragraphs prior ...

    Mr Horse, we all understand that the POTUS has many, many varied financial interests around the world. Is it your suggestion that the POTUS never make a political decision on anything remotely involved with those industries/countries/citizens/governments, et al?

    Be forewarned that I will have a well reasoned response to your answer, which may upset some from your side of the aisle ... not because I'm going to start calling names, but because it will be difficult to dispute***

    ***DISCLAIMER; it will be difficult to dispute for anyone holding a modest degree of objectiveness. 
    Many here will dispute it 
     
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    Posted: Feb. 13, 2017 - 4:24 PM ET #19

    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh_Jorgan:


    Mt Horse, you seem fairly intelligent. 
    At the very least, you have mastered the art of changing your av picture.

    Allow me to pose a question, please ...
    You seem to have knowledge that the President has a vested interest in the DAPL, even though it was widely reported that he previously sold his shares in the company involved in the pipeline process. 

    Please read this  ...
    https://www.snopes.com/does-donald-trump-own-a-stake-in-the-dakota-access-pipeline/

    Mr Horse, I will take a minute to point out the obvious ... Trump is a very wealthy man with business interests all over the world, in many different industries. By law, the POTUS must divest himself of many interests to avoid conflicts of interest. Now this action is nothing more than a legal paper trail, as anyone with common sense should understand that nothing is actually divested. The reality is that this is simply done to appease the lawmakers. This goes for the current POTUS, and EVERY SINGLE POTUS BEFORE HIM 

    Mr Horse, being that you are of respectable intelligence, and apparently well versed, I'm sure that you are aware that the POTUS has openly spoken out against and criticized some other companies in which he has investments. I believe this to be relative to your argument, albeit not in support of it.

    And finally to the question that I claimed I would pose a few paragraphs prior ...

    Mr Horse, we all understand that the POTUS has many, many varied financial interests around the world. Is it your suggestion that the POTUS never make a political decision on anything remotely involved with those industries/countries/citizens/governments, et al?

    Be forewarned that I will have a well reasoned response to your answer, which may upset some from your side of the aisle ... not because I'm going to start calling names, but because it will be difficult to dispute***

    ***DISCLAIMER; it will be difficult to dispute for anyone holding a modest degree of objectiveness. 
    Many here will dispute it 

    you are correct, trump did not own stock in the DAPL at the time of the decision. He sold his investments in Energy Transfer Partners, DAPL owners, sometime between the summer of '16  and his inauguration. A sizable donation from one of the board members, Warren, probably had nothing to do with his decision though. 
         A president is not required to divest though but it is one way to quell conflict of interests lawsuits, By the way I don't believe trump has done anything to help himself and he has been in violation of the emoluments clause of the constitution since day one. Article 1 section 9.

    good article 
    https://www.forbes.com/sites/jenniferwang/2016/11/15/why-trump-wont-use-a-blind-trust-and-what-his-predecessors-did-with-their-assets/#3a1b0aaa7915
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh_Jorgan:


    Mt Horse, you seem fairly intelligent. 
    At the very least, you have mastered the art of changing your av picture.

    Allow me to pose a question, please ...
    You seem to have knowledge that the President has a vested interest in the DAPL, even though it was widely reported that he previously sold his shares in the company involved in the pipeline process. 

    Please read this  ...
    https://www.snopes.com/does-donald-trump-own-a-stake-in-the-dakota-access-pipeline/

    Mr Horse, I will take a minute to point out the obvious ... Trump is a very wealthy man with business interests all over the world, in many different industries. By law, the POTUS must divest himself of many interests to avoid conflicts of interest. Now this action is nothing more than a legal paper trail, as anyone with common sense should understand that nothing is actually divested. The reality is that this is simply done to appease the lawmakers. This goes for the current POTUS, and EVERY SINGLE POTUS BEFORE HIM 

    Mr Horse, being that you are of respectable intelligence, and apparently well versed, I'm sure that you are aware that the POTUS has openly spoken out against and criticized some other companies in which he has investments. I believe this to be relative to your argument, albeit not in support of it.

    And finally to the question that I claimed I would pose a few paragraphs prior ...

    Mr Horse, we all understand that the POTUS has many, many varied financial interests around the world. Is it your suggestion that the POTUS never make a political decision on anything remotely involved with those industries/countries/citizens/governments, et al?

    Be forewarned that I will have a well reasoned response to your answer, which may upset some from your side of the aisle ... not because I'm going to start calling names, but because it will be difficult to dispute***

    ***DISCLAIMER; it will be difficult to dispute for anyone holding a modest degree of objectiveness. 
    Many here will dispute it 

    you are correct, trump did not own stock in the DAPL at the time of the decision. He sold his investments in Energy Transfer Partners, DAPL owners, sometime between the summer of '16  and his inauguration. A sizable donation from one of the board members, Warren, probably had nothing to do with his decision though. 
         A president is not required to divest though but it is one way to quell conflict of interests lawsuits, By the way I don't believe trump has done anything to help himself and he has been in violation of the emoluments clause of the constitution since day one. Article 1 section 9.

