Next peaceful "no kings" protests are scheduled for October 18. American civil liberty union and American federation of teachers are among almost 200 sponsors of one of the largest protests in US history. Potentially millions of people expected to protest authoritarian policies of Trump.
down with trump's 4th REICH!
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Next peaceful "no kings" protests are scheduled for October 18. American civil liberty union and American federation of teachers are among almost 200 sponsors of one of the largest protests in US history. Potentially millions of people expected to protest authoritarian policies of Trump.
Major airports refuse to air Kristi Noem's video wrongfully bashing Democrats
Airport spokespeople say the decision was made because the message blaming Democrats for the government shutdown violates the Hatch Act.
“We did not consent to playing the video in its current form, as the Hatch Act clearly prohibits use of public assets for political purposes and messaging,” they said, referencing the 1939 law that limits certain political activities of federal employees.
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Major airports refuse to air Kristi Noem's video wrongfully bashing Democrats
Airport spokespeople say the decision was made because the message blaming Democrats for the government shutdown violates the Hatch Act.
“We did not consent to playing the video in its current form, as the Hatch Act clearly prohibits use of public assets for political purposes and messaging,” they said, referencing the 1939 law that limits certain political activities of federal employees.
Republicans demonize anti-Trump protests as not legitimate although US constitution protects the right to protest. That is what happens in authoritarian regimes.
Republicans demonize anti-Trump protests as not legitimate although US constitution protects the right to protest. That is what happens in authoritarian regimes.
Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Judge demands answers from Trump regime on their violence against protesters they r assaulting peaceful protestors !
They are and a federal judge is angry that trump's GESTAPO is ignoring her legal court order!
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Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Judge demands answers from Trump regime on their violence against protesters they r assaulting peaceful protestors !
They are and a federal judge is angry that trump's GESTAPO is ignoring her legal court order!
Republicans demonize anti-Trump protests as not legitimate although US constitution protects the right to protest. That is what happens in authoritarian regimes.
Fascism.
Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:
Republicans demonize anti-Trump protests as not legitimate although US constitution protects the right to protest. That is what happens in authoritarian regimes.
Propublica found that over 170 US citizens have been arrested by ICE agents. They have been kicked, dragged and detained for days. Unlike past administrations, Trump policy is to quickly deport every suspect. Even those who shouldn't be deported such as legal immigrants without criminal record.
Propublica found that over 170 US citizens have been arrested by ICE agents. They have been kicked, dragged and detained for days. Unlike past administrations, Trump policy is to quickly deport every suspect. Even those who shouldn't be deported such as legal immigrants without criminal record.
Skip due process on the way in to the country but want it on the way out...only in America..I would venture to say that anyone who has had their family affected by an illegal in some way would have a problem with this...what I do know, being from California, is that many immigrants that came here by way of due process, are pissed off that many come here expecting to skip that process while they complied...it infuriates them....that should tell you a lot...if this were any other country people would have no problem with getting their illegals out of the country by any means necessary....and SOME, not all, of these being treated that way, from what I have seen, are a bit combative and resisting..that is, of course, subjective but they are not all going willingly and are putting up a fight.....shit happens...I wouldn't want that job of grabbing any of these people...
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Skip due process on the way in to the country but want it on the way out...only in America..I would venture to say that anyone who has had their family affected by an illegal in some way would have a problem with this...what I do know, being from California, is that many immigrants that came here by way of due process, are pissed off that many come here expecting to skip that process while they complied...it infuriates them....that should tell you a lot...if this were any other country people would have no problem with getting their illegals out of the country by any means necessary....and SOME, not all, of these being treated that way, from what I have seen, are a bit combative and resisting..that is, of course, subjective but they are not all going willingly and are putting up a fight.....shit happens...I wouldn't want that job of grabbing any of these people...
Another ICE brown skin take down of an American citizen on tape after they rammed the guys truck. I guess this is just normal collateral damage for the greater good.
Another ICE brown skin take down of an American citizen on tape after they rammed the guys truck. I guess this is just normal collateral damage for the greater good.
Another ICE brown skin take down of an American citizen on tape after they rammed the guys truck. I guess this is just normal collateral damage for the greater good.
New poll released today shows trump is underwater nationally by -24pts!
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Another ICE brown skin take down of an American citizen on tape after they rammed the guys truck. I guess this is just normal collateral damage for the greater good.
New poll released today shows trump is underwater nationally by -24pts!
Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers: Another ICE brown skin take down of an American citizen on tape after they rammed the guys truck. I guess this is just normal collateral damage for the greater good. New poll released today shows trump is underwater nationally by -24pts!
i heard it too , on CNN
The Pastor of Disaster
Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:
Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers: Another ICE brown skin take down of an American citizen on tape after they rammed the guys truck. I guess this is just normal collateral damage for the greater good. New poll released today shows trump is underwater nationally by -24pts!
[Quote: Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers]Another ICE brown skin take down of an American citizen on tape after they rammed the guys truck. I guess this is just normal collateral damage for the greater good.[/Quote
what is the problem with arresting and deporting criminals ? after the Biden Regime let in 20 million + unvetted ones
Physics action - re -action
you see the beginning of these policies now finally in W Europe
The Pastor of Disaster
[Quote: Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers]Another ICE brown skin take down of an American citizen on tape after they rammed the guys truck. I guess this is just normal collateral damage for the greater good.[/Quote
what is the problem with arresting and deporting criminals ? after the Biden Regime let in 20 million + unvetted ones
Physics action - re -action
you see the beginning of these policies now finally in W Europe
Under Trump administration, 70-75% of ICE detainees have no criminal record. Most illegal immigrants enter US legally but overstay their visas. Unlikely there are 30 million illegal immigrants in the US. If true, their crime rate must be the lowest of any population or 80% less than the crime rate of US born citizens. Also illegal immigrants must be paying more taxes than what they receive in government benefits. In general, economists see immigration as positive for US economy in the long term.
@Barbarossa "problem with deporting immigrants"
Under Trump administration, 70-75% of ICE detainees have no criminal record. Most illegal immigrants enter US legally but overstay their visas. Unlikely there are 30 million illegal immigrants in the US. If true, their crime rate must be the lowest of any population or 80% less than the crime rate of US born citizens. Also illegal immigrants must be paying more taxes than what they receive in government benefits. In general, economists see immigration as positive for US economy in the long term.
So you are ok with American citizens being abused, detained and interrogated let alone those innocent seeking the proper channels for becoming citizens? This ICE daily thug display is nothing about removing illegals if even ONE innocent citizen is wrongfully and criminally profiled due to skin color.
How exactly does your side validate and elevate these kinds of human right and citizen abuses? Oopsie we didnt mean to ram your car, oopsie we didnt mean to throw you down on the ground in a public place, oopsie we handcuffed and detained you because you look like an illegal?
This is a disgusting step backwards even for the GOP but especially for those non-white humans living in this country.
@Barbarossa
So you are ok with American citizens being abused, detained and interrogated let alone those innocent seeking the proper channels for becoming citizens? This ICE daily thug display is nothing about removing illegals if even ONE innocent citizen is wrongfully and criminally profiled due to skin color.
How exactly does your side validate and elevate these kinds of human right and citizen abuses? Oopsie we didnt mean to ram your car, oopsie we didnt mean to throw you down on the ground in a public place, oopsie we handcuffed and detained you because you look like an illegal?
This is a disgusting step backwards even for the GOP but especially for those non-white humans living in this country.
Why do all the people being rounded up HAVE to be criminals? If you are not here legally, even if it was over staying your visa, then why should you be allowed to be here?
This is setting aside that Trump may have given the order to deport criminals is it possible that as ICE got into this process it is just that America has way illegals here than anticipated? If you are here illegally you should be deported To me, the criminal or dangerous people is only an aspect of this not a definition. You shouldn't be here illegally and if you are you should be removed. Follow the rules like those before you or expect to be removed. It's simple. Rules should apply to everyone not just some.
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Why do all the people being rounded up HAVE to be criminals? If you are not here legally, even if it was over staying your visa, then why should you be allowed to be here?
This is setting aside that Trump may have given the order to deport criminals is it possible that as ICE got into this process it is just that America has way illegals here than anticipated? If you are here illegally you should be deported To me, the criminal or dangerous people is only an aspect of this not a definition. You shouldn't be here illegally and if you are you should be removed. Follow the rules like those before you or expect to be removed. It's simple. Rules should apply to everyone not just some.
Not sure you were commenting on my reply but if so you missed the only point, if ONE innocent citizen is abused then the whole thing needs to go away and we know more than one has so to me that means the opp is a failure and is doing too much harm. This is profiling 101 and how many examples of abuses need to be shown before everyone including you understands what profiling is and why it is both against the law and very destructive?
