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    UNIMAN
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    Posted: Oct. 18, 2022 - 9:42 AM ET #4426

    I hope politicians from both sides stand up and scream about this. It's not political.

    They claim no gain of function when what they actually did was take a strain that was NOT deadly and converted it to an 80% deadly new strain. That IS gain of function. 

    And besides, you mess with it first, fusing different parts, and THEN see what you got. So I ask, they can do this all the time just don't report it when it's more deadlier???? Seems to be the norm.

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    I hope politicians from both sides stand up and scream about this. It's not political.

    They claim no gain of function when what they actually did was take a strain that was NOT deadly and converted it to an 80% deadly new strain. That IS gain of function. 

    And besides, you mess with it first, fusing different parts, and THEN see what you got. So I ask, they can do this all the time just don't report it when it's more deadlier???? Seems to be the norm.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 18, 2022 - 11:20 AM ET #4427

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    They claim no gain of function when what they actually did was take a strain that was NOT deadly and converted it to an 80% deadly new strain.

    Scientists took the spike protein of omicron and attach it to original covid stain.  The new hybrid killed 80% of mice infected.  That is lower than the 100% of mice killed by the original covid.  So their conclusion is that the omicron spike protein didn't increase deadliness.  Identifying right proteins can better diagnose and treat covid in the future.

    Fox news and Daily mail have misrepresented findings and goals of Boston university.  Their research is approved by Boston public health commission and Institutional bio safety committee.  The research mirrors and reinforces the findings of Food drug administration and others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    They claim no gain of function when what they actually did was take a strain that was NOT deadly and converted it to an 80% deadly new strain.

    Scientists took the spike protein of omicron and attach it to original covid stain.  The new hybrid killed 80% of mice infected.  That is lower than the 100% of mice killed by the original covid.  So their conclusion is that the omicron spike protein didn't increase deadliness.  Identifying right proteins can better diagnose and treat covid in the future.

    Fox news and Daily mail have misrepresented findings and goals of Boston university.  Their research is approved by Boston public health commission and Institutional bio safety committee.  The research mirrors and reinforces the findings of Food drug administration and others.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 18, 2022 - 11:30 AM ET #4428

    @thirdperson

     Why bring up Fox and Daily Mail, I never did. Didn't read it at either location.

    Yes, it is stated Omicron spike protein on Original COVID. It's f-ing with it and then find out what it does. Gonna bite them in the ass just like it did in China and throughout the world.

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    @thirdperson

     Why bring up Fox and Daily Mail, I never did. Didn't read it at either location.

    Yes, it is stated Omicron spike protein on Original COVID. It's f-ing with it and then find out what it does. Gonna bite them in the ass just like it did in China and throughout the world.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 18, 2022 - 11:40 AM ET #4429

    So I just looked up FOX news on this subject; https://www.foxnews.com/us/boston-university-lethal-covid-strain-lab

    Looks pretty fair to me.

    Then I looked up CNN Breaking News. Uh, nothing, like it never even happened. an_light

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    So I just looked up FOX news on this subject; https://www.foxnews.com/us/boston-university-lethal-covid-strain-lab

    Looks pretty fair to me.

    Then I looked up CNN Breaking News. Uh, nothing, like it never even happened. an_light

     
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    Posted: Oct. 18, 2022 - 2:36 PM ET #4430

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN: They claim no gain of function when what they actually did was take a strain that was NOT deadly and converted it to an 80% deadly new strain. Scientists took the spike protein of omicron and attach it to original covid stain.  The new hybrid killed 80% of mice infected.  That is lower than the 100% of mice killed by the original covid.  So their conclusion is that the omicron spike protein didn't increase deadliness.  Identifying right proteins can better diagnose and treat covid in the future. Fox news and Daily mail have misrepresented findings and goals of Boston university. 

