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    Posted: Oct. 15, 2022 - 7:01 PM ET #326

    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    Between 1692 and 1693, a surplus of more than 200 people stood accused of witchcraft. Nineteen of the accused would experience horrifying deaths by hanging. One unfortunate fellow by the name of Giles Corey was crushed to death in a slow and painful public spectacle (via All That's Interesting). Interestingly enough, anyone who spoke out against the trials would inevitably wind up on the list of accused, causing some concerned citizens to simmer in silence. Read More: https://www.grunge.com/489561/terrifying-historical-examples-of-mass-psychosis/?utm_campaign=clip When a woman by the name of Frau Troffea twirled along the streets of Strasbourg in mid-summer of 1518, it was quite the show. History reports that she embarked on a week-long "solo danceathon" with no music to accompany her smooth moves. Naturally, her neighbors hailing from the Ancient Roman Empire had no choice but to ... join her? What followed was a 400 person dance off. you or anyone you know is having suicidal thoughts, please call the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline? at? 1-800-273-TALK (8255)?.

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    Between 1692 and 1693, a surplus of more than 200 people stood accused of witchcraft. Nineteen of the accused would experience horrifying deaths by hanging. One unfortunate fellow by the name of Giles Corey was crushed to death in a slow and painful public spectacle (via All That's Interesting). Interestingly enough, anyone who spoke out against the trials would inevitably wind up on the list of accused, causing some concerned citizens to simmer in silence. Read More: https://www.grunge.com/489561/terrifying-historical-examples-of-mass-psychosis/?utm_campaign=clip When a woman by the name of Frau Troffea twirled along the streets of Strasbourg in mid-summer of 1518, it was quite the show. History reports that she embarked on a week-long "solo danceathon" with no music to accompany her smooth moves. Naturally, her neighbors hailing from the Ancient Roman Empire had no choice but to ... join her? What followed was a 400 person dance off. you or anyone you know is having suicidal thoughts, please call the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline? at? 1-800-273-TALK (8255)?.

     

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    Posted: Oct. 15, 2022 - 7:01 PM ET #327

    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    Between 1692 and 1693, a surplus of more than 200 people stood accused of witchcraft. Nineteen of the accused would experience horrifying deaths by hanging. One unfortunate fellow by the name of Giles Corey was crushed to death in a slow and painful public spectacle (via All That's Interesting). Interestingly enough, anyone who spoke out against the trials would inevitably wind up on the list of accused, causing some concerned citizens to simmer in silence. Read More: https://www.grunge.com/489561/terrifying-historical-examples-of-mass-psychosis/?utm_campaign=clip When a woman by the name of Frau Troffea twirled along the streets of Strasbourg in mid-summer of 1518, it was quite the show. History reports that she embarked on a week-long "solo danceathon" with no music to accompany her smooth moves. Naturally, her neighbors hailing from the Ancient Roman Empire had no choice but to ... join her? What followed was a 400 person dance off. you or anyone you know is having suicidal thoughts, please call the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline? at? 1-800-273-TALK (8255)?.

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    Between 1692 and 1693, a surplus of more than 200 people stood accused of witchcraft. Nineteen of the accused would experience horrifying deaths by hanging. One unfortunate fellow by the name of Giles Corey was crushed to death in a slow and painful public spectacle (via All That's Interesting). Interestingly enough, anyone who spoke out against the trials would inevitably wind up on the list of accused, causing some concerned citizens to simmer in silence. Read More: https://www.grunge.com/489561/terrifying-historical-examples-of-mass-psychosis/?utm_campaign=clip When a woman by the name of Frau Troffea twirled along the streets of Strasbourg in mid-summer of 1518, it was quite the show. History reports that she embarked on a week-long "solo danceathon" with no music to accompany her smooth moves. Naturally, her neighbors hailing from the Ancient Roman Empire had no choice but to ... join her? What followed was a 400 person dance off. you or anyone you know is having suicidal thoughts, please call the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline? at? 1-800-273-TALK (8255)?.