How many citizens need to be stalked, harassed, detained, physically assaulted before it has gone too far and needs to end? And to your question why is the issue circling around illegals and not about crime? Who cares if someone is living here paying taxes working and adding to society, why the need to remove all and any non criminal illegals? Why is the focus not squarely on harm and crime and not about skin color and race?
Maybe some people only learn when THEY are the ones on the ground with their face shoved into the asphalt and arms violently pulled back and handcuffed with barbaric idiot white men yelling at them or being stalked and tailed from again white men trying to profile them...maybe the only way SOME people learn is from it happening to them and how sad is that?
You cannot blanket remove all and any illegals without doing MASSIVE harm to both citizens and innocent people when this country has always been open to law abiding people who are seeking opportunity. With the TNC if you are seeking opportunity and are not criminal it does not matter you can and are thrown into a van and deported even when you follow the archaic and outdated measures to become a citizen.
@ABooksNightmare
Not sure you were commenting on my reply but if so you missed the only point, if ONE innocent citizen is abused then the whole thing needs to go away and we know more than one has so to me that means the opp is a failure and is doing too much harm. This is profiling 101 and how many examples of abuses need to be shown before everyone including you understands what profiling is and why it is both against the law and very destructive?
How many citizens need to be stalked, harassed, detained, physically assaulted before it has gone too far and needs to end? And to your question why is the issue circling around illegals and not about crime? Who cares if someone is living here paying taxes working and adding to society, why the need to remove all and any non criminal illegals? Why is the focus not squarely on harm and crime and not about skin color and race?
Maybe some people only learn when THEY are the ones on the ground with their face shoved into the asphalt and arms violently pulled back and handcuffed with barbaric idiot white men yelling at them or being stalked and tailed from again white men trying to profile them...maybe the only way SOME people learn is from it happening to them and how sad is that?
You cannot blanket remove all and any illegals without doing MASSIVE harm to both citizens and innocent people when this country has always been open to law abiding people who are seeking opportunity. With the TNC if you are seeking opportunity and are not criminal it does not matter you can and are thrown into a van and deported even when you follow the archaic and outdated measures to become a citizen.
I hate you guys use Europe to justify those politics ! Guys we have less space than you, we have almost double the population and if we just opened the immigration floodgates - we would face 1 billion+ from Africa and a couple 100 million from Middle East - we don't have a choice ! If you want to be racist just own up to it - don't go like - "The other white people also do it" - unless you understand the clear differences between our two continents in regards to it
Don't mention the frogs - we don't want to scare the toddler - we want him to sleep
@Barbarossa
I hate you guys use Europe to justify those politics ! Guys we have less space than you, we have almost double the population and if we just opened the immigration floodgates - we would face 1 billion+ from Africa and a couple 100 million from Middle East - we don't have a choice ! If you want to be racist just own up to it - don't go like - "The other white people also do it" - unless you understand the clear differences between our two continents in regards to it
It's funny that is brought up about the treatment of these people when the Biden and Obama and Bush administrations had many reports of lawsuits filed for allegedly doimg the same thing with deportations and excessive force and tactical aggression. I don't recall negative reactions from some in here when that was taking place.
What i do notice is that the difference between how this administration is portrayed in the news versus how it was portrayed during the prior administration's I mentioned above. Could it be because the national guard was deployed? Did anyone stop and think that maybe they were deployed because of the previous contention that was present during Biden and Obama and Bush? There are things that many Americans are not privy to so is it possible?
A lot more news coverage about this today than I can recall previously that is for sure.
Not sure it's fair to call this more inhumane when this type of stuff was happening previously but because it didnt get the same news coverage back then as it is today it'sviewed differently. It seems to be the same ol same ol and a long term problem here in the US. Everyone wants to pont the finger here at this administration, but imfo i pull up looks to be same in past administrations with the same types of things happening. What's the difference here?
COVERS allows u to tell someone they are sexually frustrated so long as ur hands are clean
It's funny that is brought up about the treatment of these people when the Biden and Obama and Bush administrations had many reports of lawsuits filed for allegedly doimg the same thing with deportations and excessive force and tactical aggression. I don't recall negative reactions from some in here when that was taking place.
What i do notice is that the difference between how this administration is portrayed in the news versus how it was portrayed during the prior administration's I mentioned above. Could it be because the national guard was deployed? Did anyone stop and think that maybe they were deployed because of the previous contention that was present during Biden and Obama and Bush? There are things that many Americans are not privy to so is it possible?
A lot more news coverage about this today than I can recall previously that is for sure.
