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    How many takers will there be? ....the over/under is 5

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    Posted: Jun. 13, 2020 - 8:21 PM ET #1

    Ghana, considered a gateway of the slave trade to the United States that began more than 400 years ago, is urging “unwanted” Americans of African heritage to resettle within its borders in the wake of the police killing of Minnesota resident George Floyd.

    Ghana’s Minister of Tourism, Arts, and Culture Barbara Oteng-Gyasi invited African Americans to “re-settle in Ghana if they feel unwanted” in the United States ..

    Oteng-Gyasi reportedly declared:

    We continue to open our arms and invite all our brothers and sisters home. Ghana is your home. Africa is your home. We have our arms wide open ready to welcome you home. Please take advantage, come home build a life in Ghana, you do not have to stay where you are not wanted forever, you have a choice and Africa is waiting for you.

    Ghana called on the African diaspora across the world to “come home”

    How many takers will there be ?  Over or Under 5 ..

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    Ghana, considered a gateway of the slave trade to the United States that began more than 400 years ago, is urging “unwanted” Americans of African heritage to resettle within its borders in the wake of the police killing of Minnesota resident George Floyd.

    Ghana’s Minister of Tourism, Arts, and Culture Barbara Oteng-Gyasi invited African Americans to “re-settle in Ghana if they feel unwanted” in the United States ..

    Oteng-Gyasi reportedly declared:

    We continue to open our arms and invite all our brothers and sisters home. Ghana is your home. Africa is your home. We have our arms wide open ready to welcome you home. Please take advantage, come home build a life in Ghana, you do not have to stay where you are not wanted forever, you have a choice and Africa is waiting for you.

    Ghana called on the African diaspora across the world to “come home”

    How many takers will there be ?  Over or Under 5 ..

     
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    Posted: Jun. 13, 2020 - 8:59 PM ET #2

    This was tried in the late 19th century with The Ivory Coast. There were not a great number of takers. When people are 3, 4, 5 generations out of "the old country" they no longer feel an urge to go there. It is not "home" to them and never was. 

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    This was tried in the late 19th century with The Ivory Coast. There were not a great number of takers. When people are 3, 4, 5 generations out of "the old country" they no longer feel an urge to go there. It is not "home" to them and never was. 

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    Posted: Jun. 13, 2020 - 9:01 PM ET #3

    My family has property in Ghana. I think i'm technically some kind of Chief or something. Been once. Don't plan on going back. Funny part is our slave ancestry isn't even through Ghana. I'm sure we have some roots there but through geneology most of our roots are in the Ivory Coast. Money talks though. For the right price, Slim, you can probably be a Chief.

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    My family has property in Ghana. I think i'm technically some kind of Chief or something. Been once. Don't plan on going back. Funny part is our slave ancestry isn't even through Ghana. I'm sure we have some roots there but through geneology most of our roots are in the Ivory Coast. Money talks though. For the right price, Slim, you can probably be a Chief.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 13, 2020 - 9:03 PM ET #4

    You don't get a lot of love there as a black American. You get respect and power if you bring that American green but don't think you're gonna go there and it's all, "Brother! Sister! Welcome home!" This is our home. People better recognize.

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    You don't get a lot of love there as a black American. You get respect and power if you bring that American green but don't think you're gonna go there and it's all, "Brother! Sister! Welcome home!" This is our home. People better recognize.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 13, 2020 - 9:31 PM ET #5

    The Ghanese want American blacks to come back,, so they can sell them to Democrats again..

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    The Ghanese want American blacks to come back,, so they can sell them to Democrats again..

     
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    Posted: Jun. 13, 2020 - 9:31 PM ET #6

    The Ghanese want American blacks to come back so they can sell them to Democrats again..

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    The Ghanese want American blacks to come back so they can sell them to Democrats again..

     
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    Posted: Jun. 14, 2020 - 12:58 AM ET #7

    A  brotha friend of mine who's father was a Doctor and owned a plantation in Liberia.  I think he was into bananas..anyway after my friend's dad died ,,,he showed me pics of the plantation, that he had inherited..quite large..he said it was worth millions..

    Just as he was getting things set-up here,,,, so he could go over as the new owner.and check things out ...Indigenous people in the area took over the plantation and were in control of everything..and his millions he thought he was willed to him vanished..

