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    It’s amazing how the tail on the right is wagging the dog !

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    joe pockets
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    Posted: Jun. 23, 2023 - 10:21 AM ET #1

    Thats because the tail is really huge compared to the rest of the dog. Looking back it sticks out like a second nose that the GOP and its media propaganda outlets have for decades been deliberately encouraging their voters to be less informed, less openminded, less self-critical, more guidable about Party-line rhetoric, and more paranoid and distrustful of any other viewpoints. That has now reached a point where a large number of their supporters are simply no longer functionally capable of rational thought, And they really have only themselves to blame.
    With Trump and DeSantis leading their sorry group of underwhelming contenders I honestly at this point have little hope that they can resurrect their position as a viable counterweight in are two arm form of democracy! Over the last ten years I have increasingly lost respect for the  so-called moderates in the Republican party as they have condemned there party and the country to not only the worst person to ever become president, but also enable him to this day. At this point any attempt to take the party back to its moniker “ Grand Old Party “ Is like to trying to get back into the plane after the parachute fails. 

     

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    Thats because the tail is really huge compared to the rest of the dog. Looking back it sticks out like a second nose that the GOP and its media propaganda outlets have for decades been deliberately encouraging their voters to be less informed, less openminded, less self-critical, more guidable about Party-line rhetoric, and more paranoid and distrustful of any other viewpoints. That has now reached a point where a large number of their supporters are simply no longer functionally capable of rational thought, And they really have only themselves to blame.
    With Trump and DeSantis leading their sorry group of underwhelming contenders I honestly at this point have little hope that they can resurrect their position as a viable counterweight in are two arm form of democracy! Over the last ten years I have increasingly lost respect for the  so-called moderates in the Republican party as they have condemned there party and the country to not only the worst person to ever become president, but also enable him to this day. At this point any attempt to take the party back to its moniker “ Grand Old Party “ Is like to trying to get back into the plane after the parachute fails. 

     

     
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    Posted: Jun. 23, 2023 - 10:37 AM ET #2

    I like that you have an opinion joe peace_5

    and that you’re willing to talk about it peace_5

    respect peace_5

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    I like that you have an opinion joe peace_5

    and that you’re willing to talk about it peace_5

    respect peace_5

     
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    Posted: Jun. 23, 2023 - 1:12 PM ET #3

    Quote Originally Posted by spockgato:

    I like that you have an opinion joe  and that you’re willing to talk about it  respect

    Why thank you !    thumbs_up

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    Quote Originally Posted by spockgato:

    I like that you have an opinion joe  and that you’re willing to talk about it  respect

    Why thank you !    thumbs_up

     
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    Posted: Jun. 23, 2023 - 1:23 PM ET #4

    Is that the GOP that started a huge war in Iraq that killed so many Americans for nothing ?  Nah.  We don't need that.   Even Trump has more common sense than Bush or Obama.  Which isn't saying much.  

     

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    Is that the GOP that started a huge war in Iraq that killed so many Americans for nothing ?  Nah.  We don't need that.   Even Trump has more common sense than Bush or Obama.  Which isn't saying much.  

     

     
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    Posted: Jun. 23, 2023 - 2:27 PM ET #5

    Quote Originally Posted by joe pockets:

    ... the GOP and its media propaganda outlets have for decades been deliberately encouraging their voters to be less informed, less open-minded, less self-critical, more guidable about Party-line rhetoric, plus more paranoid and distrustful of any other viewpoints. That has now reached a point where a large number of their supporters are simply no longer functionally capable of rational thought.

           @joe pockets 

    an_worship

    Conservatism, [ie, the overwhelming majority of the Republican party, though not all] by it's very nature, leads to following those negative, self-defeating precepts, which indirectly as well as directly creates significant problems for all of society, as we are witness to today, especially "less informed" and "less open-minded."  an_beatup

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by joe pockets:

    ... the GOP and its media propaganda outlets have for decades been deliberately encouraging their voters to be less informed, less open-minded, less self-critical, more guidable about Party-line rhetoric, plus more paranoid and distrustful of any other viewpoints. That has now reached a point where a large number of their supporters are simply no longer functionally capable of rational thought.

