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    Is it me or is Joe Biden don’t a really good job!

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    joe pockets
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    Posted: Jun. 2, 2023 - 11:58 PM ET #1

    Personally I think he is the 5th or 6th worst president that we have had during my lifetime. The only ones I think were worse was 1st Trump 2nd Reagan 3rd Nixon 4th Bush 5th Carter! Grading wise Biden’s a B or a B- president. Straight in the middle average, but an absolute breath of fresh air after the F- that was Trump. Biden did get saddled with inflation but given the rabid asshattery of the Repubs are bound and determined to fuck over any Democrat in any office in the US and territories, he is doing a bang up fucking excellent job given the trainwreck he took over. Having to deal with a freaking insurrection, shepherding a mass of traitors into the slammer and everything else the human dumpsterfire left us with.

    At the end of the day Biden is a solid old-style politician, and I mean that as a compliment. Compromise and deal-making are so out of fashion that the general public now associates it with weakness, but it’s what’s required to make government work.

    Oddly, Kevin McCarthy and Mitch McConnell both know this and know how to do it, but as soon as they’re seen to put it in practice, their newer colleagues set on them like rabid dogs. For some of them, it’s because that’s what plays well with the rubes, but there is a significant and vocal portion of freshman GOP Congresspeople who sincerely want to burn the whole government down regardless of the consequences.

     

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    Personally I think he is the 5th or 6th worst president that we have had during my lifetime. The only ones I think were worse was 1st Trump 2nd Reagan 3rd Nixon 4th Bush 5th Carter! Grading wise Biden’s a B or a B- president. Straight in the middle average, but an absolute breath of fresh air after the F- that was Trump. Biden did get saddled with inflation but given the rabid asshattery of the Repubs are bound and determined to fuck over any Democrat in any office in the US and territories, he is doing a bang up fucking excellent job given the trainwreck he took over. Having to deal with a freaking insurrection, shepherding a mass of traitors into the slammer and everything else the human dumpsterfire left us with.

    At the end of the day Biden is a solid old-style politician, and I mean that as a compliment. Compromise and deal-making are so out of fashion that the general public now associates it with weakness, but it’s what’s required to make government work.

    Oddly, Kevin McCarthy and Mitch McConnell both know this and know how to do it, but as soon as they’re seen to put it in practice, their newer colleagues set on them like rabid dogs. For some of them, it’s because that’s what plays well with the rubes, but there is a significant and vocal portion of freshman GOP Congresspeople who sincerely want to burn the whole government down regardless of the consequences.

     

     
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    Posted: Jun. 3, 2023 - 12:18 AM ET #2

    Quote Originally Posted by joe pockets:

    Personally I think he is the 5th or 6th worst president that we have had during my lifetime. The only ones I think were worse was 1st Trump 2nd Reagan 3rd Nixon 4th Bush 5th Carter! Grading wise Biden’s a B or a B- president. Straight in the middle average, but an absolute breath of fresh air after the F- that was Trump. Biden did get saddled with inflation but given the rabid asshattery of the Repubs are bound and determined to fuck over any Democrat in any office in the US and territories, he is doing a bang up fucking excellent job given the trainwreck he took over. Having to deal with a freaking insurrection, shepherding a mass of traitors into the slammer and everything else the human dumpsterfire left us with. At the end of the day Biden is a solid old-style politician, and I mean that as a compliment. Compromise and deal-making are so out of fashion that the general public now associates it with weakness, but it’s what’s required to make government work. Oddly, Kevin McCarthy and Mitch McConnell both know this and know how to do it, but as soon as they’re seen to put it in practice, their newer colleagues set on them like rabid dogs. For some of them, it’s because that’s what plays well with the rubes, but there is a significant and vocal portion of freshman GOP Congresspeople who sincerely want to burn the whole government down regardless of the consequences.

    So, tell me about that " inflation " that occurred under Trump.   You lefties do a poor job remembering things..