    If you are not direct people,of the land when you go there ...you will never be looked at as anything different....

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    A  brotha friend of mine who's father was a Doctor and owned a plantation in Liberia.  I think he was into bananas..anyway after my friend's dad died ,,,he showed me pics of the plantation, that he had inherited..quite large..he said it was worth millions..

    Just as he was getting things set-up here,,,, so he could go over as the new owner.and check things out ...Indigenous people in the area took over the plantation and were in control of everything..and his millions he thought he was willed to him vanished..

    If you are not direct people,of the land when you go there ...you will never be looked at as anything different....

     
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    Posted: Jun. 14, 2020 - 8:23 AM ET #8

    Irish, Jewish, Italian, Polish. Millions of immigrants to this country, although white, have been regarded as unwelcome "foreigners". If an American black thinks it will be any different trying to inherit wealth in a poor black country he is smoking the wrong sh/t. jm2cents 

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    Irish, Jewish, Italian, Polish. Millions of immigrants to this country, although white, have been regarded as unwelcome "foreigners". If an American black thinks it will be any different trying to inherit wealth in a poor black country he is smoking the wrong sh/t. jm2cents 

     
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    Posted: Jun. 14, 2020 - 8:41 AM ET #9

    I believe this is pandering but it would be interesting if a group of us citizens did expatriate themselves to that country. 

    A study could actually be formed with two sets of humans one stayed here and a generation passes one their with a generation passing and to assess who has a better quality of life.

    Liberal proffessors from Penn State and Harvard would drool forghe opportunity to assess this model.

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    I believe this is pandering but it would be interesting if a group of us citizens did expatriate themselves to that country. 

    A study could actually be formed with two sets of humans one stayed here and a generation passes one their with a generation passing and to assess who has a better quality of life.

    Liberal proffessors from Penn State and Harvard would drool forghe opportunity to assess this model.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 14, 2020 - 8:43 AM ET #10

    However concluding thaat this is a bad or good idea is premature without actual data it is speculation and not based with any substantial case study it is fugal to draw any summery outside conjecture and theory.would they take those who have been convicted of a crime. Because alot more voluteersv could be gathered if this deportation vs prison was given to those of African DNA lineage.

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    However concluding thaat this is a bad or good idea is premature without actual data it is speculation and not based with any substantial case study it is fugal to draw any summery outside conjecture and theory.would they take those who have been convicted of a crime. Because alot more voluteersv could be gathered if this deportation vs prison was given to those of African DNA lineage.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 14, 2020 - 9:48 AM ET #11

    Quote Originally Posted by KeyElement:

    Irish, Jewish, Italian, Polish. Millions of immigrants to this country, although white, have been regarded as unwelcome "foreigners". If an American black thinks it will be any different trying to inherit wealth in a poor black country he is smoking the wrong sh/t. jm2cents

    Like I said, they'd be very welcoming if you bring American money but they do not view African-Americans as "brothers". They'll smile in your face but...

    It's still a trip that African-Americans who are able should make, as a visit, but we need to realize that the fruits of this country are fertilized with our blood, sweat, and tears. We need to stop acting like strangers in a strange land and accept that this is our home as much as anybody elses, save for the Native Americans. Or original peoples... whatever they are calling themselves now. Indians. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by KeyElement:

    Irish, Jewish, Italian, Polish. Millions of immigrants to this country, although white, have been regarded as unwelcome "foreigners". If an American black thinks it will be any different trying to inherit wealth in a poor black country he is smoking the wrong sh/t. jm2cents

    Like I said, they'd be very welcoming if you bring American money but they do not view African-Americans as "brothers". They'll smile in your face but...

    It's still a trip that African-Americans who are able should make, as a visit, but we need to realize that the fruits of this country are fertilized with our blood, sweat, and tears. We need to stop acting like strangers in a strange land and accept that this is our home as much as anybody elses, save for the Native Americans. Or original peoples... whatever they are calling themselves now. Indians. 