    good article 
    https://www.forbes.com/sites/jenniferwang/2016/11/15/why-trump-wont-use-a-blind-trust-and-what-his-predecessors-did-with-their-assets/#3a1b0aaa7915
     
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    Posted: Feb. 13, 2017 - 9:08 PM ET #20

    "Trump needs to strategies in Dealing with North Korea" ,
    "Prime Minister Abe. praises Trump for his faith in him and his government."
    "missle Crisis in North Korea a direct action By Kim sun un to get Trumps attention he would like discuss , no easy way to stop north Korea

    45 minute official state media release on subjects of economy , politics, national events , weather. news broadcast . no commercials but you can hit pause if you need to be away.

    https://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/newsroomtokyo/

     
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    "Trump needs to strategies in Dealing with North Korea" ,
    "Prime Minister Abe. praises Trump for his faith in him and his government."
    "missle Crisis in North Korea a direct action By Kim sun un to get Trumps attention he would like discuss , no easy way to stop north Korea

    45 minute official state media release on subjects of economy , politics, national events , weather. news broadcast . no commercials but you can hit pause if you need to be away.

    https://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/newsroomtokyo/

     
     
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    Posted: Feb. 15, 2017 - 2:12 PM ET #21

    in my best samuel jackson voice 

    Trump on it he has a team of men trying to look into this conflict. He has some of his best men on the Job
    hhs g.h.w.bush is headed in the right direction he is sending his son in law and the ambassador to Israel to start talks of the position of the middle east.....
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    in my best samuel jackson voice 

    Trump on it he has a team of men trying to look into this conflict. He has some of his best men on the Job
    hhs g.h.w.bush is headed in the right direction he is sending his son in law and the ambassador to Israel to start talks of the position of the middle east.....
     
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    Posted: Feb. 16, 2017 - 7:31 PM ET #22

    Japan seems to posturing with a hard-line stance with the north.

    seems all the military exercises have been ended.

    my money still on that old Samaria in Tokyo
    pushes a way forward in the region.
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    Japan seems to posturing with a hard-line stance with the north.

    seems all the military exercises have been ended.

    my money still on that old Samaria in Tokyo
    pushes a way forward in the region.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 16, 2017 - 7:33 PM ET #23

    "best line of the day" , you can accomplish alot if you do not care who takes the credit. -Scott Pelley cbs evening news
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    "best line of the day" , you can accomplish alot if you do not care who takes the credit. -Scott Pelley cbs evening news
     
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    Posted: Feb. 18, 2017 - 8:12 PM ET #24

    Kim jun un sends diplomat to Iran

    North Korea says a close aide of the country's leader Kim Jong Un has left for Iran. It is one of the few countries maintaining friendly ties with the North.

    The state-run Korean Central News Agency reported on Saturday that Choe Thae Bok, vice chairman of the ruling Korean Workers' Party, will attend an international conference in Iran. The report also says Choe visited the North Korean embassy in Beijing when he made a stopover there.

    Choe served as the chairman of the Supreme People's Assembly. At the funeral of late leader Kim Jong Il in 2011, he accompanied Kim Jong Un walking along the car carrying the coffin.

    Observers say North Korea hopes to strengthen ties with its friendly nations with the international community increasing pressure following the North's nuclear and missile tests.

    source - https://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/en/news/20170219_03/
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    Kim jun un sends diplomat to Iran

    North Korea says a close aide of the country's leader Kim Jong Un has left for Iran. It is one of the few countries maintaining friendly ties with the North.

    The state-run Korean Central News Agency reported on Saturday that Choe Thae Bok, vice chairman of the ruling Korean Workers' Party, will attend an international conference in Iran. The report also says Choe visited the North Korean embassy in Beijing when he made a stopover there.

    Choe served as the chairman of the Supreme People's Assembly. At the funeral of late leader Kim Jong Il in 2011, he accompanied Kim Jong Un walking along the car carrying the coffin.

    Observers say North Korea hopes to strengthen ties with its friendly nations with the international community increasing pressure following the North's nuclear and missile tests.

    source - https://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/en/news/20170219_03/
     
     
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    Posted: Feb. 19, 2017 - 1:05 AM ET #25

    A group of US lawmakers is seeking to return North Korea to the list of states that sponsor terrorism and give it once again the less-than-honorable title of terrorist state. US President George W. Bush took North Korea off the list some nine years ago in order to support talks about North Korea's nuclear program and to offer sanctions relief in exchange for North Korean concessions. Now, according to the lawmakers, the alleged assassination of Kim Jong Nam shows that North Korea is practicing state terrorism. The lawmakers are not short on aggressive rhetoric

    -sputnik
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    A group of US lawmakers is seeking to return North Korea to the list of states that sponsor terrorism and give it once again the less-than-honorable title of terrorist state. US President George W. Bush took North Korea off the list some nine years ago in order to support talks about North Korea's nuclear program and to offer sanctions relief in exchange for North Korean concessions. Now, according to the lawmakers, the alleged assassination of Kim Jong Nam shows that North Korea is practicing state terrorism. The lawmakers are not short on aggressive rhetoric

    -sputnik
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