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    darkhorse12
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    Posted: Aug. 22, 2016 - 6:26 PM ET #1

    article where a county govt official posted on their official county social media page , red circle with a slash through it over a pic of a mosque and No Islam meme. Appears quite the sh it storm has erupted. Several news outlets and an Islamic group in DC has picked up on it.

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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.

    article where a county govt official posted on their official county social media page , red circle with a slash through it over a pic of a mosque and No Islam meme. Appears quite the sh it storm has erupted. Several news outlets and an Islamic group in DC has picked up on it.

     
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    Posted: Aug. 22, 2016 - 6:29 PM ET #2

    Was just wondering what some of the consequences could be? Maybe some of the smarter posters like DJ ,DL, BWS and Club Dirt could shed some light on this.
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    Was just wondering what some of the consequences could be? Maybe some of the smarter posters like DJ ,DL, BWS and Club Dirt could shed some light on this.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 22, 2016 - 6:51 PM ET #3

    Google her Twitter page....   all you need to know is right there.    
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    Google her Twitter page....   all you need to know is right there.    
     
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    Posted: Aug. 22, 2016 - 7:00 PM ET #4

    [Politics] Topic: JUST SAW AN INTERESTING.....................


    Click baiting..........
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    [Politics] Topic: JUST SAW AN INTERESTING.....................


    Click baiting..........
     
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    Posted: Aug. 22, 2016 - 7:16 PM ET #5

    Feel free to post slim.
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    Feel free to post slim.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 22, 2016 - 7:36 PM ET #6

    We have freedom of speech and freedom of religion.

    Nobody should ever abuse one to attack the other.
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    We have freedom of speech and freedom of religion.

    Nobody should ever abuse one to attack the other.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 22, 2016 - 7:50 PM ET #7

    But not everyone believes in freedom of speech and freedom of religion and there have always been those who's life purpose has been to destory it and fuse church and state into one entity. 

    Seems wrong for some government to be doing this.  They are truly the enemy from with in trying destroy America.

    I'm not sure why some people are so hellbent on destroying America and the American way. 
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    But not everyone believes in freedom of speech and freedom of religion and there have always been those who's life purpose has been to destory it and fuse church and state into one entity. 

    Seems wrong for some government to be doing this.  They are truly the enemy from with in trying destroy America.

    I'm not sure why some people are so hellbent on destroying America and the American way. 
     
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    Posted: Aug. 22, 2016 - 7:58 PM ET #8

    Quote Originally Posted by BWS77:

    Google her Twitter page....   all you need to know is right there.    

    Can give us a link? 
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    Quote Originally Posted by BWS77:

    Google her Twitter page....   all you need to know is right there.    

    Can give us a link? 
     
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    Posted: Aug. 22, 2016 - 8:17 PM ET #9

    https://local21news.com/
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    https://local21news.com/
     
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    Posted: Aug. 22, 2016 - 8:35 PM ET #10

    Quote Originally Posted by dl36:


    Can give us a link? 

    Google Lisa Nancollas....   I know we can't post Twitter accounts here
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    Quote Originally Posted by dl36:


    Can give us a link? 

    Google Lisa Nancollas....   I know we can't post Twitter accounts here
     
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    Posted: Aug. 22, 2016 - 9:17 PM ET #11

    Quote Originally Posted by BWS77:


    Google Lisa Nancollas....   I know we can't post Twitter accounts here

    Good point.  It makes sense that Twitter accounts or social media wouldn't be allowed. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by BWS77:


    Google Lisa Nancollas....   I know we can't post Twitter accounts here

    Good point.  It makes sense that Twitter accounts or social media wouldn't be allowed. 
     
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    Posted: Aug. 22, 2016 - 9:17 PM ET #12

    Quote Originally Posted by darkhorse12:

    Feel free to post slim.


    Thank you,,Darkhorse I will ... ,,,but you will never see me using Click bait....
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    Quote Originally Posted by darkhorse12:

    Feel free to post slim.


    Thank you,,Darkhorse I will ... ,,,but you will never see me using Click bait....
     
