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    Midnight1
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    Posted: Jan. 21, 2020 - 5:54 PM ET #51

    Attorney Philbin lied in the Senate. The truth is that the president's lawyer on December 1 said he would not be participating in the House Judiciary Committee hearings where he could have called witnesses.

    They lie with no intention of accepting the truth & evidence.

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    Attorney Philbin lied in the Senate. The truth is that the president's lawyer on December 1 said he would not be participating in the House Judiciary Committee hearings where he could have called witnesses.

    They lie with no intention of accepting the truth & evidence.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 21, 2020 - 6:02 PM ET #52

    Trump and the United States gave the Ukraine tank busting weaponry. The weaponry was given on time. The feminine Left under O gave the Ukraine blankets and MRE's. (meals ready to eat) How can an ally such as the Ukraine fight Russian tanks with blankets and MRE's? You can not make this up on your best day!

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    Trump and the United States gave the Ukraine tank busting weaponry. The weaponry was given on time. The feminine Left under O gave the Ukraine blankets and MRE's. (meals ready to eat) How can an ally such as the Ukraine fight Russian tanks with blankets and MRE's? You can not make this up on your best day!

     
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    Posted: Jan. 21, 2020 - 6:20 PM ET #53

    In response to the silly taunt by Philbin that the House was not ready. Adam Schiff: "The House calls John Bolton. The House calls Mick Mulvaney. Let's get this trial started."

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    In response to the silly taunt by Philbin that the House was not ready. Adam Schiff: "The House calls John Bolton. The House calls Mick Mulvaney. Let's get this trial started."

     
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    Posted: Jan. 21, 2020 - 6:25 PM ET #54

    When will McConnell take a vote to dismiss this nonsense? So far it looks as if Mitch is keeping his squishy Senators in line. 

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    When will McConnell take a vote to dismiss this nonsense? So far it looks as if Mitch is keeping his squishy Senators in line. 

     
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    Posted: Jan. 21, 2020 - 6:30 PM ET #55

    Quote Originally Posted by sundance:

    Trump and the United States gave the Ukraine tank busting weaponry. The weaponry was given on time. The feminine Left under O gave the Ukraine blankets and MRE's. (meals ready to eat) How can an ally such as the Ukraine fight Russian tanks with blankets and MRE's? You can not make this up on your best day!

    Stop the bullshit!

    Bush gave the least aid to the Ukraine & then President O doubled the aid to the Ukraine.

    Trump didn't give anything to the Ukraine. Congress approved the aid.

    Stop acting like Trump is some kind of hero. He's a coward & a lying POS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sundance:

    Trump and the United States gave the Ukraine tank busting weaponry. The weaponry was given on time. The feminine Left under O gave the Ukraine blankets and MRE's. (meals ready to eat) How can an ally such as the Ukraine fight Russian tanks with blankets and MRE's? You can not make this up on your best day!

    Stop the bullshit!

    Bush gave the least aid to the Ukraine & then President O doubled the aid to the Ukraine.

    Trump didn't give anything to the Ukraine. Congress approved the aid.

    Stop acting like Trump is some kind of hero. He's a coward & a lying POS.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 21, 2020 - 6:38 PM ET #56

    Sekulow, of course, is lying in claiming the Mueller report found "no obstruction." To the contrary, it found multiple instances where all statutory elements were met but declined to explicitly accuse the president.

    Sekulow following Schiff’s solemn and pointed opening statement sounds just like a Hannity guest in an alternate universe. I only see this pushing more and more Independents and classic R’s away from Trumpism and this whole line of defense.

    He has no respect for the law when he lies about provable facts.

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    Sekulow, of course, is lying in claiming the Mueller report found "no obstruction." To the contrary, it found multiple instances where all statutory elements were met but declined to explicitly accuse the president.

    Sekulow following Schiff’s solemn and pointed opening statement sounds just like a Hannity guest in an alternate universe. I only see this pushing more and more Independents and classic R’s away from Trumpism and this whole line of defense.