    And talk to me about that " trainwreck " Biden took over.  Explain yourself 

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    Quote Originally Posted by joe pockets:

    Personally I think he is the 5th or 6th worst president that we have had during my lifetime. The only ones I think were worse was 1st Trump 2nd Reagan 3rd Nixon 4th Bush 5th Carter! Grading wise Biden’s a B or a B- president. Straight in the middle average, but an absolute breath of fresh air after the F- that was Trump. Biden did get saddled with inflation but given the rabid asshattery of the Repubs are bound and determined to fuck over any Democrat in any office in the US and territories, he is doing a bang up fucking excellent job given the trainwreck he took over. Having to deal with a freaking insurrection, shepherding a mass of traitors into the slammer and everything else the human dumpsterfire left us with. At the end of the day Biden is a solid old-style politician, and I mean that as a compliment. Compromise and deal-making are so out of fashion that the general public now associates it with weakness, but it’s what’s required to make government work. Oddly, Kevin McCarthy and Mitch McConnell both know this and know how to do it, but as soon as they’re seen to put it in practice, their newer colleagues set on them like rabid dogs. For some of them, it’s because that’s what plays well with the rubes, but there is a significant and vocal portion of freshman GOP Congresspeople who sincerely want to burn the whole government down regardless of the consequences.

    So, tell me about that " inflation " that occurred under Trump.   You lefties do a poor job remembering things..

    And talk to me about that " trainwreck " Biden took over.  Explain yourself 

     
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    Posted: Jun. 3, 2023 - 12:31 AM ET #3

    Quote Originally Posted by joe pockets:

    Personally I think he is the 5th or 6th worst president that we have had during my lifetime. The only ones I think were worse was 1st Trump 2nd Reagan 3rd Nixon 4th Bush 5th Carter! Grading wise Biden’s a B or a B- president. Straight in the middle average, but an absolute breath of fresh air after the F- that was Trump.

     

    good thoughts there  peace_5 and nobody is perfect . but some r much more imperfect than others .

    6th in my lifetime rump is definitely at the bottom and with no other pres anywhere close to as bad as that 2time impeached seditionist fascist who is a convicted sex offender , responsible for the deaths of almost a million americans from covid, also currently indicted on even more fraud charges in addition to the conviction on 17 counts in january , ,with several other criminal charges pending soon !

    5th gw bush next worse but not even close to chump

    4th nixon 

    3rd carter

    2nd reagan

    1st below biden. h w bush didnt accomplish anywhere close to what biden has , so while a good guy he has to rank lower

    "I'm the MOST HONEST human being that GOD EVER created!" - Donald "the felon" Trump
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    Quote Originally Posted by joe pockets:

    Personally I think he is the 5th or 6th worst president that we have had during my lifetime. The only ones I think were worse was 1st Trump 2nd Reagan 3rd Nixon 4th Bush 5th Carter! Grading wise Biden’s a B or a B- president. Straight in the middle average, but an absolute breath of fresh air after the F- that was Trump.

     

    good thoughts there  peace_5 and nobody is perfect . but some r much more imperfect than others .

    6th in my lifetime rump is definitely at the bottom and with no other pres anywhere close to as bad as that 2time impeached seditionist fascist who is a convicted sex offender , responsible for the deaths of almost a million americans from covid, also currently indicted on even more fraud charges in addition to the conviction on 17 counts in january , ,with several other criminal charges pending soon !

    5th gw bush next worse but not even close to chump

    4th nixon 

    3rd carter

    2nd reagan

    1st below biden. h w bush didnt accomplish anywhere close to what biden has , so while a good guy he has to rank lower

     
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    When you create stories that you went to recycing center and just happen to find a stack of 1960's playboys and just happen to thumb through them and just happen to find the John Wayne interview, same one all over the internet last several years, then yes, Joe Biden is your guy! lie

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    When you create stories that you went to recycing center and just happen to find a stack of 1960's playboys and just happen to thumb through them and just happen to find the John Wayne interview, same one all over the internet last several years, then yes, Joe Biden is your guy! lie

    https://www.covers.com/forum/general-discussion/recently-while-throwing-cans-and-bottles-at-the-recycling-103727044

     
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    Posted: Jun. 3, 2023 - 12:42 AM ET #5

    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by joe pockets: Personally I think he is the 5th or 6th worst president that we have had during my lifetime. The only ones I think were worse was 1st Trump 2nd Reagan 3rd Nixon 4th Bush 5th Carter! Grading wise Biden’s a B or a B- president. Straight in the middle average, but an absolute breath of fresh air after the F- that was Trump.

