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    Is This Collusion? Answer "yes" to all these questions?

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    Pdriver
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    Posted: Aug. 5, 2018 - 10:56 PM ET #1

    Questions 

    1. Did they know they were meeting with russian officials? (June 2016)

    2 Did they know they were looking to receive russian intel? 

    3. Did they intend to use russian Intel during a US election ? 

    4. Did they intend to repeal Magnitsky sanctions? 

    5. Did they attempt to change GOP foreign policy to mirror russian interests ?(Ukraine)

    6. Did they communicate via DM's with russian cut outs?(Wikileaks)

    7. Did the candidate repeatedly praise Putin on a scale unseen in US politics ?

     8. Did trump's company receive hundreds of millions from russian nationals in the form of real estate purchases suspected of being money laundering crimes?

    9. Have many of these Russians been clearly connected to the Russian mob ?

     

    I can't imagine honestly saying NO to any of these items. 

     

     

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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.

    Questions 

    1. Did they know they were meeting with russian officials? (June 2016)

    2 Did they know they were looking to receive russian intel? 

    3. Did they intend to use russian Intel during a US election ? 

    4. Did they intend to repeal Magnitsky sanctions? 

    5. Did they attempt to change GOP foreign policy to mirror russian interests ?(Ukraine)

    6. Did they communicate via DM's with russian cut outs?(Wikileaks)

    7. Did the candidate repeatedly praise Putin on a scale unseen in US politics ?

     8. Did trump's company receive hundreds of millions from russian nationals in the form of real estate purchases suspected of being money laundering crimes?

    9. Have many of these Russians been clearly connected to the Russian mob ?

     

    I can't imagine honestly saying NO to any of these items. 

     

     

     
    Pdriver
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    Posted: Aug. 5, 2018 - 10:58 PM ET #2

    I'm sure there are more examples of coordination. 

    Feel free to add them...

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    I'm sure there are more examples of coordination. 

    Feel free to add them...

     
    HockeyTeeth
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    Posted: Aug. 5, 2018 - 11:12 PM ET #3

    You add them. It's your thread.

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    You add them. It's your thread.

     
    SarasotaSlim
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    Posted: Aug. 5, 2018 - 11:20 PM ET #4

    3. Did they intend to use russian Intel during a US election ?......... No!

    4. Did they intend to repeal Magnitsky sanctions?.................. No!



    Like with Hillary Clinton... Trump and his team may have been carelessly mishandled some things ...but carelessness doesn't constitute sufficient intent for a prosecutor to bring a case against them..

    ...........as in the case of Hillary... sending and receiving classified emails on her private email server, in a closet, in her bathroom ,,while secretary of state....there was no intentional and willful intent to harm America..So "NO" and "NO"..........
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    3. Did they intend to use russian Intel during a US election ?......... No!

    4. Did they intend to repeal Magnitsky sanctions?.................. No!



    Like with Hillary Clinton... Trump and his team may have been carelessly mishandled some things ...but carelessness doesn't constitute sufficient intent for a prosecutor to bring a case against them..

    ...........as in the case of Hillary... sending and receiving classified emails on her private email server, in a closet, in her bathroom ,,while secretary of state....there was no intentional and willful intent to harm America..So "NO" and "NO"..........
     
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    Posted: Aug. 5, 2018 - 11:32 PM ET #5

    Slim: 

    3. Why else take the meeting ?

    4. See Flynn's texts on Inauguration Day. See Flynn's false testimony to the FBI. 

    Yes indeed sanctions were in play (sadly)

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    Slim: 

    3. Why else take the meeting ?

    4. See Flynn's texts on Inauguration Day. See Flynn's false testimony to the FBI. 

    Yes indeed sanctions were in play (sadly)

     
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    Posted: Aug. 5, 2018 - 11:35 PM ET #6

    Slim: 

    Don't take my word for it. God rest his soul the great conservative Charles Krauthammer makes his opinion clear about another point in your retort. 

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nationalreview.com/2017/07/donald-trump-jr-emails-demonstrate-immoral-collusion/amp/

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    Slim: 

    Don't take my word for it. God rest his soul the great conservative Charles Krauthammer makes his opinion clear about another point in your retort. 

