Ends the week well with the prosecution having a clear edge in arguments!
Furthermore, the team representing the twice-impeached/convicted fraud/sex-offender - who is also ranked the WORST president in US history - demanded that the trial judge reciprocate and place a gag order on Michael Cohen too
It is expected trump's former lawyer of 12 years will testify Monday.
@fubah2
I am very much looking forward to this. He knows where all the bodies are buried that Trump directed him to do!
Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:
"TRUMP on TRIAL"
Friday, May 10
Ends the week well with the prosecution having a clear edge in arguments!
Furthermore, the team representing the twice-impeached/convicted fraud/sex-offender - who is also ranked the WORST president in US history - demanded that the trial judge reciprocate and place a gag order on Michael Cohen too
It is expected trump's former lawyer of 12 years will testify Monday.
@fubah2
I am very much looking forward to this. He knows where all the bodies are buried that Trump directed him to do!
Day 2 of the testimony by trump's former loyal servant, Michael Cohen, who trump threw under the bus long ago, causing Cohen to go to prison for the crimes trump set in motion.
Cross-examination very intense but most accounts agree there was no clear winner.
Another day, so it must be another day of
"TRUMP on TRIAL!"
Tuesday, May 14
Day 2 of the testimony by trump's former loyal servant, Michael Cohen, who trump threw under the bus long ago, causing Cohen to go to prison for the crimes trump set in motion.
Cross-examination very intense but most accounts agree there was no clear winner.
Day 2 of the testimony by trump's former loyal servant, Michael Cohen, who trump threw under the bus long ago, causing Cohen to go to prison for the crimes trump set in motion.
Cross-examination very intense but most accounts agree there was no clear winner.
Slight correction: consensus seems to suggest COHEN was credible and damning to the defense of the fascist wannabee dictator, despite the evil team trump trying to discredit him personally, not his actual testimony
Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:
Another day, so it must be another day of
"TRUMP on TRIAL!"
Tuesday, May 14
Day 2 of the testimony by trump's former loyal servant, Michael Cohen, who trump threw under the bus long ago, causing Cohen to go to prison for the crimes trump set in motion.
Cross-examination very intense but most accounts agree there was no clear winner.
Slight correction: consensus seems to suggest COHEN was credible and damning to the defense of the fascist wannabee dictator, despite the evil team trump trying to discredit him personally, not his actual testimony
Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Another day, so it must be another day of "TRUMP on TRIAL!" Tuesday, May 14 Day 2 of the testimony by trump's former loyal servant, Michael Cohen, who trump threw under the bus long ago, causing Cohen to go to prison for the crimes trump set in motion. Cross-examination very intense but most accounts agree there was no clear winner. Slight correction: consensus seems to suggest COHEN was credible and damning to the defense of the fascist wannabee dictator, despite the evil team trump trying to discredit him personally, not his actual testimony
I still say he won't be convicted inspite of all the evidence to the contrary
Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:
Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Another day, so it must be another day of "TRUMP on TRIAL!" Tuesday, May 14 Day 2 of the testimony by trump's former loyal servant, Michael Cohen, who trump threw under the bus long ago, causing Cohen to go to prison for the crimes trump set in motion. Cross-examination very intense but most accounts agree there was no clear winner. Slight correction: consensus seems to suggest COHEN was credible and damning to the defense of the fascist wannabee dictator, despite the evil team trump trying to discredit him personally, not his actual testimony
I still say he won't be convicted inspite of all the evidence to the contrary
with all sincerity, peace and love in the world..... what in the actual hell are you and your brethren going to do when Donald J. Trump assumes power in January of 2025 ??
never once have you replied to a direct query of mine in the past 4-5 years I've wondered around in this cess pool sub forum, so I don't actually expect an answer and that is quite OK under the rules & regs of this hosted interweb forum site (although not under the rules of man), but I am genuinely intrigued in what will happen to all the "never Trumpers" after he takes control of the most powerful Nation on this Earth come Jan 25.
If there was ever a time for Fupa to stand up tall and answer from the heart, and not the company paid mainstream media for regime narrative "guy", the time is now....