      good thoughts there   and nobody is perfect . but some r much more imperfect than others . 6th in my lifetime rump is definitely at the bottom and with no other pres anywhere close to as bad as that 2time impeached seditionist fascist who is a convicted sex offender , responsible for the deaths of almost a million americans from covid, also currently indicted on even more fraud charges in addition to the conviction on 17 counts in january , ,with several other criminal charges pending soon ! 5th gw bush next worse but not even close to chump 4th nixon  3rd carter 2nd reagan 1st below biden. h w bush didnt accomplish anywhere close to what biden has , so while a good guy he has to rank lower

    Looks fair, though i might flip Nixon and Carter.

     

     

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by joe pockets: Personally I think he is the 5th or 6th worst president that we have had during my lifetime. The only ones I think were worse was 1st Trump 2nd Reagan 3rd Nixon 4th Bush 5th Carter! Grading wise Biden’s a B or a B- president. Straight in the middle average, but an absolute breath of fresh air after the F- that was Trump.

      good thoughts there   and nobody is perfect . but some r much more imperfect than others . 6th in my lifetime rump is definitely at the bottom and with no other pres anywhere close to as bad as that 2time impeached seditionist fascist who is a convicted sex offender , responsible for the deaths of almost a million americans from covid, also currently indicted on even more fraud charges in addition to the conviction on 17 counts in january , ,with several other criminal charges pending soon ! 5th gw bush next worse but not even close to chump 4th nixon  3rd carter 2nd reagan 1st below biden. h w bush didnt accomplish anywhere close to what biden has , so while a good guy he has to rank lower

    Looks fair, though i might flip Nixon and Carter.

     

     

     

     

     
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    Posted: Jun. 3, 2023 - 12:49 AM ET #6

    Quote Originally Posted by joe pockets:

     

    Oddly, Kevin McCarthy and Mitch McConnell both know this and know how to do it, but as soon as they’re seen to put it in practice, their newer colleagues set on them like rabid dogs. For some of them, it’s because that’s what plays well with the rubes, but there is a significant and vocal portion of freshman GOP Congresspeople who sincerely want to burn the whole government down regardless of the consequences.

     

    Clearly only a far right thing.   FASCISTS.   ANARCHISTS.

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by joe pockets:

     

    Oddly, Kevin McCarthy and Mitch McConnell both know this and know how to do it, but as soon as they’re seen to put it in practice, their newer colleagues set on them like rabid dogs. For some of them, it’s because that’s what plays well with the rubes, but there is a significant and vocal portion of freshman GOP Congresspeople who sincerely want to burn the whole government down regardless of the consequences.

     

    Clearly only a far right thing.   FASCISTS.   ANARCHISTS.

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by joe pockets:

    Personally I think he is ...an absolute breath of fresh air after the F- that was Trump. Biden did get saddled with inflation but given the rabid asshattery of the Repubs are bound and determined to fuck over any Democrat in any office in the US and territories, he is doing a bang up fucking excellent job given the trainwreck he took over. Having to deal with a freaking insurrection, shepherding a mass of traitors into the slammer and everything else the human dumpsterfire left us with.

    This is archived historical fact now, known all over the world, 

    although denied by the MAGA members of the Flat Earth Society.

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by joe pockets:

    Personally I think he is ...an absolute breath of fresh air after the F- that was Trump. Biden did get saddled with inflation but given the rabid asshattery of the Repubs are bound and determined to fuck over any Democrat in any office in the US and territories, he is doing a bang up fucking excellent job given the trainwreck he took over. Having to deal with a freaking insurrection, shepherding a mass of traitors into the slammer and everything else the human dumpsterfire left us with.

    This is archived historical fact now, known all over the world, 

    although denied by the MAGA members of the Flat Earth Society.

     

     
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    Posted: Jun. 3, 2023 - 9:36 AM ET #8

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     I have guess you didn’t see prices rise from the moment Covid hit ? And after the stimulus cash it grew on weekly basis! Gas went down because the market was flooded with gas and cars sat in the driveway! I don’t blame Covid on Trump ! That said he was the wrong man for that task….Or any task!

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     I have guess you didn’t see prices rise from the moment Covid hit ? And after the stimulus cash it grew on weekly basis! Gas went down because the market was flooded with gas and cars sat in the driveway! I don’t blame Covid on Trump ! That said he was the wrong man for that task….Or any task!

