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    Do the people forget that Bill Clinton was Impeached?

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    ilsp2003
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    Posted: Jul. 9, 2016 - 9:01 PM ET #51

    When did Byrne dispose of lipstick and semen-stained towels from the president extra-marital trysts ?

    No mention of Gary Byrne in Ken Star report 

    From independent counsel Kenneth Starr's report to the House on President Clinton. Some of the language in these documents is sexually explicit.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/clinton/icreport/6narritiii.htm

    A. January 7 Sexual Encounter

     [W]e made an arrangement that . . . he would have the door to his office open, and I would pass by the office with some papers and then . . . he would sort of stop me and invite me in. So, that was exactly what happened. I passed by and that was actually when I saw [Secret Service Uniformed Officer] Lew Fox who was on duty outside the Oval Office, and stopped and spoke with Lew for a few minutes, and then the President came out and said, oh, hey, Monica . . . come on in . . . . And so we spoke for about 10 minutes in the [Oval] office. We sat on the sofas. Then we went into the back study and we were intimate in the bathroom.(205) 

    On Sunday, January 21, 1996, according to Ms. Lewinsky, she and the President had another sexual encounter. Her time of White House entry is not reflected in records. She left at 3:56 p.m.(218) The President moved from the Residence to the Oval Office at 3:33 p.m. and remained there until 7:40 p.m.(219)

    On that day, according to Ms. Lewinsky, she saw the President in a hallway by an elevator, and he invited her to the Oval Office.(220)


    C. February 4 Sexual Encounter and Subsequent Phone Calls

    On Sunday, February 4, according to Ms. Lewinsky, she and the President had their sixth sexual encounter and their first lengthy and personal conversation. The President was in the Oval Office from 3:36 to 7:05 p.m.(231) He had no telephone calls in the Oval Office before 4:45 p.m.(232) Records do not show Ms. Lewinsky's entry or exit.

    D. President's Day (February 19) Break-up

    According to Ms. Lewinsky, the President terminated their relationship (only temporarily, as it happened), on Monday, February 19, 1996 -- President's Day. The President was in the Oval Office from 11 a.m. to 2:01 p.m. that day.(241) He had no telephone calls between 12:19 and 12:42 p.m.(242) Records do not reflect Ms. Lewinsky's presence at the White House.

    In Ms. Lewinsky's recollection, the President telephoned her at her Watergate apartment that day. From the tone of his voice, she could tell something was wrong. She asked to come see him, but he said he did not know how long he would be there.(243) Ms. Lewinsky went to the White House, then walked to the Oval Office sometime between noon and 2 p.m. (the only time she ever went to the Oval Office uninvited).(244) Ms. Lewinsky recalled that she was admitted by a tall, slender, Hispanic plainclothes agent on duty near the door.(24
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    When did Byrne dispose of lipstick and semen-stained towels from the president extra-marital trysts ?

    No mention of Gary Byrne in Ken Star report 

    From independent counsel Kenneth Starr's report to the House on President Clinton. Some of the language in these documents is sexually explicit.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/clinton/icreport/6narritiii.htm

    A. January 7 Sexual Encounter

     [W]e made an arrangement that . . . he would have the door to his office open, and I would pass by the office with some papers and then . . . he would sort of stop me and invite me in. So, that was exactly what happened. I passed by and that was actually when I saw [Secret Service Uniformed Officer] Lew Fox who was on duty outside the Oval Office, and stopped and spoke with Lew for a few minutes, and then the President came out and said, oh, hey, Monica . . . come on in . . . . And so we spoke for about 10 minutes in the [Oval] office. We sat on the sofas. Then we went into the back study and we were intimate in the bathroom.(205) 

    On Sunday, January 21, 1996, according to Ms. Lewinsky, she and the President had another sexual encounter. Her time of White House entry is not reflected in records. She left at 3:56 p.m.(218) The President moved from the Residence to the Oval Office at 3:33 p.m. and remained there until 7:40 p.m.(219)

    On that day, according to Ms. Lewinsky, she saw the President in a hallway by an elevator, and he invited her to the Oval Office.(220)


    C. February 4 Sexual Encounter and Subsequent Phone Calls

    On Sunday, February 4, according to Ms. Lewinsky, she and the President had their sixth sexual encounter and their first lengthy and personal conversation. The President was in the Oval Office from 3:36 to 7:05 p.m.(231) He had no telephone calls in the Oval Office before 4:45 p.m.(232) Records do not show Ms. Lewinsky's entry or exit.