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nationalreview.com/2017/07/donald-trump-jr-emails-demonstrate-immoral-collusion/amp/

     
    Pdriver
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    Posted: Aug. 5, 2018 - 11:36 PM ET #7

    Hockey.  

    Im lazy. Help me out. 

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    Hockey.  

    Im lazy. Help me out. 

     
    SarasotaSlim
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    Posted: Aug. 6, 2018 - 2:02 AM ET #8

    Quote Originally Posted by Pdriver:

    Slim: 

    Don't take my word for it. God rest his soul the great conservative Charles Krauthammer makes his opinion clear about another point in your retort. 

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nationalreview.com/2017/07/donald-trump-jr-emails-demonstrate-immoral-collusion/amp/



    Not to speak too unkindly about the recent dead...but he greatly disliked President Trump ..and although Krauthammer considered a conservative commentator and at times I shared some of his views....  he was part of the Republican elite..and was wrong on  many occasions with predictions and evaluations....e.g  he predicted Romney would beat Obama ..

    He was a psychiatrist not a lawyer..He even say's at the bottom of your linked article.. "What Donald Jr. — and Kushner and Manafort — did may not be criminal"     and ends with ....
    "I leave it to the lawyers to adjudicate the legalities of unconsummated collusion"..

    ..and I wouldn't look to HockeyTeeth to help add to your list ..it's more likely if he helps your list will get a lot shorter..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pdriver:

    Slim: 

    Don't take my word for it. God rest his soul the great conservative Charles Krauthammer makes his opinion clear about another point in your retort. 

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nationalreview.com/2017/07/donald-trump-jr-emails-demonstrate-immoral-collusion/amp/



    Not to speak too unkindly about the recent dead...but he greatly disliked President Trump ..and although Krauthammer considered a conservative commentator and at times I shared some of his views....  he was part of the Republican elite..and was wrong on  many occasions with predictions and evaluations....e.g  he predicted Romney would beat Obama ..

    He was a psychiatrist not a lawyer..He even say's at the bottom of your linked article.. "What Donald Jr. — and Kushner and Manafort — did may not be criminal"     and ends with ....
    "I leave it to the lawyers to adjudicate the legalities of unconsummated collusion"..

    ..and I wouldn't look to HockeyTeeth to help add to your list ..it's more likely if he helps your list will get a lot shorter..
     
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    Posted: Aug. 6, 2018 - 9:08 AM ET #9

    Slim-  good to hear ur opinion 

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    Slim-  good to hear ur opinion 

     
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    Posted: Aug. 6, 2018 - 2:10 PM ET #10

    Ok Pee, i'll help you. There was no need to post declaring your laziness, that fact was obvious to anyone that had the misfortune of reading post #1.

    Let's play Watergate. I'll point you in the right direction. (at this point i suggest switching to incognito mode.) We are being watched. 

    Google this stuff....


    Operation Crossfire Hurricane.

    Natalia is the key to Trump Tower meeting.

    Her and the Agalarov's.

    There is a document in the public domain, a DOJ document re: The Magnitsky Act. It details the involvement of individuals lobbying on behalf of xxxxxxxxxx. I'm sure you have read it. 

    Look at the individuals named. Google them.

    Also Google Cozen O'Connor. 

    (We are being watched.) I will have more information for you. It is not safe here. Check back periodically, if my avatar changes to potted plant on balcony, I have more information for you.





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    Ok Pee, i'll help you. There was no need to post declaring your laziness, that fact was obvious to anyone that had the misfortune of reading post #1.

    Let's play Watergate. I'll point you in the right direction. (at this point i suggest switching to incognito mode.) We are being watched. 

    Google this stuff....


    Operation Crossfire Hurricane.

    Natalia is the key to Trump Tower meeting.

    Her and the Agalarov's.

    There is a document in the public domain, a DOJ document re: The Magnitsky Act. It details the involvement of individuals lobbying on behalf of xxxxxxxxxx. I'm sure you have read it. 

    Look at the individuals named. Google them.

    Also Google Cozen O'Connor. 

    (We are being watched.) I will have more information for you. It is not safe here. Check back periodically, if my avatar changes to potted plant on balcony, I have more information for you.





