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    DAY TWO OF THE trump SHUTDOWN

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    darkhorse12
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    Posted: Jan. 21, 2018 - 1:02 AM ET #1

    What can we look forward to?
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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.
    What can we look forward to?
     
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    Posted: Jan. 21, 2018 - 1:34 AM ET #2

    Here's what you can look forward to...........The Democrats in Congress will cave..they do not want the "ShumerShutDown" of the Government to be in effect on January 30th....when President Trump gives the State of the Union Address.
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    Here's what you can look forward to...........The Democrats in Congress will cave..they do not want the "ShumerShutDown" of the Government to be in effect on January 30th....when President Trump gives the State of the Union Address.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 21, 2018 - 9:32 AM ET #3

    These Losers will do anything to spite Trump even if it's at the expense to the people they serve.  

    What the hell do the 800,000 Border Jumpers have anything to do with this shutdown?  That's right folks, NOTHING,

    This is not on Trump; this is a shameful leverage tactic by the Loser Democratis Party.  

    I'm glad that I'm not directly affected; but this will help Trump win the Independent vote yet again in 2020.  

    People who are looking at this shutdown objectively know that this has to do with DACA and the Democrats, which ultimately can be discussed in March.  
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    These Losers will do anything to spite Trump even if it's at the expense to the people they serve.  

    What the hell do the 800,000 Border Jumpers have anything to do with this shutdown?  That's right folks, NOTHING,

    This is not on Trump; this is a shameful leverage tactic by the Loser Democratis Party.  

    I'm glad that I'm not directly affected; but this will help Trump win the Independent vote yet again in 2020.  

    People who are looking at this shutdown objectively know that this has to do with DACA and the Democrats, which ultimately can be discussed in March.  
     
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    Posted: Jan. 21, 2018 - 10:12 AM ET #4

    All because democrats are fighting for illegals 
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    All because democrats are fighting for illegals 
     
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    Posted: Jan. 21, 2018 - 10:27 AM ET #5

    Obama on illegals 

    2005 

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=T7LGoHV3aKs
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    Obama on illegals 

    2005 

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=T7LGoHV3aKs
     
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    Posted: Jan. 21, 2018 - 10:37 AM ET #6

    Can somebody please let me know if we have at least 2 patriots that represent the Democratic party? Personally. I don't  think there 2 patriots from the Left. Do not give me 'Stolen valor' Senator Blumenthal.
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    Can somebody please let me know if we have at least 2 patriots that represent the Democratic party? Personally. I don't  think there 2 patriots from the Left. Do not give me 'Stolen valor' Senator Blumenthal.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 21, 2018 - 10:48 AM ET #7

    No matter more Trump will take the blame. The buck stops at the top.

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    No matter more Trump will take the blame. The buck stops at the top.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 21, 2018 - 1:45 PM ET #8

    What I find most amusing is how the moron in chief is on record, on video pre-president of blaming the prez if a shut down happens and how smart he is with his reccomendations about how things should go and all the other throw up he would yap on about and now when he is actually in the middle of doing the job he is 100% reversing, doing the exact opposite of what he yacked on about with his stupid little ego prior to this disaster we call his presidency.

     

    Trump is a hypocrite moron and I think it is good the government shut down as this dope campaigned and blabbered on about how he would do things and now even when he wanted to cave and give in, it didnt happen. What a joke this two faced loud mouth is...he has no leadership ability and abuses any and all around him. I hope those opposing the cave in keep at this and force the twitter dope to compromise and learn how to respect others.

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    What I find most amusing is how the moron in chief is on record, on video pre-president of blaming the prez if a shut down happens and how smart he is with his reccomendations about how things should go and all the other throw up he would yap on about and now when he is actually in the middle of doing the job he is 100% reversing, doing the exact opposite of what he yacked on about with his stupid little ego prior to this disaster we call his presidency.

     

    Trump is a hypocrite moron and I think it is good the government shut down as this dope campaigned and blabbered on about how he would do things and now even when he wanted to cave and give in, it didnt happen. What a joke this two faced loud mouth is...he has no leadership ability and abuses any and all around him. I hope those opposing the cave in keep at this and force the twitter dope to compromise and learn how to respect others.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 21, 2018 - 1:48 PM ET #9

    Quote Originally Posted by Doubleadownon12:

    No matter more Trump will take the blame. The buck stops at the top.



    The buck didn't stop at the top when Obama was President...........

    Flash Back.....

    Oct.1st 2013

    President Barack Obama placed the blame for the first government shutdown in 17 years squarely on Republican shoulders ......Obama, speaking at the White House, repeatedly sought to brand it as a “Republican shutdown,”

    “They’ve shut down the government over an ideological crusade to deny affordable health insurance to millions of Americans,” Obama said. “In other words, they demanded a ransom just for doing their jobs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doubleadownon12:

    No matter more Trump will take the blame. The buck stops at the top.



    The buck didn't stop at the top when Obama was President...........

    Flash Back.....

