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    General Collin Powell: Trump is a National Disgrace

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    dl36
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    Posted: Sep. 14, 2016 - 7:19 PM ET #26

    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    Mc Cain spent years in a pow camp turned down a early release and stayed to support the troops there. Obviously a hero . Powell pointed at a map with a pointer explaining the retaking of Kuwait. Huh he is a hero? Hello is this earth.....


    Honestly I think of all vets that enlist and put their lives on the line as heroes.   You may think about bets differently and lack the respect hat I have for them and that is fine, we can agree to disagree on the respect that we show to vets.  

    But let's get real here.  You mention mccain's service record in Vietnam,  can you tell me about powell's service record in Vietnam? 

    Do you know anything about powell's service record to his country? 

    Or are you coming in with the low information uneducated perspective as trump supporter that wants to blast the credibility of someone that does not think trump is fit for president.

    I never know why when a vet exercises his constitutional first amendment in having an individual opinion why it suddenly becomes open season with a war on vets and questioning their service.  Completely disgraceful IMHO, but seems to be how some people think 
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    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    Mc Cain spent years in a pow camp turned down a early release and stayed to support the troops there. Obviously a hero . Powell pointed at a map with a pointer explaining the retaking of Kuwait. Huh he is a hero? Hello is this earth.....


    Honestly I think of all vets that enlist and put their lives on the line as heroes.   You may think about bets differently and lack the respect hat I have for them and that is fine, we can agree to disagree on the respect that we show to vets.  

    But let's get real here.  You mention mccain's service record in Vietnam,  can you tell me about powell's service record in Vietnam? 

    Do you know anything about powell's service record to his country? 

    Or are you coming in with the low information uneducated perspective as trump supporter that wants to blast the credibility of someone that does not think trump is fit for president.

    I never know why when a vet exercises his constitutional first amendment in having an individual opinion why it suddenly becomes open season with a war on vets and questioning their service.  Completely disgraceful IMHO, but seems to be how some people think 
     
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    Posted: Sep. 14, 2016 - 7:34 PM ET #27

    Did he spend over five years in the Hanoi Hilton and today can't raise his hands past his chest
    I think McCain got the bigger hero here..


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    Did he spend over five years in the Hanoi Hilton and today can't raise his hands past his chest
    I think McCain got the bigger hero here..


     
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    Posted: Sep. 14, 2016 - 7:56 PM ET #28

    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    Not to continue to beat a dead horse.here but do you believe Colin Powell was injured by a crime in that his intellectual property was taken and published without his consent and that profit from this theft was.achieved as.network news made money and profit in disclosing the contents of.said property through advertising and marketing strategies.

    I know you would love to blow by this
    But do you believe Powell was a victim of a cyber crime.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    Not to continue to beat a dead horse.here but do you believe Colin Powell was injured by a crime in that his intellectual property was taken and published without his consent and that profit from this theft was.achieved as.network news made money and profit in disclosing the contents of.said property through advertising and marketing strategies.

    I know you would love to blow by this
    But do you believe Powell was a victim of a cyber crime.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 14, 2016 - 8:43 PM ET #29

    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    I see,that HRC was mentioned, in passing ,in the opening monologue,but not what was said ...it must have been bad or it would have been posted..

    Actually it was. Shocked that you and Hugh missed it. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    I see,that HRC was mentioned, in passing ,in the opening monologue,but not what was said ...it must have been bad or it would have been posted..

    Actually it was. Shocked that you and Hugh missed it. 
     
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    Posted: Sep. 14, 2016 - 8:45 PM ET #30

    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh_Jorgan:

    I disagree with your assessment of me. No big deal.
    We will agree to disagree. 

    Regarding Scal ... most people have that one person in life that they just can't help making fun of. Scal is mine.
    He is a big boy who can sling his own share of sh!t ... although if my exchange of barbs with him were a prize fight, he would be Andy Price and I would be Sugar Ray Leonard 

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usugXyL_ApE   

    Throw in the towel Mickey, throw in the towel! 

    Not bad. These are the type of humorist posts where we have gotten along over the years 
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh_Jorgan:

    I disagree with your assessment of me. No big deal.
    We will agree to disagree. 

    Regarding Scal ... most people have that one person in life that they just can't help making fun of. Scal is mine.
    He is a big boy who can sling his own share of sh!t ... although if my exchange of barbs with him were a prize fight, he would be Andy Price and I would be Sugar Ray Leonard 

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usugXyL_ApE   

    Throw in the towel Mickey, throw in the towel! 