     

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    Posted: Oct. 15, 2022 - 7:01 PM ET #328

    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    Between 1692 and 1693, a surplus of more than 200 people stood accused of witchcraft. Nineteen of the accused would experience horrifying deaths by hanging. One unfortunate fellow by the name of Giles Corey was crushed to death in a slow and painful public spectacle (via All That's Interesting). Interestingly enough, anyone who spoke out against the trials would inevitably wind up on the list of accused, causing some concerned citizens to simmer in silence. Read More: https://www.grunge.com/489561/terrifying-historical-examples-of-mass-psychosis/?utm_campaign=clip When a woman by the name of Frau Troffea twirled along the streets of Strasbourg in mid-summer of 1518, it was quite the show. History reports that she embarked on a week-long "solo danceathon" with no music to accompany her smooth moves. Naturally, her neighbors hailing from the Ancient Roman Empire had no choice but to ... join her? What followed was a 400 person dance off. you or anyone you know is having suicidal thoughts, please call the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline? at? 1-800-273-TALK (8255)?.

     

    peace_5

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    Between 1692 and 1693, a surplus of more than 200 people stood accused of witchcraft. Nineteen of the accused would experience horrifying deaths by hanging. One unfortunate fellow by the name of Giles Corey was crushed to death in a slow and painful public spectacle (via All That's Interesting). Interestingly enough, anyone who spoke out against the trials would inevitably wind up on the list of accused, causing some concerned citizens to simmer in silence. Read More: https://www.grunge.com/489561/terrifying-historical-examples-of-mass-psychosis/?utm_campaign=clip When a woman by the name of Frau Troffea twirled along the streets of Strasbourg in mid-summer of 1518, it was quite the show. History reports that she embarked on a week-long "solo danceathon" with no music to accompany her smooth moves. Naturally, her neighbors hailing from the Ancient Roman Empire had no choice but to ... join her? What followed was a 400 person dance off. you or anyone you know is having suicidal thoughts, please call the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline? at? 1-800-273-TALK (8255)?.

     

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    Posted: Oct. 18, 2022 - 4:57 PM ET #329

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    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Florida lawmaker sues to block sending migrants to other states.  He alleges DeSantis broke the law which prohibits using taxpayers money on unauthorized aliens outside of Florida.  Also refugees are legally allowed in the US for due process until their court hearing. In my opinion, Ron DeSantis will be much worse than Donald J Trump as POTUS.

     

    whoa nellie.... you sure you mean, Florida Governor Desantis and former US President Donald Trump right??  

    I'd love to see a breakdown on how Ronnie D will be worse than Donne T..... please, do share.  

    "worse" as in, DeSantis will sweep the floor with any Presidential candidate the libtocracy puts out there?  Yes, that is 100% correct.  Gavin Newsome bwahahahaha an_roll_laugh

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    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Florida lawmaker sues to block sending migrants to other states.  He alleges DeSantis broke the law which prohibits using taxpayers money on unauthorized aliens outside of Florida.  Also refugees are legally allowed in the US for due process until their court hearing. In my opinion, Ron DeSantis will be much worse than Donald J Trump as POTUS.

     

    whoa nellie.... you sure you mean, Florida Governor Desantis and former US President Donald Trump right??  

    I'd love to see a breakdown on how Ronnie D will be worse than Donne T..... please, do share.  

    "worse" as in, DeSantis will sweep the floor with any Presidential candidate the libtocracy puts out there?  Yes, that is 100% correct.  Gavin Newsome bwahahahaha an_roll_laugh

     
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    Posted: Oct. 18, 2022 - 9:07 PM ET #330

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     DeSantis is weak. He didn't have the balls to send Cuban immigrants to Martha's Vineyard because of the Cuban political power in Florida.

    Instead he had to get immigrants in Texas to pull off his political stunt.

    The entire country got to see what an a-hole he is. 

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     DeSantis is weak. He didn't have the balls to send Cuban immigrants to Martha's Vineyard because of the Cuban political power in Florida.

    Instead he had to get immigrants in Texas to pull off his political stunt.

    The entire country got to see what an a-hole he is. 

     
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    Posted: Oct. 18, 2022 - 11:31 PM ET #331

    What difference does it make which illegal arrives in Martha's Vineyard??an_roll_laugh Ya see folks, there's the true racist in every left wing bucket of liberal. 