No better of a source to answer the question, "what will you and all the NT's do when the Trumper takes the power back for FOUR MORE YEARS??" The forum would appreciate your assistance in helping us all on both sides of the aisle understand the mental melt down implications. Thanks Foops
Its a fascinating situation we have here. Extra butter on my popcorn please....
Time is a flat circle....
@fubah2
with all sincerity, peace and love in the world..... what in the actual hell are you and your brethren going to do when Donald J. Trump assumes power in January of 2025 ??
never once have you replied to a direct query of mine in the past 4-5 years I've wondered around in this cess pool sub forum, so I don't actually expect an answer and that is quite OK under the rules & regs of this hosted interweb forum site (although not under the rules of man), but I am genuinely intrigued in what will happen to all the "never Trumpers" after he takes control of the most powerful Nation on this Earth come Jan 25.
If there was ever a time for Fupa to stand up tall and answer from the heart, and not the company paid mainstream media for regime narrative "guy", the time is now....
No better of a source to answer the question, "what will you and all the NT's do when the Trumper takes the power back for FOUR MORE YEARS??" The forum would appreciate your assistance in helping us all on both sides of the aisle understand the mental melt down implications. Thanks Foops
Its a fascinating situation we have here. Extra butter on my popcorn please....
When you say assumes I can only imagine via by revolution because legally like 2020 it will be Joseph Biden placing his hand on the Bible! Donald Trump even if Joseph Biden Pardons him after the 2024 election will be hammering out a divorce with 3rd wife !
@kcblitzkrieg
When you say assumes I can only imagine via by revolution because legally like 2020 it will be Joseph Biden placing his hand on the Bible! Donald Trump even if Joseph Biden Pardons him after the 2024 election will be hammering out a divorce with 3rd wife !
because legally like 2020 it will be Joseph Biden placing his hand on the Bible! Donald Trump even if Joseph Biden Pardons him after the 2024 election will be hammering out a divorce with 3rd wife !
@joe pockets
Likely. And it will cost him "bigly"
Quote Originally Posted by joe pockets:
because legally like 2020 it will be Joseph Biden placing his hand on the Bible! Donald Trump even if Joseph Biden Pardons him after the 2024 election will be hammering out a divorce with 3rd wife !
Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Another day, so it must be another day of "TRUMP on TRIAL!" Tuesday, May 14 Day 2 of the testimony by trump's former loyal servant, Michael Cohen, who trump threw under the bus long ago, causing Cohen to go to prison for the crimes trump set in motion. Cross-examination very intense but most accounts agree there was no clear winner. Slight correction: consensus seems to suggest COHEN was credible and damning to the defense of the fascist wannabee dictator, despite the evil team trump trying to discredit him personally, not his actual testimony I still say he won't be convicted inspite of all the evidence to the contrary
@Zeus4par
The consensus opinion in the non-MAGA/Fascist-supporting media seem to agree.
Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:
Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Another day, so it must be another day of "TRUMP on TRIAL!" Tuesday, May 14 Day 2 of the testimony by trump's former loyal servant, Michael Cohen, who trump threw under the bus long ago, causing Cohen to go to prison for the crimes trump set in motion. Cross-examination very intense but most accounts agree there was no clear winner. Slight correction: consensus seems to suggest COHEN was credible and damning to the defense of the fascist wannabee dictator, despite the evil team trump trying to discredit him personally, not his actual testimony I still say he won't be convicted inspite of all the evidence to the contrary
@Zeus4par
The consensus opinion in the non-MAGA/Fascist-supporting media seem to agree.
Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Another day, so it must be another day of "TRUMP on TRIAL!" Tuesday, May 14 Day 2 of the testimony by trump's former loyal servant, Michael Cohen, who trump threw under the bus long ago, causing Cohen to go to prison for the crimes trump set in motion. Cross-examination very intense but most accounts agree there was no clear winner. Slight correction: consensus seems to suggest COHEN was credible and damning to the defense of the fascist wannabee dictator, despite the evil team trump trying to discredit him personally, not his actual testimony I still say he won't be convicted inspite of all the evidence to the contrary @Zeus4par The consensus opinion in the non-MAGA/Fascist-supporting media seem to agree.