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    Posted: Aug. 22, 2016 - 9:22 PM ET #13

    Why call his thread click bait just to take a jab at events that you don't like?  How does that promote intelligent discussion? 

    I guess I like how people are so tolerant of your antics.  Tolerance for antics like this seem like a good thing to me 
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    Why call his thread click bait just to take a jab at events that you don't like?  How does that promote intelligent discussion? 

    I guess I like how people are so tolerant of your antics.  Tolerance for antics like this seem like a good thing to me 
     
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    Posted: Aug. 22, 2016 - 9:29 PM ET #14

    Quote Originally Posted by darkhorse12:

    https://local21news.com/

    Thanks, this gave me a good idea of the story and her moronic apology letter.  Really shows the lack of remorse and the paradigm that she is the victim rather than being able to take personal responsibility and accountability for her actions. 

    You mentioned me earlier and honestly if this were her own person Facebook page that is one thing.  But the fact that she uses this professionally and calls herself by her professional title is the problem. You would think someone in government would be smarter than this in that it is not a place for her political, emotional and bigoted opinions. 

    Like would she encourage a subordinate to do the same thing? I guess you never know with someone like this and it would depend if they were in agreement with her 
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    Quote Originally Posted by darkhorse12:

    https://local21news.com/

    Thanks, this gave me a good idea of the story and her moronic apology letter.  Really shows the lack of remorse and the paradigm that she is the victim rather than being able to take personal responsibility and accountability for her actions. 

    You mentioned me earlier and honestly if this were her own person Facebook page that is one thing.  But the fact that she uses this professionally and calls herself by her professional title is the problem. You would think someone in government would be smarter than this in that it is not a place for her political, emotional and bigoted opinions. 

    Like would she encourage a subordinate to do the same thing? I guess you never know with someone like this and it would depend if they were in agreement with her 
     
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    Posted: Aug. 22, 2016 - 10:03 PM ET #15

    click baiting is a term used to describe a type of headlines that compel your visitors to click that entices a visitor to click to continue reading an article..

    e.g .JUST SAW AN INTERESTING.....................

    Interesting what ?      What's so interesting ?  I guess I'll  have to click on the Thread to find out ............click baiting..

    You draw audience interest–you actually get clicks/views with nothing more than just a creative way of spinning what could be a mundane topic......

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    click baiting is a term used to describe a type of headlines that compel your visitors to click that entices a visitor to click to continue reading an article..

    e.g .JUST SAW AN INTERESTING.....................

    Interesting what ?      What's so interesting ?  I guess I'll  have to click on the Thread to find out ............click baiting..

    You draw audience interest–you actually get clicks/views with nothing more than just a creative way of spinning what could be a mundane topic......

     
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    Posted: Aug. 22, 2016 - 10:14 PM ET #16

    Not my website slim. I don't get paid for clicks. If you have an issue with covers I suggest you pm them.
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    Not my website slim. I don't get paid for clicks. If you have an issue with covers I suggest you pm them.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 23, 2016 - 10:15 AM ET #17

    i would say it's not illegal because you generally need a specific threat directed at a specific person or group of people for something like that to be illegal. 

    what can they do about it?  there probably is some way to have an elected official removed if the conduct is bad enough but that might involve a petition and a new election or the governor stepping in.  most likely neither will happen.

    realistically, all you can do is expose this person for being a friggin moron and hope the idiots in the county that elected her vote her out.

    also, for people who thought "religious freedom" was just about hating the gays, rest assured that it can also be about discriminating against muslims.
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    i would say it's not illegal because you generally need a specific threat directed at a specific person or group of people for something like that to be illegal. 

    what can they do about it?  there probably is some way to have an elected official removed if the conduct is bad enough but that might involve a petition and a new election or the governor stepping in.  most likely neither will happen.

    realistically, all you can do is expose this person for being a friggin moron and hope the idiots in the county that elected her vote her out.

    also, for people who thought "religious freedom" was just about hating the gays, rest assured that it can also be about discriminating against muslims.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 23, 2016 - 10:41 AM ET #18

    Quote Originally Posted by darkhorse12:

    article where a county govt official posted on their official county social media page , red circle with a slash through it over a pic of a mosque and No Islam meme. Appears quite the sh it storm has erupted. Several news outlets and an Islamic group in DC has picked up on it.