     
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    Posted: Jun. 14, 2020 - 10:47 AM ET #12

    Ghana sends students to America to be transferred need anything n skilled positions . Umfk. (University of Maine at Fortt Kent  trains nurses and environmental science to return to Ghana and practice their aquired trade. If they can recruit more skilled americans with skilled level proffessors Ghana isn't poor mismanaged granted but they hold vast wealth in natural rescources. Fossil fuels minerals lumber rubber . Their need is argriculture Food medicine modern hospitals and reproductive controls that don't involve force sterilization on adolescents war or disease. 

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    Ghana sends students to America to be transferred need anything n skilled positions . Umfk. (University of Maine at Fortt Kent  trains nurses and environmental science to return to Ghana and practice their aquired trade. If they can recruit more skilled americans with skilled level proffessors Ghana isn't poor mismanaged granted but they hold vast wealth in natural rescources. Fossil fuels minerals lumber rubber . Their need is argriculture Food medicine modern hospitals and reproductive controls that don't involve force sterilization on adolescents war or disease. 

     
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    Posted: Jun. 14, 2020 - 10:50 AM ET #13

    Background:This entry usually highlights major historic events and current issues and may include a statement about one or two key future trends.[image from unapproved source]
    Formed from the merger of the British colony of the Gold Coast and the Togoland trust territory, Ghana in 1957 became the first Sub-Saharan country in colonial Africa to gain its independence. Ghana endured a series of coups before Lt. Jerry RAWLINGS took power in 1981 and banned political parties. After approving a new constitution and restoring multiparty politics in 1992, RAWLINGS won presidential elections in 1992 and 1996 but was constitutionally prevented from running for a third term in 2000. John KUFUOR of the opposition New Patriotic Party (NPP) succeeded him and was reelected in 2004. John Atta MILLS of the National Democratic Congress won the 2008 presidential election and took over as head of state. MILLS died in July 2012 and was constitutionally succeeded by his vice president, John Dramani MAHAMA, who subsequently won the December 2012 presidential election. In 2016, Nana Addo Dankwa AKUFO-ADDO of the NPP defeated MAHAMA, marking the third time that Ghana’s presidency has changed parties since the return to democracy.
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    Background:This entry usually highlights major historic events and current issues and may include a statement about one or two key future trends.[image from unapproved source]
    Formed from the merger of the British colony of the Gold Coast and the Togoland trust territory, Ghana in 1957 became the first Sub-Saharan country in colonial Africa to gain its independence. Ghana endured a series of coups before Lt. Jerry RAWLINGS took power in 1981 and banned political parties. After approving a new constitution and restoring multiparty politics in 1992, RAWLINGS won presidential elections in 1992 and 1996 but was constitutionally prevented from running for a third term in 2000. John KUFUOR of the opposition New Patriotic Party (NPP) succeeded him and was reelected in 2004. John Atta MILLS of the National Democratic Congress won the 2008 presidential election and took over as head of state. MILLS died in July 2012 and was constitutionally succeeded by his vice president, John Dramani MAHAMA, who subsequently won the December 2012 presidential election. In 2016, Nana Addo Dankwa AKUFO-ADDO of the NPP defeated MAHAMA, marking the third time that Ghana’s presidency has changed parties since the return to democracy.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 14, 2020 - 10:52 AM ET #14

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    Ghana has a market-based economy with relatively few policy barriers to trade and investment in comparison with other countries in the region, and Ghana is endowed with natural resources. Ghana's economy was strengthened by a quarter century of relatively sound management, a competitive business environment, and sustained reductions in poverty levels, but in recent years has suffered the consequences of loose fiscal policy, high budget and current account deficits, and a depreciating currency.

     

    Agriculture accounts for about 20% of GDP and employs more than half of the workforce, mainly small landholders. Gold, oil, and cocoa exports, and individual remittances, are major sources of foreign exchange. Expansion of Ghana’s nascent oil industry has boosted economic growth, but the fall in oil prices since 2015 reduced by half Ghana’s oil revenue. Production at Jubilee, Ghana's first commercial offshore oilfield, began in mid-December 2010. Production from two more fields, TEN and Sankofa, started in 2016 and 2017 respectively. The country’s first gas processing plant at Atuabo is also producing natural gas from the Jubilee field, providing power to several of Ghana’s thermal power plants.

