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    I'm with Trump because he's a strong leader like Putin

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    Biscuiteater1
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    Posted: Sep. 9, 2016 - 10:29 PM ET #1

    I think it's high time we became more like Russia and he's just the man for the job. 
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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.
    I think it's high time we became more like Russia and he's just the man for the job. 
     
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    Posted: Sep. 9, 2016 - 11:17 PM ET #2

    Back in the USSR 
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    Back in the USSR 
     
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    Posted: Sep. 9, 2016 - 11:48 PM ET #3

    Unfortunatley, I think most folks have made up their mind...  Trump is the unconventional candidate, and I think it scares most people... but the candidate on the other side should fear more !!

     

     

     

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    Unfortunatley, I think most folks have made up their mind...  Trump is the unconventional candidate, and I think it scares most people... but the candidate on the other side should fear more !!

     

     

     

     
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    Posted: Sep. 10, 2016 - 12:04 AM ET #4

    Plus, i like how he has given to charities.
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    Plus, i like how he has given to charities.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 10, 2016 - 1:33 AM ET #5

    I get the Russia thing but I think that based on his followers and what is happening I think trump is more comparable to Kim Jong-un.   In fact Kim jong-Un wants trump over Hillary and basically a vote for trump is now a vote for North Korea but if you see the magical thinking behind so many trump supporters so how trying to justify that trump will create positive outcomes with no real solid plan or concrete policies it just makes sense. 

    So if anything North Korea wants trump and trumps supporters by the way they think and act want America to be North Korea. 

    We will see how Putin feels about the North Korean missiles.   Would be interesting if Putin wants it done and not bargain with terrorists, while trump and his buddy Kim Jong-un want to sit down and talk it out. 

    Let's give trump credit tho, if anyone can sit down and have a rational conversation with some one like Kim Jong Un it is trump.  While the rest of the world sees Kim Jong Un as an egotisitcal tyrant madman with a brainwashed following that can't be reasoned with, trump see him as someone who he can relate to and from what we have heard Kim Jong Un sees trump as someone that he can relate to. 

    Maybe it's their followers,  maybe it's their personality, maybe it's that they are kindred spirits,  maybe they just see each other as mirror images of each other.  But one thing is for sure,  if you are pro-north Korea and Kim Jong Un, vote for the American version of him. 
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    I get the Russia thing but I think that based on his followers and what is happening I think trump is more comparable to Kim Jong-un.   In fact Kim jong-Un wants trump over Hillary and basically a vote for trump is now a vote for North Korea but if you see the magical thinking behind so many trump supporters so how trying to justify that trump will create positive outcomes with no real solid plan or concrete policies it just makes sense. 

    So if anything North Korea wants trump and trumps supporters by the way they think and act want America to be North Korea. 

    We will see how Putin feels about the North Korean missiles.   Would be interesting if Putin wants it done and not bargain with terrorists, while trump and his buddy Kim Jong-un want to sit down and talk it out. 

    Let's give trump credit tho, if anyone can sit down and have a rational conversation with some one like Kim Jong Un it is trump.  While the rest of the world sees Kim Jong Un as an egotisitcal tyrant madman with a brainwashed following that can't be reasoned with, trump see him as someone who he can relate to and from what we have heard Kim Jong Un sees trump as someone that he can relate to. 

    Maybe it's their followers,  maybe it's their personality, maybe it's that they are kindred spirits,  maybe they just see each other as mirror images of each other.  But one thing is for sure,  if you are pro-north Korea and Kim Jong Un, vote for the American version of him. 
     
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    Posted: Sep. 10, 2016 - 1:57 AM ET #6

    Scary to see Trump and his supporters are praising Vladimir Putin, when did Republican presidential nominee become a Mother Russia admirer.     
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    Scary to see Trump and his supporters are praising Vladimir Putin, when did Republican presidential nominee become a Mother Russia admirer.     
     
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    Posted: Sep. 10, 2016 - 2:02 AM ET #7

    The Obama administration and Putin's Russia announced a breakthrough agreement on Syria that foresees a nationwide cease-fire starting on Monday...

    U.S. Secretary of State John (I served in Vietnam ) Kerry said

    "The United States is going the extra mile here because we believe that Russia, and my colleague, have the capability to press the Assad regime to stop this conflict and to come to the table and make peace," Kerry said, citing a number of recent meetings with Lavrov.

    "This is just the beginning of our new relations," Lavrov said.


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    The Obama administration and Putin's Russia announced a breakthrough agreement on Syria that foresees a nationwide cease-fire starting on Monday...