    Cubans are not fleeing communism for communism ya clown. They are being turned away because there's no chance of a vote for the Socialist/communist party. What a clown. 

     

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    What difference does it make which illegal arrives in Martha's Vineyard??an_roll_laugh Ya see folks, there's the true racist in every left wing bucket of liberal. 

    Cubans are not fleeing communism for communism ya clown. They are being turned away because there's no chance of a vote for the Socialist/communist party. What a clown. 

     

     
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    Posted: Oct. 19, 2022 - 11:29 AM ET #332

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

      DeSantis is weak. He didn't have the balls to send Cuban immigrants to Martha's Vineyard because of the Cuban political power in Florida. Instead he had to get immigrants in Texas to pull off his political stunt. .

    There are unintentional consequences from false promises of benefits to persuade migrants to travel to other states. First, more border crossings may be encouraged by publicity about benefits awaiting migrants according to Commissioner of US border protection. Secondly, Texas sheriff has certified migrants as victims of crime which allows for special visas to remain longer in the US.  Third, government investigations to determine violations of laws.  Fourth, lawsuit from migrants and human rights advocates.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

      DeSantis is weak. He didn't have the balls to send Cuban immigrants to Martha's Vineyard because of the Cuban political power in Florida. Instead he had to get immigrants in Texas to pull off his political stunt. .

    There are unintentional consequences from false promises of benefits to persuade migrants to travel to other states. First, more border crossings may be encouraged by publicity about benefits awaiting migrants according to Commissioner of US border protection. Secondly, Texas sheriff has certified migrants as victims of crime which allows for special visas to remain longer in the US.  Third, government investigations to determine violations of laws.  Fourth, lawsuit from migrants and human rights advocates.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 19, 2022 - 12:02 PM ET #333

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:   DeSantis is weak. He didn't have the balls to send Cuban immigrants to Martha's Vineyard because of the Cuban political power in Florida. Instead he had to get immigrants in Texas to pull off his political stunt. . There are unintentional consequences from false promises of benefits to persuade migrants to travel to other states. First, more border crossings may be encouraged by publicity about benefits awaiting migrants according to Commissioner of US border protection. Secondly, Texas sheriff has certified migrants as victims of crime which allows for special visas to remain longer in the US.  Third, government investigations to determine violations of laws.  Fourth, lawsuit from migrants and human rights advocates.
    .....& none of this would be an issue if Biden was doing his job. It's a domino effect..........starts at the top.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:   DeSantis is weak. He didn't have the balls to send Cuban immigrants to Martha's Vineyard because of the Cuban political power in Florida. Instead he had to get immigrants in Texas to pull off his political stunt. . There are unintentional consequences from false promises of benefits to persuade migrants to travel to other states. First, more border crossings may be encouraged by publicity about benefits awaiting migrants according to Commissioner of US border protection. Secondly, Texas sheriff has certified migrants as victims of crime which allows for special visas to remain longer in the US.  Third, government investigations to determine violations of laws.  Fourth, lawsuit from migrants and human rights advocates.
    .....& none of this would be an issue if Biden was doing his job. It's a domino effect..........starts at the top.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 19, 2022 - 3:33 PM ET #334

    Voter fraud in Florida during 2020 election. Arrests have been made. Would think this is happening in every state. Convicted felons voting knowing they are not allowed as that is a privilege they have lost as a result of their conviction. Integrity of elections just isn't there. It's a mater of what can and cannot be policed. If America is going to hold elections in any capacity it must ensure that elections are handled properly and fairly. Stuff like this just shows we can't, as a people, hold elections to the standards that they should be. It's a shame with all of the information and technology that the government can't standardize an election process through all states. Checks and balances and measures in place to avoid anything that could be deemed as fraud. Doesn't matter if it changes election results or not as fraud is fraud no matter what and only brings speculation that if it is happening then it could be possible that it is happening on a larger scale. In any event, our voting system is suspect and has been for a long time yet no one changes anything. Such a shame.    

    https://www.reuters.com/legal/floridians-arrested-voter-fraud-expressed-confusion-police-videos-show-2022-10-19/