    Not bad. These are the type of humorist posts where we have gotten along over the years 
     
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    Posted: Sep. 14, 2016 - 9:19 PM ET #31

    Colin also thinks Bill is still di#king bimbos at home 
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    Colin also thinks Bill is still di#king bimbos at home 
     
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    Posted: Sep. 14, 2016 - 10:24 PM ET #32

    Quote Originally Posted by djbrow:


    Actually it was. Shocked that you and Hugh missed it. 



    LIke I said ,I got the part about Powell expressing frustration about his name being linked to Clinton's email issues... but have to admit I missed were Powell said things about Clinton not looking health,her being greedy, not transformational and looking  shifty if not a liar.....or about Bill Clinton still using the ol'dip stick on bimbos at home...
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    Quote Originally Posted by djbrow:


    Actually it was. Shocked that you and Hugh missed it. 



    LIke I said ,I got the part about Powell expressing frustration about his name being linked to Clinton's email issues... but have to admit I missed were Powell said things about Clinton not looking health,her being greedy, not transformational and looking  shifty if not a liar.....or about Bill Clinton still using the ol'dip stick on bimbos at home...
     
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    Posted: Sep. 14, 2016 - 10:33 PM ET #33

    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    Mc Cain spent years in a pow camp turned down a early release and stayed to support the troops there. Obviously a hero . Powell pointed at a map with a pointer explaining the retaking of Kuwait. Huh he is a hero? Hello is this earth.....
    I like people who were not captured.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    Mc Cain spent years in a pow camp turned down a early release and stayed to support the troops there. Obviously a hero . Powell pointed at a map with a pointer explaining the retaking of Kuwait. Huh he is a hero? Hello is this earth.....
    I like people who were not captured.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 14, 2016 - 11:14 PM ET #34

    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    Did he spend over five years in the Hanoi Hilton and today can't raise his hands past his chest
    I think McCain got the bigger hero here..



    Wait,  so do you even know about Powell's service in Vietnam?

    Or is this more of the emotional uneducated low information point of view?

    Can you tell us about powell's record of service in Vietnam before you try to characterize him as some one like gw bush who never saw actual danger in combat yet sent people off to war. 

    It's sad that you attack his creditability with out knowing his history. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    Did he spend over five years in the Hanoi Hilton and today can't raise his hands past his chest
    I think McCain got the bigger hero here..



    Wait,  so do you even know about Powell's service in Vietnam?

    Or is this more of the emotional uneducated low information point of view?

    Can you tell us about powell's record of service in Vietnam before you try to characterize him as some one like gw bush who never saw actual danger in combat yet sent people off to war. 

    It's sad that you attack his creditability with out knowing his history. 
     
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    Posted: Sep. 15, 2016 - 12:55 AM ET #35

    I get it. Trump stated a over exaggerated position to become noticed. It created buzz press publicity.
    It became a focal point to blue collar citizens. NAFTA and other outsourcing trade agreement cost a lot jobs in the us the human trafficking and criminal behaviour of some illegals have left a distaste I. Many American mouths as they gaze awe struck at the local and evening news.
    His stump speeches make sense they were filled to capacity 1000's gather to witness his stump speech and realize the media portrail and the actual speech is like different dimension in the space time continum feeding the media is a bias league of professional spin doctors. He visited the border in Texas he stumped in Arizona McCain described his supporters the crazies and Donald stated he wasnt war hero .
    So he could being attention to what he does for veterans and what on McCain's watch va has done for veterans his plan allow veterans to choose their health providor
    Hillary's position is standard party position investigate the va improve conditions and stick with the program.
    He had a spat with some sponsors and went on 15 month tour of America delivering 100's of speeches to near or at capacity venues in every state.
    He has them on YouTube.
    He is now in msg build a wall.
    and bring back jobs
    The message is reaching near 1000000 live audience members
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    I get it. Trump stated a over exaggerated position to become noticed. It created buzz press publicity.
    It became a focal point to blue collar citizens. NAFTA and other outsourcing trade agreement cost a lot jobs in the us the human trafficking and criminal behaviour of some illegals have left a distaste I. Many American mouths as they gaze awe struck at the local and evening news.
    His stump speeches make sense they were filled to capacity 1000's gather to witness his stump speech and realize the media portrail and the actual speech is like different dimension in the space time continum feeding the media is a bias league of professional spin doctors. He visited the border in Texas he stumped in Arizona McCain described his supporters the crazies and Donald stated he wasnt war hero .
    So he could being attention to what he does for veterans and what on McCain's watch va has done for veterans his plan allow veterans to choose their health providor
    Hillary's position is standard party position investigate the va improve conditions and stick with the program.
    He had a spat with some sponsors and went on 15 month tour of America delivering 100's of speeches to near or at capacity venues in every state.
    He has them on YouTube.
    He is now in msg build a wall.
    and bring back jobs
    The message is reaching near 1000000 live audience members
     
