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    Posted: Apr. 13, 2022 - 2:12 AM ET #26

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    COVID vaccine no longer effective when analyzing Minnesota's latest data. 

    Minnesota health department still recommends vaccination for all people 5 years and older.  This includes people with underlying medical conditions and those who have had covid.  Vaccines continue to work well in reducing risk of severe illness.  But even highly effective vaccines often become less effective over time.  Fortunately, booster doses have been proven to work in increasing immune response for more and longer lasting protection.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    COVID vaccine no longer effective when analyzing Minnesota's latest data. 

    Minnesota health department still recommends vaccination for all people 5 years and older.  This includes people with underlying medical conditions and those who have had covid.  Vaccines continue to work well in reducing risk of severe illness.  But even highly effective vaccines often become less effective over time.  Fortunately, booster doses have been proven to work in increasing immune response for more and longer lasting protection.

     
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    Posted: Apr. 13, 2022 - 5:17 AM ET #27

    Quote Originally Posted by mctrap:

    Dog Bit Whistle is the type of Child that wears his muzzle while driving alone and thinks of the government as his parents.  The Federal Government of Corruption needs to end the Covid Theater by ending the mandates next week.

    And the rumor is that the puppet masters will try to enforce a global lock-down (Shanghai style) early autumn...just in time to bugger the American November elections. This might be the spark that sets off the American Civil War part deux~~~an_bomb 

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    Quote Originally Posted by mctrap:

    Dog Bit Whistle is the type of Child that wears his muzzle while driving alone and thinks of the government as his parents.  The Federal Government of Corruption needs to end the Covid Theater by ending the mandates next week.

    And the rumor is that the puppet masters will try to enforce a global lock-down (Shanghai style) early autumn...just in time to bugger the American November elections. This might be the spark that sets off the American Civil War part deux~~~an_bomb 

     
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    Posted: Apr. 13, 2022 - 8:55 AM ET #28

    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:

    Quote Originally Posted by baish2012: Philadelphia becomes first major US city to reinstate its indoor mask mandate as cases rise To the science, vaccinations and masks provide protections against Covid-19. To the opposite, antivaxx and anti masks from ideology provides silliness and stupidity.
    To the science, natural immunity provides protections against viruses. It has for millions of years and will for as long as this earth is spinning. To the opposite, vaccination is pushed by state-controlled media to prey on the stupid people to make a profit.

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:

    Quote Originally Posted by baish2012: Philadelphia becomes first major US city to reinstate its indoor mask mandate as cases rise To the science, vaccinations and masks provide protections against Covid-19. To the opposite, antivaxx and anti masks from ideology provides silliness and stupidity.
    To the science, natural immunity provides protections against viruses. It has for millions of years and will for as long as this earth is spinning. To the opposite, vaccination is pushed by state-controlled media to prey on the stupid people to make a profit.

     

     
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    Posted: Apr. 13, 2022 - 9:31 AM ET #29

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN: COVID vaccine no longer effective when analyzing Minnesota's latest data.  Minnesota health department still recommends vaccination for all people 5 years and older.  This includes people with underlying medical conditions and those who have had covid.  Vaccines continue to work well in reducing risk of severe illness.  But even highly effective vaccines often become less effective over time.  Fortunately, booster doses have been proven to work in increasing immune response for more and longer lasting protection.

    December/January data clearly shows about 1 month of protection. So if that's longer lasting............

    Oct/Nov big booster campaign.

    Sept/Oct deaths fully vaxed 564, unvaxed 775---------42.1% vs 57.9%

    Nov/Dec deaths fully vaxed 595, unvaxed 1161-------33.9% vs 66.1%

    Jan/Feb deaths fully vaxed 515, unvaxed 440---------53.9% vs 46.1%

    February to March 13th fully vaxed 65, unvaxed 39------62.5% vs 37.5%

    For me, I would never give this vaccine to my child unless they were immune compromised. What sense does it make when Omicron has PROVEN to infect the vaccinated as easily as the unvaccinated? 

