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    Ever heard of Swine Flu?....

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    smacksmiter
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    Posted: Mar. 13, 2020 - 7:34 PM ET #1

    2009...Swine Flu...remember it?...Here are a few stats for you...

    60 million Americans infected...300,000 hospitalized...17,000 deaths...

    Did any sports shut down?....Nope...were any flights/cruises/business shut down?...Nope...

    Was there any panic?...The media downplayed everything about it...why?...Obamacare was being aggressively promote by the media and anything that made Obama look bad was not being reported...Obamacare was eventually passed and signed into law March of 2010...

    Did then president Obama do anything about it?...The swine flu outbreak started in Mexico in April 2009...it took Obama 6 months to declare a national emergency on 10-25-2009...by that time, the infections were rampant...

    But will you hear anything about this in the media today?...Nope...just like back then...media suppression to make a demoncrat president "good" and a republican president "bad'...The propaganda is never ending...Trump stupid...Trump can't handle it...Trump will kill us...

    This is just like the media using pictures of the illegal immigrant kids in holding cages and saying it was TRUMP who did it when they were actually pictures from the Obama presidency...lol...

    Every day the liberal controlled main media is attempting to brainwash and propagandize the American people...it never stop..

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    2009...Swine Flu...remember it?...Here are a few stats for you...

    60 million Americans infected...300,000 hospitalized...17,000 deaths...

    Did any sports shut down?....Nope...were any flights/cruises/business shut down?...Nope...

    Was there any panic?...The media downplayed everything about it...why?...Obamacare was being aggressively promote by the media and anything that made Obama look bad was not being reported...Obamacare was eventually passed and signed into law March of 2010...

    Did then president Obama do anything about it?...The swine flu outbreak started in Mexico in April 2009...it took Obama 6 months to declare a national emergency on 10-25-2009...by that time, the infections were rampant...

    But will you hear anything about this in the media today?...Nope...just like back then...media suppression to make a demoncrat president "good" and a republican president "bad'...The propaganda is never ending...Trump stupid...Trump can't handle it...Trump will kill us...

    This is just like the media using pictures of the illegal immigrant kids in holding cages and saying it was TRUMP who did it when they were actually pictures from the Obama presidency...lol...

    Every day the liberal controlled main media is attempting to brainwash and propagandize the American people...it never stop..

    an_lightening

     
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    Posted: Mar. 13, 2020 - 7:57 PM ET #2

    Remind us what you said about Kobe after he died

     

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    Remind us what you said about Kobe after he died

     

     
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    Posted: Mar. 13, 2020 - 10:01 PM ET #3

    Thanks for dropping by and reading!...

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    Thanks for dropping by and reading!...

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    Posted: Mar. 13, 2020 - 10:44 PM ET #4

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    Posted: Mar. 13, 2020 - 10:50 PM ET #5

    Btw, this case must be VERY serious since tTrump himself declare a national emergency. I wonder why? Italy has 1200 death and counting. So far we have just opened Pandora’s box and these Trumpet’s are already comparing him to Obahama despite this pandemic not being over. People really need to really STFU and wait for it to be over before comparing apples and oranges

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    Btw, this case must be VERY serious since tTrump himself declare a national emergency. I wonder why? Italy has 1200 death and counting. So far we have just opened Pandora’s box and these Trumpet’s are already comparing him to Obahama despite this pandemic not being over. People really need to really STFU and wait for it to be over before comparing apples and oranges

     
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    Trump, criticized for his slow response to coronavirus pandemic, is trying to shift blame.  He falsely accused Obama's response to swine flu as a disaster.  But experts thought Obama administration did a excellent job with sick numbers lower than forecasted.  69% public approval rating in handling swine flu pandemic according to ABC/Washingtonpost poll.  However 43% approve of Trump's response to coronavirus pandemic according to Quinnipiac poll.  Fact checkers politifact and snopes rated false Trump's claim that Obama waited 6 months to call swine flu an emergency after millions infected and thousands died.  Actually, Obama called a public health emergency with only 20 confirmed cases  in the US.  6 weeks before World health organization declared swine flu a pandemic.  Under Obama, millions of Americans were tested with vaccine developed in 6 months.  Under Trump, US lags behind every developed country in testing and a vaccine isn't expected to be ready until after a year.  Since coronavirus pandemic is still in the early stage, Trump might end up with worser numbers than Obama after first year of pandemic.