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    Posted: Sep. 15, 2016 - 1:27 AM ET #36

    Quote Originally Posted by dl36:


    Wait,  so do you even know about Powell's service in Vietnam?

    Or is this more of the emotional uneducated low information point of view?

    Can you tell us about powell's record of service in Vietnam before you try to characterize him as some one like gw bush who never saw actual danger in combat yet sent people off to war. 

    It's sad that you attack his creditability with out knowing his history. 

    DL I think you're missing his point. He's not saying that CP is not a hero, he's saying that no matter what...you cannot put his sacrifice above McCain's

    And I happen to agree with him on that point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dl36:


    Wait,  so do you even know about Powell's service in Vietnam?

    Or is this more of the emotional uneducated low information point of view?

    Can you tell us about powell's record of service in Vietnam before you try to characterize him as some one like gw bush who never saw actual danger in combat yet sent people off to war. 

    It's sad that you attack his creditability with out knowing his history. 

    DL I think you're missing his point. He's not saying that CP is not a hero, he's saying that no matter what...you cannot put his sacrifice above McCain's

    And I happen to agree with him on that point.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 15, 2016 - 9:51 AM ET #37

    Quote Originally Posted by TILTOLOGIC:

    Colin also thinks Bill is still di#king bimbos at home 



    of all the discussion of emails in this campaign so far, this was the best part. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by TILTOLOGIC:

    Colin also thinks Bill is still di#king bimbos at home 



    of all the discussion of emails in this campaign so far, this was the best part. 
     
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    Posted: Sep. 15, 2016 - 12:31 PM ET #38

    Quote Originally Posted by darkhorse12:

    I like people who were not captured.

    this deserves a 3 roller    well played
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    Quote Originally Posted by darkhorse12:

    I like people who were not captured.

    this deserves a 3 roller    well played
     
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    Posted: Sep. 15, 2016 - 5:46 PM ET #39

    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    Mc Cain spent years in a pow camp turned down a early release and stayed to support the troops there. Obviously a hero . Powell pointed at a map with a pointer explaining the retaking of Kuwait. Huh he is a hero? Hello is this earth.....

    You ask the question is Powell a hero.  

    Can you answer that?

    And then answer if you know about his service record in Vietnam?

    Simply asking questions as to not make assumptions here 
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    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    Mc Cain spent years in a pow camp turned down a early release and stayed to support the troops there. Obviously a hero . Powell pointed at a map with a pointer explaining the retaking of Kuwait. Huh he is a hero? Hello is this earth.....

    You ask the question is Powell a hero.  

    Can you answer that?

    And then answer if you know about his service record in Vietnam?

    Simply asking questions as to not make assumptions here 
     
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    Posted: Sep. 15, 2016 - 6:39 PM ET #40

    Quote Originally Posted by djbrow:


    You call out anyone you disagree with. 

    You complain when anyone does the same to you. 

    You are one of the bigger hypocrites on covers as a result (like this thread where you discuss reading comprehension of someone you disagree with). 

    https://www.covers.com/postingforum/POST01/showmessage.aspx?spt=87&sub=102307640

    But I digress. 

    If you cannot handle debate when you make ridiculous statements like the below, then don't debate. 

    https://www.covers.com/postingforum/post01/showmessage.aspx?spt=87&sub=102313557
    https://www.covers.com/postingforum/post01/showmessage.aspx?spt=87&sub=102298889

    And your suggestion that you don't engage in namecalling or demeaning a poster? Should I cite examples of your responses to Scal?

    Again, I get that you call out those you disagree with. I never called you out but so be it. It goes with the territory. 