    He has no respect for the law when he lies about provable facts.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 21, 2020 - 6:46 PM ET #57

    Think of it this way: Trump has already been impeached. A healthy majority think he abused power and obstructed Congress. The trial is about whether Republican Senators want to be accomplices. It is they who are on trial.

    They should start updating their resumes.

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    Think of it this way: Trump has already been impeached. A healthy majority think he abused power and obstructed Congress. The trial is about whether Republican Senators want to be accomplices. It is they who are on trial.

    They should start updating their resumes.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 21, 2020 - 7:13 PM ET #58

    midnite - you have come off the rails and have drank the Democratic koolaid - This is exactly how ANTIFA came to be. Are you a member of ANTIFA? 

                  To me you have always sounded like a family first man and I stand with you in that respect. But, to me you are already predetermined in 

                  your conviction which I respect. However, you keep stating that the evidence proves you right .WHAT EVIDENCE - This all started by 

                  hearsay . You have Zero people with specific evidence of any wrongdoing - AGAIN, HERESAY - Nobody with first hand information. Does

                 matter at all to you, Give us someone that heard the conversation first hand, or is heresay cool with you.  Unbelievable

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    midnite - you have come off the rails and have drank the Democratic koolaid - This is exactly how ANTIFA came to be. Are you a member of ANTIFA? 

                  To me you have always sounded like a family first man and I stand with you in that respect. But, to me you are already predetermined in 

                  your conviction which I respect. However, you keep stating that the evidence proves you right .WHAT EVIDENCE - This all started by 

                  hearsay . You have Zero people with specific evidence of any wrongdoing - AGAIN, HERESAY - Nobody with first hand information. Does

                 matter at all to you, Give us someone that heard the conversation first hand, or is heresay cool with you.  Unbelievable

     
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    Posted: Jan. 21, 2020 - 7:13 PM ET #59

    Well documented. The statement of fact is O never gave lethal aid to our staunch ally the Ukraine. MRE,'s, blankets,  sheets,   Hum V''s etc. O's left handed jumper had more lethal sid than what he gave the Ukraine!

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    Well documented. The statement of fact is O never gave lethal aid to our staunch ally the Ukraine. MRE,'s, blankets,  sheets,   Hum V''s etc. O's left handed jumper had more lethal sid than what he gave the Ukraine!

     
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    Posted: Jan. 21, 2020 - 7:15 PM ET #60

    Typo. Lethal aid.

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    Typo. Lethal aid.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 21, 2020 - 7:17 PM ET #61

    Quote Originally Posted by sundance:

    Trump and the United States gave the Ukraine tank busting weaponry. The weaponry was given on time. The feminine Left under O gave the Ukraine blankets and MRE's. (meals ready to eat) How can an ally such as the Ukraine fight Russian tanks with blankets and MRE's? You can not make this up on your best day!

    Republicans involved in the impeachment trial have repeatedly touted the Trump administration's sale of anti-tank missiles to Ukraine as evidence the president is supportive of the country against Russian aggression, but they've left out key details in the process.

    Under the rules of the sale, the Javelin missiles have to be stored in western Ukraine, which is far from the front lines of the ongoing conflict in the eastern part of the country (the Donbas region) against pro-Russia separatists. 

    In short, the Javelins were essentially provided to Ukraine under the condition that they not be used in the combat zone.

    Accordingly, the Javelins have yet to be used in the fighting, though US personnel are training some Ukrainian forces how to use them against tanks.

    I know The Trump Party likes alternative facts but this is the truth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sundance:

    Trump and the United States gave the Ukraine tank busting weaponry. The weaponry was given on time. The feminine Left under O gave the Ukraine blankets and MRE's. (meals ready to eat) How can an ally such as the Ukraine fight Russian tanks with blankets and MRE's? You can not make this up on your best day!

    Republicans involved in the impeachment trial have repeatedly touted the Trump administration's sale of anti-tank missiles to Ukraine as evidence the president is supportive of the country against Russian aggression, but they've left out key details in the process.