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    Trump, criticized for his slow response to coronavirus pandemic, is trying to shift blame.  He falsely accused Obama's response to swine flu as a disaster.  But experts thought Obama administration did a excellent job with sick numbers lower than forecasted.  69% public approval rating in handling swine flu pandemic according to ABC/Washingtonpost poll.  However 43% approve of Trump's response to coronavirus pandemic according to Quinnipiac poll.  Fact checkers politifact and snopes rated false Trump's claim that Obama waited 6 months to call swine flu an emergency after millions infected and thousands died.  Actually, Obama called a public health emergency with only 20 confirmed cases  in the US.  6 weeks before World health organization declared swine flu a pandemic.  Under Obama, millions of Americans were tested with vaccine developed in 6 months.  Under Trump, US lags behind every developed country in testing and a vaccine isn't expected to be ready until after a year.  Since coronavirus pandemic is still in the early stage, Trump might end up with worser numbers than Obama after first year of pandemic.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 14, 2020 - 1:43 AM ET #7

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Trump, criticized for his slow response to coronavirus pandemic, is trying to shift blame.  He falsely accused Obama's response to swine flu as a disaster.  But experts thought Obama administration did a excellent job with sick numbers lower than forecasted.  69% public approval rating in handling swine flu pandemic according to ABC/Washingtonpost poll.  However 43% approve of Trump's response to coronavirus pandemic according to Quinnipiac poll.  Fact checkers politifact and snopes rated false Trump's claim that Obama waited 6 months to call swine flu an emergency after millions infected and thousands died.  Actually, Obama called a public health emergency with only 20 confirmed cases  in the US.  6 weeks before World health organization declared swine flu a pandemic.  Under Obama, millions of Americans were tested with vaccine developed in 6 months.  Under Trump, US lags behind every developed country in testing and a vaccine isn't expected to be ready until after a year.  Since coronavirus pandemic is still in the early stage, Trump might end up with worser numbers than Obama after first year of pandemic.

     

    Fascinating effort at re writing history and following the media propaganda script...I quote you absolute facts on what Obuma did and you quote the very mainstream media polls and EXPERTS who were responsible for tamping down the panic...the fact that Obama waited 6 months to call for a national emergency is on Wikileaks for god's sake..!... a liberal site!...And, stack on top of that the fact that I ACTUALLY LIVED THROUGH IT AND REMEMBER IT MYSELF..

    So I don't need you quoting the media...LOL...like is actually BOLSTERS your position..it actually WEAKENS your position...they were the ones charged with protecting the demoncrats and keeping everything quiet...

    The absolute FACTS that I list show clearly that his "response" was a disaster...when the smoke clears on this latest virus...we shall see if 60 million are infected...300,000 hospitalize and 17,000 dead...The libs and democrats have created panic and hype in yet another attempt to hurt Trump politically...

    But I know I won't hear a peep out of you WHEN Trump's numbers are HUGELY less than Obummers...AND he wins re election ....damn...that is gonna hurt some people like you...

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Trump, criticized for his slow response to coronavirus pandemic, is trying to shift blame.  He falsely accused Obama's response to swine flu as a disaster.  But experts thought Obama administration did a excellent job with sick numbers lower than forecasted.  69% public approval rating in handling swine flu pandemic according to ABC/Washingtonpost poll.  However 43% approve of Trump's response to coronavirus pandemic according to Quinnipiac poll.  Fact checkers politifact and snopes rated false Trump's claim that Obama waited 6 months to call swine flu an emergency after millions infected and thousands died.  Actually, Obama called a public health emergency with only 20 confirmed cases  in the US.  6 weeks before World health organization declared swine flu a pandemic.  Under Obama, millions of Americans were tested with vaccine developed in 6 months.  Under Trump, US lags behind every developed country in testing and a vaccine isn't expected to be ready until after a year.  Since coronavirus pandemic is still in the early stage, Trump might end up with worser numbers than Obama after first year of pandemic.

     

    Fascinating effort at re writing history and following the media propaganda script...I quote you absolute facts on what Obuma did and you quote the very mainstream media polls and EXPERTS who were responsible for tamping down the panic...the fact that Obama waited 6 months to call for a national emergency is on Wikileaks for god's sake..!... a liberal site!...And, stack on top of that the fact that I ACTUALLY LIVED THROUGH IT AND REMEMBER IT MYSELF..