@fubah2
Have to wonder how the public will take it if it's a hung jury by a MAGAtt.
Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:
Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Another day, so it must be another day of "TRUMP on TRIAL!" Tuesday, May 14 Day 2 of the testimony by trump's former loyal servant, Michael Cohen, who trump threw under the bus long ago, causing Cohen to go to prison for the crimes trump set in motion. Cross-examination very intense but most accounts agree there was no clear winner. Slight correction: consensus seems to suggest COHEN was credible and damning to the defense of the fascist wannabee dictator, despite the evil team trump trying to discredit him personally, not his actual testimony I still say he won't be convicted inspite of all the evidence to the contrary @Zeus4par The consensus opinion in the non-MAGA/Fascist-supporting media seem to agree.
@fubah2
Have to wonder how the public will take it if it's a hung jury by a MAGAtt.
According to the Wall Street Journal, a bill, co-sponsored by Comer and Rep. Katie Porter (D-CA), "would force presidents and vice presidents to disclose their tax filings for the two years before entering the White House, for the years while in office, and for two years afterward" and "compel them, along with close family members such as children, siblings and in-laws, to disclose payments from foreign entities as well as large gifts and loans from family members."
It remains unclear whether this bill, which Comer praises as "a good product" that resolves a "gray area" in ethics law, will gain traction in the House or pass the Senate. However, it is a surprising development after former President Donald Trump spent years refusing to release his tax returns, with the blessing of Republicans in Congress.
No more MAGA HIDING?
According to the Wall Street Journal, a bill, co-sponsored by Comer and Rep. Katie Porter (D-CA), "would force presidents and vice presidents to disclose their tax filings for the two years before entering the White House, for the years while in office, and for two years afterward" and "compel them, along with close family members such as children, siblings and in-laws, to disclose payments from foreign entities as well as large gifts and loans from family members."
It remains unclear whether this bill, which Comer praises as "a good product" that resolves a "gray area" in ethics law, will gain traction in the House or pass the Senate. However, it is a surprising development after former President Donald Trump spent years refusing to release his tax returns, with the blessing of Republicans in Congress.
Have to wonder how the public will take it if it's a hung jury by a MAGAtt.
Yes, one does have to wonder.... I asked the non-resident Covers ChatThirdBot, in this case, ChatGPT4.0 this exact question. Here was the A.I. summary response:
ME: "what are the odds Donald Trump wins the 2024 election if the jury is hung"
ChatGPT4.0:
"Given these factors, it's challenging to assign precise odds, but a hung jury would likely maintain Trump's viability as a candidate more so than a guilty verdict. The political impact would depend on the specifics of the case, the broader context of the 2024 election cycle, and how well Trump and his opponents can leverage the situation. If Trump can effectively portray the hung jury as evidence of his persecution and rally his base while mitigating damage among independents, his odds of winning could remain substantial. However, ongoing legal uncertainty could also pose risks and challenges to his campaign."
Time is a flat circle....
@Zeus4par
Have to wonder how the public will take it if it's a hung jury by a MAGAtt.
Yes, one does have to wonder.... I asked the non-resident Covers ChatThirdBot, in this case, ChatGPT4.0 this exact question. Here was the A.I. summary response:
ME: "what are the odds Donald Trump wins the 2024 election if the jury is hung"
ChatGPT4.0:
"Given these factors, it's challenging to assign precise odds, but a hung jury would likely maintain Trump's viability as a candidate more so than a guilty verdict. The political impact would depend on the specifics of the case, the broader context of the 2024 election cycle, and how well Trump and his opponents can leverage the situation. If Trump can effectively portray the hung jury as evidence of his persecution and rally his base while mitigating damage among independents, his odds of winning could remain substantial. However, ongoing legal uncertainty could also pose risks and challenges to his campaign."