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    Voter fraud in Florida during 2020 election. Arrests have been made. Would think this is happening in every state. Convicted felons voting knowing they are not allowed as that is a privilege they have lost as a result of their conviction. Integrity of elections just isn't there. It's a mater of what can and cannot be policed. If America is going to hold elections in any capacity it must ensure that elections are handled properly and fairly. Stuff like this just shows we can't, as a people, hold elections to the standards that they should be. It's a shame with all of the information and technology that the government can't standardize an election process through all states. Checks and balances and measures in place to avoid anything that could be deemed as fraud. Doesn't matter if it changes election results or not as fraud is fraud no matter what and only brings speculation that if it is happening then it could be possible that it is happening on a larger scale. In any event, our voting system is suspect and has been for a long time yet no one changes anything. Such a shame.    

    https://www.reuters.com/legal/floridians-arrested-voter-fraud-expressed-confusion-police-videos-show-2022-10-19/

     
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    Posted: Oct. 19, 2022 - 5:22 PM ET #335

    The people of Martha's Vineyard showed the world what THEY REALLY ARE by promptly shipping them off to a military base. an_light Folks needed to see the hypocrisy.

    Just like sanctuary city Chicago. 

    Revealed that the White House asked El Paso mayor NOT to declare an emergency when they actually have one. an_lightan_light

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    The people of Martha's Vineyard showed the world what THEY REALLY ARE by promptly shipping them off to a military base. an_light Folks needed to see the hypocrisy.

    Just like sanctuary city Chicago. 

    Revealed that the White House asked El Paso mayor NOT to declare an emergency when they actually have one. an_lightan_light

     
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    Posted: Oct. 19, 2022 - 8:45 PM ET #336

    Quote Originally Posted by ABooksNightmare:

    Voter fraud in Florida during 2020 election. Arrests have been made.

    Those arrested shouldn't be convicted because the law requires intent to defraud.  They were allowed to vote after receiving mail encouraging everyone to register to vote.  Problem is that Florida state department has failed to screen people who don't qualify.  A confusing law doesn't allow people convicted of murder or sex offenses to vote, but others can vote after serving their sentence.  So far, DeSantis election police is a waste of taxpayers money because voting fraud is very rare.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ABooksNightmare:

    Voter fraud in Florida during 2020 election. Arrests have been made.

    Those arrested shouldn't be convicted because the law requires intent to defraud.  They were allowed to vote after receiving mail encouraging everyone to register to vote.  Problem is that Florida state department has failed to screen people who don't qualify.  A confusing law doesn't allow people convicted of murder or sex offenses to vote, but others can vote after serving their sentence.  So far, DeSantis election police is a waste of taxpayers money because voting fraud is very rare.

     
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     You have no fucking clue.

    What an ignorant comment....it doesn't matter what immigrants arrive at Martha's Vineyard????

    You have no idea of the political temperature in Florida. So just stop commenting on a topic on which you have no insight.

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    @searchwarrant

     You have no fucking clue.

    What an ignorant comment....it doesn't matter what immigrants arrive at Martha's Vineyard????

    You have no idea of the political temperature in Florida. So just stop commenting on a topic on which you have no insight.

    confused

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    @kcblitzkrieg  DeSantis is weak. He didn't have the balls to send Cuban immigrants to Martha's Vineyard because of the Cuban political power in Florida. Instead he had to get immigrants in Texas to pull off his political stunt. The entire country got to see what an a-hole he is.

    This is one view point... "weak" and "no balls".  

    Another view point is.... "strategic political move".  This is NOT fat Donnie we are talking about....DS does not throw temper tantrums on twitter.  DeSantis already has the support of the Cuban contingent in Florida.  Those are valuable VOTERS in the Lauderdale & Miami Counties that are predominantly BLUE.  His "stunt" was purely a political move to blow up the current Administrations "head in the sand" immigration policy.  It accomplished exactly what the DeSantis camp wanted to accomplish.  Nothing more.  

    The entire Country I'm guessing does not agree with your comment of him "being an a-hole".  He is about to be re-elected easily over Chuck Crist, race isn't even going to be close.  In two years we will be having this same discussion about DeSantis but next time he will be running for President so you all should go ahead and plan for Ronnie D becoming the next US President.  Their are still +EV odds on him winning, go place your bets and you can count your money in 2 years.  