    Under the rules of the sale, the Javelin missiles have to be stored in western Ukraine, which is far from the front lines of the ongoing conflict in the eastern part of the country (the Donbas region) against pro-Russia separatists. 

    In short, the Javelins were essentially provided to Ukraine under the condition that they not be used in the combat zone.

    Accordingly, the Javelins have yet to be used in the fighting, though US personnel are training some Ukrainian forces how to use them against tanks.

    I know The Trump Party likes alternative facts but this is the truth.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 21, 2020 - 7:22 PM ET #62

         Adam Shithead couldn't be more helpful to the Republican argument. Zero creditability(Spelling?). Keep talkin , you make it

         so easy. Just said there are better layers in the room , No Sh it. What a POS

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         Adam Shithead couldn't be more helpful to the Republican argument. Zero creditability(Spelling?). Keep talkin , you make it

         so easy. Just said there are better layers in the room , No Sh it. What a POS

     
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    Posted: Jan. 21, 2020 - 7:25 PM ET #63

    lawyers

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    lawyers

     
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    Posted: Jan. 21, 2020 - 7:27 PM ET #64

    Quote Originally Posted by Snorkel:

    midnite - you have come off the rails and have drank the Democratic koolaid - This is exactly how ANTIFA came to be. Are you a member of ANTIFA?                To me you have always sounded like a family first man and I stand with you in that respect. But, to me you are already predetermined in                your conviction which I respect. However, you keep stating that the evidence proves you right .WHAT EVIDENCE - This all started by                hearsay . You have Zero people with specific evidence of any wrongdoing - AGAIN, HERESAY - Nobody with first hand information. Does              matter at all to you, Give us someone that heard the conversation first hand, or is heresay cool with you.  Unbelievable

    I get the impression you are not a big reader. I think you are very simple person who has a hard time absorbing data and forming your own opinion. You hang on to catch phrases like "Drain the Swamp & "Build the Wall." Simple phrases that you can remember and repeat over and over again are perfect for you.

    But if you really wanted evidence I would tell you to review the House hearing as well as listening to what is being presented today.  

    I get a little tired answering your questions but I do & I have one for you.

    Why would an innocent man prevent witnesses from coming before the House to help exonerate him?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snorkel:

    midnite - you have come off the rails and have drank the Democratic koolaid - This is exactly how ANTIFA came to be. Are you a member of ANTIFA?                To me you have always sounded like a family first man and I stand with you in that respect. But, to me you are already predetermined in                your conviction which I respect. However, you keep stating that the evidence proves you right .WHAT EVIDENCE - This all started by                hearsay . You have Zero people with specific evidence of any wrongdoing - AGAIN, HERESAY - Nobody with first hand information. Does              matter at all to you, Give us someone that heard the conversation first hand, or is heresay cool with you.  Unbelievable

    I get the impression you are not a big reader. I think you are very simple person who has a hard time absorbing data and forming your own opinion. You hang on to catch phrases like "Drain the Swamp & "Build the Wall." Simple phrases that you can remember and repeat over and over again are perfect for you.

    But if you really wanted evidence I would tell you to review the House hearing as well as listening to what is being presented today.  

    I get a little tired answering your questions but I do & I have one for you.

    Why would an innocent man prevent witnesses from coming before the House to help exonerate him?

     
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    Posted: Jan. 21, 2020 - 7:35 PM ET #65

    Midnite - i do appreciate your passion and I'm cool with that- you haven't got disrespectful yet but your gettin there wouldn't you say. Why 

                 didn't the House call the witnesses? You stated earlier that another chance is coming. Not really addressing the ? When did I ever say

                 drain the swamp or build the wall? I simply asked about facts, not heresay. All your babbling is based on heresay. PERIOD. I aksed you

                 earlier if you thought the Bidens are corrupt, Your answer will tell me everything. SIMPLE is better than unrealistic BS wouldn't you

                 concur?