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN: COVID vaccine no longer effective when analyzing Minnesota's latest data.  Minnesota health department still recommends vaccination for all people 5 years and older.  This includes people with underlying medical conditions and those who have had covid.  Vaccines continue to work well in reducing risk of severe illness.  But even highly effective vaccines often become less effective over time.  Fortunately, booster doses have been proven to work in increasing immune response for more and longer lasting protection.

    December/January data clearly shows about 1 month of protection. So if that's longer lasting............

    Oct/Nov big booster campaign.

    Sept/Oct deaths fully vaxed 564, unvaxed 775---------42.1% vs 57.9%

    Nov/Dec deaths fully vaxed 595, unvaxed 1161-------33.9% vs 66.1%

    Jan/Feb deaths fully vaxed 515, unvaxed 440---------53.9% vs 46.1%

    February to March 13th fully vaxed 65, unvaxed 39------62.5% vs 37.5%

    For me, I would never give this vaccine to my child unless they were immune compromised. What sense does it make when Omicron has PROVEN to infect the vaccinated as easily as the unvaccinated? 

     
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    Posted: Apr. 13, 2022 - 9:55 AM ET #30

    Quote Originally Posted by nostradumbass:

    natural immunity provides protections against viruses. It has for millions of years and will for as long as this earth is spinning. To the opposite, vaccination is pushed by state-controlled media to prey on the stupid people to make a profit.

    To acquire natural immunity is risky and requires surviving death or severe illness.  Developing population immunity is unreliable and takes years because immune response to infection varies widely among individuals.  Many people fail to develop enough immunity especially from mild infection.  In contrast, vaccines are safer, consistent, predictable, updated for new variants and can protect a large population in less time.  Doctors still recommend vaccination even for people who recover from infection or monoclonal anti-bodies treatment. 

    Without vaccination, there would be far more deaths and hospitalizations.  Commonwealth fund estimates US vaccination has prevented over 1 million covid deaths and 10 million hospitalizations in 2021.  Since $20,000 is average cost per covid patient, hospitalization is far more costly than $20 vaccine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nostradumbass:

    natural immunity provides protections against viruses. It has for millions of years and will for as long as this earth is spinning. To the opposite, vaccination is pushed by state-controlled media to prey on the stupid people to make a profit.

    To acquire natural immunity is risky and requires surviving death or severe illness.  Developing population immunity is unreliable and takes years because immune response to infection varies widely among individuals.  Many people fail to develop enough immunity especially from mild infection.  In contrast, vaccines are safer, consistent, predictable, updated for new variants and can protect a large population in less time.  Doctors still recommend vaccination even for people who recover from infection or monoclonal anti-bodies treatment. 

    Without vaccination, there would be far more deaths and hospitalizations.  Commonwealth fund estimates US vaccination has prevented over 1 million covid deaths and 10 million hospitalizations in 2021.  Since $20,000 is average cost per covid patient, hospitalization is far more costly than $20 vaccine.

     
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    Posted: Apr. 13, 2022 - 1:13 PM ET #31

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by nostradumbass: natural immunity provides protections against viruses. It has for millions of years and will for as long as this earth is spinning. To the opposite, vaccination is pushed by state-controlled media to prey on the stupid people to make a profit. To acquire natural immunity is risky and requires surviving death or severe illness.  Developing population immunity is unreliable and takes years because immune response to infection varies widely among individuals.  Many people fail to develop enough immunity especially from mild infection.  In contrast, vaccines are safer, consistent, predictable, updated for new variants and can protect a large population in less time.  Doctors still recommend vaccination even for people who recover from infection or monoclonal anti-bodies treatment.  Without vaccination, there would be far more deaths and hospitalizations.  Commonwealth fund estimates US vaccination has prevented over 1 million covid deaths and 10 million hospitalizations in 2021.  Since $20,000 is average cost per covid patient, hospitalization is far more costly than $20 vaccine.

     

    No sense in arguing with people like you. You would parrot what Dr Fauci says but we all know that dude is in it for the money and would pass along any misinformation he is told to. You should be cheering for guys that challenge these motherf’ers, not hushing them. Instead you’ve fallen into their trap and are now too brainwashed to realize a simple fact; Money is the root of all evil. 