    I respect others opinions. I debate others assertions of facts that are untrue (like yours about false light laws). I respect your opinions. I will debate you on assertions of facts that are untrue. 




    one of bigger racist hypocrites <------ fixed it for you 


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    Quote Originally Posted by djbrow:


    You call out anyone you disagree with. 

    You complain when anyone does the same to you. 

    You are one of the bigger hypocrites on covers as a result (like this thread where you discuss reading comprehension of someone you disagree with). 

    https://www.covers.com/postingforum/POST01/showmessage.aspx?spt=87&sub=102307640

    But I digress. 

    If you cannot handle debate when you make ridiculous statements like the below, then don't debate. 

    https://www.covers.com/postingforum/post01/showmessage.aspx?spt=87&sub=102313557
    https://www.covers.com/postingforum/post01/showmessage.aspx?spt=87&sub=102298889

    And your suggestion that you don't engage in namecalling or demeaning a poster? Should I cite examples of your responses to Scal?

    Again, I get that you call out those you disagree with. I never called you out but so be it. It goes with the territory. 

    I respect others opinions. I debate others assertions of facts that are untrue (like yours about false light laws). I respect your opinions. I will debate you on assertions of facts that are untrue. 




    one of bigger racist hypocrites <------ fixed it for you 


     
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    Posted: Sep. 15, 2016 - 6:59 PM ET #41

    Quote Originally Posted by ilsp2003:


    one of bigger racist hypocrites <------ fixed it for you 



    Typical ... you failed to debate your views in a persuasive manner so you default to playing the race card.
    When all else fails, scream racism!!!

    If that makes you feel better, then go yell it from the highest mountain top 
    bigreds daddy
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    Quote Originally Posted by ilsp2003:


    one of bigger racist hypocrites <------ fixed it for you 



    Typical ... you failed to debate your views in a persuasive manner so you default to playing the race card.
    When all else fails, scream racism!!!

    If that makes you feel better, then go yell it from the highest mountain top 
     
    ilsp2003
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    Posted: Sep. 15, 2016 - 7:48 PM ET #42

    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh_Jorgan:


    Typical ... you failed to debate your views in a persuasive manner so you default to playing the race card.
    When all else fails, scream racism!!!

    If that makes you feel better, then go yell it from the highest mountain top 



    The OP is right when he said  you are one of the bigger hypocrites on covers 


    I once called you  racist hypocrite and you did not like it either
    we were debating back them ...

     . Not trying to bump a thread up 

    post # 24

    https://www.covers.com/postingforum/post01/showmessage.aspx?spt=35&sub=102297258

    Reply
    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh_Jorgan:


    Typical ... you failed to debate your views in a persuasive manner so you default to playing the race card.
    When all else fails, scream racism!!!

    If that makes you feel better, then go yell it from the highest mountain top 



    The OP is right when he said  you are one of the bigger hypocrites on covers 


    I once called you  racist hypocrite and you did not like it either
    we were debating back them ...

     . Not trying to bump a thread up 

    post # 24

    https://www.covers.com/postingforum/post01/showmessage.aspx?spt=35&sub=102297258

     
    Hugh_Jorgan
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    Posted: Sep. 16, 2016 - 6:56 AM ET #43

    Quote Originally Posted by ilsp2003:




    The OP is right when he said  you are one of the bigger hypocrites on covers 

    I once called you  racist hypocrite and you did not like it either
    we were debating back them ...

     . Not trying to bump a thread up 

    post # 24

    https://www.covers.com/postingforum/post01/showmessage.aspx?spt=35&sub=102297258


    I'm glad you put forth that link for proof, as it is definitive proof that you see what you want, and not what is written.

    Be kind enough to read post #21.
    You see that as racist.
    I see you as delusional. 
    I win 

    If you ever acquire the ability to absorb information without a preconceived bias distorting it, please get back to me and we can have a productive debate. Until such time, you can continue to play your default card when you are proven to be a dunce ... "HE'S A RACIST!!!" 
    bigreds daddy
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    Quote Originally Posted by ilsp2003:




    The OP is right when he said  you are one of the bigger hypocrites on covers 

    I once called you  racist hypocrite and you did not like it either
    we were debating back them ...

     . Not trying to bump a thread up 

    post # 24

    https://www.covers.com/postingforum/post01/showmessage.aspx?spt=35&sub=102297258


    I'm glad you put forth that link for proof, as it is definitive proof that you see what you want, and not what is written.