No more MAGA HIDING? According to the Wall Street Journal, a bill, co-sponsored by Comer and Rep. Katie Porter (D-CA), "would force presidents and vice presidents to disclose their tax filings for the two years before entering the White House, for the years while in office, and for two years afterward" and "compel them, along with close family members such as children, siblings and in-laws, to disclose payments from foreign entities as well as large gifts and loans from family members." It remains unclear whether this bill, which Comer praises as "a good product" that resolves a "gray area" in ethics law, will gain traction in the House or pass the Senate. However, it is a surprising development after former President Donald Trump spent years refusing to release his tax returns, with the blessing of Republicans in Congress.
this bill should b welcomed by all who believe in transparency
"I'm the MOST HONEST human being that GOD EVER created!" - Donald "the felon" Trump
Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:
No more MAGA HIDING? According to the Wall Street Journal, a bill, co-sponsored by Comer and Rep. Katie Porter (D-CA), "would force presidents and vice presidents to disclose their tax filings for the two years before entering the White House, for the years while in office, and for two years afterward" and "compel them, along with close family members such as children, siblings and in-laws, to disclose payments from foreign entities as well as large gifts and loans from family members." It remains unclear whether this bill, which Comer praises as "a good product" that resolves a "gray area" in ethics law, will gain traction in the House or pass the Senate. However, it is a surprising development after former President Donald Trump spent years refusing to release his tax returns, with the blessing of Republicans in Congress.
this bill should b welcomed by all who believe in transparency
No more MAGA HIDING? According to the Wall Street Journal, a bill, co-sponsored by Comer and Rep. Katie Porter (D-CA), "would force presidents and vice presidents to disclose their tax filings for the two years before entering the White House, for the years while in office, and for two years afterward" and "compel them, along with close family members such as children, siblings and in-laws, to disclose payments from foreign entities as well as large gifts and loans from family members." It remains unclear whether this bill, which Comer praises as "a good product" that resolves a "gray area" in ethics law, will gain traction in the House or pass the Senate. However, it is a surprising development after former President Donald Trump spent years refusing to release his tax returns, with the blessing of Republicans in Congress.
this bill should b welcomed by all who believe in transparency
"I'm the MOST HONEST human being that GOD EVER created!" - Donald "the felon" Trump
Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:
No more MAGA HIDING? According to the Wall Street Journal, a bill, co-sponsored by Comer and Rep. Katie Porter (D-CA), "would force presidents and vice presidents to disclose their tax filings for the two years before entering the White House, for the years while in office, and for two years afterward" and "compel them, along with close family members such as children, siblings and in-laws, to disclose payments from foreign entities as well as large gifts and loans from family members." It remains unclear whether this bill, which Comer praises as "a good product" that resolves a "gray area" in ethics law, will gain traction in the House or pass the Senate. However, it is a surprising development after former President Donald Trump spent years refusing to release his tax returns, with the blessing of Republicans in Congress.
this bill should b welcomed by all who believe in transparency
Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: No more MAGA HIDING? According to the Wall Street Journal, a bill, co-sponsored by Comer and Rep. Katie Porter (D-CA), "would force presidents and vice presidents to disclose their tax filings for the two years before entering the White House, for the years while in office, and for two years afterward" and "compel them, along with close family members such as children, siblings and in-laws, to disclose payments from foreign entities as well as large gifts and loans from family members." It remains unclear whether this bill, which Comer praises as "a good product" that resolves a "gray area" in ethics law, will gain traction in the House or pass the Senate. However, it is a surprising development after former President Donald Trump spent years refusing to release his tax returns, with the blessing of Republicans in Congress.
this bill should b welcomed by all who believe in transparency
@KellyM_1964
"Should" being the key operative word there.
Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:
Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: No more MAGA HIDING? According to the Wall Street Journal, a bill, co-sponsored by Comer and Rep. Katie Porter (D-CA), "would force presidents and vice presidents to disclose their tax filings for the two years before entering the White House, for the years while in office, and for two years afterward" and "compel them, along with close family members such as children, siblings and in-laws, to disclose payments from foreign entities as well as large gifts and loans from family members." It remains unclear whether this bill, which Comer praises as "a good product" that resolves a "gray area" in ethics law, will gain traction in the House or pass the Senate. However, it is a surprising development after former President Donald Trump spent years refusing to release his tax returns, with the blessing of Republicans in Congress.
this bill should b welcomed by all who believe in transparency
feel like bugs bunny and took a wrong turn in albuquerque ... was looking in the ALL FORUMS FOR INDY 500 ... as for the thread without looking much.... "you will know them by their fruits" look at polices not people ... have a nice day ..... i bet 5 longer shots 2 dollars each to win indy ... for fun .. have a nice holiday everyone
goldfinger 1964
feel like bugs bunny and took a wrong turn in albuquerque ... was looking in the ALL FORUMS FOR INDY 500 ... as for the thread without looking much.... "you will know them by their fruits" look at polices not people ... have a nice day ..... i bet 5 longer shots 2 dollars each to win indy ... for fun .. have a nice holiday everyone
$1.2B spent on lobbying in Q1 — to block climate action block universal healthcare keep wages low keep drug costs high keep billionaire's taxes low protect union busters sell more weapons…..Who do you think got the Bulk of them checks?
If a politician says a necessary policy is "radical," it's because they're paid to say it.
$1.2B spent on lobbying in Q1 — to block climate action block universal healthcare keep wages low keep drug costs high keep billionaire's taxes low protect union busters sell more weapons…..Who do you think got the Bulk of them checks?
If a politician says a necessary policy is "radical," it's because they're paid to say it.
$1.2B spent on lobbying in Q1 — to block climate action block universal healthcare keep wages low keep drug costs high keep billionaire's taxes low protect union busters sell more weapons…..Who do you think got the Bulk of them checks? If a politician says a necessary policy is "radical," it's because they're paid to say it. https://www.opensecrets.org/news/2024/05/federal-lobbying-spending-tops-1-billion-in-q1-first-quarter-of-2024/
So the forces of rightwing evil and corruption have clearly been busy!
Quote Originally Posted by joe pockets:
$1.2B spent on lobbying in Q1 — to block climate action block universal healthcare keep wages low keep drug costs high keep billionaire's taxes low protect union busters sell more weapons…..Who do you think got the Bulk of them checks? If a politician says a necessary policy is "radical," it's because they're paid to say it. https://www.opensecrets.org/news/2024/05/federal-lobbying-spending-tops-1-billion-in-q1-first-quarter-of-2024/
So the forces of rightwing evil and corruption have clearly been busy!
Interesting trial, but the consensus all along, including right here on this forum, is that while the POS is guilty, the jury will allow him to escape justice. He didn't escape justice in the massive FRAUD trial and didn't escape justice in the rape trials, but we expect that he will here.
He has also escaped justice by having SCOTUS deliberately drag their feet on his behalf regarding an "immunity" case - thus setting back three criminal trials until AFTER the election......and without knowledge of the trials and effects the voters might well vote him back in....whereupon he will politicize the DOJ and make those criminal cases disappear. (it should be noted that he falsely accuses Biden of politicizing the justice system against him - despite no proof of that - yet it's clear HE will do it if elected - likely in the first week)
TRUMP on TRIAL!
resumes today, May 28 with closing arguments
Interesting trial, but the consensus all along, including right here on this forum, is that while the POS is guilty, the jury will allow him to escape justice. He didn't escape justice in the massive FRAUD trial and didn't escape justice in the rape trials, but we expect that he will here.
He has also escaped justice by having SCOTUS deliberately drag their feet on his behalf regarding an "immunity" case - thus setting back three criminal trials until AFTER the election......and without knowledge of the trials and effects the voters might well vote him back in....whereupon he will politicize the DOJ and make those criminal cases disappear. (it should be noted that he falsely accuses Biden of politicizing the justice system against him - despite no proof of that - yet it's clear HE will do it if elected - likely in the first week)
NO that isn't it. He isn't going to get convicted because in this country there has to be guilt beyond a reasonable doubt. I read the transcripts. There isn't anything tying Trump to this beyond Cohen who is an admitted liar and frankly on partial immunity for his testimony. Plus the testimony that the money was for his attorneys fees in connection with other representation (i.e. the Apprentice defamation case) which seemly a stretch is credible enough not be proven untrue. If he is cooking his books likely no one knows but himself and he isn't going to admit it. The other witness was the porn star, adulterer, opportunist and extortionist herself (Stormie Daniels). You can't convict anyone on her testimony alone. Bottom line there is no smoking gun. Nothing that you can really hang your hat one with 100% (or near 100% certainty). I am certain too that Trump did this. Any intelligent person can see this seems pretty shady. But that isn't the fricking LEGAL STANDARD. Like him, hate him, indifferent the law is the law. I am certain the left won't stop trying to convict him of something. I am also certain there is plenty they could try to convict him on. Sure wish the left would put the same energy in cleaning up the corrupt politicians on their side of the aisle. I am certain that is too much to ask.