    Time is a flat circle....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    @kcblitzkrieg  DeSantis is weak. He didn't have the balls to send Cuban immigrants to Martha's Vineyard because of the Cuban political power in Florida. Instead he had to get immigrants in Texas to pull off his political stunt. The entire country got to see what an a-hole he is.

    This is one view point... "weak" and "no balls".  

    Another view point is.... "strategic political move".  This is NOT fat Donnie we are talking about....DS does not throw temper tantrums on twitter.  DeSantis already has the support of the Cuban contingent in Florida.  Those are valuable VOTERS in the Lauderdale & Miami Counties that are predominantly BLUE.  His "stunt" was purely a political move to blow up the current Administrations "head in the sand" immigration policy.  It accomplished exactly what the DeSantis camp wanted to accomplish.  Nothing more.  

    The entire Country I'm guessing does not agree with your comment of him "being an a-hole".  He is about to be re-elected easily over Chuck Crist, race isn't even going to be close.  In two years we will be having this same discussion about DeSantis but next time he will be running for President so you all should go ahead and plan for Ronnie D becoming the next US President.  Their are still +EV odds on him winning, go place your bets and you can count your money in 2 years.  

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by THEMUGG:

    none of this would be an issue if Biden was doing his job. It's a domino effect..........starts at the top.

    For decades, democrats love to have immigration reforms but republicans won't come to the table.  For example in 2013. a bipartisan group of senators wrote an immigration bill that passed the senate.  However republican house of representatives rejected it.  Also Biden and other presidents have tried introducing immigration bills eventually rejected in congress.  The last time US passed major immigration reforms was in 1986.

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    Quote Originally Posted by THEMUGG:

    none of this would be an issue if Biden was doing his job. It's a domino effect..........starts at the top.

    For decades, democrats love to have immigration reforms but republicans won't come to the table.  For example in 2013. a bipartisan group of senators wrote an immigration bill that passed the senate.  However republican house of representatives rejected it.  Also Biden and other presidents have tried introducing immigration bills eventually rejected in congress.  The last time US passed major immigration reforms was in 1986.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by THEMUGG: none of this would be an issue if Biden was doing his job. It's a domino effect..........starts at the top. For decades, democrats love to have immigration reforms but republicans won't come to the table.  For example in 2013. a bipartisan group of senators wrote an immigration bill that passed the senate.  However republican house of representatives rejected it.  Also Biden and other presidents have tried introducing immigration bills eventually rejected in congress.  The last time US passed major immigration reforms was in 1986.
    That doesn't make it OK for Biden to ignore his responsibility of protecting our borders. We have immigration laws in place for a reason. Biden doesn't seem to realize he's not fooling anyone by claiming our southern border is secure while the whole world can see it isn't. But hey, that's DJ.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by THEMUGG: none of this would be an issue if Biden was doing his job. It's a domino effect..........starts at the top. For decades, democrats love to have immigration reforms but republicans won't come to the table.  For example in 2013. a bipartisan group of senators wrote an immigration bill that passed the senate.  However republican house of representatives rejected it.  Also Biden and other presidents have tried introducing immigration bills eventually rejected in congress.  The last time US passed major immigration reforms was in 1986.
    That doesn't make it OK for Biden to ignore his responsibility of protecting our borders. We have immigration laws in place for a reason. Biden doesn't seem to realize he's not fooling anyone by claiming our southern border is secure while the whole world can see it isn't. But hey, that's DJ.

     
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    Desantis leading the Governors race down here by 11 points.... Crist has no shot, zero, zilch, nunza.... but again, no surprise to any based Floridian.  

    I can't wait till 2024....fireworks show is gonna be epic.... so many radical libs gonna have mind meltdowns.  I will be here to witness in all the glory.  

    Time is a flat circle....
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    Desantis leading the Governors race down here by 11 points.... Crist has no shot, zero, zilch, nunza.... but again, no surprise to any based Floridian.  

    I can't wait till 2024....fireworks show is gonna be epic.... so many radical libs gonna have mind meltdowns.  I will be here to witness in all the glory.  

     
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    The border is not secure

    Inflation all time high

    Crime surging and encouraged

    WW III a possibility...unlikely but joe has been wrong on every foreign issues... not my words... those were said by Obama and his top officials..