           @joe pockets 

    an_worship

    Conservatism, [ie, the overwhelming majority of the Republican party, though not all] by it's very nature, leads to following those negative, self-defeating precepts, which indirectly as well as directly creates significant problems for all of society, as we are witness to today, especially "less informed" and "less open-minded."  an_beatup

     

     

     
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    Posted: Jun. 23, 2023 - 2:54 PM ET #6

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     No problem good sir peace_5

    I only wish that others would follow your sterling example peace_5

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    @joe pockets

     No problem good sir peace_5

    I only wish that others would follow your sterling example peace_5

     
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    Posted: Jun. 23, 2023 - 3:02 PM ET #7

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by joe pockets: ... the GOP and its media propaganda outlets have for decades been deliberately encouraging their voters to be less informed, less open-minded, less self-critical, more guidable about Party-line rhetoric, plus more paranoid and distrustful of any other viewpoints. That has now reached a point where a large number of their supporters are simply no longer functionally capable of rational thought.       

           @joe pockets 

    an_worship

    Conservatism, [ie, the overwhelming majority of the Republican party, though not all] by it's very nature, leads to following those negative, self-defeating precepts, which indirectly as well as directly creates significant problems for all of society, as we are witness to today, especially "less informed" and "less open-minded."

     

    insidious         but unfortunate             for all

     

     

     

     

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by joe pockets: ... the GOP and its media propaganda outlets have for decades been deliberately encouraging their voters to be less informed, less open-minded, less self-critical, more guidable about Party-line rhetoric, plus more paranoid and distrustful of any other viewpoints. That has now reached a point where a large number of their supporters are simply no longer functionally capable of rational thought.       

           @joe pockets 

    an_worship

    Conservatism, [ie, the overwhelming majority of the Republican party, though not all] by it's very nature, leads to following those negative, self-defeating precepts, which indirectly as well as directly creates significant problems for all of society, as we are witness to today, especially "less informed" and "less open-minded."

     

    insidious         but unfortunate             for all

     

     

     

     

     

     

     
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    Posted: Jun. 23, 2023 - 3:09 PM ET #8

    You’ve got them Bowing down to you joe peace_5

    now if they could only follow your lead and open up peace_5

    you are our Moses peace_5

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    You’ve got them Bowing down to you joe peace_5

    now if they could only follow your lead and open up peace_5

    you are our Moses peace_5

     
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    Posted: Jun. 23, 2023 - 3:15 PM ET #9

    You talk like the left is so great...the problem is everyone has not realized that parties are the problem and in reality each citizen would agree with some issues from the left and some issue from the right....it's like religion....not one person could hold true the entire faith...just look at catholics....the largest or one of the largest religious based groups in the entire planet and yet there are probably no catholics that are devoted to all the causes that they represent...it's just not possible....if it were then why are you allowed to confess your sins and be forgiven???? a true devoted catholic would not stray from the word of the church or risk be denounced....

     

    Just because you can choose a party to align with doesn't mean anyone should be naive enough to think that one is better than the other...they are people first and so often with people they disappoint....it's part of life....so in reality your praising the left is no better than anyone praising the right...they both have issues and there is no way that a Republican or Democratic is devoted enough to follow or agree with what either says...just reference the religious point above...they are all just a human party and you can learn from both just like how you can find values in each religion and it's sub-religions....

     

    Good luck cause most of you need it with how slanted your viewpoints really are...some are utterly obsessed with picking and thinking they truly follow a political line...you do not 100% follow a political line and its viewpoints....no way no how....be human 

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    You talk like the left is so great...the problem is everyone has not realized that parties are the problem and in reality each citizen would agree with some issues from the left and some issue from the right....it's like religion....not one person could hold true the entire faith...just look at catholics....the largest or one of the largest religious based groups in the entire planet and yet there are probably no catholics that are devoted to all the causes that they represent...it's just not possible....if it were then why are you allowed to confess your sins and be forgiven???? a true devoted catholic would not stray from the word of the church or risk be denounced....

     

    Just because you can choose a party to align with doesn't mean anyone should be naive enough to think that one is better than the other...they are people first and so often with people they disappoint....it's part of life....so in reality your praising the left is no better than anyone praising the right...they both have issues and there is no way that a Republican or Democratic is devoted enough to follow or agree with what either says...just reference the religious point above...they are all just a human party and you can learn from both just like how you can find values in each religion and it's sub-religions....