    U.S. Secretary of State John (I served in Vietnam ) Kerry said

    "The United States is going the extra mile here because we believe that Russia, and my colleague, have the capability to press the Assad regime to stop this conflict and to come to the table and make peace," Kerry said, citing a number of recent meetings with Lavrov.

    "This is just the beginning of our new relations," Lavrov said.


     
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    Posted: Sep. 10, 2016 - 3:15 PM ET #8

    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:

    Scary to see Trump and his supporters are praising Vladimir Putin, when did Republican presidential nominee become a Mother Russia admirer.     

    What I like about the discussion with trump and him being  a Russia fanboy is that he isn't automatically called a communist.  I think he can be completely enamoured with Putin and want to do business for his own personal gain with Russia/Putin without being labeled a communist. 

    What is scary however is his folllowers that rather than choosing the candidate that fits their ideals and values, they fit their ideals and values to trump.   That is why I made the comparison with Kim Jong Un followers and trump followers.   But this is a part of a low information uneducated following that is programmed to believe what ever their leader believes or tells them to blindly and ignorant of consequences or reality 
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    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:

    Scary to see Trump and his supporters are praising Vladimir Putin, when did Republican presidential nominee become a Mother Russia admirer.     

    What I like about the discussion with trump and him being  a Russia fanboy is that he isn't automatically called a communist.  I think he can be completely enamoured with Putin and want to do business for his own personal gain with Russia/Putin without being labeled a communist. 

    What is scary however is his folllowers that rather than choosing the candidate that fits their ideals and values, they fit their ideals and values to trump.   That is why I made the comparison with Kim Jong Un followers and trump followers.   But this is a part of a low information uneducated following that is programmed to believe what ever their leader believes or tells them to blindly and ignorant of consequences or reality 
     
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    Posted: Sep. 10, 2016 - 6:04 PM ET #9

    <---------------------- Strong like putin
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    <---------------------- Strong like putin
     
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    Posted: Sep. 10, 2016 - 7:47 PM ET #10

    Nothing wrong with a mutual admiration society between Putin and Trump. I can guarantee you that Trump will never exit AF1 from the rear after landing in China. The MSM never reported that O had to exit the rear of the plane after landing in China. I learned of this embarrassment from Alex Jones/infowars.com

    Where was O's red carpet after landing in China?
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    Nothing wrong with a mutual admiration society between Putin and Trump. I can guarantee you that Trump will never exit AF1 from the rear after landing in China. The MSM never reported that O had to exit the rear of the plane after landing in China. I learned of this embarrassment from Alex Jones/infowars.com

    Where was O's red carpet after landing in China?
     
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    Posted: Sep. 10, 2016 - 7:54 PM ET #11

    Yeah trump is a crazy narcisistic tyrant that would throw a completely impulsive man baby temper tantrum if he didn't get first class service on an airlines or with anyone that he thinks is supposed to be serving him. 

    You use this concept of a mutual admiration society.  What do you mean by that?  How would that differ from Reagan's era and what do you think Reagan and his era would think about a mutual admiration society.   To me it's starts to sound kinda one world govt.
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    Yeah trump is a crazy narcisistic tyrant that would throw a completely impulsive man baby temper tantrum if he didn't get first class service on an airlines or with anyone that he thinks is supposed to be serving him. 

    You use this concept of a mutual admiration society.  What do you mean by that?  How would that differ from Reagan's era and what do you think Reagan and his era would think about a mutual admiration society.   To me it's starts to sound kinda one world govt.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 10, 2016 - 8:09 PM ET #12

    Respect between the leaders of Russia and the US is a good thing. Putin has no respect for our half white President no does Putin have any respect for Hillary.
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    Respect between the leaders of Russia and the US is a good thing. Putin has no respect for our half white President no does Putin have any respect for Hillary.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 10, 2016 - 8:39 PM ET #13

    Putin, a strong leader and loves his country..

    Ovomit and clinton...weak leaders and hate their country....

    Trump intends to be strong....Anyone out there that thinks we will be a safer place with another weak leader rather than a strong one is deluded.

    The world has certainly changed over the last eight years...We have not kept up and have had the dumbest leadership ever imaginable to make matters worse.


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    Putin, a strong leader and loves his country..

    Ovomit and clinton...weak leaders and hate their country....

    Trump intends to be strong....Anyone out there that thinks we will be a safer place with another weak leader rather than a strong one is deluded.

    The world has certainly changed over the last eight years...We have not kept up and have had the dumbest leadership ever imaginable to make matters worse.