    Oct.1st 2013

    President Barack Obama placed the blame for the first government shutdown in 17 years squarely on Republican shoulders ......Obama, speaking at the White House, repeatedly sought to brand it as a “Republican shutdown,”

    “They’ve shut down the government over an ideological crusade to deny affordable health insurance to millions of Americans,” Obama said. “In other words, they demanded a ransom just for doing their jobs.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 21, 2018 - 2:19 PM ET #10

    President Donald Trump campaign released an ad Saturday that warns Democrats they will be complicit in murders of Americans by illegal aliens..

    Complicit-Youtube

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-nm0vQwO5c



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    President Donald Trump campaign released an ad Saturday that warns Democrats they will be complicit in murders of Americans by illegal aliens..

    Complicit-Youtube

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-nm0vQwO5c



     
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    Posted: Jan. 21, 2018 - 3:42 PM ET #11

    What made republican Mitch screw over the vets and active military?
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    What made republican Mitch screw over the vets and active military?
     
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    Posted: Jan. 21, 2018 - 3:49 PM ET #12

    Listened to Mitch's lies today and Schumer's accurate account ,definitely a trump shutdown.
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    Listened to Mitch's lies today and Schumer's accurate account ,definitely a trump shutdown.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 21, 2018 - 3:50 PM ET #13

    Saying that twitter or YouTube isn’t a reliable source is like saying newspapers aren’t a good source. 

    YouTube, Twitter and newspapers aren’t a source. They are a way a source delivers their information. 

    Very misinformed statement from a very misinformed individual. 

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    Saying that twitter or YouTube isn’t a reliable source is like saying newspapers aren’t a good source. 

    YouTube, Twitter and newspapers aren’t a source. They are a way a source delivers their information. 

    Very misinformed statement from a very misinformed individual. 

     
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    Posted: Jan. 21, 2018 - 4:58 PM ET #14

    Quote Originally Posted by Slobbasaurus:

    These Losers will do anything to spite Trump even if it's at the expense to the people they serve.  

    What the hell do the 800,000 Border Jumpers have anything to do with this shutdown?  That's right folks, NOTHING,

    This is not on Trump; this is a shameful leverage tactic by the Loser Democratis Party.  

    I'm glad that I'm not directly affected; but this will help Trump win the Independent vote yet again in 2020.  

    People who are looking at this shutdown objectively know that this has to do with DACA and the Democrats, which ultimately can be discussed in March.  
    It most certainly is on trump. Last week he said bring me a bi-partisan bill and I will sign it. They did ,he didn't . And what does funding CHiP for six years have to do with a spending bill that only lasts for three weeks? Appears it was a bargaining chip also so whats good for the goose is good for the gander.
    CHiP expired 3 months ago and DACA has been an issue for quite a few years. Why haven't the republicans who control congress taken care of these issues. They wouldn't even let them come to a vote.The same as Mitch objecting to McCaskill's legislation to continue to fund the military during the shutdown. Sorry but this shutdown belongs to trump and the republicans.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slobbasaurus:

    These Losers will do anything to spite Trump even if it's at the expense to the people they serve.  

    What the hell do the 800,000 Border Jumpers have anything to do with this shutdown?  That's right folks, NOTHING,

    This is not on Trump; this is a shameful leverage tactic by the Loser Democratis Party.  

    I'm glad that I'm not directly affected; but this will help Trump win the Independent vote yet again in 2020.  

    People who are looking at this shutdown objectively know that this has to do with DACA and the Democrats, which ultimately can be discussed in March.  
    It most certainly is on trump. Last week he said bring me a bi-partisan bill and I will sign it. They did ,he didn't . And what does funding CHiP for six years have to do with a spending bill that only lasts for three weeks? Appears it was a bargaining chip also so whats good for the goose is good for the gander.
    CHiP expired 3 months ago and DACA has been an issue for quite a few years. Why haven't the republicans who control congress taken care of these issues. They wouldn't even let them come to a vote.The same as Mitch objecting to McCaskill's legislation to continue to fund the military during the shutdown. Sorry but this shutdown belongs to trump and the republicans.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 21, 2018 - 5:40 PM ET #15

    Quote Originally Posted by QMICH:


    JUST KEEP GETTING YOUR NEWS VIA TWITS & UBOOB DUMASS!  


    Another leftist keyboard ||thejester.gif' border=0> warrior ..........................
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    Quote Originally Posted by QMICH:


    JUST KEEP GETTING YOUR NEWS VIA TWITS & UBOOB DUMASS!  


    Another leftist keyboard ||thejester.gif' border=0> warrior ..........................
     
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    Posted: Jan. 21, 2018 - 8:01 PM ET #16

    Just kick the daca people out and make them apply like everyone else to become a legal citizen. Simple. If they don’t want to be separated from their family their entire family can leave too. 
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    Just kick the daca people out and make them apply like everyone else to become a legal citizen. Simple. If they don’t want to be separated from their family their entire family can leave too. 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    Just kick the daca people out and make them apply like everyone else to become a legal citizen. Simple. If they don’t want to be separated from their family their entire family can leave too. 

