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    Food for elderly and children. Who needs it???

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    mattbrot
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    Posted: Mar. 17, 2017 - 8:01 PM ET #1

    https://m.dailykos.com/story/2017/3/16/1644266/-Trump-budget-director-Feeding-elderly-and-children-has-to-end-it-s-not-showing-any-results

    True scum. Real shame
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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.
    https://m.dailykos.com/story/2017/3/16/1644266/-Trump-budget-director-Feeding-elderly-and-children-has-to-end-it-s-not-showing-any-results

    True scum. Real shame
     
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    Posted: Mar. 17, 2017 - 9:33 PM ET #2

    If he cuts the elderly programs they represent 57% of election day voters in off years he will lose congress.
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    If he cuts the elderly programs they represent 57% of election day voters in off years he will lose congress.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 17, 2017 - 10:36 PM ET #3

    Not if they starve to death.
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    Not if they starve to death.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 17, 2017 - 10:40 PM ET #4

    While we're at it let's cut the WIC program too. Let the rich movie stars handle the charity from now on.

    They can pay for big bird too. They already handle the tickle me elmo right.
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    While we're at it let's cut the WIC program too. Let the rich movie stars handle the charity from now on.

    They can pay for big bird too. They already handle the tickle me elmo right.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 17, 2017 - 10:46 PM ET #5

    Nature I agree about ruffling the feathers of the elderly voting base". But political "positioning aside" this is pretty evil. Especially considering the financial cost of meals on wheels relative to the total pie and many many other policies that conveniently benefit "others"
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    Nature I agree about ruffling the feathers of the elderly voting base". But political "positioning aside" this is pretty evil. Especially considering the financial cost of meals on wheels relative to the total pie and many many other policies that conveniently benefit "others"
     
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    Posted: Mar. 17, 2017 - 10:59 PM ET #6

    Quote Originally Posted by mattbrot:

    Nature I agree about ruffling the feathers of the elderly voting base". But political "positioning aside" this is pretty evil. Especially considering the financial cost of meals on wheels relative to the total pie and many many other policies that conveniently benefit "others"

    are they pushing to corporation controlled assisted living nursing homes as a trend to start in motion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattbrot:

    Nature I agree about ruffling the feathers of the elderly voting base". But political "positioning aside" this is pretty evil. Especially considering the financial cost of meals on wheels relative to the total pie and many many other policies that conveniently benefit "others"

    are they pushing to corporation controlled assisted living nursing homes as a trend to start in motion.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 18, 2017 - 10:08 AM ET #7

    Though of this last  night Matt,

    in a cause and effect of whether money would be saved by cutting the program meals on wheels, . say the 3.5 million who depend on this program were cut from the program it is designed as a welfare check on shut ins. without this food they (the seniors) will die or make arrangements to enter a nursing facility or die.

    once in the facility there assets will be absorbed if any to go to a escrow fund to provide longterm care they are allowed 40.00 a month from social security or assets to make do with personal conveniences. The fed then would be responsible for the care. 

    so instead of delivering a 5 buck meal the state and federal government can pay through medicare and medicaid, 3 meals @ 10.00 a full staff of cna pca laundry, gardening and grounds rns and dr as well as heat electricity and activities for the citizen. 

    we are saving about 5.00 a day to pay for a 2500 a day facility.

    this makes absolutely no sense in saving money in long term short term or any term. Whomever came up with this cut is an behind clown, Trump included
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    Though of this last  night Matt,

    in a cause and effect of whether money would be saved by cutting the program meals on wheels, . say the 3.5 million who depend on this program were cut from the program it is designed as a welfare check on shut ins. without this food they (the seniors) will die or make arrangements to enter a nursing facility or die.

    once in the facility there assets will be absorbed if any to go to a escrow fund to provide longterm care they are allowed 40.00 a month from social security or assets to make do with personal conveniences. The fed then would be responsible for the care. 

    so instead of delivering a 5 buck meal the state and federal government can pay through medicare and medicaid, 3 meals @ 10.00 a full staff of cna pca laundry, gardening and grounds rns and dr as well as heat electricity and activities for the citizen. 

    we are saving about 5.00 a day to pay for a 2500 a day facility.

    this makes absolutely no sense in saving money in long term short term or any term. Whomever came up with this cut is an behind clown, Trump included
     