     
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     I thinking Nixon dreamed of being a victorious war time president and even under mined Johnson during his peace talks ! I believe looking back Richard Nixon was working on a steady progressive plan to radicalize the Republican Party of the United States? But Ronald Reagan didn’t want this, and none of the Bushes wanted this. Where as Jimmy Carter was what you see is what you get, a decent human being trying please everyone….which is not possible and quickly he found himself in over his head

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     I thinking Nixon dreamed of being a victorious war time president and even under mined Johnson during his peace talks ! I believe looking back Richard Nixon was working on a steady progressive plan to radicalize the Republican Party of the United States? But Ronald Reagan didn’t want this, and none of the Bushes wanted this. Where as Jimmy Carter was what you see is what you get, a decent human being trying please everyone….which is not possible and quickly he found himself in over his head

     
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    I love these well written and very partisan threads from Lefty lunatics!

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    I love these well written and very partisan threads from Lefty lunatics!

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by joe pockets:

    @Rush51  I have guess you didn’t see prices rise from the moment Covid hit ? And after the stimulus cash it grew on weekly basis! Gas went down because the market was flooded with gas and cars sat in the driveway! I don’t blame Covid on Trump ! That said he was the wrong man for that task….Or any task!

    Don't take my word from it...  Read ! 

    https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/USA/united-states/inflation-rate-cpi

     

    Your ass hat of a president Biden decided to press on w " more" Covid spending just a few short months in office.  This, w a healthy, recovering economy that needed no further support.  

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    Quote Originally Posted by joe pockets:

    @Rush51  I have guess you didn’t see prices rise from the moment Covid hit ? And after the stimulus cash it grew on weekly basis! Gas went down because the market was flooded with gas and cars sat in the driveway! I don’t blame Covid on Trump ! That said he was the wrong man for that task….Or any task!

    Don't take my word from it...  Read ! 

    https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/USA/united-states/inflation-rate-cpi

     

    Your ass hat of a president Biden decided to press on w " more" Covid spending just a few short months in office.  This, w a healthy, recovering economy that needed no further support.  

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rush51:

    And talk to me about that " trainwreck " Biden took over.

    Joe Pocket is right.  Biden inherited a mess from Trump.  The worst pandemic in over a century and a economy struggling with millions unemployed.  Under adverse circumstances, remarkable that he has more positive accomplishments in 4 years than some presidents in 8 years.  Biden may be one of the most under estimated presidents in decades.  In polls of presidential historians, Biden is already ranked above average while Trump is among the worst.  In contrast, Trump inherited the longest economic recovery in US history which ended under his watch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rush51:

    And talk to me about that " trainwreck " Biden took over.

    Joe Pocket is right.  Biden inherited a mess from Trump.  The worst pandemic in over a century and a economy struggling with millions unemployed.  Under adverse circumstances, remarkable that he has more positive accomplishments in 4 years than some presidents in 8 years.  Biden may be one of the most under estimated presidents in decades.  In polls of presidential historians, Biden is already ranked above average while Trump is among the worst.  In contrast, Trump inherited the longest economic recovery in US history which ended under his watch.

     
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    Biden is pretty lousy he is not a leader, he does not motivate the youth or inspire. His family is a mess, he is a life long slogging politician who accomplished near nothing but cashing a check. I still dont see how Biden won the DNC spot, Sanders was leading strongly until the leadership sandbagged him. I thought he was going to bow out he was doing so poorly, it shows that the DNC did not want a progressive candidate in Sanders. Id rate Joe a D as to what he has done and how he leads, inspires, motivates..because he does none of those things. He does not divide and destroy like Trump did, he does not inspire hate and give an environment where extremists and angry people can lash out as Trump did..but no Joe is the worst after Trump, even worse than Bush I and II.

    To the point of inflation, the environment for inflation was bred from a decade of ZIRP, it  just needed a match to burn off the inventories that corps kept. Covid made a supply kink and disrupted JIT inventory models that the majority of corps use...so for sure Covid was on Trump's watch, the FED blowing the monetary bubble was also on Trump's watch so he has as much responsibility as Obama does but the match was lit with Covid. If anyone follows the economic news cycle its easy to find many mentions regarding the supply chain and how it is still not repaired fully. Also without ZIRP corps wont take extra risk holding inventory because it costs more and wont turn as fast...so the fact that the FED raised rates means the supply queue is less than in the past even with the supply chain working perfectly.