    D. President's Day (February 19) Break-up

    According to Ms. Lewinsky, the President terminated their relationship (only temporarily, as it happened), on Monday, February 19, 1996 -- President's Day. The President was in the Oval Office from 11 a.m. to 2:01 p.m. that day.(241) He had no telephone calls between 12:19 and 12:42 p.m.(242) Records do not reflect Ms. Lewinsky's presence at the White House.

    In Ms. Lewinsky's recollection, the President telephoned her at her Watergate apartment that day. From the tone of his voice, she could tell something was wrong. She asked to come see him, but he said he did not know how long he would be there.(243) Ms. Lewinsky went to the White House, then walked to the Oval Office sometime between noon and 2 p.m. (the only time she ever went to the Oval Office uninvited).(244) Ms. Lewinsky recalled that she was admitted by a tall, slender, Hispanic plainclothes agent on duty near the door.(24
     
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    Posted: Jul. 9, 2016 - 9:12 PM ET #52

    Quote Originally Posted by ilsp2003:

    Gary Byrne
    Uniformed officer
    West Wing outside the oval office




    with a lead pipe

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    Quote Originally Posted by ilsp2003:

    Gary Byrne
    Uniformed officer
    West Wing outside the oval office




    with a lead pipe

     
    bowlslit
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    Posted: Jul. 9, 2016 - 10:05 PM ET #53

    Quote Originally Posted by ilsp2003:

    When did Byrne dispose of lipstick and semen-stained towels from the president extra-marital trysts ?

    No mention of Gary Byrne in Ken Star report 

    From independent counsel Kenneth Starr's report to the House on President Clinton. Some of the language in these documents is sexually explicit.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/clinton/icreport/6narritiii.htm

    A. January 7 Sexual Encounter

     [W]e made an arrangement that . . . he would have the door to his office open, and I would pass by the office with some papers and then . . . he would sort of stop me and invite me in. So, that was exactly what happened. I passed by and that was actually when I saw [Secret Service Uniformed Officer] Lew Fox who was on duty outside the Oval Office, and stopped and spoke with Lew for a few minutes, and then the President came out and said, oh, hey, Monica . . . come on in . . . . And so we spoke for about 10 minutes in the [Oval] office. We sat on the sofas. Then we went into the back study and we were intimate in the bathroom.(205) 

    On Sunday, January 21, 1996, according to Ms. Lewinsky, she and the President had another sexual encounter. Her time of White House entry is not reflected in records. She left at 3:56 p.m.(218) The President moved from the Residence to the Oval Office at 3:33 p.m. and remained there until 7:40 p.m.(219)

    On that day, according to Ms. Lewinsky, she saw the President in a hallway by an elevator, and he invited her to the Oval Office.(220)


    C. February 4 Sexual Encounter and Subsequent Phone Calls

    On Sunday, February 4, according to Ms. Lewinsky, she and the President had their sixth sexual encounter and their first lengthy and personal conversation. The President was in the Oval Office from 3:36 to 7:05 p.m.(231) He had no telephone calls in the Oval Office before 4:45 p.m.(232) Records do not show Ms. Lewinsky's entry or exit.

    D. President's Day (February 19) Break-up

    According to Ms. Lewinsky, the President terminated their relationship (only temporarily, as it happened), on Monday, February 19, 1996 -- President's Day. The President was in the Oval Office from 11 a.m. to 2:01 p.m. that day.(241) He had no telephone calls between 12:19 and 12:42 p.m.(242) Records do not reflect Ms. Lewinsky's presence at the White House.

    In Ms. Lewinsky's recollection, the President telephoned her at her Watergate apartment that day. From the tone of his voice, she could tell something was wrong. She asked to come see him, but he said he did not know how long he would be there.(243) Ms. Lewinsky went to the White House, then walked to the Oval Office sometime between noon and 2 p.m. (the only time she ever went to the Oval Office uninvited).(244) Ms. Lewinsky recalled that she was admitted by a tall, slender, Hispanic plainclothes agent on duty near the door.(24

    Look dom asz, I've already provided much more evidence that he was postec up close enough to witness things he's claimed. 

    Until you can prove that he was lying under oath in a very highly publicized case 6 times then accept the fact that you were/are wrong and move on to your next argument.

    You lost this whole thing from the moment I posted the deposition. Very badly!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ilsp2003:

    When did Byrne dispose of lipstick and semen-stained towels from the president extra-marital trysts ?