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    Posted: Mar. 18, 2017 - 10:11 AM ET #8

    are there any intelligent people in  washington, because all I can see is bunch of sic demented arshes with law degrees and can look no furthur than mirror to admire how fair they are... (queen in snow white affliction of vanity)
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    are there any intelligent people in  washington, because all I can see is bunch of sic demented arshes with law degrees and can look no furthur than mirror to admire how fair they are... (queen in snow white affliction of vanity)
     
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    Posted: Mar. 18, 2017 - 11:15 AM ET #9

    Quote Originally Posted by Sabanesque:

    The best strategic, common sense cuts are the UN budget cuts, specifically the refugee programs. 

    Another A+ cut--> Nat'l Public Broadcasting and Art Councils. CUT please!

    PBS will get through its cuts with grants from the Bill and Melinda foundation, George SOROS foundation and contributions from viewers like myserlf, UN again can pay for its programs through qatar switzerland, Saudi Arabia and chinas participation , if UN removes its office to un headquarters switzerland so be it....

    my focus is on programs that actually provide resousce Food to the elderly poor diabled... not just a bunch of forms to get a card to subsidize hannafords operations in scarboro me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sabanesque:

    The best strategic, common sense cuts are the UN budget cuts, specifically the refugee programs. 

    Another A+ cut--> Nat'l Public Broadcasting and Art Councils. CUT please!

    PBS will get through its cuts with grants from the Bill and Melinda foundation, George SOROS foundation and contributions from viewers like myserlf, UN again can pay for its programs through qatar switzerland, Saudi Arabia and chinas participation , if UN removes its office to un headquarters switzerland so be it....

    my focus is on programs that actually provide resousce Food to the elderly poor diabled... not just a bunch of forms to get a card to subsidize hannafords operations in scarboro me.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 18, 2017 - 4:03 PM ET #10

    Don't abort fetuses, but don't feed them once they are born because they are a burden.   Makes perfect sense (R)ight?
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    Don't abort fetuses, but don't feed them once they are born because they are a burden.   Makes perfect sense (R)ight?
     
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    Posted: Mar. 18, 2017 - 7:57 PM ET #11


    Not only could De-funding of Meals on Wheels force more elderly into Nursing Homes but they also lose that social contact with the delivery volunteers whom they look forward to seeing and conversing with on a daily basis.  Cruel, very cruel.

    Paul Ryan is a weasel.  Put him on the top of my list of smirk faced politicians I would like to smack.  Baztard.  Just a fukking baztard. 
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    Not only could De-funding of Meals on Wheels force more elderly into Nursing Homes but they also lose that social contact with the delivery volunteers whom they look forward to seeing and conversing with on a daily basis.  Cruel, very cruel.

    Paul Ryan is a weasel.  Put him on the top of my list of smirk faced politicians I would like to smack.  Baztard.  Just a fukking baztard. 
     
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    Posted: Mar. 18, 2017 - 8:04 PM ET #12

    Quote Originally Posted by TheGoldenGoose:


    Not only could De-funding of Meals on Wheels force more elderly into Nursing Homes but they also lose that social contact with the delivery volunteers whom they look forward to seeing and conversing with on a daily basis.  Cruel, very cruel.

    Paul Ryan is a weasel.  Put him on the top of my list of smirk faced politicians I would like to smack.  Baztard.  Just a fukking baztard. 

    Thank you sir.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheGoldenGoose:


    Not only could De-funding of Meals on Wheels force more elderly into Nursing Homes but they also lose that social contact with the delivery volunteers whom they look forward to seeing and conversing with on a daily basis.  Cruel, very cruel.

    Paul Ryan is a weasel.  Put him on the top of my list of smirk faced politicians I would like to smack.  Baztard.  Just a fukking baztard. 

    Thank you sir.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 18, 2017 - 8:13 PM ET #13

    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:


    Thank you sir.




    I keep my 90 yr old Father with me at home and take him into the Nursing Home most days so he can have Lunch and Dinner with my 92 yr old Mother.  Because he doesn't get Meals on Wheels at home, the Nursing Home gives him a price break on food and gets a partial reimbursement from the State.  Guess I'll have to pick up that bill now too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:


    Thank you sir.