    However we still have a million years of evidence to prove that this virus will be solved by the most experienced and trustworthy doctor, Mother Nature. No need for some man-made profiteering jab....But if you insist that your sources are so smart then please tell me what the longterm affects of this jab are? You can’t and nobody on this planet can. So, I am taking the side of Mother Nature and millions of years of proof, not what some paid schmuck that is a puppet for the establishment tells me.

    Big Pharma and state-media got ur brain in “lockdown”. If you and guys like you don’t wake up we are all doomed. Get on the right side of history and stop these evil motherf'ers before they destroy all of our freedoms.

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by nostradumbass: natural immunity provides protections against viruses. It has for millions of years and will for as long as this earth is spinning. To the opposite, vaccination is pushed by state-controlled media to prey on the stupid people to make a profit. To acquire natural immunity is risky and requires surviving death or severe illness.  Developing population immunity is unreliable and takes years because immune response to infection varies widely among individuals.  Many people fail to develop enough immunity especially from mild infection.  In contrast, vaccines are safer, consistent, predictable, updated for new variants and can protect a large population in less time.  Doctors still recommend vaccination even for people who recover from infection or monoclonal anti-bodies treatment.  Without vaccination, there would be far more deaths and hospitalizations.  Commonwealth fund estimates US vaccination has prevented over 1 million covid deaths and 10 million hospitalizations in 2021.  Since $20,000 is average cost per covid patient, hospitalization is far more costly than $20 vaccine.

     

    No sense in arguing with people like you. You would parrot what Dr Fauci says but we all know that dude is in it for the money and would pass along any misinformation he is told to. You should be cheering for guys that challenge these motherf’ers, not hushing them. Instead you’ve fallen into their trap and are now too brainwashed to realize a simple fact; Money is the root of all evil. 

    However we still have a million years of evidence to prove that this virus will be solved by the most experienced and trustworthy doctor, Mother Nature. No need for some man-made profiteering jab....But if you insist that your sources are so smart then please tell me what the longterm affects of this jab are? You can’t and nobody on this planet can. So, I am taking the side of Mother Nature and millions of years of proof, not what some paid schmuck that is a puppet for the establishment tells me.

    Big Pharma and state-media got ur brain in “lockdown”. If you and guys like you don’t wake up we are all doomed. Get on the right side of history and stop these evil motherf'ers before they destroy all of our freedoms.

     

     
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    Posted: Apr. 13, 2022 - 1:19 PM ET #32

    BTW the easiest cure for all of us is to turn off state-controlled media. Or if you can't, then at least start following the money trail. It always leads back to evil. That's is why we can't even drink water from our faucet...think about that.

    Big business is controlling our planet and it all boils down to money. So stop trusting them man, they don't give a f*ck about you!

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    BTW the easiest cure for all of us is to turn off state-controlled media. Or if you can't, then at least start following the money trail. It always leads back to evil. That's is why we can't even drink water from our faucet...think about that.

    Big business is controlling our planet and it all boils down to money. So stop trusting them man, they don't give a f*ck about you!

     
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    Posted: Apr. 13, 2022 - 3:09 PM ET #33

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by nostradumbass: natural immunity provides protections against viruses. It has for millions of years and will for as long as this earth is spinning. To the opposite, vaccination is pushed by state-controlled media to prey on the stupid people to make a profit. To acquire natural immunity is risky and requires surviving death.

    So, I guess we all just need to be reincarnated in order to acquire natural immunity? Please "fact check" this brilliant assertion of yours. You know, so we can "Trust The Science."    an_roll_laugh

    Relax. I'm unvaxxed!
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by nostradumbass: natural immunity provides protections against viruses. It has for millions of years and will for as long as this earth is spinning. To the opposite, vaccination is pushed by state-controlled media to prey on the stupid people to make a profit. To acquire natural immunity is risky and requires surviving death.