    Joe' s words... "Starts at the top "..

    We as a nation are not in a good place now...

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    The border is not secure

    Inflation all time high

    Crime surging and encouraged

    WW III a possibility...unlikely but joe has been wrong on every foreign issues... not my words... those were said by Obama and his top officials..

    Joe' s words... "Starts at the top "..

    We as a nation are not in a good place now...

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by THEMUGG: none of this would be an issue if Biden was doing his job. It's a domino effect..........starts at the top. For decades, democrats love to have immigration reforms but republicans won't come to the table.  For example in 2013. a bipartisan group of senators wrote an immigration bill that passed the senate.  However republican house of representatives rejected it.  Also Biden and other presidents have tried introducing immigration bills eventually rejected in congress.  The last time US passed major immigration reforms was in 1986.

    Then they should pass it while they have control of everything.  They just don’t want to reform it; they simply want to allow everyone in.  
    Try again.  peace_5

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by THEMUGG: none of this would be an issue if Biden was doing his job. It's a domino effect..........starts at the top. For decades, democrats love to have immigration reforms but republicans won't come to the table.  For example in 2013. a bipartisan group of senators wrote an immigration bill that passed the senate.  However republican house of representatives rejected it.  Also Biden and other presidents have tried introducing immigration bills eventually rejected in congress.  The last time US passed major immigration reforms was in 1986.

    Then they should pass it while they have control of everything.  They just don’t want to reform it; they simply want to allow everyone in.  
    Try again.  peace_5

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:   DeSantis is weak. He didn't have the balls to send Cuban immigrants to Martha's Vineyard because of the Cuban political power in Florida. Instead he had to get immigrants in Texas to pull off his political stunt. . There are unintentional consequences from false promises of benefits to persuade migrants to travel to other states. First, more border crossings may be encouraged by publicity about benefits awaiting migrants according to Commissioner of US border protection. Secondly, Texas sheriff has certified migrants as victims of crime which allows for special visas to remain longer in the US.  Third, government investigations to determine violations of laws.  Fourth, lawsuit from migrants and human rights advocates.

    “First, more border crossings may be encouraged by publicity about benefits awaiting migrants…”

    Really?  Wonder how much thought that took?  

    an_roll_laugh

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:   DeSantis is weak. He didn't have the balls to send Cuban immigrants to Martha's Vineyard because of the Cuban political power in Florida. Instead he had to get immigrants in Texas to pull off his political stunt. . There are unintentional consequences from false promises of benefits to persuade migrants to travel to other states. First, more border crossings may be encouraged by publicity about benefits awaiting migrants according to Commissioner of US border protection. Secondly, Texas sheriff has certified migrants as victims of crime which allows for special visas to remain longer in the US.  Third, government investigations to determine violations of laws.  Fourth, lawsuit from migrants and human rights advocates.

    “First, more border crossings may be encouraged by publicity about benefits awaiting migrants…”

    Really?  Wonder how much thought that took?  

    an_roll_laugh

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by THEMUGG:

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Quote Originally Posted by THEMUGG: none of this would be an issue if Biden was doing his job. It's a domino effect..........starts at the top. For decades, democrats love to have immigration reforms but republicans won't come to the table.  For example in 2013. a bipartisan group of senators wrote an immigration bill that passed the senate.  However republican house of representatives rejected it.  Also Biden and other presidents have tried introducing immigration bills eventually rejected in congress.  The last time US passed major immigration reforms was in 1986.That doesn't make it OK for Biden to ignore his responsibility of protecting our borders. We have immigration laws in place for a reason. Biden doesn't seem to realize he's not fooling anyone by claiming our southern border is secure while the whole world can see it isn't. But hey, that's DJ.

    I’m sorry.  You are giving Biden too much ‘credit’, I think.  He doesn’t have a clue and is not making any decisions.  Just doing what he is told to do/say.  However, if you say the Leftists in charge that would be what it is.  