     

    Good luck cause most of you need it with how slanted your viewpoints really are...some are utterly obsessed with picking and thinking they truly follow a political line...you do not 100% follow a political line and its viewpoints....no way no how....be human 

     
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    Posted: Jun. 23, 2023 - 3:15 PM ET #10

    Quote Originally Posted by joe pockets:

      that the GOP has now reached a point where a large number of their supporters are simply no longer functionally capable of rational thought, And they really have only themselves to blame.

    @joe pockets

    Most of the MAGAs for sure!....but not all 100% of the GOP of course.....though as you correctly point out it is "a large number"

    peace_5

     

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by joe pockets:

      that the GOP has now reached a point where a large number of their supporters are simply no longer functionally capable of rational thought, And they really have only themselves to blame.

    @joe pockets

    Most of the MAGAs for sure!....but not all 100% of the GOP of course.....though as you correctly point out it is "a large number"

    peace_5

     

     

     

     
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    Posted: Jun. 23, 2023 - 3:37 PM ET #11

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    Presidents & Generals in recent times both love credit for victory on their watch! But will throw each other under the bus at the first sign of defeat with blame! 

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    @lovethedough

    Presidents & Generals in recent times both love credit for victory on their watch! But will throw each other under the bus at the first sign of defeat with blame! 

     
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     You make too much sense so they have to ignore you. 

    And nice post.

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    @ABooksNightmare

     

     You make too much sense so they have to ignore you. 

    And nice post.

     
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    Sense > cents

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    Sense > cents

     
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    Posted: Jun. 23, 2023 - 3:55 PM ET #14

    Ukraine war...  It all makes perfect sense, expressed in dollars and cents, pounds, shillings and pence.  

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    Ukraine war...  It all makes perfect sense, expressed in dollars and cents, pounds, shillings and pence.  

     
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    Posted: Jun. 23, 2023 - 3:56 PM ET #15

    [Quote: Originally Posted by fubah2]Quote Originally Posted by joe pockets:   that the GOP has now reached a point where a large number of their supporters are simply no longer functionally capable of rational thought, And they really have only themselves to blame.

     

    @joe pockets Most of the MAGAs for sure!....but not all 100% of the GOP of course.....though as you correctly point out it is "a large number"[/Quote

     

    @joe pockets  peace_5

    @fubah2 peace_5

    " You make too much sense so they have to ignore you. 

    And nice post. " 

     

     

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    [Quote: Originally Posted by fubah2]Quote Originally Posted by joe pockets:   that the GOP has now reached a point where a large number of their supporters are simply no longer functionally capable of rational thought, And they really have only themselves to blame.

     

    @joe pockets Most of the MAGAs for sure!....but not all 100% of the GOP of course.....though as you correctly point out it is "a large number"[/Quote

     

    @joe pockets  peace_5

    @fubah2 peace_5

    " You make too much sense so they have to ignore you. 

    And nice post. " 

     

     

     
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    Posted: Jun. 23, 2023 - 3:57 PM ET #16

    GOP and its media propaganda outlets 

     

     

    sarcasim

    Funny, I remember those "propaganda" outlets saying Trump didn't collude with Russia. HA! That's not what Schiff said and he is on the Intellegence Committee!! And they said there was a good chance the virus came from a lab. Were they stupid or what? Tin foil hatters! Then they said Hunter's laptop was real when twitter, facebook, youtube, etc, cancelled that bullshit. Tin foil hat conspriacy again, right fellas? And then you had those saying the vaccine was not as effective as advertised. Whats wrong with these idiots, Joe said get vacinnated and you won't even get COVID. Good enough, right?

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    GOP and its media propaganda outlets 

     

     

    sarcasim

    Funny, I remember those "propaganda" outlets saying Trump didn't collude with Russia. HA! That's not what Schiff said and he is on the Intellegence Committee!! And they said there was a good chance the virus came from a lab. Were they stupid or what? Tin foil hatters! Then they said Hunter's laptop was real when twitter, facebook, youtube, etc, cancelled that bullshit. Tin foil hat conspriacy again, right fellas? And then you had those saying the vaccine was not as effective as advertised. Whats wrong with these idiots, Joe said get vacinnated and you won't even get COVID. Good enough, right?

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2

    Quote Originally Posted by joe pockets:   that the GOP has now reached a point where a large number of their supporters are simply no longer functionally capable of rational thought, And they really have only themselves to blame.  