    So, I guess we all just need to be reincarnated in order to acquire natural immunity? Please "fact check" this brilliant assertion of yours. You know, so we can "Trust The Science."    an_roll_laugh

     
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    Posted: Apr. 13, 2022 - 3:32 PM ET #34

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by nostradumbass: natural immunity provides protections against viruses. It has for millions of years and will for as long as this earth is spinning. To the opposite, vaccination is pushed by state-controlled media to prey on the stupid people to make a profit. To acquire natural immunity is risky and requires surviving death or severe illness.  Developing population immunity is unreliable and takes years because immune response to infection varies widely among individuals.  Many people fail to develop enough immunity especially from mild infection.  In contrast, vaccines are safer, consistent, predictable, updated for new variants and can protect a large population in less time.  Doctors still recommend vaccination even for people who recover from infection or monoclonal anti-bodies treatment.  Without vaccination, there would be far more deaths and hospitalizations.  Commonwealth fund estimates US vaccination has prevented over 1 million covid deaths and 10 million hospitalizations in 2021.  Since $20,000 is average cost per covid patient, hospitalization is far more costly than $20 vaccine.

    WHERE??? WHEN????

    THE NEW UPDATED VACCINES ARE GOING THROUGH "SLOWBOAT TO CHINA" TRIALS. BY THE TIME THEY ARE APPROVED A DIFFERENT VARIANT WILL DOMINATE. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by nostradumbass: natural immunity provides protections against viruses. It has for millions of years and will for as long as this earth is spinning. To the opposite, vaccination is pushed by state-controlled media to prey on the stupid people to make a profit. To acquire natural immunity is risky and requires surviving death or severe illness.  Developing population immunity is unreliable and takes years because immune response to infection varies widely among individuals.  Many people fail to develop enough immunity especially from mild infection.  In contrast, vaccines are safer, consistent, predictable, updated for new variants and can protect a large population in less time.  Doctors still recommend vaccination even for people who recover from infection or monoclonal anti-bodies treatment.  Without vaccination, there would be far more deaths and hospitalizations.  Commonwealth fund estimates US vaccination has prevented over 1 million covid deaths and 10 million hospitalizations in 2021.  Since $20,000 is average cost per covid patient, hospitalization is far more costly than $20 vaccine.

    WHERE??? WHEN????

    THE NEW UPDATED VACCINES ARE GOING THROUGH "SLOWBOAT TO CHINA" TRIALS. BY THE TIME THEY ARE APPROVED A DIFFERENT VARIANT WILL DOMINATE. 

     
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    Posted: Apr. 13, 2022 - 4:16 PM ET #35

    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    Maine got an A for covid response. Governor Janet Mills kept Maine  open for business and our citizens safe.

    So how has Maine been doing since Omicron hit?

    Covid deaths from December 1st to April 12th;

    Maine----1 in every 1427 residents have died from covid.

    New Hampshire --1 in every 1945

    Vermont --1 in every 2971

    Massachusetts-- 1 in every 1795

    New York-- 1 in every 1861

    Texas-- 1 in every 2097

    Florida-- 1 in every 1891

    Populations divided by deaths from Dec1 taken from World- o- meters

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    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    Maine got an A for covid response. Governor Janet Mills kept Maine  open for business and our citizens safe.

    So how has Maine been doing since Omicron hit?

    Covid deaths from December 1st to April 12th;

    Maine----1 in every 1427 residents have died from covid.

    New Hampshire --1 in every 1945

    Vermont --1 in every 2971

    Massachusetts-- 1 in every 1795

    New York-- 1 in every 1861

    Texas-- 1 in every 2097

    Florida-- 1 in every 1891

    Populations divided by deaths from Dec1 taken from World- o- meters

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Vaccines continue to work well in reducing risk of severe illness.  But even highly effective vaccines often become less effective over time.  Fortunately, booster doses have been proven to work in increasing immune response for more and longer lasting protection.

    those r the facts

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Vaccines continue to work well in reducing risk of severe illness.  But even highly effective vaccines often become less effective over time.  Fortunately, booster doses have been proven to work in increasing immune response for more and longer lasting protection.

    those r the facts

     

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    To acquire natural immunity is risky and requires surviving death or severe illness.  Developing population immunity is unreliable and takes years because immune response to infection varies widely among individuals.  Many people fail to develop enough immunity especially from mild infection.  In contrast, vaccines are safer, consistent, predictable, updated for new variants and can protect a large population in less time. 