     

    As of 2018, key economic concerns facing the government include the lack of affordable electricity, lack of a solid domestic revenue base, and the high debt burden. The AKUFO-ADDO administration has made some progress by committing to fiscal consolidation, but much work is still to be done. Ghana signed a $920 million extended credit facility with the IMF in April 2015 to help it address its growing economic crisis. The IMF fiscal targets require Ghana to reduce the deficit by cutting subsidies, decreasing the bloated public sector wage bill, strengthening revenue administration, boosting tax revenues, and improving the health of Ghana’s banking sector. Priorities for the new administration include rescheduling some of Ghana’s $31 billion debt, stimulating economic growth, reducing inflation, and stabilizing the currency. Prospects for new oil and gas production and follow through on tighter fiscal management are likely to help Ghana’s economy in 2018

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    Ghana has a market-based economy with relatively few policy barriers to trade and investment in comparison with other countries in the region, and Ghana is endowed with natural resources. Ghana's economy was strengthened by a quarter century of relatively sound management, a competitive business environment, and sustained reductions in poverty levels, but in recent years has suffered the consequences of loose fiscal policy, high budget and current account deficits, and a depreciating currency.

     

    Agriculture accounts for about 20% of GDP and employs more than half of the workforce, mainly small landholders. Gold, oil, and cocoa exports, and individual remittances, are major sources of foreign exchange. Expansion of Ghana’s nascent oil industry has boosted economic growth, but the fall in oil prices since 2015 reduced by half Ghana’s oil revenue. Production at Jubilee, Ghana's first commercial offshore oilfield, began in mid-December 2010. Production from two more fields, TEN and Sankofa, started in 2016 and 2017 respectively. The country’s first gas processing plant at Atuabo is also producing natural gas from the Jubilee field, providing power to several of Ghana’s thermal power plants.

     

    As of 2018, key economic concerns facing the government include the lack of affordable electricity, lack of a solid domestic revenue base, and the high debt burden. The AKUFO-ADDO administration has made some progress by committing to fiscal consolidation, but much work is still to be done. Ghana signed a $920 million extended credit facility with the IMF in April 2015 to help it address its growing economic crisis. The IMF fiscal targets require Ghana to reduce the deficit by cutting subsidies, decreasing the bloated public sector wage bill, strengthening revenue administration, boosting tax revenues, and improving the health of Ghana’s banking sector. Priorities for the new administration include rescheduling some of Ghana’s $31 billion debt, stimulating economic growth, reducing inflation, and stabilizing the currency. Prospects for new oil and gas production and follow through on tighter fiscal management are likely to help Ghana’s economy in 2018

     
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    Source of information https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/gh.html.

     

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    Source of information https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/gh.html.

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    I believe this is pandering but it would be interesting if a group of us citizens did expatriate themselves to that country.  A study could actually be formed with two sets of humans one stayed here and a generation passes one their with a generation passing and to assess who has a better quality of life. Liberal proffessors from Penn State and Harvard would drool forghe opportunity to assess this model.

    There is somewhat of a record of what happens when black US citizens expatriated themselves to an African country..

    In Slaves to Racism: An Unbroken Chain from America to Liberia,,by Benjamin Dennis and Anita Dennis. They argue that the Americo-Liberians replicated the only society most of them knew: the racist culture of the American South. Believing themselves different from and culturally and educationally superior to the indigenous peoples, the Americo-Liberians developed as an elite minority that held on to political power. They treated the natives the way American whites had treated them: as inferiors. The natives could not vote and could not speak unless spoken to. Just as American Blacks were prohibited from marrying or having sexual relationships with white women, the natives could not marry Americo-Liberian women. Even when some natives became educated, they were excluded from government positions, except for a token few. Indigenous tribesmen did not enjoy birthright citizenship in their own land until 1904. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    I believe this is pandering but it would be interesting if a group of us citizens did expatriate themselves to that country.  A study could actually be formed with two sets of humans one stayed here and a generation passes one their with a generation passing and to assess who has a better quality of life. Liberal proffessors from Penn State and Harvard would drool forghe opportunity to assess this model.

    There is somewhat of a record of what happens when black US citizens expatriated themselves to an African country..