     

    @joe pockets Most of the MAGAs for sure!....but not all 100% of the GOP of course.....though as you correctly point out it is "a large number"

       

    @joe pockets   peace_5

    @fubah2  peace_5

    " You make too much sense so they have to ignore you.  And nice post. "

    an_clap    

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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2

    Quote Originally Posted by joe pockets:   that the GOP has now reached a point where a large number of their supporters are simply no longer functionally capable of rational thought, And they really have only themselves to blame.  

     

    @joe pockets Most of the MAGAs for sure!....but not all 100% of the GOP of course.....though as you correctly point out it is "a large number"

       

    @joe pockets   peace_5

    @fubah2  peace_5

    " You make too much sense so they have to ignore you.  And nice post. "

    an_clap    

     
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     I agree Democrats have their faults and certainly do make mistakes from time to time, but they try to learn from them to make better decisions in the future. Yet the vast majority of todays Republicans refuse to admit mistakes, and insist that it is reality that has it wrong. But reality is Republicans don’t give a shit about the less fortunate in this country, and Democrats do. Republicans want tax cuts for the rich, Democrats want them to pay. Republicans are overwhelmingly White, and Democrats are diverse. 
    It’s undeniable that Democrats tend to base their policies on reality, garnering opinions and ideas from experts and scientists. Republicans tend to base their policies on gut feelings and beliefs, rejecting experts and scientist who disagree with them.

    So yes both parties have their faults!But today is not the genuine conservative agenda any longer, being conservative in this day and age consists of: 1..Lowering taxes, especially at the top of the income and wealth scale 2….Being tough and independent minded avoid science while relying upon your own ‘horse’ sense. 3…..Owning the Libs by opposing everything they attempt if it makes sense or not. So that said at this moment I’ll choose the Democrats there valuing science,opinion & ideas with diversity over the Republicans and the use of good old fashion “HORSE sense” & ivermectin!,,,,,Jmho

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    @ABooksNightmare

     I agree Democrats have their faults and certainly do make mistakes from time to time, but they try to learn from them to make better decisions in the future. Yet the vast majority of todays Republicans refuse to admit mistakes, and insist that it is reality that has it wrong. But reality is Republicans don’t give a shit about the less fortunate in this country, and Democrats do. Republicans want tax cuts for the rich, Democrats want them to pay. Republicans are overwhelmingly White, and Democrats are diverse. 
    It’s undeniable that Democrats tend to base their policies on reality, garnering opinions and ideas from experts and scientists. Republicans tend to base their policies on gut feelings and beliefs, rejecting experts and scientist who disagree with them.

    So yes both parties have their faults!But today is not the genuine conservative agenda any longer, being conservative in this day and age consists of: 1..Lowering taxes, especially at the top of the income and wealth scale 2….Being tough and independent minded avoid science while relying upon your own ‘horse’ sense. 3…..Owning the Libs by opposing everything they attempt if it makes sense or not. So that said at this moment I’ll choose the Democrats there valuing science,opinion & ideas with diversity over the Republicans and the use of good old fashion “HORSE sense” & ivermectin!,,,,,Jmho

     
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    @Zeus4par

     Ty guys ! Some people may have the guns! But there others who have the Numbers…………& Guns!  

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    @Zeus4par

     Ty guys ! Some people may have the guns! But there others who have the Numbers…………& Guns!  

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by joe pockets: ... the GOP and its media propaganda outlets have for decades been deliberately encouraging their voters to be less informed, less open-minded, less self-critical, more guidable about Party-line rhetoric, plus more paranoid and distrustful of any other viewpoints. That has now reached a point where a large number of their supporters are simply no longer functionally capable of rational thought.   

     

      @joe pockets  Conservatism, [ie, the overwhelming majority of the Republican party, though not all] by it's very nature, leads to following those negative, self-defeating precepts, which indirectly as well as directly creates significant problems for all of society, as we are witness to today, especially "less informed" and "less open-minded."

    gullible and paranoid ranks right up there too since 2017  

     

     

    "I'm the MOST HONEST human being that GOD EVER created!" - Donald "the felon" Trump
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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by joe pockets: ... the GOP and its media propaganda outlets have for decades been deliberately encouraging their voters to be less informed, less open-minded, less self-critical, more guidable about Party-line rhetoric, plus more paranoid and distrustful of any other viewpoints. That has now reached a point where a large number of their supporters are simply no longer functionally capable of rational thought.   