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    Quote Originally Posted by THEMUGG:

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Quote Originally Posted by THEMUGG: none of this would be an issue if Biden was doing his job. It's a domino effect..........starts at the top. For decades, democrats love to have immigration reforms but republicans won't come to the table.  For example in 2013. a bipartisan group of senators wrote an immigration bill that passed the senate.  However republican house of representatives rejected it.  Also Biden and other presidents have tried introducing immigration bills eventually rejected in congress.  The last time US passed major immigration reforms was in 1986.That doesn't make it OK for Biden to ignore his responsibility of protecting our borders. We have immigration laws in place for a reason. Biden doesn't seem to realize he's not fooling anyone by claiming our southern border is secure while the whole world can see it isn't. But hey, that's DJ.

    I’m sorry.  You are giving Biden too much ‘credit’, I think.  He doesn’t have a clue and is not making any decisions.  Just doing what he is told to do/say.  However, if you say the Leftists in charge that would be what it is.  

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22:

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Quote Originally Posted by THEMUGG: none of this would be an issue if Biden was doing his job. It's a domino effect..........starts at the top. For decades, democrats love to have immigration reforms but republicans won't come to the table.  For example in 2013. a bipartisan group of senators wrote an immigration bill that passed the senate.  However republican house of representatives rejected it.  Also Biden and other presidents have tried introducing immigration bills eventually rejected in congress.  The last time US passed major immigration reforms was in 1986.

     

    Then they should pass it while they have control of everything. 

    Control of everything?!?!   confused

    Filibuster.  Ever heard of it? an_light

    Unless a party has a super majority in the Senate that is filibuster-proof, which the Dems don't, then they certainly DO NOT "have control of everything"

     

     

    Just passing through.  But needed to address that obvious misleader.  

    Carry on.  peace_5

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22:

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Quote Originally Posted by THEMUGG: none of this would be an issue if Biden was doing his job. It's a domino effect..........starts at the top. For decades, democrats love to have immigration reforms but republicans won't come to the table.  For example in 2013. a bipartisan group of senators wrote an immigration bill that passed the senate.  However republican house of representatives rejected it.  Also Biden and other presidents have tried introducing immigration bills eventually rejected in congress.  The last time US passed major immigration reforms was in 1986.

     

    Then they should pass it while they have control of everything. 

    Control of everything?!?!   confused

    Filibuster.  Ever heard of it? an_light

    Unless a party has a super majority in the Senate that is filibuster-proof, which the Dems don't, then they certainly DO NOT "have control of everything"

     

     

    Just passing through.  But needed to address that obvious misleader.  

    Carry on.  peace_5

     

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by baish2012:

    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22: Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Quote Originally Posted by THEMUGG: none of this would be an issue if Biden was doing his job. It's a domino effect..........starts at the top. For decades, democrats love to have immigration reforms but republicans won't come to the table.  For example in 2013. a bipartisan group of senators wrote an immigration bill that passed the senate.  However republican house of representatives rejected it.  Also Biden and other presidents have tried introducing immigration bills eventually rejected in congress.  The last time US passed major immigration reforms was in 1986.   Then they should pass it while they have control of everything.  Control of everything?!?!   Filibuster.  Ever heard of it?  Unless a party has a super majority in the Senate that is filibuster-proof, which the Dems don't, then they certainly DO NOT "have control of everything"     Just passing through.  But needed to address that obvious misleader.   Carry on.

    They have enough control to try to get some of the lukewarm Republicans onboard with something.  They just do NOT want reform is all.
    They are happy as is.   peace_5

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    Quote Originally Posted by baish2012:

    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22: Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Quote Originally Posted by THEMUGG: none of this would be an issue if Biden was doing his job. It's a domino effect..........starts at the top. For decades, democrats love to have immigration reforms but republicans won't come to the table.  For example in 2013. a bipartisan group of senators wrote an immigration bill that passed the senate.  However republican house of representatives rejected it.  Also Biden and other presidents have tried introducing immigration bills eventually rejected in congress.  The last time US passed major immigration reforms was in 1986.   Then they should pass it while they have control of everything.  Control of everything?!?!   Filibuster.  Ever heard of it?  Unless a party has a super majority in the Senate that is filibuster-proof, which the Dems don't, then they certainly DO NOT "have control of everything"     Just passing through.  But needed to address that obvious misleader.   Carry on.