    In Slaves to Racism: An Unbroken Chain from America to Liberia,,by Benjamin Dennis and Anita Dennis. They argue that the Americo-Liberians replicated the only society most of them knew: the racist culture of the American South. Believing themselves different from and culturally and educationally superior to the indigenous peoples, the Americo-Liberians developed as an elite minority that held on to political power. They treated the natives the way American whites had treated them: as inferiors. The natives could not vote and could not speak unless spoken to. Just as American Blacks were prohibited from marrying or having sexual relationships with white women, the natives could not marry Americo-Liberian women. Even when some natives became educated, they were excluded from government positions, except for a token few. Indigenous tribesmen did not enjoy birthright citizenship in their own land until 1904. 

     
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    Posted: Jun. 14, 2020 - 1:39 PM ET #17

    A century ago? Well the world has advanced sence Theodore Roosevelt held presidentcy. Same as anywhere if you show up broke uninvited and needy that ngs never work out. 

    Same as you show up with a chip and airs about you. To assimilate you need to adapt to the environment that is. Not with a delusional thought of what it should be. 

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    A century ago? Well the world has advanced sence Theodore Roosevelt held presidentcy. Same as anywhere if you show up broke uninvited and needy that ngs never work out. 

    Same as you show up with a chip and airs about you. To assimilate you need to adapt to the environment that is. Not with a delusional thought of what it should be. 

     
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    Immigration away from the United States has been since college nists occuppied Massachusetts Bay colony. After ww1 alot of expatriate themselves to paris. After ww2 to territories in Pacific islands during vietnam Canada and Mexico became home .

    Recently we had waves of immigration to the caliphate held by ISIS. People leaving this shit hole has been occuring so nice we sent Puritan to new england. And the Queen's Anne's 100 year war erupted to n this side of the pond. 

    are we even a first world country in terms of life expectancy , give child birth rates and education systems.  We lock up more citizens than the rest of the world per capitia and where black minority is about 25 percent of the population it occuppies 70 percent of prison space. 

    Our Justice policies have been condemd by the world. We face war crime convictions credit message against her manity genocide of Aboriginal people of which our government has taken no responsibility. 

    We have no leader of the Free world tag but to us citizens being fed by msm bur but reality we are a international disgrace. 

    Our president reflects the values of our government a born liar. 

     

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    Immigration away from the United States has been since college nists occuppied Massachusetts Bay colony. After ww1 alot of expatriate themselves to paris. After ww2 to territories in Pacific islands during vietnam Canada and Mexico became home .

    Recently we had waves of immigration to the caliphate held by ISIS. People leaving this shit hole has been occuring so nice we sent Puritan to new england. And the Queen's Anne's 100 year war erupted to n this side of the pond. 

    are we even a first world country in terms of life expectancy , give child birth rates and education systems.  We lock up more citizens than the rest of the world per capitia and where black minority is about 25 percent of the population it occuppies 70 percent of prison space. 

    Our Justice policies have been condemd by the world. We face war crime convictions credit message against her manity genocide of Aboriginal people of which our government has taken no responsibility. 

    We have no leader of the Free world tag but to us citizens being fed by msm bur but reality we are a international disgrace. 

    Our president reflects the values of our government a born liar. 

     

     
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    Posted: Jun. 14, 2020 - 2:01 PM ET #19

    We need to meet be away from America interests and start realizing what we actually represent in the world. A exploitable retail market to distribute junk .

    Where China is incapable of this other manufacturing areas will begin to supply this  wonderful new Babylonian center of classless consumers weilding world reserve notes and

    call it a day.

    our government is meaningless to the advanced world soiciety

    they found a way to proceed without the US. Most are relieved to get rid of that disappointed brat from serious discussion on sustainable development. As for American citizens you have no authority over your government. 

    Trump can't even convene a g7 submit let alone make any head way in international trade policies until he is reelected. 

    Not that Joe and Suzy will make any lasting change but digress to the failed policies foriegn and domestic of  Obama's administration. 

    The world will keep advancing as we stay stuck in grid lock.

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    We need to meet be away from America interests and start realizing what we actually represent in the world. A exploitable retail market to distribute junk .