     
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    Posted: Sep. 10, 2016 - 8:51 PM ET #14

    It is amazing to me how people on this forum like/respect the weak leadership of O. 
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    It is amazing to me how people on this forum like/respect the weak leadership of O. 
     
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    Posted: Sep. 10, 2016 - 9:00 PM ET #15

    Trumps has a chance to win this. He has to win three states kasich Ohio rubio Florida and Cantor s Virginia.
    He needs two out of three.
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    Trumps has a chance to win this. He has to win three states kasich Ohio rubio Florida and Cantor s Virginia.
    He needs two out of three.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 11, 2016 - 12:08 AM ET #16

    1) what exactly makes Putin a strong leader ?

    In May 2015 , Putin signed Federal Law No. 97, nicknamed “the bloggers law,” which requires any blog or website with more than 3,000 daily viewers to register with Roskomnadzor as a media outlet. Under Law No. 97 and a follow-up law passed in July, social-media platforms and other internet companies processing Russian users’ data would have to store the information on servers located in Russia, where it could be accessed by authorities.
    Prosecutors in 2014 continued their practice of charging individuals—including journalists, bloggers, and whistle-blowing civil servants—with defamation, extremism, and other trumped-up criminal offenses in an effort to limit their activities.

    https://freedomhouse.org/report/freedom-press/2015/russia

    Timur Kuashev, a reporter who was critical of Russia's policy in Ukraine and highlighted the country's human rights abuses, was found dead in August 2014 after a mysterious disappearance from his home. 

    Another freelance reporter, Valeriy Donskoy, died in Moscow after "being held in harsh conditions near the Russian-Ukrainian border," Freedom House said.


    2) what is stopping "you Putin lovers" including Trump and Pence  from moving to Russia ? 

    Here is what Garry Kasparov (Russian Chessmaster) tweet about Pence


    Governor Pence, Vladimir Putin is a strong leader in the same way arsenic is a strong drink. Your country should be ashamed of you.

    5:26 PM - 8 Sep 2016

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    1) what exactly makes Putin a strong leader ?

    In May 2015 , Putin signed Federal Law No. 97, nicknamed “the bloggers law,” which requires any blog or website with more than 3,000 daily viewers to register with Roskomnadzor as a media outlet. Under Law No. 97 and a follow-up law passed in July, social-media platforms and other internet companies processing Russian users’ data would have to store the information on servers located in Russia, where it could be accessed by authorities.
    Prosecutors in 2014 continued their practice of charging individuals—including journalists, bloggers, and whistle-blowing civil servants—with defamation, extremism, and other trumped-up criminal offenses in an effort to limit their activities.

    https://freedomhouse.org/report/freedom-press/2015/russia

    Timur Kuashev, a reporter who was critical of Russia's policy in Ukraine and highlighted the country's human rights abuses, was found dead in August 2014 after a mysterious disappearance from his home. 

    Another freelance reporter, Valeriy Donskoy, died in Moscow after "being held in harsh conditions near the Russian-Ukrainian border," Freedom House said.


    2) what is stopping "you Putin lovers" including Trump and Pence  from moving to Russia ? 

    Here is what Garry Kasparov (Russian Chessmaster) tweet about Pence


    Governor Pence, Vladimir Putin is a strong leader in the same way arsenic is a strong drink. Your country should be ashamed of you.

    5:26 PM - 8 Sep 2016

     
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    Posted: Sep. 11, 2016 - 12:08 AM ET #17

    This Russia/Putin nonsense is being exaggerated for maximum effect. They found a boogeyman for you idiots to be scared of now. chumps is too light a word to describe the kind of person who falls for this crap. Well played Hillary

    Are you familiar with the old saying, "don't piss on me and then try to tell me its raining"  ? 

    Well you're getting pissed on alright, but the problem is you actually do think its raining

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    This Russia/Putin nonsense is being exaggerated for maximum effect. They found a boogeyman for you idiots to be scared of now. chumps is too light a word to describe the kind of person who falls for this crap. Well played Hillary

    Are you familiar with the old saying, "don't piss on me and then try to tell me its raining"  ? 

    Well you're getting pissed on alright, but the problem is you actually do think its raining

     
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    Posted: Sep. 11, 2016 - 9:23 AM ET #18

    Cold war ended years ago sheeple
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    Cold war ended years ago sheeple
     
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    Posted: Sep. 11, 2016 - 10:23 AM ET #19

    The only sheep are the non 'deplorables'.
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    The only sheep are the non 'deplorables'.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 11, 2016 - 12:05 PM ET #20

    Quote Originally Posted by ilsp2003:

    1) what exactly makes Putin a strong leader ?