    I keep my 90 yr old Father with me at home and take him into the Nursing Home most days so he can have Lunch and Dinner with my 92 yr old Mother.  Because he doesn't get Meals on Wheels at home, the Nursing Home gives him a price break on food and gets a partial reimbursement from the State.  Guess I'll have to pick up that bill now too.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 18, 2017 - 8:38 PM ET #14

    i have friends that deliver food and others that cook for landmark good neibors our big fund raiser event is the shawnee peak triatholan extreme mountain adventure. to promote the cause.

    in bridgton me. ...
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    i have friends that deliver food and others that cook for landmark good neibors our big fund raiser event is the shawnee peak triatholan extreme mountain adventure. to promote the cause.

    in bridgton me. ...
     
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    Posted: Mar. 18, 2017 - 9:31 PM ET #15


    Love Maine.  Never skied Shawnee but spent a lot of time in nearby Waterville Valley, NH.  Skied Saddleback and Sugarloaf.  Used to vacation in Rangely.  Also climbed Mt Bigelow and of course Katahdin.  Took a 10 day trip across the Allagash Waterway.  Some really great memories.
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    Love Maine.  Never skied Shawnee but spent a lot of time in nearby Waterville Valley, NH.  Skied Saddleback and Sugarloaf.  Used to vacation in Rangely.  Also climbed Mt Bigelow and of course Katahdin.  Took a 10 day trip across the Allagash Waterway.  Some really great memories.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 18, 2017 - 9:47 PM ET #16

    worked on sugarloaf spillway a as a lift attendant,

    watched olympic athletes like bode miller slam it on competition hill.
    live on the st john where allagash flows into, 

    hunted on main stream , Ripley, Cambridge me. 

    and been all over the state most of my life.

    beautiful place if you can get away from the tourists traps on coast 
    and in the sebago region...


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    worked on sugarloaf spillway a as a lift attendant,

    watched olympic athletes like bode miller slam it on competition hill.
    live on the st john where allagash flows into, 

    hunted on main stream , Ripley, Cambridge me. 

    and been all over the state most of my life.

    beautiful place if you can get away from the tourists traps on coast 
    and in the sebago region...


     
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    Posted: Mar. 18, 2017 - 10:02 PM ET #17

    if you get there goose it is on the map,
    on mt dimmick pond ontop of moxie mountain, above bingham me,
    near the radar site for the feds.

    i left a aluminum canoe for anyone to use you will need to bring a paddle or two but there are nice sunapee trout there. 24- 30 inch range in the deep hole. 

    might need a fish finder.  

    but your more than welcome goose me and my bro bought it there a few years back been using it ever since when we find the time...
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    if you get there goose it is on the map,
    on mt dimmick pond ontop of moxie mountain, above bingham me,
    near the radar site for the feds.

    i left a aluminum canoe for anyone to use you will need to bring a paddle or two but there are nice sunapee trout there. 24- 30 inch range in the deep hole. 

    might need a fish finder.  

    but your more than welcome goose me and my bro bought it there a few years back been using it ever since when we find the time...
     
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    Posted: Mar. 18, 2017 - 10:17 PM ET #18

    Quote Originally Posted by BWS77:

    Don't abort fetuses, but don't feed them once they are born because they are a burden.   Makes perfect sense (R)ight?
    Or to phrase it more accurately, too many Republicans are only pro PRE-life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BWS77:

    Don't abort fetuses, but don't feed them once they are born because they are a burden.   Makes perfect sense (R)ight?
    Or to phrase it more accurately, too many Republicans are only pro PRE-life.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 18, 2017 - 11:00 PM ET #19

    Libs want to ban guns because they kill people ,but are completely fine with women having abortions that kill unborn Americans ..

    Twisted thinking .......


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    Libs want to ban guns because they kill people ,but are completely fine with women having abortions that kill unborn Americans ..

    Twisted thinking .......


     
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    Posted: Mar. 18, 2017 - 11:48 PM ET #20

    err liberals want ban lawful citizens from having guns, so unlawful citizens can kill them quicker.
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    err liberals want ban lawful citizens from having guns, so unlawful citizens can kill them quicker.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 19, 2017 - 1:34 AM ET #21

    Quote Originally Posted by TheGoldenGoose:


    Not only could De-funding of Meals on Wheels force more elderly into Nursing Homes but they also lose that social contact with the delivery volunteers whom they look forward to seeing and conversing with on a daily basis.  Cruel, very cruel.