    Where China is incapable of this other manufacturing areas will begin to supply this  wonderful new Babylonian center of classless consumers weilding world reserve notes and

    call it a day.

    our government is meaningless to the advanced world soiciety

    they found a way to proceed without the US. Most are relieved to get rid of that disappointed brat from serious discussion on sustainable development. As for American citizens you have no authority over your government. 

    Trump can't even convene a g7 submit let alone make any head way in international trade policies until he is reelected. 

    Not that Joe and Suzy will make any lasting change but digress to the failed policies foriegn and domestic of  Obama's administration. 

    The world will keep advancing as we stay stuck in grid lock.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 14, 2020 - 2:05 PM ET #20

    Stop there nature1970, slow down and check your sources...you are starting sound a little like the MSNBC ..the US black minority is 13.4 % not 25% and as of 11 months ago black inmates make up 40% of the prison population..not 70%..

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    Stop there nature1970, slow down and check your sources...you are starting sound a little like the MSNBC ..the US black minority is 13.4 % not 25% and as of 11 months ago black inmates make up 40% of the prison population..not 70%..

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    We need to meet be away from America interests and start realizing what we actually represent in the world. A exploitable retail market to distribute junk . Where China is incapable of this other manufacturing areas will begin to supply this weekend wonderful new Babylonian center of classless consumers weilding world reserve notes and call it a day. Our government is meaningless to the advanced world soiciety and they found a way to proceed without the US. Most are relieved to get rid of that disappointed nratnfrom serious discussion on sustainable development. As for American citizens you have no authority over your government.

    Sure we do ....we can vote every single one of them out of office...C'mon Man

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    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    We need to meet be away from America interests and start realizing what we actually represent in the world. A exploitable retail market to distribute junk . Where China is incapable of this other manufacturing areas will begin to supply this weekend wonderful new Babylonian center of classless consumers weilding world reserve notes and call it a day. Our government is meaningless to the advanced world soiciety and they found a way to proceed without the US. Most are relieved to get rid of that disappointed nratnfrom serious discussion on sustainable development. As for American citizens you have no authority over your government.

    Sure we do ....we can vote every single one of them out of office...C'mon Man

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970: We need to meet be away from America interests and start realizing what we actually represent in the world. A exploitable retail market to distribute junk . Where China is incapable of this other manufacturing areas will begin to supply this weekend wonderful new Babylonian center of classless consumers weilding world reserve notes and call it a day. Our government is meaningless to the advanced world soiciety and they found a way to proceed without the US. Most are relieved to get rid of that disappointed nratnfrom serious discussion on sustainable development. As for American citizens you have no authority over your government. Sure we do ....we can vote every single one of them out of office...C'mon Man

    You won't do that. You vote for the liar that pleases you with the best lies and then are surprised when his campaign promises turn out to be lies. Integrity, Character and Honesty have no value, just promises. If JFK were alive today and wanted to do a sequel to Profiles in Courage, he could not find eight qualified senators since his lifetime, that's the last 57 years. Not a chance.  

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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970: We need to meet be away from America interests and start realizing what we actually represent in the world. A exploitable retail market to distribute junk . Where China is incapable of this other manufacturing areas will begin to supply this weekend wonderful new Babylonian center of classless consumers weilding world reserve notes and call it a day. Our government is meaningless to the advanced world soiciety and they found a way to proceed without the US. Most are relieved to get rid of that disappointed nratnfrom serious discussion on sustainable development. As for American citizens you have no authority over your government. Sure we do ....we can vote every single one of them out of office...C'mon Man

    You won't do that. You vote for the liar that pleases you with the best lies and then are surprised when his campaign promises turn out to be lies. Integrity, Character and Honesty have no value, just promises. If JFK were alive today and wanted to do a sequel to Profiles in Courage, he could not find eight qualified senators since his lifetime, that's the last 57 years. Not a chance.  