    In May 2015 , Putin signed Federal Law No. 97, nicknamed “the bloggers law,” which requires any blog or website with more than 3,000 daily viewers to register with Roskomnadzor as a media outlet. Under Law No. 97 and a follow-up law passed in July, social-media platforms and other internet companies processing Russian users’ data would have to store the information on servers located in Russia, where it could be accessed by authorities.
    Prosecutors in 2014 continued their practice of charging individuals—including journalists, bloggers, and whistle-blowing civil servants—with defamation, extremism, and other trumped-up criminal offenses in an effort to limit their activities.

    https://freedomhouse.org/report/freedom-press/2015/russia

    Timur Kuashev, a reporter who was critical of Russia's policy in Ukraine and highlighted the country's human rights abuses, was found dead in August 2014 after a mysterious disappearance from his home. 

    Another freelance reporter, Valeriy Donskoy, died in Moscow after "being held in harsh conditions near the Russian-Ukrainian border," Freedom House said.


    2) what is stopping "you Putin lovers" including Trump and Pence  from moving to Russia ? 

    Here is what Garry Kasparov (Russian Chessmaster) tweet about Pence


    Governor Pence, Vladimir Putin is a strong leader in the same way arsenic is a strong drink. Your country should be ashamed of you.

    5:26 PM - 8 Sep 2016



    All good talking points...BUT, it changes nothing..

    We have only two choices in November....One with a past history of weak and dumb foreign policy decisions, and the other candidate with no past history as he has never held any government position.

    Nobody in our country can control what goes on in other countries, and who really cares what goes on overseas as we have our own long  list of problems that need fixing right here........WE NEED TO HAVE A STRONG LEADER FOR OUR COUNTRY AND TAKE CARE OF OUR CITIZENS....thats it......ANOTHER 4 years of weak democRAT  leadership will doom us all.

    Why people worry about other what goes on in other countries is beyond me...Most other countries hate the USA...Just like the current president Obonehead...


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    Quote Originally Posted by ilsp2003:

    1) what exactly makes Putin a strong leader ?

    In May 2015 , Putin signed Federal Law No. 97, nicknamed “the bloggers law,” which requires any blog or website with more than 3,000 daily viewers to register with Roskomnadzor as a media outlet. Under Law No. 97 and a follow-up law passed in July, social-media platforms and other internet companies processing Russian users’ data would have to store the information on servers located in Russia, where it could be accessed by authorities.
    Prosecutors in 2014 continued their practice of charging individuals—including journalists, bloggers, and whistle-blowing civil servants—with defamation, extremism, and other trumped-up criminal offenses in an effort to limit their activities.

    https://freedomhouse.org/report/freedom-press/2015/russia

    Timur Kuashev, a reporter who was critical of Russia's policy in Ukraine and highlighted the country's human rights abuses, was found dead in August 2014 after a mysterious disappearance from his home. 

    Another freelance reporter, Valeriy Donskoy, died in Moscow after "being held in harsh conditions near the Russian-Ukrainian border," Freedom House said.


    2) what is stopping "you Putin lovers" including Trump and Pence  from moving to Russia ? 

    Here is what Garry Kasparov (Russian Chessmaster) tweet about Pence


    Governor Pence, Vladimir Putin is a strong leader in the same way arsenic is a strong drink. Your country should be ashamed of you.

    5:26 PM - 8 Sep 2016



    All good talking points...BUT, it changes nothing..

    We have only two choices in November....One with a past history of weak and dumb foreign policy decisions, and the other candidate with no past history as he has never held any government position.

    Nobody in our country can control what goes on in other countries, and who really cares what goes on overseas as we have our own long  list of problems that need fixing right here........WE NEED TO HAVE A STRONG LEADER FOR OUR COUNTRY AND TAKE CARE OF OUR CITIZENS....thats it......ANOTHER 4 years of weak democRAT  leadership will doom us all.

    Why people worry about other what goes on in other countries is beyond me...Most other countries hate the USA...Just like the current president Obonehead...


     
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    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyDrizzl:





    Why people worry about other what goes on in other countries is beyond me...Most other countries hate the USA...Just like the current president Obonehead...



    O'Reilly? As someone that has traveled the world extensively, I can say that neither of the above statements is true. 
    Reply
    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyDrizzl:





    Why people worry about other what goes on in other countries is beyond me...Most other countries hate the USA...Just like the current president Obonehead...



    O'Reilly? As someone that has traveled the world extensively, I can say that neither of the above statements is true. 
     