    So I don't need you quoting the media...LOL...like is actually BOLSTERS your position..it actually WEAKENS your position...they were the ones charged with protecting the demoncrats and keeping everything quiet...

    The absolute FACTS that I list show clearly that his "response" was a disaster...when the smoke clears on this latest virus...we shall see if 60 million are infected...300,000 hospitalize and 17,000 dead...The libs and democrats have created panic and hype in yet another attempt to hurt Trump politically...

    But I know I won't hear a peep out of you WHEN Trump's numbers are HUGELY less than Obummers...AND he wins re election ....damn...that is gonna hurt some people like you...

    an_violin

     
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    Posted: Mar. 17, 2020 - 2:53 PM ET #8

    60 million got it, 17,000 deaths? So by my calculation (I know you don't do math) a death rate of 0.0002833333 or .0028 %. Look up the mortality rate for Corona virus.

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    60 million got it, 17,000 deaths? So by my calculation (I know you don't do math) a death rate of 0.0002833333 or .0028 %. Look up the mortality rate for Corona virus.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 17, 2020 - 2:59 PM ET #9

    My last check was about 4% and climbing. Based on your numbers, your swine flu of 2009 would've had to kill 2.4 million people to match that. And corona virus looks to be, atleast as contagious, as H1N1 or any of the various flu strains, if not more so. And this point, I think your whole shtick is one big troll. As if you try day in and day out to sound stupid.

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    My last check was about 4% and climbing. Based on your numbers, your swine flu of 2009 would've had to kill 2.4 million people to match that. And corona virus looks to be, atleast as contagious, as H1N1 or any of the various flu strains, if not more so. And this point, I think your whole shtick is one big troll. As if you try day in and day out to sound stupid.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 17, 2020 - 4:21 PM ET #10

    He lives in a world of "alternative facts."

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    He lives in a world of "alternative facts."

     
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    Posted: Mar. 17, 2020 - 4:38 PM ET #11

    People will always skew a global crisis to match their world view, all that matters is that this affects everybody.

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    People will always skew a global crisis to match their world view, all that matters is that this affects everybody.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    60 million got it, 17,000 deaths? So by my calculation (I know you don't do math) a death rate of 0.0002833333 or .0028 %. Look up the mortality rate for Corona virus.

    If you are old, it seems you're pretty much toast it seems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    60 million got it, 17,000 deaths? So by my calculation (I know you don't do math) a death rate of 0.0002833333 or .0028 %. Look up the mortality rate for Corona virus.

    If you are old, it seems you're pretty much toast it seems.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by kagakuotoko:

    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: 60 million got it, 17,000 deaths? So by my calculation (I know you don't do math) a death rate of 0.0002833333 or .0028 %. Look up the mortality rate for Corona virus. If you are old, it seems you're pretty much toast it seems.

    Yeah, this shit's bad. I'm evening hunkering down because they're saying people like me can be asymptomatic carriers and just be angels of death for old people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kagakuotoko:

    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: 60 million got it, 17,000 deaths? So by my calculation (I know you don't do math) a death rate of 0.0002833333 or .0028 %. Look up the mortality rate for Corona virus. If you are old, it seems you're pretty much toast it seems.

    Yeah, this shit's bad. I'm evening hunkering down because they're saying people like me can be asymptomatic carriers and just be angels of death for old people.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 20, 2020 - 8:56 PM ET #14

    It's an epidemic that the whole WORLD is facing.

    Isn't it pretty selfish to make this an "American" agenda?

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    It's an epidemic that the whole WORLD is facing.

    Isn't it pretty selfish to make this an "American" agenda?

     
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    Smack, take some time and listen to smart people talk about this virus. Scientists and Doctors who are knowledgeable. It's a huge problem.

    To simply compare it to a virus of the past, and think that the results will be the same or lesser than is completely ignorant.

    It's contagion is HIGH, and the mortality rate is higher than any flu. We all need to proceed with caution.

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    Smack, take some time and listen to smart people talk about this virus. Scientists and Doctors who are knowledgeable. It's a huge problem.

    To simply compare it to a virus of the past, and think that the results will be the same or lesser than is completely ignorant.