    No mention of Gary Byrne in Ken Star report 

    From independent counsel Kenneth Starr's report to the House on President Clinton. Some of the language in these documents is sexually explicit.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/clinton/icreport/6narritiii.htm

    A. January 7 Sexual Encounter

     [W]e made an arrangement that . . . he would have the door to his office open, and I would pass by the office with some papers and then . . . he would sort of stop me and invite me in. So, that was exactly what happened. I passed by and that was actually when I saw [Secret Service Uniformed Officer] Lew Fox who was on duty outside the Oval Office, and stopped and spoke with Lew for a few minutes, and then the President came out and said, oh, hey, Monica . . . come on in . . . . And so we spoke for about 10 minutes in the [Oval] office. We sat on the sofas. Then we went into the back study and we were intimate in the bathroom.(205) 

    On Sunday, January 21, 1996, according to Ms. Lewinsky, she and the President had another sexual encounter. Her time of White House entry is not reflected in records. She left at 3:56 p.m.(218) The President moved from the Residence to the Oval Office at 3:33 p.m. and remained there until 7:40 p.m.(219)

    On that day, according to Ms. Lewinsky, she saw the President in a hallway by an elevator, and he invited her to the Oval Office.(220)


    C. February 4 Sexual Encounter and Subsequent Phone Calls

    On Sunday, February 4, according to Ms. Lewinsky, she and the President had their sixth sexual encounter and their first lengthy and personal conversation. The President was in the Oval Office from 3:36 to 7:05 p.m.(231) He had no telephone calls in the Oval Office before 4:45 p.m.(232) Records do not show Ms. Lewinsky's entry or exit.

    D. President's Day (February 19) Break-up

    According to Ms. Lewinsky, the President terminated their relationship (only temporarily, as it happened), on Monday, February 19, 1996 -- President's Day. The President was in the Oval Office from 11 a.m. to 2:01 p.m. that day.(241) He had no telephone calls between 12:19 and 12:42 p.m.(242) Records do not reflect Ms. Lewinsky's presence at the White House.

    In Ms. Lewinsky's recollection, the President telephoned her at her Watergate apartment that day. From the tone of his voice, she could tell something was wrong. She asked to come see him, but he said he did not know how long he would be there.(243) Ms. Lewinsky went to the White House, then walked to the Oval Office sometime between noon and 2 p.m. (the only time she ever went to the Oval Office uninvited).(244) Ms. Lewinsky recalled that she was admitted by a tall, slender, Hispanic plainclothes agent on duty near the door.(24

    Look dom asz, I've already provided much more evidence that he was postec up close enough to witness things he's claimed. 

    Until you can prove that he was lying under oath in a very highly publicized case 6 times then accept the fact that you were/are wrong and move on to your next argument.

    You lost this whole thing from the moment I posted the deposition. Very badly!
     
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    Posted: Jul. 9, 2016 - 11:31 PM ET #54

    Quote Originally Posted by bowlslit:


    Look dom asz, I've already provided much more evidence that he was postec up close enough to witness things he's claimed. 

    Until you can prove that he was lying under oath in a very highly publicized case 6 times then accept the fact that you were/are wrong and move on to your next argument.

    You lost this whole thing from the moment I posted the deposition. Very badly!

    You did not prove s*h*i*t 
    what exactly did you win ?
    who are you calling name ?

    Dude calm down and don't forget to take your GD medication

    grandiose-type symptoms include grossly exaggerated beliefs of:

    • self-worth
    • power
    • knowledge
    • identity
    • exceptional relationship to a divinity or famous person.
    Reply
    Quote Originally Posted by bowlslit:


    Look dom asz, I've already provided much more evidence that he was postec up close enough to witness things he's claimed. 

    Until you can prove that he was lying under oath in a very highly publicized case 6 times then accept the fact that you were/are wrong and move on to your next argument.

    You lost this whole thing from the moment I posted the deposition. Very badly!

    You did not prove s*h*i*t 
    what exactly did you win ?
    who are you calling name ?

    Dude calm down and don't forget to take your GD medication

    grandiose-type symptoms include grossly exaggerated beliefs of:

    • self-worth
    • power
    • knowledge
    • identity
    • exceptional relationship to a divinity or famous person.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 10, 2016 - 12:41 AM ET #55

    Quote Originally Posted by ilsp2003:


    You did not prove s*h*i*t 
    what exactly did you win ?
    who are you calling name ?

    Dude calm down and don't forget to take your GD medication

    grandiose-type symptoms include grossly exaggerated beliefs of:

    • self-worth
    • power
    • knowledge
    • identity
    • exceptional relationship to a divinity or famous person.

    It seems grandiose to you because you often find yourself on the wrong end of an argument...your a liberal, you should be used to it by now.

    The only way I haven't proved my point is if you've ignored everything ive posted lately. And if you by chance, didn't ignore the pure gold that I've posted in the walk off home run post then you're just stupid and beyond hope.

    I will send Hillary a letter on your behalf and let her know that you may be her most die hard fan...sticking with her far past the point that it made no sense is probably one of her most cherished qualities she seeks in supporters....I'll let you know...
    Reply
    Quote Originally Posted by ilsp2003:


    You did not prove s*h*i*t 
    what exactly did you win ?
    who are you calling name ?