     

    yep           cemetaries r filled with people who thought they had natural immunity

    and even those that might develop it that doesn't protect them from emerging variants

    and even then there r still all those times they r sick with it first , spreading to others, missing work and paychecks , and now we r learning of long covid and yep even for those who think they developed natural immunity

    fcking stupid when facing a worldwide highly infectious disease that mutates frequently

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    To acquire natural immunity is risky and requires surviving death or severe illness.  Developing population immunity is unreliable and takes years because immune response to infection varies widely among individuals.  Many people fail to develop enough immunity especially from mild infection.  In contrast, vaccines are safer, consistent, predictable, updated for new variants and can protect a large population in less time. 

     

    yep           cemetaries r filled with people who thought they had natural immunity

    and even those that might develop it that doesn't protect them from emerging variants

    and even then there r still all those times they r sick with it first , spreading to others, missing work and paychecks , and now we r learning of long covid and yep even for those who think they developed natural immunity

    fcking stupid when facing a worldwide highly infectious disease that mutates frequently

     
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    Posted: Apr. 13, 2022 - 6:59 PM ET #38

    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Vaccines continue to work well in reducing risk of severe illness.  But even highly effective vaccines often become less effective over time.  Fortunately, booster doses have been proven to work in increasing immune response for more and longer lasting protection. those r the facts

    Unfortunately it's not a vaccine nor is it medicine. It's  experimental gene therapy. Those are the facts.

    Relax. I'm unvaxxed!
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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Vaccines continue to work well in reducing risk of severe illness.  But even highly effective vaccines often become less effective over time.  Fortunately, booster doses have been proven to work in increasing immune response for more and longer lasting protection. those r the facts

    Unfortunately it's not a vaccine nor is it medicine. It's  experimental gene therapy. Those are the facts.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: To acquire natural immunity is risky and requires surviving death or severe illness.  Developing population immunity is unreliable and takes years because immune response to infection varies widely among individuals.  Many people fail to develop enough immunity especially from mild infection.  In contrast, vaccines are safer, consistent, predictable, updated for new variants and can protect a large population in less time.    yep           cemetaries r filled with people who thought they had natural immunity and even those that might develop it that doesn't protect them from emerging variants and even then there r still all those times they r sick with it first , spreading to others, missing work and paychecks , and now we r learning of long covid and yep even for those who think they developed natural immunity fcking stupid when facing a worldwide highly infectious disease that mutates frequently

    Is English your main language? Or Chinese?

    Relax. I'm unvaxxed!
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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: To acquire natural immunity is risky and requires surviving death or severe illness.  Developing population immunity is unreliable and takes years because immune response to infection varies widely among individuals.  Many people fail to develop enough immunity especially from mild infection.  In contrast, vaccines are safer, consistent, predictable, updated for new variants and can protect a large population in less time.    yep           cemetaries r filled with people who thought they had natural immunity and even those that might develop it that doesn't protect them from emerging variants and even then there r still all those times they r sick with it first , spreading to others, missing work and paychecks , and now we r learning of long covid and yep even for those who think they developed natural immunity fcking stupid when facing a worldwide highly infectious disease that mutates frequently

    Is English your main language? Or Chinese?

     
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    2200 have died since the onset of covid 19.

    That's it. 250,000 caught covid.

    Less than one percent death count.

     

    So how your state doing ....

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    2200 have died since the onset of covid 19.

    That's it. 250,000 caught covid.

    Less than one percent death count.

     

    So how your state doing ....

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by mctrap:

    it's not a vaccine nor is it medicine. It's  experimental gene therapy.

    Covid vaccines aren't gene therapy because they do not alter DNA according to many fact checkers.  Politifact, Statesman, Poynter, Forbes, Reuters and WebMD.  For vaccines to alter genes, genetic material must enter the nucleus of cells where DNA is kept according to US center for disease control.  But vaccines lack the enzymes necessary to penetrate cell membranes.  Unlike gene therapy, mRNA vaccines are designed to degrade rapidly and stay in the body no longer than a few days.  Besides, Food drug administration classifies them as vaccines and not gene therapy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mctrap:

    it's not a vaccine nor is it medicine. It's  experimental gene therapy.