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by KeyElement:

    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim: Quote Originally Posted by nature1970: We need to meet be away from America interests and start realizing what we actually represent in the world. A exploitable retail market to distribute junk . Where China is incapable of this other manufacturing areas will begin to supply this weekend wonderful new Babylonian center of classless consumers weilding world reserve notes and call it a day. Our government is meaningless to the advanced world soiciety and they found a way to proceed without the US. Most are relieved to get rid of that disappointed nratnfrom serious discussion on sustainable development. As for American citizens you have no authority over your government. Sure we do ....we can vote every single one of them out of office...C'mon Man You won't do that. You vote for the liar that pleases you with the best lies and then are surprised when his campaign promises turn out to be lies. Integrity, Character and Honesty have no value, just promises. If JFK were alive today and wanted to do a sequel to Profiles in Courage, he could not find eight qualified senators since his lifetime, that's the last 57 years. Not a chance.

    Name me one politician that doesn't lie. Name one that doesn't break campaign promises.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KeyElement:

    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim: Quote Originally Posted by nature1970: We need to meet be away from America interests and start realizing what we actually represent in the world. A exploitable retail market to distribute junk . Where China is incapable of this other manufacturing areas will begin to supply this weekend wonderful new Babylonian center of classless consumers weilding world reserve notes and call it a day. Our government is meaningless to the advanced world soiciety and they found a way to proceed without the US. Most are relieved to get rid of that disappointed nratnfrom serious discussion on sustainable development. As for American citizens you have no authority over your government. Sure we do ....we can vote every single one of them out of office...C'mon Man You won't do that. You vote for the liar that pleases you with the best lies and then are surprised when his campaign promises turn out to be lies. Integrity, Character and Honesty have no value, just promises. If JFK were alive today and wanted to do a sequel to Profiles in Courage, he could not find eight qualified senators since his lifetime, that's the last 57 years. Not a chance.

    Name me one politician that doesn't lie. Name one that doesn't break campaign promises.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 14, 2020 - 2:51 PM ET #24

    I think we see the problems...ding ding ding we have a winner we elect liars vagabonds drunks and stoohes and surprised they can't come up with something for good of all... 

    It's shocking just shocking.... 

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    I think we see the problems...ding ding ding we have a winner we elect liars vagabonds drunks and stoohes and surprised they can't come up with something for good of all... 

    It's shocking just shocking.... 

     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970: We need to meet be away from America interests and start realizing what we actually represent in the world. A exploitable retail market to distribute junk . Where China is incapable of this other manufacturing areas will begin to supply this weekend wonderful new Babylonian center of classless consumers weilding world reserve notes and call it a day. Our government is meaningless to the advanced world soiciety and they found a way to proceed without the US. Most are relieved to get rid of that disappointed nratnfrom serious discussion on sustainable development. As for American citizens you have no authority over your government. Sure we do ....we can vote every single one of them out of office...C'mon Man

    LMFAO the elected idiots are not the government. They are the Patsy of the government workers union. Career government workers in the buracreacy is actually the government. Call ngess passes spends ng and special interests laws the bureaucracy has been in systematic abuse of power since the boxers rebellion in Western Massachusetts..... 

    Our government isn't elected they are hired and appointed... After this duce another duce will take his place. But they are a figurrhead to the actual power welded at the IRS dhhs DHS border and customs covert affairs conducted with secret courts warrants prisons that no one will ever admit actually exist. 

    Our government is a group of elitists that report to no one and believe they are better than humans which they refer to as animals in their zoo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970: We need to meet be away from America interests and start realizing what we actually represent in the world. A exploitable retail market to distribute junk . Where China is incapable of this other manufacturing areas will begin to supply this weekend wonderful new Babylonian center of classless consumers weilding world reserve notes and call it a day. Our government is meaningless to the advanced world soiciety and they found a way to proceed without the US. Most are relieved to get rid of that disappointed nratnfrom serious discussion on sustainable development. As for American citizens you have no authority over your government. Sure we do ....we can vote every single one of them out of office...C'mon Man

    LMFAO the elected idiots are not the government. They are the Patsy of the government workers union. Career government workers in the buracreacy is actually the government. Call ngess passes spends ng and special interests laws the bureaucracy has been in systematic abuse of power since the boxers rebellion in Western Massachusetts..... 

    Our government isn't elected they are hired and appointed... After this duce another duce will take his place. But they are a figurrhead to the actual power welded at the IRS dhhs DHS border and customs covert affairs conducted with secret courts warrants prisons that no one will ever admit actually exist. 

    Our government is a group of elitists that report to no one and believe they are better than humans which they refer to as animals in their zoo.

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