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    Midnite - i do appreciate your passion and I'm cool with that- you haven't got disrespectful yet but your gettin there wouldn't you say. Why 

                 didn't the House call the witnesses? You stated earlier that another chance is coming. Not really addressing the ? When did I ever say

                 drain the swamp or build the wall? I simply asked about facts, not heresay. All your babbling is based on heresay. PERIOD. I aksed you

                 earlier if you thought the Bidens are corrupt, Your answer will tell me everything. SIMPLE is better than unrealistic BS wouldn't you

                 concur?

     
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    Posted: Jan. 21, 2020 - 7:38 PM ET #66

    have a nice night. i'm out til tomorrow - from a degenerate and simple man who's opinion will always be based on facts vs heresay BS

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    have a nice night. i'm out til tomorrow - from a degenerate and simple man who's opinion will always be based on facts vs heresay BS

     
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    Posted: Jan. 21, 2020 - 8:18 PM ET #67

    Midnite - i do appreciate your passion and I'm cool with that- you haven't got disrespectful yet but your gettin there wouldn't you say. (You questioned whether I was a member of ANTIFA right? I found that disrespectful & gave you a piece of your own medicine Don't dish it out if you an't take it.)  

                 Why didn't the House call the witnesses? (They did call witnesses, Do you remember Lt.Colonel Vindman, Fiona Hill, Ambassador Sondland, William Taylor & others. They also wanted to speak with Mulvaney, Blair as well as other members of the administration but Trump prevented them from testifying. Do you hae any memory of that? Well, that's what happened.) You stated earlier that another chance is coming. (Senators will get another chance to vote on whether they want to hear from witnesses at the end of the trial. That's what I meant abut having another chance.) Not really addressing the ? When did I ever say

                 drain the swamp or build the wall? ( You have asked a number of times about the evidence which is a talking point for the right & I was making the analogy to the the Swamp & the Wall phrases) I simply asked about facts, not heresay. ( The people I mentioned above provided facts in the House hearing. There are also documents that were produced in the hearing. That is just a little bit of the evidence & if you were really paying attention you wouldn't be asking about evidence. Hearsay is another talking point & it's not a valid defense. ) All your babbling is based on heresay. (Like I said..go on house.gov.com and you can find all the evidence provided to the house. Then you don't have to take, as you say, my babbling for the truth)PERIOD. I aksed you

                 earlier if you thought the Bidens are corrupt, Your answer will tell me everything. SIMPLE is better than unrealistic BS wouldn't you

                 concur? (Corrupt, no. Do I have questions about how Hunter Biden got that job with Burisma, I sure do & have said that in another thread. Like all politicians Joe Biden had his palm greased many times. But I believe he loves this country and tries to do the right thing for the country.) 

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    Midnite - i do appreciate your passion and I'm cool with that- you haven't got disrespectful yet but your gettin there wouldn't you say. (You questioned whether I was a member of ANTIFA right? I found that disrespectful & gave you a piece of your own medicine Don't dish it out if you an't take it.)  

                 Why didn't the House call the witnesses? (They did call witnesses, Do you remember Lt.Colonel Vindman, Fiona Hill, Ambassador Sondland, William Taylor & others. They also wanted to speak with Mulvaney, Blair as well as other members of the administration but Trump prevented them from testifying. Do you hae any memory of that? Well, that's what happened.) You stated earlier that another chance is coming. (Senators will get another chance to vote on whether they want to hear from witnesses at the end of the trial. That's what I meant abut having another chance.) Not really addressing the ? When did I ever say

                 drain the swamp or build the wall? ( You have asked a number of times about the evidence which is a talking point for the right & I was making the analogy to the the Swamp & the Wall phrases) I simply asked about facts, not heresay. ( The people I mentioned above provided facts in the House hearing. There are also documents that were produced in the hearing. That is just a little bit of the evidence & if you were really paying attention you wouldn't be asking about evidence. Hearsay is another talking point & it's not a valid defense. ) All your babbling is based on heresay. (Like I said..go on house.gov.com and you can find all the evidence provided to the house. Then you don't have to take, as you say, my babbling for the truth)PERIOD. I aksed you

                 earlier if you thought the Bidens are corrupt, Your answer will tell me everything. SIMPLE is better than unrealistic BS wouldn't you

                 concur? (Corrupt, no. Do I have questions about how Hunter Biden got that job with Burisma, I sure do & have said that in another thread. Like all politicians Joe Biden had his palm greased many times. But I believe he loves this country and tries to do the right thing for the country.) 