Not sure it's fair to call this more inhumane when this type of stuff was happening previously but because it didnt get the same news coverage back then as it is today it'sviewed differently. It seems to be the same ol same ol and a long term problem here in the US. Everyone wants to pont the finger here at this administration, but imfo i pull up looks to be same in past administrations with the same types of things happening. What's the difference here?
So you are suggesting I was in support of inhumane actions because the previous admins were DEMS? Can you show me based on my posts and words where this is the case?
I'm one of the few in this joint do does not do as you described and on top of that you are deflecting and minimizing because the media reports awful harms done to citizens and HUMANS?
You cannot say that for you things are not partisan and then type the above reply, you are proving that this and likely most things ARE partisan and it is about what party you support more than abuses being done and the constitution being trampled on.
Not a good look for you there..
@ABooksNightmare
So you are suggesting I was in support of inhumane actions because the previous admins were DEMS? Can you show me based on my posts and words where this is the case?
I'm one of the few in this joint do does not do as you described and on top of that you are deflecting and minimizing because the media reports awful harms done to citizens and HUMANS?
You cannot say that for you things are not partisan and then type the above reply, you are proving that this and likely most things ARE partisan and it is about what party you support more than abuses being done and the constitution being trampled on.
Ok so lets refine my comment then, why are you apologizing for Trump? Previous admins if you are including both sides that has zero to do with Trump. I do not recall seeing citizens being stalked from unmarked ICE cars, being t-boned and thrown to the ground, I do not recall seeing brown people being throttled in public in hospitals in court rooms in open society by white men under the guise of illegals.
Now down HERE yes that happened for decades under Arpaio and Joe was prosecuted and sued for decades for his profiling and abuses to citizens and illegals. Trump is just the same as Arpaio and it is no shock that Trump took recourse away from Joe and let him off the hook, same goes for Santos. I find it disgusting the way Trump stomps on the rights of citizens and on the constitution and I am unsure why you feel inclined to deflect for him and minimize what he is doing.
@ABooksNightmare
Ok so lets refine my comment then, why are you apologizing for Trump? Previous admins if you are including both sides that has zero to do with Trump. I do not recall seeing citizens being stalked from unmarked ICE cars, being t-boned and thrown to the ground, I do not recall seeing brown people being throttled in public in hospitals in court rooms in open society by white men under the guise of illegals.
Now down HERE yes that happened for decades under Arpaio and Joe was prosecuted and sued for decades for his profiling and abuses to citizens and illegals. Trump is just the same as Arpaio and it is no shock that Trump took recourse away from Joe and let him off the hook, same goes for Santos. I find it disgusting the way Trump stomps on the rights of citizens and on the constitution and I am unsure why you feel inclined to deflect for him and minimize what he is doing.
Sometimes talking with you comes off as very combative because you are quick to find blame or fault in a poster or what was said instead of focusing on what was actually said. This creates contention in the discussion from the start and why it is very difficult to have reasonable conversations sometimes. Like right now, you were so quick to act like I said things that were not actually stated and for what reason? To build some vase that I am not partisan and that only pick om Democrats....it's so comical but predictable..
The whole point of my original post was to state that previous administrations did these exact same things happening now and faced lawsuits be ause of excessive force. Those are just facts. What I proposed were several questions about the difference as to why which were not discussed because you are so quick to try and label me as im not this or that and it's a bad look for me...
Like seriously, stop being so combative if you chose to have real discussions. And my original.post wasn't intended for you specifically but what is quite clear today is you are in no position to discuss the topic with the way you came at me. It's as if you were just looking to create an argument.
Good luck with the rest of your day
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Where am I apologizing for Trump?
Where did I say to ignore the inhumane treatment?
Sometimes talking with you comes off as very combative because you are quick to find blame or fault in a poster or what was said instead of focusing on what was actually said. This creates contention in the discussion from the start and why it is very difficult to have reasonable conversations sometimes. Like right now, you were so quick to act like I said things that were not actually stated and for what reason? To build some vase that I am not partisan and that only pick om Democrats....it's so comical but predictable..
The whole point of my original post was to state that previous administrations did these exact same things happening now and faced lawsuits be ause of excessive force. Those are just facts. What I proposed were several questions about the difference as to why which were not discussed because you are so quick to try and label me as im not this or that and it's a bad look for me...
Like seriously, stop being so combative if you chose to have real discussions. And my original.post wasn't intended for you specifically but what is quite clear today is you are in no position to discuss the topic with the way you came at me. It's as if you were just looking to create an argument.
down with trump's 4th REICH!
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