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    Biden is pretty lousy he is not a leader, he does not motivate the youth or inspire. His family is a mess, he is a life long slogging politician who accomplished near nothing but cashing a check. I still dont see how Biden won the DNC spot, Sanders was leading strongly until the leadership sandbagged him. I thought he was going to bow out he was doing so poorly, it shows that the DNC did not want a progressive candidate in Sanders. Id rate Joe a D as to what he has done and how he leads, inspires, motivates..because he does none of those things. He does not divide and destroy like Trump did, he does not inspire hate and give an environment where extremists and angry people can lash out as Trump did..but no Joe is the worst after Trump, even worse than Bush I and II.

    To the point of inflation, the environment for inflation was bred from a decade of ZIRP, it  just needed a match to burn off the inventories that corps kept. Covid made a supply kink and disrupted JIT inventory models that the majority of corps use...so for sure Covid was on Trump's watch, the FED blowing the monetary bubble was also on Trump's watch so he has as much responsibility as Obama does but the match was lit with Covid. If anyone follows the economic news cycle its easy to find many mentions regarding the supply chain and how it is still not repaired fully. Also without ZIRP corps wont take extra risk holding inventory because it costs more and wont turn as fast...so the fact that the FED raised rates means the supply queue is less than in the past even with the supply chain working perfectly.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by Rush51: And talk to me about that " trainwreck " Biden took over. Joe Pocket is right.  Biden inherited a mess from Trump.  The worst pandemic in over a century and a economy struggling with millions unemployed.  Under adverse circumstances, remarkable that he has more positive accomplishments in 4 years than some presidents in 8 years.  Biden may be one of the most under estimated presidents in decades.  In polls of presidential historians, Biden is already ranked above average while Trump is among the worst.  In contrast, Trump inherited the longest economic recovery in US history which ended under his watch.

    So, you too fail, THIRDPERSON.

     

    Talk to me about that economy that was "growing" , had " low inflation ", and unemployment   "that was decreasing " from COVID highs... all when Trump left office.  So, you suffer from a poor memory,  too, I see.

    How are you enjoying all that inflation of the last couple years, starting when ass hat Joe ramped up spending?! 

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by Rush51: And talk to me about that " trainwreck " Biden took over. Joe Pocket is right.  Biden inherited a mess from Trump.  The worst pandemic in over a century and a economy struggling with millions unemployed.  Under adverse circumstances, remarkable that he has more positive accomplishments in 4 years than some presidents in 8 years.  Biden may be one of the most under estimated presidents in decades.  In polls of presidential historians, Biden is already ranked above average while Trump is among the worst.  In contrast, Trump inherited the longest economic recovery in US history which ended under his watch.

    So, you too fail, THIRDPERSON.

     

    Talk to me about that economy that was "growing" , had " low inflation ", and unemployment   "that was decreasing " from COVID highs... all when Trump left office.  So, you suffer from a poor memory,  too, I see.

    How are you enjoying all that inflation of the last couple years, starting when ass hat Joe ramped up spending?! 

     

     
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    @Rush51

     

    In terms of inflation, there are many causes and it was something of a perfect storm of pandemic-induced supply shortages, covid relief money and the Ukraine conflict. Do you think January 6th did anything promising for the markets of the free world…Just look at China’s economic dilemma, dude there was a lot of shit happening!

    Look am contending that some things done primarily by Republicans may have contributed (even if it is not a full 50%) to the inflation we are suffering through right now.

    Even if they are only responsible for 25% of the problem, they still have some responsibility. So much the better if it is an embarrassing and shameful event.

    Then when they decry: “Them Democrats are wrecking the nation!! Their spending caused inflation, and they have an open borders policy!!” It can be pointed out: “Inflation is not ENTIRELY the result of Democratic spending.

    The point would be to slow down their false talking points with facts. (If the facts happen to bear this out.) Then every time they speak their accusations of “Democratic Inflation!!”, they catch a little backhand slap to their own face. They will have to develop a different talking point if there is shared responsibility. It would change their argument to: “The Democrats, with some help from us, ran up some big spending that caused inflation.”