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    Sad to leave the wife and old girley (didn't have the heart to put her down, and she surprised me and has improved 100%, sad, 16 years old, now it looks like she is going to get to 17...will miss her...but won't miss the alcoholics, who all want to "talk" with the american :-) or the young kids, who have no respect, and think they are "gangstas" (man, these boys would be hiding in the house in the US, watch a couple of videos and they think they are NWA) A a new buch of friggin Racists...you would have thought since Hitler came here and got sent home they would hate that garbage, naw...it is really bad...things have really changed here, and remember I lived here for the most part of the last 10 years...
    The older people who live on pensions get about 140 bucks a month to survive...
    Food is expensive, and most is imported, hard to understand that...when people here are happy to eat bread, and pay the electricity, people in the US want everything for nothing...not many could or would make it a month here...
    Homeless...good luck, you will freeze to death and they will find you when the snow melts...no shelters here...
    Need a doctor...good luck, go to a hospital...Yeah, go ahead, you get a old bed with a old matress..no sheets, no food, so essentially if you are sick, you need someone to buy the medicine for you, bring it to you along with food and such...have breathing problems...good luck...no oxygen here baby...just suffocate...no garbage...so if you think you have it bad, ain't nothing like going somewhere alot WORse..later

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    Email from an old friend and covers member from 2010:

    Sad to leave the wife and old girley (didn't have the heart to put her down, and she surprised me and has improved 100%, sad, 16 years old, now it looks like she is going to get to 17...will miss her...but won't miss the alcoholics, who all want to "talk" with the american :-) or the young kids, who have no respect, and think they are "gangstas" (man, these boys would be hiding in the house in the US, watch a couple of videos and they think they are NWA) A a new buch of friggin Racists...you would have thought since Hitler came here and got sent home they would hate that garbage, naw...it is really bad...things have really changed here, and remember I lived here for the most part of the last 10 years...
    The older people who live on pensions get about 140 bucks a month to survive...
    Food is expensive, and most is imported, hard to understand that...when people here are happy to eat bread, and pay the electricity, people in the US want everything for nothing...not many could or would make it a month here...
    Homeless...good luck, you will freeze to death and they will find you when the snow melts...no shelters here...
    Need a doctor...good luck, go to a hospital...Yeah, go ahead, you get a old bed with a old matress..no sheets, no food, so essentially if you are sick, you need someone to buy the medicine for you, bring it to you along with food and such...have breathing problems...good luck...no oxygen here baby...just suffocate...no garbage...so if you think you have it bad, ain't nothing like going somewhere alot WORse..later

    Russia is Great.
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    Quote Originally Posted by djbrow:


    O'Reilly? As someone that has traveled the world extensively, I can say that neither of the above statements is true. 


    Tell me this then.....Why does the muslim prez badmouth us to every foreign country he visits? All the time.

    Why did he say " I am about to fundamentally change the country"?

    If you love something ...why try and change it?
    Reply
    Quote Originally Posted by djbrow:


    O'Reilly? As someone that has traveled the world extensively, I can say that neither of the above statements is true. 


    Tell me this then.....Why does the muslim prez badmouth us to every foreign country he visits? All the time.

    Why did he say " I am about to fundamentally change the country"?

    If you love something ...why try and change it?
     
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    Because you want it to grow. Because you want it to develop. Because you want it to get stronger, more efficient.   If you love something you help it evolve, improve, become greater. 

    I'm guessing you lack the perspective of the love of parent or anyone that has helped in supporting a child move toward adult hood. 

    You seem to have such a limited and irrational point of view. It is always interesting to see how these types of people think.



    Reply
    Because you want it to grow. Because you want it to develop. Because you want it to get stronger, more efficient.   If you love something you help it evolve, improve, become greater. 

    I'm guessing you lack the perspective of the love of parent or anyone that has helped in supporting a child move toward adult hood. 

    You seem to have such a limited and irrational point of view. It is always interesting to see how these types of people think.



     
     
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    Posted: Sep. 12, 2016 - 6:37 AM ET #25

    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyDrizzl:



    Tell me this then.....Why does the muslim prez badmouth us to every foreign country he visits? All the time.

    Why did he say " I am about to fundamentally change the country"?

    If you love something ...why try and change it?

    You mean like..... make America great again? 
    Reply
    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyDrizzl:



    Tell me this then.....Why does the muslim prez badmouth us to every foreign country he visits? All the time.

    Why did he say " I am about to fundamentally change the country"?

    If you love something ...why try and change it?

    You mean like..... make America great again? 
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