    They have enough control to try to get some of the lukewarm Republicans onboard with something.  They just do NOT want reform is all.
    They are happy as is.   peace_5

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by baish2012:

    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22: Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Quote Originally Posted by THEMUGG: none of this would be an issue if Biden was doing his job. It's a domino effect..........starts at the top. For decades, democrats love to have immigration reforms but republicans won't come to the table.  For example in 2013. a bipartisan group of senators wrote an immigration bill that passed the senate.  However republican house of representatives rejected it.  Also Biden and other presidents have tried introducing immigration bills eventually rejected in congress.  The last time US passed major immigration reforms was in 1986.   Then they should pass it while they have control of everything. 

    Control of everything?!?! confused

    Filibuster. Ever heard of it?  an_light

    Unless a party has a super majority in the Senate that is filibuster-proof, which the Dems don't, then they certainly DO NOT "have control of everything"

     

     

    Just passing through. But needed to address that obvious misleader.

    Carry on.   peace_5

     

    LOL     an_cheers  baish2012

     

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by baish2012:

    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22: Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Quote Originally Posted by THEMUGG: none of this would be an issue if Biden was doing his job. It's a domino effect..........starts at the top. For decades, democrats love to have immigration reforms but republicans won't come to the table.  For example in 2013. a bipartisan group of senators wrote an immigration bill that passed the senate.  However republican house of representatives rejected it.  Also Biden and other presidents have tried introducing immigration bills eventually rejected in congress.  The last time US passed major immigration reforms was in 1986.   Then they should pass it while they have control of everything. 

    Control of everything?!?! confused

    Filibuster. Ever heard of it?  an_light

    Unless a party has a super majority in the Senate that is filibuster-proof, which the Dems don't, then they certainly DO NOT "have control of everything"

     

     

    Just passing through. But needed to address that obvious misleader.

    Carry on.   peace_5

     

    LOL     an_cheers  baish2012

     

     

     

     
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    Always good to give an example of what the Left has even tried to put forth to try to see if the Republicans would try to use the filibuster on.  Oh?  There isn’t anything?

     

    LOL an_beatup

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    Always good to give an example of what the Left has even tried to put forth to try to see if the Republicans would try to use the filibuster on.  Oh?  There isn’t anything?

     

    LOL an_beatup

     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by baish2012: Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22: Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Quote Originally Posted by THEMUGG: none of this would be an issue if Biden was doing his job. It's a domino effect..........starts at the top. For decades, democrats love to have immigration reforms but republicans won't come to the table.  For example in 2013. a bipartisan group of senators wrote an immigration bill that passed the senate.  However republican house of representatives rejected it.  Also Biden and other presidents have tried introducing immigration bills eventually rejected in congress.  The last time US passed major immigration reforms was in 1986.   Then they should pass it while they have control of everything. 

    Control of everything?!?! confused

    Filibuster. Ever heard of it?  an_light

    Unless a party has a super majority in the Senate that is filibuster-proof, which the Dems don't, then they certainly DO NOT "have control of everything"    

    Just passing through. But needed to address that obvious misleader.

    Carry on.   peace_5 

     

    LOL    an_cheers   baish2012

     

    Just trying to keep the record straight and correct the obvious misinformation from the trolls

    peace_5

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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by baish2012: Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22: Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Quote Originally Posted by THEMUGG: none of this would be an issue if Biden was doing his job. It's a domino effect..........starts at the top. For decades, democrats love to have immigration reforms but republicans won't come to the table.  For example in 2013. a bipartisan group of senators wrote an immigration bill that passed the senate.  However republican house of representatives rejected it.  Also Biden and other presidents have tried introducing immigration bills eventually rejected in congress.  The last time US passed major immigration reforms was in 1986.   Then they should pass it while they have control of everything. 

    Control of everything?!?! confused

    Filibuster. Ever heard of it?  an_light

    Unless a party has a super majority in the Senate that is filibuster-proof, which the Dems don't, then they certainly DO NOT "have control of everything"    

    Just passing through. But needed to address that obvious misleader.

    Carry on.   peace_5 

     

    LOL    an_cheers   baish2012

     

    Just trying to keep the record straight and correct the obvious misinformation from the trolls

    peace_5

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