     

      @joe pockets  Conservatism, [ie, the overwhelming majority of the Republican party, though not all] by it's very nature, leads to following those negative, self-defeating precepts, which indirectly as well as directly creates significant problems for all of society, as we are witness to today, especially "less informed" and "less open-minded."

    gullible and paranoid ranks right up there too since 2017  

     

     

     
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    The tail is wagging the dog!

    new_confused

    Political Analyst Jon Avalon —

    The tail is wagging the dog!

    Trumpists like Reps. Matt Gaetz and Marjorie Taylor Greene
    have demanded the impeachment process begin, and they
    control enough of the GOP caucus that House Speaker
    Kevin McCarthy had to agree to placate the radical base.


    This is a sign of weakness, not strength.

    One measure of this weakness is the fact that McCarthy
    is trying to move this impeachment inquiry forward
             - without a floor vote -
    just days after pledging to do the reverse!!!! surprised

     

    The reason for McCarthy's flip-flop is self-evident:
    he doesn’t have the votes.

        With a five-vote margin in the House — and
    18 House GOP members representing districts
    President Joe Biden won — the math just doesn’t work.

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    The tail is wagging the dog!

    new_confused

    Political Analyst Jon Avalon —

    The tail is wagging the dog!

    Trumpists like Reps. Matt Gaetz and Marjorie Taylor Greene
    have demanded the impeachment process begin, and they
    control enough of the GOP caucus that House Speaker
    Kevin McCarthy had to agree to placate the radical base.


    This is a sign of weakness, not strength.

    One measure of this weakness is the fact that McCarthy
    is trying to move this impeachment inquiry forward
             - without a floor vote -
    just days after pledging to do the reverse!!!! surprised

     

    The reason for McCarthy's flip-flop is self-evident:
    he doesn’t have the votes.

        With a five-vote margin in the House — and
    18 House GOP members representing districts
    President Joe Biden won — the math just doesn’t work.

     
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    Posted: Sep. 14, 2023 - 1:04 PM ET #22

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    The tail is wagging the dog!

    Political Analyst Jon Avalon — The tail is wagging the dog! Trumpists like Reps. Matt Gaetz and Marjorie Taylor Greene have demanded the impeachment process begin, and they control enough of the GOP caucus that House Speaker Kevin McCarthy had to agree to placate the radical base. This is a sign of weakness, not strength. One measure of this weakness is the fact that McCarthy is trying to move this impeachment inquiry forward          - without a floor vote - just days after pledging to do the reverse!!!!   The reason for McCarthy's flip-flop is self-evident: he doesn’t have the votes.     With a five-vote margin in the House — and 18 House GOP members representing districts President Joe Biden won — the math just doesn’t work.

    Republican flip-flop........AGAIN!

    Just three days later, and after Speaker of the House
    Kevin McCarthy flip-flopped on his vow
    to hold a vote before launching the probe,
    Jim Jordan, one of the three co-chairs of the
    impeachment inquiry, pulled his own 180
    by telling Fox & Friends,
    “We don’t need that to move forward”
    because McCarthy’s pronouncement
    “gives added weight to it.”

    Despite having no concrete evidence to support
    Republican allegations that the president was
    involved in any wrongdoing as it relates to his
    family’s business dealings, McCarthy capitulated
    to MAGA hardliners on Tuesday and announced
    he was unilaterally opening an impeachment inquiry.

    Reply

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    The tail is wagging the dog!

    Political Analyst Jon Avalon — The tail is wagging the dog! Trumpists like Reps. Matt Gaetz and Marjorie Taylor Greene have demanded the impeachment process begin, and they control enough of the GOP caucus that House Speaker Kevin McCarthy had to agree to placate the radical base. This is a sign of weakness, not strength. One measure of this weakness is the fact that McCarthy is trying to move this impeachment inquiry forward          - without a floor vote - just days after pledging to do the reverse!!!!   The reason for McCarthy's flip-flop is self-evident: he doesn’t have the votes.     With a five-vote margin in the House — and 18 House GOP members representing districts President Joe Biden won — the math just doesn’t work.

    Republican flip-flop........AGAIN!

    Just three days later, and after Speaker of the House
    Kevin McCarthy flip-flopped on his vow
    to hold a vote before launching the probe,
    Jim Jordan, one of the three co-chairs of the
    impeachment inquiry, pulled his own 180
    by telling Fox & Friends,
    “We don’t need that to move forward”
    because McCarthy’s pronouncement
    “gives added weight to it.”