     
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    Posted: Aug. 6, 2018 - 2:51 PM ET #11

    Teeth.  What the heck are you talking about ??? Ur last post was beyond confusing 

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    Teeth.  What the heck are you talking about ??? Ur last post was beyond confusing 

     
    HockeyTeeth
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    Posted: Aug. 6, 2018 - 3:33 PM ET #12

    Did you understand the part about do not contact me untill the avatar changes to potted plant?

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    Did you understand the part about do not contact me untill the avatar changes to potted plant?

     
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    Posted: Aug. 6, 2018 - 4:52 PM ET #13

    Quote Originally Posted by Pdriver:

    Teeth.  What the heck are you talking about ??? Ur last post was beyond confusing 


    You could understand it if,,,,you were actually politically knowable and up-to date on what's happening..

    HockeyTeeth, I especially like the reference to Operation Crossfire Hurricane.

    I was born in a cross-fire hurricane           
    And I howled at the morning driving rain
    But it's all right now, in fact, it's a gas
    But it's all right. I'm Jumpin' Jack Flash

    It's a gas, gas, gas

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pdriver:

    Teeth.  What the heck are you talking about ??? Ur last post was beyond confusing 


    You could understand it if,,,,you were actually politically knowable and up-to date on what's happening..

    HockeyTeeth, I especially like the reference to Operation Crossfire Hurricane.

    I was born in a cross-fire hurricane           
    And I howled at the morning driving rain
    But it's all right now, in fact, it's a gas
    But it's all right. I'm Jumpin' Jack Flash

    It's a gas, gas, gas

     
    HockeyTeeth
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    Posted: Aug. 6, 2018 - 5:08 PM ET #14

     

    HockeyTeeth, I especially like the reference to Operation Crossfire Hurricane.
     
    I was born in a cross-fire hurricane            
    And I howled at the morning driving rain
    But it's all right now, in fact, it's a gas
    But it's all right. I'm Jumpin' Jack Flash

    It's a gas, gas, gas
     
    an_woo
     
    (potted plant...watergate...i thought it was obvious). I thought the "pee" reference was comical. But I'm kinda biased.
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    HockeyTeeth, I especially like the reference to Operation Crossfire Hurricane.
     
    I was born in a cross-fire hurricane            
    And I howled at the morning driving rain
    But it's all right now, in fact, it's a gas
    But it's all right. I'm Jumpin' Jack Flash

    It's a gas, gas, gas
     
    an_woo
     
    (potted plant...watergate...i thought it was obvious). I thought the "pee" reference was comical. But I'm kinda biased.
     
    Pdriver
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    Posted: Aug. 6, 2018 - 11:25 PM ET #15

    so stating the official name of the FBI investigation somehow imparts validity to your argument ? Lol

    love the Natalia reference.  She recently admitted to coordinating w the russian govt.  not helpful to your narrative. 

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    so stating the official name of the FBI investigation somehow imparts validity to your argument ? Lol

    love the Natalia reference.  She recently admitted to coordinating w the russian govt.  not helpful to your narrative. 

     
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    Posted: Aug. 6, 2018 - 11:45 PM ET #16

    Jumping Jack Flash it's a gas .  Excellent post Mr Teeth...........peace_5

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    Jumping Jack Flash it's a gas .  Excellent post Mr Teeth...........peace_5

     
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    Posted: Aug. 7, 2018 - 11:54 AM ET #17

    P, I didn't put green potted plant on balcony. You are going to get us both "disappeared". 

    Ok, since you are here, google this too...

    eTreppid Technologies. 

     

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    P, I didn't put green potted plant on balcony. You are going to get us both "disappeared". 

    Ok, since you are here, google this too...

    eTreppid Technologies. 

     

     
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    Posted: Aug. 7, 2018 - 10:44 PM ET #18

    Yo teeth.  Paranoia and gullibility is not a good look.  You can do better. 

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    Yo teeth.  Paranoia and gullibility is not a good look.  You can do better. 

     
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    Posted: Aug. 10, 2018 - 1:02 AM ET #19

     P, truthfully we both could do better.  But... No more info for you. I dont think your'e ready for this jelly.