    Covid vaccines aren't gene therapy because they do not alter DNA according to many fact checkers.  Politifact, Statesman, Poynter, Forbes, Reuters and WebMD.  For vaccines to alter genes, genetic material must enter the nucleus of cells where DNA is kept according to US center for disease control.  But vaccines lack the enzymes necessary to penetrate cell membranes.  Unlike gene therapy, mRNA vaccines are designed to degrade rapidly and stay in the body no longer than a few days.  Besides, Food drug administration classifies them as vaccines and not gene therapy.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by mctrap: it's not a vaccine nor is it medicine. It's  experimental gene therapy. Covid vaccines aren't gene therapy because they do not alter DNA according to many fact checkers.  Politifact, Statesman, Poynter, Forbes, Reuters and WebMD.  For vaccines to alter genes, genetic material must enter the nucleus of cells where DNA is kept according to US center for disease control.  But vaccines lack the enzymes necessary to penetrate cell membranes.  Unlike gene therapy, mRNA vaccines are designed to degrade rapidly and stay in the body no longer than a few days.  Besides, Food drug administration classifies them as vaccines and not gene therapy.

     

    "fact checkers"new_laugh_crynew_laugh_crynew_laugh_crynew_poop

     

    ive said it before and i'll say it again,there is almost zero chance this "guy" is an actual human being...just disgusting,stinking trash filled comments every time without fail.

    all your "fact checkers" are funded by/linked to the same fuggin guys that are selling you the poison,dummy.whether the product was good,bad or neutral you would only ever hear one thing being reported and thats the thing they are being paid to report.its been admitted that their "fact checks" are actually opinion based in most instances.when will the penny drop?good grief,this guy is utter garbage....my skin crawls just in anticipation of looking at the vile nonsense that drips off the screen anytime the urge strikes him to offer yet another "valuable contribution"

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by mctrap: it's not a vaccine nor is it medicine. It's  experimental gene therapy. Covid vaccines aren't gene therapy because they do not alter DNA according to many fact checkers.  Politifact, Statesman, Poynter, Forbes, Reuters and WebMD.  For vaccines to alter genes, genetic material must enter the nucleus of cells where DNA is kept according to US center for disease control.  But vaccines lack the enzymes necessary to penetrate cell membranes.  Unlike gene therapy, mRNA vaccines are designed to degrade rapidly and stay in the body no longer than a few days.  Besides, Food drug administration classifies them as vaccines and not gene therapy.

     

    "fact checkers"new_laugh_crynew_laugh_crynew_laugh_crynew_poop

     

    ive said it before and i'll say it again,there is almost zero chance this "guy" is an actual human being...just disgusting,stinking trash filled comments every time without fail.

    all your "fact checkers" are funded by/linked to the same fuggin guys that are selling you the poison,dummy.whether the product was good,bad or neutral you would only ever hear one thing being reported and thats the thing they are being paid to report.its been admitted that their "fact checks" are actually opinion based in most instances.when will the penny drop?good grief,this guy is utter garbage....my skin crawls just in anticipation of looking at the vile nonsense that drips off the screen anytime the urge strikes him to offer yet another "valuable contribution"

     
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    Posted: Apr. 14, 2022 - 3:58 AM ET #43

    Quote Originally Posted by mctrap:

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Quote Originally Posted by nostradumbass: natural immunity provides protections against viruses. It has for millions of years and will for as long as this earth is spinning. To the opposite, vaccination is pushed by state-controlled media to prey on the stupid people to make a profit. To acquire natural immunity is risky and requires surviving death. So, I guess we all just need to be reincarnated in order to acquire natural immunity? Please "fact check" this brilliant assertion of yours. You know, so we can "Trust The Science."

     

    hehehe...and you know why that deliberate oversight was likely left in there,dontcha??because if he wrote the actual statement,which would be "to acquire natural immunity is risky and requires surviving the 0.001% POSSIBILITY OF DEATH (for a healthy young person)" then it would be plain and obvious how absurd and ridiculous his assertion is.