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    @Rush51

     

    In terms of inflation, there are many causes and it was something of a perfect storm of pandemic-induced supply shortages, covid relief money and the Ukraine conflict. Do you think January 6th did anything promising for the markets of the free world…Just look at China’s economic dilemma, dude there was a lot of shit happening!

    Look am contending that some things done primarily by Republicans may have contributed (even if it is not a full 50%) to the inflation we are suffering through right now.

    Even if they are only responsible for 25% of the problem, they still have some responsibility. So much the better if it is an embarrassing and shameful event.

    Then when they decry: “Them Democrats are wrecking the nation!! Their spending caused inflation, and they have an open borders policy!!” It can be pointed out: “Inflation is not ENTIRELY the result of Democratic spending.

    The point would be to slow down their false talking points with facts. (If the facts happen to bear this out.) Then every time they speak their accusations of “Democratic Inflation!!”, they catch a little backhand slap to their own face. They will have to develop a different talking point if there is shared responsibility. It would change their argument to: “The Democrats, with some help from us, ran up some big spending that caused inflation.”

     
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     Biden is the worst prez in my lifetime.......by far. He simply isn't a leader.......& insulting Americans at every turn isn't a great  way to inspire them. He tries to play the tough guy but fools no one. The rest of the world has little respect for him & certainly don't fear him.

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     Biden is the worst prez in my lifetime.......by far. He simply isn't a leader.......& insulting Americans at every turn isn't a great  way to inspire them. He tries to play the tough guy but fools no one. The rest of the world has little respect for him & certainly don't fear him.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Joe Pocket is right.  Biden inherited a mess from Trump.  The worst pandemic in over a century and a economy struggling with millions unemployed.  Under adverse circumstances, remarkable that he has more positive accomplishments in 4 years than some presidents in 8 years. 

        peace_5    100% spot on

     

     

     

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Joe Pocket is right.  Biden inherited a mess from Trump.  The worst pandemic in over a century and a economy struggling with millions unemployed.  Under adverse circumstances, remarkable that he has more positive accomplishments in 4 years than some presidents in 8 years. 

        peace_5    100% spot on

     

     

     

     

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Joe Biden enters the 2022 ranking after only a year at 19th!

     

    Donald Trump falls from #42 in 2018 down to #43

     

    To some plunging down the list to #43 alltime would be rather embarrassing.

    But Biden comes in strong at #19 -
    - despite the mess he inherited from the MAGA republicans

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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Joe Biden enters the 2022 ranking after only a year at 19th!

     

    Donald Trump falls from #42 in 2018 down to #43

     

    To some plunging down the list to #43 alltime would be rather embarrassing.

    But Biden comes in strong at #19 -
    - despite the mess he inherited from the MAGA republicans

     
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    A mess?... not even close... biden shut the economy down, printed way too much money, divided the country ...

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    A mess?... not even close... biden shut the economy down, printed way too much money, divided the country ...

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    Biden is pretty lousy he is not a leader, he does not motivate the youth or inspire. His family is a mess, he is a life long slogging politician who accomplished near nothing but cashing a check. I still dont see how Biden won the DNC spot, Sanders was leading strongly until the leadership sandbagged him. I thought he was going to bow out he was doing so poorly, it shows that the DNC did not want a progressive candidate in Sanders. Id rate Joe a D as to what he has done and how he leads, inspires, motivates..because he does none of those things. He does not divide and destroy like Trump did, he does not inspire hate and give an environment where extremists and angry people can lash out as Trump did..but no Joe is the worst after Trump, even worse than Bush I and II. To the point of inflation, the environment for inflation was bred from a decade of ZIRP, it  just needed a match to burn off the inventories that corps kept. Covid made a supply kink and disrupted JIT inventory models that the majority of corps use...so for sure Covid was on Trump's watch, the FED blowing the monetary bubble was also on Trump's watch so he has as much responsibility as Obama does but the match was lit with Covid. If anyone follows the economic news cycle its easy to find many mentions regarding the supply chain and how it is still not repaired fully. Also without ZIRP corps wont take extra risk holding inventory because it costs more and wont turn as fast...so the fact that the FED raised rates means the supply queue is less than in the past even with the supply chain working perfectly.