@fubah2
NO that isn't it. He isn't going to get convicted because in this country there has to be guilt beyond a reasonable doubt. I read the transcripts. There isn't anything tying Trump to this beyond Cohen who is an admitted liar and frankly on partial immunity for his testimony. Plus the testimony that the money was for his attorneys fees in connection with other representation (i.e. the Apprentice defamation case) which seemly a stretch is credible enough not be proven untrue. If he is cooking his books likely no one knows but himself and he isn't going to admit it. The other witness was the porn star, adulterer, opportunist and extortionist herself (Stormie Daniels). You can't convict anyone on her testimony alone. Bottom line there is no smoking gun. Nothing that you can really hang your hat one with 100% (or near 100% certainty). I am certain too that Trump did this. Any intelligent person can see this seems pretty shady. But that isn't the fricking LEGAL STANDARD. Like him, hate him, indifferent the law is the law. I am certain the left won't stop trying to convict him of something. I am also certain there is plenty they could try to convict him on. Sure wish the left would put the same energy in cleaning up the corrupt politicians on their side of the aisle. I am certain that is too much to ask.
resumes today, May 28 with closing arguments Interesting trial, but the consensus all along, including right here on this forum, is that while the POS is guilty, the jury will allow him to escape justice. He didn't escape justice in the massive FRAUD trial and didn't escape justice in the rape trials, but we expect that he will here. He has also escaped justice by having SCOTUS deliberately drag their feet on his behalf regarding an "immunity" case - thus setting back three criminal trials until AFTER the election......and without knowledge of the trials and effects the voters might well vote him back in....whereupon he will politicize the DOJ and make those criminal cases disappear. (it should be noted that he falsely accuses Biden of politicizing the justice system against him - despite no proof of that - yet it's clear HE will do it if elected - likely in the first week)
@fubah2
Yep the people on the forum who do not support a 2 time impeached convicted fraud and fascist for president are all agreed with that nationwide consensus
Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:
TRUMP on TRIAL!
resumes today, May 28 with closing arguments Interesting trial, but the consensus all along, including right here on this forum, is that while the POS is guilty, the jury will allow him to escape justice. He didn't escape justice in the massive FRAUD trial and didn't escape justice in the rape trials, but we expect that he will here. He has also escaped justice by having SCOTUS deliberately drag their feet on his behalf regarding an "immunity" case - thus setting back three criminal trials until AFTER the election......and without knowledge of the trials and effects the voters might well vote him back in....whereupon he will politicize the DOJ and make those criminal cases disappear. (it should be noted that he falsely accuses Biden of politicizing the justice system against him - despite no proof of that - yet it's clear HE will do it if elected - likely in the first week)
@fubah2
Yep the people on the forum who do not support a 2 time impeached convicted fraud and fascist for president are all agreed with that nationwide consensus
Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: TRUMP on TRIAL! resumes today, May 28 with closing arguments Interesting trial, but the consensus all along, including right here on this forum, is that while the POS is guilty, the jury will allow him to escape justice. He didn't escape justice in the massive FRAUD trial and didn't escape justice in the rape trials, but we expect that he will here. He has also escaped justice by having SCOTUS deliberately drag their feet on his behalf regarding an "immunity" case - thus setting back three criminal trials until AFTER the election......and without knowledge of the trials and effects the voters might well vote him back in....whereupon he will politicize the DOJ and make those criminal cases disappear. (it should be noted that he falsely accuses Biden of politicizing the justice system against him - despite no proof of that - yet it's clear HE will do it if elected - likely in the first week) @fubah2 Yep the people on the forum who do not support a 2 time impeached convicted fraud and fascist for president are all agreed with that nationwide consensus
@Zeus4par
Exactly. The jury will let him off the hook... Watch and see.
Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:
Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: TRUMP on TRIAL! resumes today, May 28 with closing arguments Interesting trial, but the consensus all along, including right here on this forum, is that while the POS is guilty, the jury will allow him to escape justice. He didn't escape justice in the massive FRAUD trial and didn't escape justice in the rape trials, but we expect that he will here. He has also escaped justice by having SCOTUS deliberately drag their feet on his behalf regarding an "immunity" case - thus setting back three criminal trials until AFTER the election......and without knowledge of the trials and effects the voters might well vote him back in....whereupon he will politicize the DOJ and make those criminal cases disappear. (it should be noted that he falsely accuses Biden of politicizing the justice system against him - despite no proof of that - yet it's clear HE will do it if elected - likely in the first week) @fubah2 Yep the people on the forum who do not support a 2 time impeached convicted fraud and fascist for president are all agreed with that nationwide consensus
@Zeus4par
Exactly. The jury will let him off the hook... Watch and see.
@fubah2 NO that isn't it. He isn't going to get convicted because in this country there has to be guilt beyond a reasonable doubt. I read the transcripts. There isn't anything tying Trump to this beyond Cohen who is an admitted liar and frankly on partial immunity for his testimony. Plus the testimony that the money was for his attorneys fees in connection with other representation (i.e. the Apprentice defamation case) which seemly a stretch is credible enough not be proven untrue. If he is cooking his books likely no one knows but himself and he isn't going to admit it. The other witness was the porn star, adulterer, opportunist and extortionist herself (Stormie Daniels). You can't convict anyone on her testimony alone. Bottom line there is no smoking gun. Nothing that you can really hang your hat one with 100% (or near 100% certainty). I am certain too that Trump did this. Any intelligent person can see this seems pretty shady. But that isn't the fricking LEGAL STANDARD. Like him, hate him, indifferent the law is the law. I am certain the left won't stop trying to convict him of something. I am also certain there is plenty they could try to convict him on. Sure wish the left would put the same energy in cleaning up the corrupt politicians on their side of the aisle. I am certain that is too much to ask.
Yep not a response. Per usual. One either too stupid to actually be able to intelligently respond to a proper legal analysis of the situation or two can't admit (or want to turn a blind eye on) that the left is just as corrupt as the right. This is how low politics has become in this country. Perfect!
Quote Originally Posted by jesron1269:
@fubah2 NO that isn't it. He isn't going to get convicted because in this country there has to be guilt beyond a reasonable doubt. I read the transcripts. There isn't anything tying Trump to this beyond Cohen who is an admitted liar and frankly on partial immunity for his testimony. Plus the testimony that the money was for his attorneys fees in connection with other representation (i.e. the Apprentice defamation case) which seemly a stretch is credible enough not be proven untrue. If he is cooking his books likely no one knows but himself and he isn't going to admit it. The other witness was the porn star, adulterer, opportunist and extortionist herself (Stormie Daniels). You can't convict anyone on her testimony alone. Bottom line there is no smoking gun. Nothing that you can really hang your hat one with 100% (or near 100% certainty). I am certain too that Trump did this. Any intelligent person can see this seems pretty shady. But that isn't the fricking LEGAL STANDARD. Like him, hate him, indifferent the law is the law. I am certain the left won't stop trying to convict him of something. I am also certain there is plenty they could try to convict him on. Sure wish the left would put the same energy in cleaning up the corrupt politicians on their side of the aisle. I am certain that is too much to ask.
Yep not a response. Per usual. One either too stupid to actually be able to intelligently respond to a proper legal analysis of the situation or two can't admit (or want to turn a blind eye on) that the left is just as corrupt as the right. This is how low politics has become in this country. Perfect!
"TRUMP on TRIAL!"
TRUMP on TRIAL!
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