     

    fuccing holy hell,we are over 2 years down the road and there still exists douche-canoes like this spreading fearporn,acting like folk are dropping dead left and right in the street...imagine how impossibly dumb you would have to be to fall for it at this point.just who on earth does this bot think its convincing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mctrap:

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Quote Originally Posted by nostradumbass: natural immunity provides protections against viruses. It has for millions of years and will for as long as this earth is spinning. To the opposite, vaccination is pushed by state-controlled media to prey on the stupid people to make a profit. To acquire natural immunity is risky and requires surviving death. So, I guess we all just need to be reincarnated in order to acquire natural immunity? Please "fact check" this brilliant assertion of yours. You know, so we can "Trust The Science."

     

    hehehe...and you know why that deliberate oversight was likely left in there,dontcha??because if he wrote the actual statement,which would be "to acquire natural immunity is risky and requires surviving the 0.001% POSSIBILITY OF DEATH (for a healthy young person)" then it would be plain and obvious how absurd and ridiculous his assertion is.

     

    fuccing holy hell,we are over 2 years down the road and there still exists douche-canoes like this spreading fearporn,acting like folk are dropping dead left and right in the street...imagine how impossibly dumb you would have to be to fall for it at this point.just who on earth does this bot think its convincing?

     
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    Posted: Apr. 14, 2022 - 5:45 AM ET #44

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN: COVID vaccine no longer effective when analyzing Minnesota's latest data.  Minnesota health department still recommends vaccination for all people 5 years and older.  This includes people with underlying medical conditions and those who have had covid.  Vaccines continue to work well in reducing risk of severe illness.  But even highly effective vaccines often become less effective over time.  Fortunately, booster doses have been proven to work in increasing immune response for more and longer lasting protection.

     

    Thankfully this is the case, saving millions around the world

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN: COVID vaccine no longer effective when analyzing Minnesota's latest data.  Minnesota health department still recommends vaccination for all people 5 years and older.  This includes people with underlying medical conditions and those who have had covid.  Vaccines continue to work well in reducing risk of severe illness.  But even highly effective vaccines often become less effective over time.  Fortunately, booster doses have been proven to work in increasing immune response for more and longer lasting protection.

     

    Thankfully this is the case, saving millions around the world

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN: COVID vaccine no longer effective when analyzing Minnesota's latest data.  Minnesota health department still recommends vaccination for all people 5 years and older.  This includes people with underlying medical conditions and those who have had covid.  Vaccines continue to work well in reducing risk of severe illness.  But even highly effective vaccines often become less effective over time.  Fortunately, booster doses have been proven to work in increasing immune response for more and longer lasting protection.

     

    Thankfully this is the case, saving millions around the world

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN: COVID vaccine no longer effective when analyzing Minnesota's latest data.  Minnesota health department still recommends vaccination for all people 5 years and older.  This includes people with underlying medical conditions and those who have had covid.  Vaccines continue to work well in reducing risk of severe illness.  But even highly effective vaccines often become less effective over time.  Fortunately, booster doses have been proven to work in increasing immune response for more and longer lasting protection.

     

    Thankfully this is the case, saving millions around the world

     
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    Posted: Apr. 14, 2022 - 5:47 AM ET #46

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by nostradumbass: natural immunity provides protections against viruses. It has for millions of years and will for as long as this earth is spinning. To the opposite, vaccination is pushed by state-controlled media to prey on the stupid people to make a profit. To acquire natural immunity is risky and requires surviving death or severe illness.  Developing population immunity is unreliable and takes years because immune response to infection varies widely among individuals.  Many people fail to develop enough immunity especially from mild infection. 

     

    In contrast, vaccines are safer, consistent, predictable, updated for new variants and can protect a large population in less time.  Doctors still recommend vaccination even for people who recover from infection or monoclonal anti-bodies treatment.  Without vaccination, there would be far more deaths and hospitalizations. 

     

    Commonwealth fund estimates US vaccination has prevented over 1 million covid deaths and 10 million hospitalizations in 2021.  Since $20,000 is average cost per covid patient, hospitalization is far more costly than $20 vaccine.

     

     

    Very significant figures that prove the value.

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by nostradumbass: natural immunity provides protections against viruses. It has for millions of years and will for as long as this earth is spinning. To the opposite, vaccination is pushed by state-controlled media to prey on the stupid people to make a profit. To acquire natural immunity is risky and requires surviving death or severe illness.  Developing population immunity is unreliable and takes years because immune response to infection varies widely among individuals.  Many people fail to develop enough immunity especially from mild infection. 