    Where are your sources,  Wall ? 

    As someone that follows the financial markets closely,  who the hell is talking about delivery issues impacting their financial results.   Wall, you are being  " disingenuous at best " suggesting  that the lack of supply is contributing to our inflationary problems of today.   It's DEMAND DRIVEN, not SUPPLY DRIVEN as you suggest. 

    Again, here is the clue you are wrong.  What public company on their most recent quarterly call mentioned delivery as  an issue.  WALL, seriously,  as someone that follows this stuff closely,   this hasn't been an issue for over a year  !! 

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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    Biden is pretty lousy he is not a leader, he does not motivate the youth or inspire. His family is a mess, he is a life long slogging politician who accomplished near nothing but cashing a check. I still dont see how Biden won the DNC spot, Sanders was leading strongly until the leadership sandbagged him. I thought he was going to bow out he was doing so poorly, it shows that the DNC did not want a progressive candidate in Sanders. Id rate Joe a D as to what he has done and how he leads, inspires, motivates..because he does none of those things. He does not divide and destroy like Trump did, he does not inspire hate and give an environment where extremists and angry people can lash out as Trump did..but no Joe is the worst after Trump, even worse than Bush I and II. To the point of inflation, the environment for inflation was bred from a decade of ZIRP, it  just needed a match to burn off the inventories that corps kept. Covid made a supply kink and disrupted JIT inventory models that the majority of corps use...so for sure Covid was on Trump's watch, the FED blowing the monetary bubble was also on Trump's watch so he has as much responsibility as Obama does but the match was lit with Covid. If anyone follows the economic news cycle its easy to find many mentions regarding the supply chain and how it is still not repaired fully. Also without ZIRP corps wont take extra risk holding inventory because it costs more and wont turn as fast...so the fact that the FED raised rates means the supply queue is less than in the past even with the supply chain working perfectly.

    Where are your sources,  Wall ? 

    As someone that follows the financial markets closely,  who the hell is talking about delivery issues impacting their financial results.   Wall, you are being  " disingenuous at best " suggesting  that the lack of supply is contributing to our inflationary problems of today.   It's DEMAND DRIVEN, not SUPPLY DRIVEN as you suggest. 

    Again, here is the clue you are wrong.  What public company on their most recent quarterly call mentioned delivery as  an issue.  WALL, seriously,  as someone that follows this stuff closely,   this hasn't been an issue for over a year  !! 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by joe pockets:

    @Rush51   In terms of inflation, there are many causes and it was something of a perfect storm of pandemic-induced supply shortages, covid relief money and the Ukraine conflict. Do you think January 6th did anything promising for the markets of the free world…Just look at China’s economic dilemma, dude there was a lot of shit happening! Look am contending that some things done primarily by Republicans may have contributed (even if it is not a full 50%) to the inflation we are suffering through right now. Even if they are only responsible for 25% of the problem, they still have some responsibility. So much the better if it is an embarrassing and shameful event. Then when they decry: “Them Democrats are wrecking the nation!! Their spending caused inflation, and they have an open borders policy!!” It can be pointed out: “Inflation is not ENTIRELY the result of Democratic spending. The point would be to slow down their false talking points with facts. (If the facts happen to bear this out.) Then every time they speak their accusations of “Democratic Inflation!!”, they catch a little backhand slap to their own face. They will have to develop a different talking point if there is shared responsibility. It would change their argument to: “The Democrats, with some help from us, ran up some big spending that caused inflation.”

    Dude, look at the data again  ! Do I need to remind you again the years Trump was president ?  Your ass hat of a president chose to shovel the sh"t of borrowed money down the throats of Americans.   

    Do you even understand what all this borrowing will have on us going forward.   Does $32 Trillion  resonate at all w you ?? 

    So many of you leftists are out to lunch, I wish it were you that suffered the consequences.  