     
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    Posted: Jan. 21, 2020 - 8:41 PM ET #68

    It sounds like Pat Cipollone is reading Trump's twitter feed verbatim.

    Not impressed. 

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    It sounds like Pat Cipollone is reading Trump's twitter feed verbatim.

    Not impressed. 

     
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    Posted: Jan. 21, 2020 - 8:53 PM ET #69

    In many ways Alan Dershowitz doesn't have much to lose in defending Trump.

    It's not like he can do worse than his last client, a pedophile hanging himself in prison.

    At least that's what law enforcement wants us to believe. 

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    In many ways Alan Dershowitz doesn't have much to lose in defending Trump.

    It's not like he can do worse than his last client, a pedophile hanging himself in prison.

    At least that's what law enforcement wants us to believe. 

     
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    Posted: Jan. 21, 2020 - 9:16 PM ET #70

    Hakeem Jeffries just destroyed Sekulow 

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    Hakeem Jeffries just destroyed Sekulow 

     
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    Posted: Jan. 21, 2020 - 9:21 PM ET #71

    WOW..Schiff just said Lavrov can get into the WH but Zelensky can't get his foot in the door.

    Trump will get spanked by Putin if that were to happen.

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    WOW..Schiff just said Lavrov can get into the WH but Zelensky can't get his foot in the door.

    Trump will get spanked by Putin if that were to happen.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 21, 2020 - 9:45 PM ET #72

    Moscow Mitch wants to stack the proposed amendments.

    In other words, we will still vote 53-47 & are not willing to listen anymore.

    Not a good look IMO. 

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    Moscow Mitch wants to stack the proposed amendments.

    In other words, we will still vote 53-47 & are not willing to listen anymore.

    Not a good look IMO. 

     
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    Posted: Jan. 21, 2020 - 9:52 PM ET #73

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    Who will be the first senator to fall asleep during the trial? My pick is Chuck Grassley

    Senator Jim Risch (R-ID) is the first to be caught sleeping followed by the other Republican Senator from Idaho Mike Crapo & Roy Blount Republican from Missouri.

    This is reported by the Idaho Statesman newspaper.  

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    Who will be the first senator to fall asleep during the trial? My pick is Chuck Grassley

    Senator Jim Risch (R-ID) is the first to be caught sleeping followed by the other Republican Senator from Idaho Mike Crapo & Roy Blount Republican from Missouri.

    This is reported by the Idaho Statesman newspaper.  

     
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    Posted: Jan. 21, 2020 - 10:46 PM ET #74

    House impeachment managers are using the president's own words -- like the president's on-camera comments that he wants witnesses -- to contradict the arguments against documents and witnesses from the president's legal team.

    Their hypocrisy is totally exposed to the country.

     

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    House impeachment managers are using the president's own words -- like the president's on-camera comments that he wants witnesses -- to contradict the arguments against documents and witnesses from the president's legal team.

    Their hypocrisy is totally exposed to the country.

     

     
     
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    Posted: Jan. 21, 2020 - 10:52 PM ET #75

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    Hakeem Jeffries just destroyed Sekulow

    "We are here sir because President Trump pressured a foreign government to target an American citizen for political and personal gain. We are here sir because President Trump solicited foreign interference in the 2020 election and corrupted our democracy.”

    This was Jeffries response to Sekulow's question "why are we here?"

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    Hakeem Jeffries just destroyed Sekulow

    "We are here sir because President Trump pressured a foreign government to target an American citizen for political and personal gain. We are here sir because President Trump solicited foreign interference in the 2020 election and corrupted our democracy.”

    This was Jeffries response to Sekulow's question "why are we here?"

     

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