    Be kind enough to read post #21.
    You see that as racist.
    I see you as delusional. 
    I win 

    If you ever acquire the ability to absorb information without a preconceived bias distorting it, please get back to me and we can have a productive debate. Until such time, you can continue to play your default card when you are proven to be a dunce ... "HE'S A RACIST!!!" 
     
    nature1970
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    Posted: Sep. 16, 2016 - 12:36 PM ET #44

    For a party that day doesn't believe in taunting bullying and treating all equally demo rats throughout this campaign been name.calling trump and his supporters
    The ruling elitists protest too much me thinks
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    For a party that day doesn't believe in taunting bullying and treating all equally demo rats throughout this campaign been name.calling trump and his supporters
    The ruling elitists protest too much me thinks
     
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    Posted: Sep. 17, 2016 - 11:08 PM ET #45

    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh_Jorgan:


    I'm glad you put forth that link for proof, as it is definitive proof that you see what you want, and not what is written.

    Be kind enough to read post #21.
    You see that as racist.
    I see you as delusional. 
    I win 

    If you ever acquire the ability to absorb information without a preconceived bias distorting it, please get back to me and we can have a productive debate. Until such time, you can continue to play your default card when you are proven to be a dunce ... "HE'S A RACIST!!!" 


    what did you win ?

     are you related to  bowlslit ?


    Reply
    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh_Jorgan:


    I'm glad you put forth that link for proof, as it is definitive proof that you see what you want, and not what is written.

    Be kind enough to read post #21.
    You see that as racist.
    I see you as delusional. 
    I win 

    If you ever acquire the ability to absorb information without a preconceived bias distorting it, please get back to me and we can have a productive debate. Until such time, you can continue to play your default card when you are proven to be a dunce ... "HE'S A RACIST!!!" 


    what did you win ?

     are you related to  bowlslit ?


     
    dl36
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    Posted: Sep. 25, 2016 - 8:29 PM ET #46

    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    For a party that day doesn't believe in taunting bullying and treating all equally demo rats throughout this campaign been name.calling trump and his supporters
    The ruling elitists protest too much me thinks

    Name calling is one thing.  But em being descriptive is another
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    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    For a party that day doesn't believe in taunting bullying and treating all equally demo rats throughout this campaign been name.calling trump and his supporters
    The ruling elitists protest too much me thinks

    Name calling is one thing.  But em being descriptive is another
     
     
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    Posted: Sep. 25, 2016 - 11:05 PM ET #47

    Democrats spin a fine story. Reality Democrats have been playing the violin and you dance. Gun control more laws stop crime yah right it creates more victims. John Hopkins take care of the inner city victims in Baltimore and dc. Mt Sinai hospital uses cadavers in NY Boston University Dartmouth uses cadavers in ne. Msu and Michigan takes care of detroit. And brinks security moves the parts whole triage teams in the cellar of most every private hospital removes use able organs and entire buracracy in the inner structure of hierarchy of management of health deals with the donor recipe any processes. These public policies are influenced by buisness geniuses and the last thing any demo rat in Washington wishes to discuss is ammo control. Always guns, bullets kill ... if a 223 or AK 222 round is responsible in the deaths of half of inner city victims then make that ammo illegal. If gangs will kill than eliminate the gangs. But because both of these serve a greater good hospital profits and subsequently campaign donations do nothing and blame Republicans seems to be a huge school of thought.
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    Democrats spin a fine story. Reality Democrats have been playing the violin and you dance. Gun control more laws stop crime yah right it creates more victims. John Hopkins take care of the inner city victims in Baltimore and dc. Mt Sinai hospital uses cadavers in NY Boston University Dartmouth uses cadavers in ne. Msu and Michigan takes care of detroit. And brinks security moves the parts whole triage teams in the cellar of most every private hospital removes use able organs and entire buracracy in the inner structure of hierarchy of management of health deals with the donor recipe any processes. These public policies are influenced by buisness geniuses and the last thing any demo rat in Washington wishes to discuss is ammo control. Always guns, bullets kill ... if a 223 or AK 222 round is responsible in the deaths of half of inner city victims then make that ammo illegal. If gangs will kill than eliminate the gangs. But because both of these serve a greater good hospital profits and subsequently campaign donations do nothing and blame Republicans seems to be a huge school of thought.
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