    Paul Ryan is a weasel.  Put him on the top of my list of smirk faced politicians I would like to smack.  Baztard.  Just a fukking baztard. 

    Isn't it the Trump's budget proposal but not from Paul Ryan? It appears Trump proposes it. 


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    Quote Originally Posted by TheGoldenGoose:


    Not only could De-funding of Meals on Wheels force more elderly into Nursing Homes but they also lose that social contact with the delivery volunteers whom they look forward to seeing and conversing with on a daily basis.  Cruel, very cruel.

    Paul Ryan is a weasel.  Put him on the top of my list of smirk faced politicians I would like to smack.  Baztard.  Just a fukking baztard. 

    Isn't it the Trump's budget proposal but not from Paul Ryan? It appears Trump proposes it. 


     
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    Posted: Mar. 19, 2017 - 1:57 AM ET #22

    Quote Originally Posted by mattbrot:

    https://m.dailykos.com/story/2017/3/16/1644266/-Trump-budget-director-Feeding-elderly-and-children-has-to-end-it-s-not-showing-any-results

    True scum. Real shame


    Fake news.

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2017/03/18/meal-on-wheels-trump-budget-proposal-cuts/99308928/

    ...The popular program — which mainly uses volunteer drivers to provide hot meals to older Americans across the country — doesn't directly receive federal funding. As Trump's budget director, Mick Mulvaney, told reporters Thursday, "Meals on Wheels is not a federal program."...
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattbrot:

    https://m.dailykos.com/story/2017/3/16/1644266/-Trump-budget-director-Feeding-elderly-and-children-has-to-end-it-s-not-showing-any-results

    True scum. Real shame


    Fake news.

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2017/03/18/meal-on-wheels-trump-budget-proposal-cuts/99308928/

    ...The popular program — which mainly uses volunteer drivers to provide hot meals to older Americans across the country — doesn't directly receive federal funding. As Trump's budget director, Mick Mulvaney, told reporters Thursday, "Meals on Wheels is not a federal program."...
     
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    Ryan put the bug in Trump's ear.  Ultimately it comes down to an individual State Budget decision.  In the end, the Military Industrial Corporate Fukks rake in the profits while the Middle Class and Elderly take it up the azz. 

    The individual States absolutely have their hands tied. 
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    Ryan put the bug in Trump's ear.  Ultimately it comes down to an individual State Budget decision.  In the end, the Military Industrial Corporate Fukks rake in the profits while the Middle Class and Elderly take it up the azz. 

    The individual States absolutely have their hands tied. 
     
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    I say we pay for these types of programs with a special tax on skinny jeans, speedo's and spandex shorts that cover more than a square yard.
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    I say we pay for these types of programs with a special tax on skinny jeans, speedo's and spandex shorts that cover more than a square yard.
     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by wordsmyth:



    Fake news.

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2017/03/18/meal-on-wheels-trump-budget-proposal-cuts/99308928/

    ...The popular program — which mainly uses volunteer drivers to provide hot meals to older Americans across the country — doesn't directly receive federal funding. As Trump's budget director, Mick Mulvaney, told reporters Thursday, "Meals on Wheels is not a federal program."...

    Government grants made up just $248,347 of the funding – or 3.3 percent of total funds.

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/03/17/despite-outrage-over-cuts-federal-funds-are-fraction-meals-on-wheels-budget.html

    According to the FOX News, about 3% of the meal-on-wheel budget came from the government grants.   

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    Quote Originally Posted by wordsmyth:



    Fake news.

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2017/03/18/meal-on-wheels-trump-budget-proposal-cuts/99308928/

    ...The popular program — which mainly uses volunteer drivers to provide hot meals to older Americans across the country — doesn't directly receive federal funding. As Trump's budget director, Mick Mulvaney, told reporters Thursday, "Meals on Wheels is not a federal program."...

    Government grants made up just $248,347 of the funding – or 3.3 percent of total funds.

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/03/17/despite-outrage-over-cuts-federal-funds-are-fraction-meals-on-wheels-budget.html

    According to the FOX News, about 3% of the meal-on-wheel budget came from the government grants.   

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