     

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     P, truthfully we both could do better.  But... No more info for you. I dont think your'e ready for this jelly.

     

     
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    Posted: Aug. 10, 2018 - 1:12 AM ET #20

    If all is true in OP, then why has it been investigated for 18 months by an obviously a biased team with nothing to show for it besides Manafort/Gates harmonious relationship and crimes from over 10 years ago? I guess the Mueller time is just biding their time, allowing the POTUS to govern for a few years before nabbing him? I think you should go see a counselor and get help for the DTS... 

    HRC paid $10M for a foreign agents unverified dossier to smear DT and continue with trying to tilt the general election the same as she tilted the Dem nomination. All of this Russian b.s. was started by her campaign and if she won, the only time you'd hear Russia was when you were drinking vodka.

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    If all is true in OP, then why has it been investigated for 18 months by an obviously a biased team with nothing to show for it besides Manafort/Gates harmonious relationship and crimes from over 10 years ago? I guess the Mueller time is just biding their time, allowing the POTUS to govern for a few years before nabbing him? I think you should go see a counselor and get help for the DTS... 

    HRC paid $10M for a foreign agents unverified dossier to smear DT and continue with trying to tilt the general election the same as she tilted the Dem nomination. All of this Russian b.s. was started by her campaign and if she won, the only time you'd hear Russia was when you were drinking vodka.

     
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    Posted: Aug. 10, 2018 - 5:15 AM ET #21

    The Russian lunacy conspiracy theorists won't give up 
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    The Russian lunacy conspiracy theorists won't give up 
     
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    Posted: Aug. 10, 2018 - 2:19 PM ET #22

    I'm starting to think Trump will be assasinated soon, shot, poisened ...whatever. They are very close to revealing exactly what O, Brennan and Clapper were up to. It's not good.

    Nellie and Bruce Orr testimony will shed light on the Crossfire Hurricane plot. If the aformentioned allowed Fusion GPS to have access to the FBI Citizen Log the witch hunt will be over...quicker than you can say "hope and change"

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    I'm starting to think Trump will be assasinated soon, shot, poisened ...whatever. They are very close to revealing exactly what O, Brennan and Clapper were up to. It's not good.

    Nellie and Bruce Orr testimony will shed light on the Crossfire Hurricane plot. If the aformentioned allowed Fusion GPS to have access to the FBI Citizen Log the witch hunt will be over...quicker than you can say "hope and change"

     
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    Posted: Aug. 10, 2018 - 4:08 PM ET #23

    (P, the no more info comment was a red herring. Apparently due to a quirk in the Stuxnet Virus the NSA is unable to surveil text in parenthesis. Here is another company I think you should research. 

    google this...

    Hurricane Electric..by now all of the pieces should be falling into place.

    Just trying to set you on the right track.)

    (ps; don't forget to use the parenthesis)

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    (P, the no more info comment was a red herring. Apparently due to a quirk in the Stuxnet Virus the NSA is unable to surveil text in parenthesis. Here is another company I think you should research. 

    google this...

    Hurricane Electric..by now all of the pieces should be falling into place.

    Just trying to set you on the right track.)

    (ps; don't forget to use the parenthesis)

     
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    Posted: Aug. 11, 2018 - 2:42 PM ET #24

    time will tell boys. 

    To be honest I think the level of denial and conspiratorial thinking is alarming. 

    This is not about Left vs Right. Hillary vs Trump.  This is about a scale of russian influence that has reached the Oval Office.  No patriotic American should be OK with this.  

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    time will tell boys. 

    To be honest I think the level of denial and conspiratorial thinking is alarming. 

    This is not about Left vs Right. Hillary vs Trump.  This is about a scale of russian influence that has reached the Oval Office.  No patriotic American should be OK with this.  

     
     
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    Posted: Aug. 11, 2018 - 3:43 PM ET #25

    Where do you get that Obama is close to being a billionaire? Just making stuff up to fit your narrative, huh?

    R.I.P. #94 MARSHAWN KNEELAND - DC4L
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    Where do you get that Obama is close to being a billionaire? Just making stuff up to fit your narrative, huh?

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