     

    In contrast, vaccines are safer, consistent, predictable, updated for new variants and can protect a large population in less time.  Doctors still recommend vaccination even for people who recover from infection or monoclonal anti-bodies treatment.  Without vaccination, there would be far more deaths and hospitalizations. 

     

    Commonwealth fund estimates US vaccination has prevented over 1 million covid deaths and 10 million hospitalizations in 2021.  Since $20,000 is average cost per covid patient, hospitalization is far more costly than $20 vaccine.

     

     

    Very significant figures that prove the value.

     

     

     
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     Thanks 4 sharing 'doubleup4life'...another sock puppet for big pharma...

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     Thanks 4 sharing 'doubleup4life'...another sock puppet for big pharma...

     
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    Many are hoping that you have plans to get your 4th shot. You and yours can't be too safe now can we??? Get that sleeve rolled up and show us how it is done!!!

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    @KellyM_1964

    Many are hoping that you have plans to get your 4th shot. You and yours can't be too safe now can we??? Get that sleeve rolled up and show us how it is done!!!

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote : it's not a vaccine nor is it medicine. It's  experimental gene therapy.

    Covid vaccines aren't gene therapy because they do not alter DNA according to many fact checkers.  Politifact, Statesman, Poynter, Forbes, Reuters and WebMD.  For vaccines to alter genes, genetic material must enter the nucleus of cells where DNA is kept according to US center for disease control.  But vaccines lack the enzymes necessary to penetrate cell membranes.  Unlike gene therapy, mRNA vaccines are designed to degrade rapidly and stay in the body no longer than a few days.  Besides, Food drug administration classifies them as vaccines and not gene therapy.

    Solid points. peace_5

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote : it's not a vaccine nor is it medicine. It's  experimental gene therapy.

    Covid vaccines aren't gene therapy because they do not alter DNA according to many fact checkers.  Politifact, Statesman, Poynter, Forbes, Reuters and WebMD.  For vaccines to alter genes, genetic material must enter the nucleus of cells where DNA is kept according to US center for disease control.  But vaccines lack the enzymes necessary to penetrate cell membranes.  Unlike gene therapy, mRNA vaccines are designed to degrade rapidly and stay in the body no longer than a few days.  Besides, Food drug administration classifies them as vaccines and not gene therapy.

    Solid points. peace_5

     
     
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    Posted: Apr. 14, 2022 - 11:15 AM ET #50

    What do you care if other people choose to wear a mask? Are you a fan of idiot (but funny as heck, at least in the past) Nick DiPaolo? He loves to play an audio clip that says "Shut up and mind your f%#^ing business". He also constantly rants about people wearing masks and how he'd love to tackle them and rip the mask off. He should do what the audio clip he loves so much says - Shut up and mind his own f^&*ing business. It's NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS if someone else is wearing a mask. And any private entity can choose to not allow you in without a mask, just as they can choose to not allow you in without a shirt or shoes or proper attire. And I'm not saying that as some stereotype of an effete liberal, afraid of everything. I wear a mask out of respect for the workers. They are wearing masks, so it seems disrespectful for me to not wear a mask. They are there all day with a mask on, I can do it for the 30 minutes I'm in the store. Is it really that hard to give a crap about anybody besides yourself? Sheesh.

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    What do you care if other people choose to wear a mask? Are you a fan of idiot (but funny as heck, at least in the past) Nick DiPaolo? He loves to play an audio clip that says "Shut up and mind your f%#^ing business". He also constantly rants about people wearing masks and how he'd love to tackle them and rip the mask off. He should do what the audio clip he loves so much says - Shut up and mind his own f^&*ing business. It's NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS if someone else is wearing a mask. And any private entity can choose to not allow you in without a mask, just as they can choose to not allow you in without a shirt or shoes or proper attire. And I'm not saying that as some stereotype of an effete liberal, afraid of everything. I wear a mask out of respect for the workers. They are wearing masks, so it seems disrespectful for me to not wear a mask. They are there all day with a mask on, I can do it for the 30 minutes I'm in the store. Is it really that hard to give a crap about anybody besides yourself? Sheesh.

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