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    Quote Originally Posted by joe pockets:

    @Rush51   In terms of inflation, there are many causes and it was something of a perfect storm of pandemic-induced supply shortages, covid relief money and the Ukraine conflict. Do you think January 6th did anything promising for the markets of the free world…Just look at China’s economic dilemma, dude there was a lot of shit happening! Look am contending that some things done primarily by Republicans may have contributed (even if it is not a full 50%) to the inflation we are suffering through right now. Even if they are only responsible for 25% of the problem, they still have some responsibility. So much the better if it is an embarrassing and shameful event. Then when they decry: “Them Democrats are wrecking the nation!! Their spending caused inflation, and they have an open borders policy!!” It can be pointed out: “Inflation is not ENTIRELY the result of Democratic spending. The point would be to slow down their false talking points with facts. (If the facts happen to bear this out.) Then every time they speak their accusations of “Democratic Inflation!!”, they catch a little backhand slap to their own face. They will have to develop a different talking point if there is shared responsibility. It would change their argument to: “The Democrats, with some help from us, ran up some big spending that caused inflation.”

    Dude, look at the data again  ! Do I need to remind you again the years Trump was president ?  Your ass hat of a president chose to shovel the sh"t of borrowed money down the throats of Americans.   

    Do you even understand what all this borrowing will have on us going forward.   Does $32 Trillion  resonate at all w you ?? 

    So many of you leftists are out to lunch, I wish it were you that suffered the consequences.  

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by THEMUGG:

    Biden is the worst prez in my lifetime.......by far. He simply isn't a leader.......& insulting Americans at every turn isn't a great  way to inspire them. He tries to play the tough guy but fools no one. The rest of the world has little respect for him & certainly don't fear him.

    I love his line , " whose side are your on! "  

    And yet this prick of a president is supposed to be unifying the people.... at least that's what he promised the people on his inauguration.   He's nothing but a divider, not uniter...  

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    Quote Originally Posted by THEMUGG:

    Biden is the worst prez in my lifetime.......by far. He simply isn't a leader.......& insulting Americans at every turn isn't a great  way to inspire them. He tries to play the tough guy but fools no one. The rest of the world has little respect for him & certainly don't fear him.

    I love his line , " whose side are your on! "  

    And yet this prick of a president is supposed to be unifying the people.... at least that's what he promised the people on his inauguration.   He's nothing but a divider, not uniter...  

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by joe pockets: Personally I think he is ...an absolute breath of fresh air after the F- that was Trump. Biden did get saddled with inflation but given the rabid asshattery of the Repubs are bound and determined to fuck over any Democrat in any office in the US and territories, he is doing a bang up fucking excellent job given the trainwreck he took over. Having to deal with a freaking insurrection, shepherding a mass of traitors into the slammer and everything else the human dumpsterfire left us with. This is archived historical fact now, known all over the world,  although denied by the MAGA members of the Flat Earth Society.

    peace_5   a few of them r here

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by joe pockets: Personally I think he is ...an absolute breath of fresh air after the F- that was Trump. Biden did get saddled with inflation but given the rabid asshattery of the Repubs are bound and determined to fuck over any Democrat in any office in the US and territories, he is doing a bang up fucking excellent job given the trainwreck he took over. Having to deal with a freaking insurrection, shepherding a mass of traitors into the slammer and everything else the human dumpsterfire left us with. This is archived historical fact now, known all over the world,  although denied by the MAGA members of the Flat Earth Society.

    peace_5   a few of them r here

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    yep    now well documented by intelligent people as the worst inherited mess for a new president of all time . even worse than the great recession mess obama inherited in 2009 !

     

    "I'm the MOST HONEST human being that GOD EVER created!" - Donald "the felon" Trump
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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    yep    now well documented by intelligent people as the worst inherited mess for a new president of all time . even worse than the great recession mess obama inherited in 2009 !

     

     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Joe Pocket is right.  Biden inherited a mess from Trump.  The worst pandemic in over a century and a economy struggling with millions unemployed.  Under adverse circumstances, remarkable that he has more positive accomplishments in 4 years than some presidents in 8 years.       

     

     

      peace_5 100% spot on

    @Zeus4par   peace_5

    @thirdperson  peace_5

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Joe Pocket is right.  Biden inherited a mess from Trump.  The worst pandemic in over a century and a economy struggling with millions unemployed.  Under adverse circumstances, remarkable that he has more positive accomplishments in 4 years than some presidents in 8 years.       

     

     

      peace_5 100% spot on

    @Zeus4par   peace_5

    @thirdperson  peace_5

     

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