    It's contagion is HIGH, and the mortality rate is higher than any flu. We all need to proceed with caution.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 24, 2020 - 3:38 AM ET #16

    Trump says “we can not let the cure be worse than the problem” 

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    Trump says “we can not let the cure be worse than the problem” 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas502:

    Trump says “we can not let the cure be worse than the problem”

     

    Agree with him 100%

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas502:

    Trump says “we can not let the cure be worse than the problem”

     

    Agree with him 100%

     
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    What does that even mean?

    He needs to take a seat and follow the advice of the medical experts for once.

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    What does that even mean?

    He needs to take a seat and follow the advice of the medical experts for once.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 24, 2020 - 5:09 PM ET #19

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    What does that even mean? He needs to take a seat and follow the advice of the medical experts for once.

    If he was not giving press conferences and trying to calm folks and explain what they are doing — you would be saying that he was nowhere to be found.  You know this is true. 

    He has many experts at the talks and turns the questions over to them — at a time like this he is listening and following the experts advice.  Maybe, you could argue they are not ‘your’ experts — but nonetheless, they are front and center.

    When you are CEO and a company is in crisis you have to be front and center — you can’t run and hide.  Trump, running businesses, knows this.   Any CEO/President does this — even Obama did it. 

    There has to be a measure of information and assuaging along with calculated action.  They seemed to be correcting and learning from the past times the country has faced this sort of thing.

    So, what exactly do you think he should be doing?  

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    What does that even mean? He needs to take a seat and follow the advice of the medical experts for once.

    If he was not giving press conferences and trying to calm folks and explain what they are doing — you would be saying that he was nowhere to be found.  You know this is true. 

    He has many experts at the talks and turns the questions over to them — at a time like this he is listening and following the experts advice.  Maybe, you could argue they are not ‘your’ experts — but nonetheless, they are front and center.

    When you are CEO and a company is in crisis you have to be front and center — you can’t run and hide.  Trump, running businesses, knows this.   Any CEO/President does this — even Obama did it. 

    There has to be a measure of information and assuaging along with calculated action.  They seemed to be correcting and learning from the past times the country has faced this sort of thing.

    So, what exactly do you think he should be doing?  

     
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    Posted: Mar. 24, 2020 - 7:16 PM ET #20

    He should sit in his office working with Congress to pass this bill and not parading his ass out to speak about something he knows nothing about.

    Please don't talk about him in a CEO role. Bankrupt how many times?. Have you seen how much debt he has added to the future of our children?

    He's a failure as a businessman & as a president.

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    He should sit in his office working with Congress to pass this bill and not parading his ass out to speak about something he knows nothing about.

    Please don't talk about him in a CEO role. Bankrupt how many times?. Have you seen how much debt he has added to the future of our children?

    He's a failure as a businessman & as a president.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 24, 2020 - 10:34 PM ET #21

    Trump is a stud president. I'll follow that man into a hail of bullets. 

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    Trump is a stud president. I'll follow that man into a hail of bullets. 

     
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    Posted: Mar. 24, 2020 - 10:44 PM ET #22

    Trump is a f’n clueless moron

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    Trump is a f’n clueless moron

     
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    Posted: Mar. 24, 2020 - 10:46 PM ET #23

    Yeah and he'll be right behind you..

    He had his chance but chose 5 military deferments.

    The only place he'll lead you to is the poorhouse.

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    Yeah and he'll be right behind you..

    He had his chance but chose 5 military deferments.

    The only place he'll lead you to is the poorhouse.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 24, 2020 - 10:50 PM ET #24

    I'm already poor so it's not possible for me to be anymore fucked at this point. new_poop

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    I'm already poor so it's not possible for me to be anymore fucked at this point. new_poop

     
     
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    Posted: Mar. 24, 2020 - 10:58 PM ET #25

    Tucker Carlson is an incredible mind but night after night he can be intensely morbid about about the situation so I fired him. 

    Trump using suicide as a barometer vs this virus in putting America back to work was highly inappropriate. I mean HIGHLY. I think even fellow republicans would agree with that but sometimes it's best to resist the urge to speak so truthfully to the American people. 

    If you Dems want to go after something it is most definitely that. Details....

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    Tucker Carlson is an incredible mind but night after night he can be intensely morbid about about the situation so I fired him. 

    Trump using suicide as a barometer vs this virus in putting America back to work was highly inappropriate. I mean HIGHLY. I think even fellow republicans would agree with that but sometimes it's best to resist the urge to speak so truthfully to the American people. 

    If you Dems want to go after something it is most definitely that. Details....

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