    Despite having no concrete evidence to support
    Republican allegations that the president was
    involved in any wrongdoing as it relates to his
    family’s business dealings, McCarthy capitulated
    to MAGA hardliners on Tuesday and announced
    he was unilaterally opening an impeachment inquiry.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Republican flip-flop........AGAIN!

    Speaker of the House Kevin McCarthy flip-flopped on his vow to hold a vote before launching the probe.

    Despite having no concrete evidence to support Republican allegations that the president was involved in any wrongdoing as it relates to his family’s business dealings, McCarthy capitulated to MAGA hardliners on Tuesday and announced he was unilaterally opening an impeachment inquiry.

    Eleven days earlier, though, McCarthy said
    the inquiry would only “occur through a vote
    on the floor of the People's House and
    not through a declaration by one person,”
    adding that it was a “serious matter” and
    the GOP “would not take it lightly
    or use it for political purposes!!”


    ...then, he flip-flops for political purposes.

                                                new_poop

    Reply

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Republican flip-flop........AGAIN!

    Speaker of the House Kevin McCarthy flip-flopped on his vow to hold a vote before launching the probe.

    Despite having no concrete evidence to support Republican allegations that the president was involved in any wrongdoing as it relates to his family’s business dealings, McCarthy capitulated to MAGA hardliners on Tuesday and announced he was unilaterally opening an impeachment inquiry.

    Eleven days earlier, though, McCarthy said
    the inquiry would only “occur through a vote
    on the floor of the People's House and
    not through a declaration by one person,”
    adding that it was a “serious matter” and
    the GOP “would not take it lightly
    or use it for political purposes!!”


    ...then, he flip-flops for political purposes.

                                                new_poop

     
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    Posted: Sep. 16, 2023 - 5:01 PM ET #24

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Republican flip-flop........AGAIN! Speaker of the House Kevin McCarthy flip-flopped on his vow to hold a vote before launching the probe. Despite having no concrete evidence to support Republican allegations that the president was involved in any wrongdoing as it relates to his family’s business dealings, McCarthy capitulated to MAGA hardliners on Tuesday and announced he was unilaterally opening an impeachment inquiry. Eleven days earlier, though, McCarthy said the inquiry would only “occur through a vote on the floor of the People's House and not through a declaration by one person,” adding that it was a “serious matter” and the GOP “would not take it lightly or use it for political purposes!!” ...then, he flip-flops for political purposes.

    Meanwhile, Jim Jordan, a Trump acolyte and key architect
    of the GOP’s push to impeach Biden despite no evidence
    of significant wrongdoing, insisted during a Fox News
    appearance last Sunday night that it was IMPERITIVE
    that the House vote BEFORE formally launching the probe.

    That's what Jordan said to the Fox News audience

    .....now he too, flip-flops.  

                                    new_poop

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Republican flip-flop........AGAIN! Speaker of the House Kevin McCarthy flip-flopped on his vow to hold a vote before launching the probe. Despite having no concrete evidence to support Republican allegations that the president was involved in any wrongdoing as it relates to his family’s business dealings, McCarthy capitulated to MAGA hardliners on Tuesday and announced he was unilaterally opening an impeachment inquiry. Eleven days earlier, though, McCarthy said the inquiry would only “occur through a vote on the floor of the People's House and not through a declaration by one person,” adding that it was a “serious matter” and the GOP “would not take it lightly or use it for political purposes!!” ...then, he flip-flops for political purposes.

    Meanwhile, Jim Jordan, a Trump acolyte and key architect
    of the GOP’s push to impeach Biden despite no evidence
    of significant wrongdoing, insisted during a Fox News
    appearance last Sunday night that it was IMPERITIVE
    that the House vote BEFORE formally launching the probe.

    That's what Jordan said to the Fox News audience

    .....now he too, flip-flops.  

                                    new_poop

     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by lovethedough:

    Is that the GOP that started a huge war in Iraq that killed so many Americans for nothing ?  Nah.  We don't need that.   Even Trump has more common sense than Bush or Obama.  Which isn't saying much.

    an_roll_laugh

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    Quote Originally Posted by lovethedough:

    Is that the GOP that started a huge war in Iraq that killed so many Americans for nothing ?  Nah.  We don't need that.   Even Trump has more common sense than Bush or Obama.  Which isn't saying much.

    an_roll_laugh

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