    Some irrelevant dimwit has an issue with Islam, and this is somehow news???

    I do not agree with her opinion regarding Islam, but she is entitled to it.

    Too many people act as if they champion the right of free speech, until they don't agree with what the free speecher says.

    The media has done a fine job of shaping how people think, and what they think is important.
    Anti-Muslim ... bad!
    Anti-religion ... good!
    Fox News ... bad!
    MSNBC ... good!
    Using the N word ... bad!
    Black Lives Matter ... good!
    Trump ... bad!
    HRC ... good!
    Police aggression towards blacks ... bad!
    Black on black crime ... let's not report on this!

    bigreds daddy
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    Quote Originally Posted by darkhorse12:

    article where a county govt official posted on their official county social media page , red circle with a slash through it over a pic of a mosque and No Islam meme. Appears quite the sh it storm has erupted. Several news outlets and an Islamic group in DC has picked up on it.


    Some irrelevant dimwit has an issue with Islam, and this is somehow news???

    I do not agree with her opinion regarding Islam, but she is entitled to it.

    Too many people act as if they champion the right of free speech, until they don't agree with what the free speecher says.

    The media has done a fine job of shaping how people think, and what they think is important.
    Anti-Muslim ... bad!
    Anti-religion ... good!
    Fox News ... bad!
    MSNBC ... good!
    Using the N word ... bad!
    Black Lives Matter ... good!
    Trump ... bad!
    HRC ... good!
    Police aggression towards blacks ... bad!
    Black on black crime ... let's not report on this!

     
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    Posted: Aug. 23, 2016 - 12:05 PM ET #19

    i think HJS and i are essentially saying the same thing.  she does havea  right to free speech, although i'm not sure she has a right to free speech using a county facebook account which means the government probably could take action by taking whatever steps they have to remove people in her position assuming there is some county rule or policy that she violated.  had she done it using a purely private account, i think it would be a free speech issue. 
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    i think HJS and i are essentially saying the same thing.  she does havea  right to free speech, although i'm not sure she has a right to free speech using a county facebook account which means the government probably could take action by taking whatever steps they have to remove people in her position assuming there is some county rule or policy that she violated.  had she done it using a purely private account, i think it would be a free speech issue. 
     
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    Posted: Aug. 23, 2016 - 1:02 PM ET #20

    Yes this is the issue.  It is not about her views against freedom of religion and her being against the first Ammendment and consistution.  She can be as unamerican and against the American way as she wants. 

    The issue is using her Facebook page with her official government title and that has history of being used in a professional capacity. 

    This is not about her views but rather the inappropriate use of technology in a government role.  You would think Hillary email tantrum throwers would grasp this concept of inappropriate use in the role of s government official
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    Yes this is the issue.  It is not about her views against freedom of religion and her being against the first Ammendment and consistution.  She can be as unamerican and against the American way as she wants. 

    The issue is using her Facebook page with her official government title and that has history of being used in a professional capacity. 

    This is not about her views but rather the inappropriate use of technology in a government role.  You would think Hillary email tantrum throwers would grasp this concept of inappropriate use in the role of s government official
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by darkhorse12:

    Not my website slim. I don't get paid for clicks. If you have an issue with covers I suggest you pm them.

    Yes no need clutter the forum with these types of antics and games just to take a jab at the OP. 

    I don't get why the forum and those in charge want it to be like this. But I guess if that is their intention they are suceeding.   
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    Quote Originally Posted by darkhorse12:

    Not my website slim. I don't get paid for clicks. If you have an issue with covers I suggest you pm them.

    Yes no need clutter the forum with these types of antics and games just to take a jab at the OP. 