    Dude calm down and don't forget to take your GD medication

    grandiose-type symptoms include grossly exaggerated beliefs of:

    • self-worth
    • power
    • knowledge
    • identity
    • exceptional relationship to a divinity or famous person.

    It seems grandiose to you because you often find yourself on the wrong end of an argument...your a liberal, you should be used to it by now.

    The only way I haven't proved my point is if you've ignored everything ive posted lately. And if you by chance, didn't ignore the pure gold that I've posted in the walk off home run post then you're just stupid and beyond hope.

    I will send Hillary a letter on your behalf and let her know that you may be her most die hard fan...sticking with her far past the point that it made no sense is probably one of her most cherished qualities she seeks in supporters....I'll let you know...
     
    ilsp2003
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    Posted: Jul. 10, 2016 - 6:02 PM ET #56

    Quote Originally Posted by bowlslit:


    It seems grandiose to you because you often find yourself on the wrong end of an argument...your a liberal, you should be used to it by now.

    The only way I haven't proved my point is if you've ignored everything ive posted lately. And if you by chance, didn't ignore the pure gold that I've posted in the walk off home run post then you're just stupid and beyond hope.

    I will send Hillary a letter on your behalf and let her know that you may be her most die hard fan...sticking with her far past the point that it made no sense is probably one of her most cherished qualities she seeks in supporters....I'll let you know...

    You are still running your mouth

    what exactly did you win ?
    You decided to believe Gary Byrne story and suddenly you won 

    You don't need to let me know anything 

    You are not important to me 


    Reply
    Quote Originally Posted by bowlslit:


    It seems grandiose to you because you often find yourself on the wrong end of an argument...your a liberal, you should be used to it by now.

    The only way I haven't proved my point is if you've ignored everything ive posted lately. And if you by chance, didn't ignore the pure gold that I've posted in the walk off home run post then you're just stupid and beyond hope.

    I will send Hillary a letter on your behalf and let her know that you may be her most die hard fan...sticking with her far past the point that it made no sense is probably one of her most cherished qualities she seeks in supporters....I'll let you know...

    You are still running your mouth

    what exactly did you win ?
    You decided to believe Gary Byrne story and suddenly you won 

    You don't need to let me know anything 

    You are not important to me 


     
    bowlslit
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    Posted: Jul. 10, 2016 - 6:19 PM ET #57

    Quote Originally Posted by ilsp2003:


    You are still running your mouth

    what exactly did you win ?
    You decided to believe Gary Byrne story and suddenly you won 

    You don't need to let me know anything 

    You are not important to me 



    S hole, you should know by now, if there is any hint of me being wrong about something djbrow is all over my shlt. If 5 minutes goes by since my post and djbrow has not made an attempt to correct me then you can safely assume that WHATEVER I said is true.

    I never said anything about being important to anyone but I am very obviously much smarter than you!

    If Byrne wasn't posted up outside the Oval Office then how come they felt the need to question him 10 times about Monica Lewinsky?

    ...And then how come he's not in jail for perjury because he repeatedly told them he was posted up outside the Oval Office multiple times?

    Why is it that you keep arguing a losing point?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ilsp2003:


    You are still running your mouth

    what exactly did you win ?
    You decided to believe Gary Byrne story and suddenly you won 

    You don't need to let me know anything 

    You are not important to me 



    S hole, you should know by now, if there is any hint of me being wrong about something djbrow is all over my shlt. If 5 minutes goes by since my post and djbrow has not made an attempt to correct me then you can safely assume that WHATEVER I said is true.

    I never said anything about being important to anyone but I am very obviously much smarter than you!

    If Byrne wasn't posted up outside the Oval Office then how come they felt the need to question him 10 times about Monica Lewinsky?

    ...And then how come he's not in jail for perjury because he repeatedly told them he was posted up outside the Oval Office multiple times?

    Why is it that you keep arguing a losing point?
     
     
    djbrow
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    Posted: Jul. 10, 2016 - 7:29 PM ET #58

    Funny. 

    I don't think anyone knows for sure what is true. It is absolutely true that Bill Clinton had a head bandage right after the affair broke. Most people believe that the stories about HRC hitting him in the head are true so I do think anything is possible with her. 

    But again, I don't think anyone *knows* for sure. 


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    Funny. 

    I don't think anyone knows for sure what is true. It is absolutely true that Bill Clinton had a head bandage right after the affair broke. Most people believe that the stories about HRC hitting him in the head are true so I do think anything is possible with her. 

    But again, I don't think anyone *knows* for sure. 


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