    Kicking seems to be the republican solution to a lot of things.Kick DACA down the road, kick CHiP down the road, kick the budget down the road,  That's why there are problems now. You willing to make up the estimated 2 billion dollars that DACA permit holders contribute to taxes that they can't receive any benefits from? How about the billions of dollars they inject into the economy.  



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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    Just kick the daca people out and make them apply like everyone else to become a legal citizen. Simple. If they don’t want to be separated from their family their entire family can leave too. 

    Kicking seems to be the republican solution to a lot of things.Kick DACA down the road, kick CHiP down the road, kick the budget down the road,  That's why there are problems now. You willing to make up the estimated 2 billion dollars that DACA permit holders contribute to taxes that they can't receive any benefits from? How about the billions of dollars they inject into the economy.  



     
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    Posted: Jan. 21, 2018 - 8:41 PM ET #18

    Quote Originally Posted by darkhorse12:


    Kicking seems to be the republican solution to a lot of things.Kick DACA down the road, kick CHiP down the road, kick the budget down the road,  That's why there are problems now. You willing to make up the estimated 2 billion dollars that DACA permit holders contribute to taxes that they can't receive any benefits from? How about the billions of dollars they inject into the economy. 




    How about kicking the leftist down the road ....

    Just increase the annual permanent immigrant quotas for legal immigrants,, to replace these illegal aliens ...problem solved ..
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    Quote Originally Posted by darkhorse12:


    Kicking seems to be the republican solution to a lot of things.Kick DACA down the road, kick CHiP down the road, kick the budget down the road,  That's why there are problems now. You willing to make up the estimated 2 billion dollars that DACA permit holders contribute to taxes that they can't receive any benefits from? How about the billions of dollars they inject into the economy. 




    How about kicking the leftist down the road ....

    Just increase the annual permanent immigrant quotas for legal immigrants,, to replace these illegal aliens ...problem solved ..
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:



    How about kicking the leftist down the road ....

    Just increase the annual permanent immigrant quotas for legal immigrants,, to replace these illegal aliens ...problem solved ..

    slim, you do know how these quotas are determined don't you?
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    How about kicking the leftist down the road ....

    Just increase the annual permanent immigrant quotas for legal immigrants,, to replace these illegal aliens ...problem solved ..

    slim, you do know how these quotas are determined don't you?
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by QMICH:

    "Thank you for calling the White ShitHouse. Unfortunately, we cannot answer your call today because the majority GOP House, Senate & our Fake President can't get shitdone. Due to this total klusterfuk, the government is shut down."
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    Quote Originally Posted by QMICH:

    "Thank you for calling the White ShitHouse. Unfortunately, we cannot answer your call today because the majority GOP House, Senate & our Fake President can't get shitdone. Due to this total klusterfuk, the government is shut down."
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by darkhorse12:


    slim, you do know how these quotas are determined don't you?


     Change the rules.............
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    Quote Originally Posted by darkhorse12:


    slim, you do know how these quotas are determined don't you?


     Change the rules.............
     
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    Posted: Jan. 21, 2018 - 9:12 PM ET #22

    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:



     Change the rules.............

    And who has control to do that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:



     Change the rules.............

    And who has control to do that?
     
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    Posted: Jan. 21, 2018 - 9:21 PM ET #23

    Obama, Pelosi and Reid kicked daca down the road. 

    Sad. 

    So your argument is that we should let illegals stay in the country, instead of letting people waiting in line to come here legally, because it’s better for the economy? 

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    Obama, Pelosi and Reid kicked daca down the road. 

    Sad. 

    So your argument is that we should let illegals stay in the country, instead of letting people waiting in line to come here legally, because it’s better for the economy? 

     
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    Posted: Jan. 21, 2018 - 9:35 PM ET #24

    Quote Originally Posted by darkhorse12:


    And who has control to do that?


    I would presume, if it deals with United States Code..the law makers Congress...What are you the question man ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by darkhorse12:


    And who has control to do that?


    I would presume, if it deals with United States Code..the law makers Congress...What are you the question man ?
     
     
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    Posted: Jan. 21, 2018 - 11:30 PM ET #25

    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    Obama, Pelosi and Reid kicked daca down the road. 

    Sad. 

    So your argument is that we should let illegals stay in the country, instead of letting people waiting in line to come here legally, because it’s better for the economy? 

     

    Obama created DACA in 2012 . Since bills start in the house and dems didn't control the house in 2012 how did pelosi and reid kick it down the road. For someone who shoots off so much about politics you don't seem to know much about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    Obama, Pelosi and Reid kicked daca down the road. 

    Sad. 

    So your argument is that we should let illegals stay in the country, instead of letting people waiting in line to come here legally, because it’s better for the economy? 

     

    Obama created DACA in 2012 . Since bills start in the house and dems didn't control the house in 2012 how did pelosi and reid kick it down the road. For someone who shoots off so much about politics you don't seem to know much about it.
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