    I don't get why the forum and those in charge want it to be like this. But I guess if that is their intention they are suceeding.   
     
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    Posted: Aug. 23, 2016 - 4:31 PM ET #22

    Quote Originally Posted by darkhorse12:

    Was just wondering what some of the consequences could be? Maybe some of the smarter posters like DJ ,DL, BWS and Club Dirt could shed some light on this.


    Note: OP baited and set the stage for a poke, with the above post..in post #2

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    Quote Originally Posted by darkhorse12:

    Was just wondering what some of the consequences could be? Maybe some of the smarter posters like DJ ,DL, BWS and Club Dirt could shed some light on this.


    Note: OP baited and set the stage for a poke, with the above post..in post #2

     
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    Posted: Aug. 23, 2016 - 4:38 PM ET #23

    As one of the smarter posters I gave my opinion as did others.  Please drop these antics and games trying to derail the convo and make unecesary jabs at the OP.  I get it that you have been allowed to play these games to detract from threads and the forum and that the site a people in charge want it to be like this and for you to continue these antics and games but perhaps you will see that what you are doing is not making a positive contribution to the community and change your ways. 

    But since those in charge want these types and games and antics from you as what they desire my guess is you will make more posts about the poster and not the topic and continue your ways, unable to change. 
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    As one of the smarter posters I gave my opinion as did others.  Please drop these antics and games trying to derail the convo and make unecesary jabs at the OP.  I get it that you have been allowed to play these games to detract from threads and the forum and that the site a people in charge want it to be like this and for you to continue these antics and games but perhaps you will see that what you are doing is not making a positive contribution to the community and change your ways. 

    But since those in charge want these types and games and antics from you as what they desire my guess is you will make more posts about the poster and not the topic and continue your ways, unable to change. 
     
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    Posted: Aug. 23, 2016 - 8:11 PM ET #24

    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:



    Note: OP baited and set the stage for a poke, with the above post..in post #2

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:



    Note: OP baited and set the stage for a poke, with the above post..in post #2

     

     
     
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    Posted: Aug. 23, 2016 - 8:29 PM ET #25

    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh_Jorgan:


    Some irrelevant dimwit has an issue with Islam, and this is somehow news???

    I do not agree with her opinion regarding Islam, but she is entitled to it.

    Too many people act as if they champion the right of free speech, until they don't agree with what the free speecher says.

    The media has done a fine job of shaping how people think, and what they think is important.
    Anti-Muslim ... bad!
    Anti-religion ... good!
    Fox News ... bad!
    MSNBC ... good!
    Using the N word ... bad!
    Black Lives Matter ... good!
    Trump ... bad!
    HRC ... good!
    Police aggression towards blacks ... bad!
    Black on black crime ... let's not report on this!

    Hugh, here is what the problem is. As a county commissioner she took an oath of office which includes upholding the constitution. She had two pages on fb 1 was personal the other was her official page as county commissioner. She chose to post her anti Islam rhetoric on her official page. So with her post she violated her oath. She can be impeached or the governor could just remove her. If it would have been posted on her personal page she would have been ok.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh_Jorgan:


    Some irrelevant dimwit has an issue with Islam, and this is somehow news???

    I do not agree with her opinion regarding Islam, but she is entitled to it.

    Too many people act as if they champion the right of free speech, until they don't agree with what the free speecher says.

    The media has done a fine job of shaping how people think, and what they think is important.
    Anti-Muslim ... bad!
    Anti-religion ... good!
    Fox News ... bad!
    MSNBC ... good!
    Using the N word ... bad!
    Black Lives Matter ... good!
    Trump ... bad!
    HRC ... good!
    Police aggression towards blacks ... bad!
    Black on black crime ... let's not report on this!

    Hugh, here is what the problem is. As a county commissioner she took an oath of office which includes upholding the constitution. She had two pages on fb 1 was personal the other was her official page as county commissioner. She chose to post her anti Islam rhetoric on her official page. So with her post she violated her oath. She can be impeached or the governor could just remove her. If it would have been posted on her personal page she would have been ok.

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