    Thanks for sharing those key facts, sir peace_5

    Welp, a very strong case can be made that among popular entities, the one that runs second only to Donald Trump for absolute and ongoing misinformation, deliberate omissions and deliberate misrepresenting the truth and relevent facts, is FOX NEWS.  That becomes very important when we understand that a large percentage of America swallows almost everything that is said on FOX NEWS.

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN: They claim no gain of function when what they actually did was take a strain that was NOT deadly and converted it to an 80% deadly new strain. Scientists took the spike protein of omicron and attach it to original covid stain.  The new hybrid killed 80% of mice infected.  That is lower than the 100% of mice killed by the original covid.  So their conclusion is that the omicron spike protein didn't increase deadliness.  Identifying right proteins can better diagnose and treat covid in the future. Fox news and Daily mail have misrepresented findings and goals of Boston university. 

    Thanks for sharing those key facts, sir peace_5

    Welp, a very strong case can be made that among popular entities, the one that runs second only to Donald Trump for absolute and ongoing misinformation, deliberate omissions and deliberate misrepresenting the truth and relevent facts, is FOX NEWS.  That becomes very important when we understand that a large percentage of America swallows almost everything that is said on FOX NEWS.

     

     
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    Posted: Oct. 19, 2022 - 8:34 AM ET #4431

    THE FOX ARTICLE ON BOSTON;

     

    Researchers at Boston University say they have developed a new COVID strain that has an 80% kill rate following a series of similar experiments first thought to have started the global pandemic that began in China. 

    The variant, a combination of omicron and the original virus in Wuhan, killed 80% of the mice infected with it, the university said. When mice were only exposed to omicron, they experienced mild symptoms.

    The research was conducted by a team of scientists from Florida and Boston at the school's National Emerging Infectious Diseases Laboratories. 

     

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    THE FOX ARTICLE ON BOSTON;

     

    Researchers at Boston University say they have developed a new COVID strain that has an 80% kill rate following a series of similar experiments first thought to have started the global pandemic that began in China. 

    The variant, a combination of omicron and the original virus in Wuhan, killed 80% of the mice infected with it, the university said. When mice were only exposed to omicron, they experienced mild symptoms.

    The research was conducted by a team of scientists from Florida and Boston at the school's National Emerging Infectious Diseases Laboratories. 

     

     
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    Posted: Oct. 19, 2022 - 8:36 AM ET #4432

    Continued........

    They extracted the spike protein from omicron and attached it with the strain first detected at the onset of the pandemic that began in Wuhan, China. They then documented how the mice reacted to the hybrid strain. 

    "In…mice, while Omicron causes mild, non-fatal infection, the Omicron S-carrying virus inflicts severe disease with a mortality rate of 80 percent," they wrote in a research paper. 

    The new strain has five times more infectious virus particles than the omicron variant, researchers said.

    In a statement, the university stressed that the replicated strain was less dangerous than the original strain.

    First, this research is not gain-of-function research, meaning it did not amplify the Washington state SARS-COV-2 virus strain or make it more dangerous. In fact, this research made the virus replicate less dangerous," the statement read. "Secondly, the research was reviewed and approved by the Institutional Biosafety Committee (IBC), which consists of scientists as well as local community members. The Boston Public Health Commission also approved the research. Furthermore, this research mirrors and reinforces the findings of other, similar research performed by other organizations, including the FDA. Ultimately, this research will provide a public benefit by leading to better, targeted therapeutic interventions to help fight against future pandemics."

    COVID-19 was first believed to have come from a wet market in Wuhan, though many believe the virus was engineered at the Wuhan Institute of Virology. The World Health Organization continues to face criticism for its handling of the crisis in its early, most pivotal, days.

     

     

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    Continued........

    They extracted the spike protein from omicron and attached it with the strain first detected at the onset of the pandemic that began in Wuhan, China. They then documented how the mice reacted to the hybrid strain. 

    "In…mice, while Omicron causes mild, non-fatal infection, the Omicron S-carrying virus inflicts severe disease with a mortality rate of 80 percent," they wrote in a research paper. 

    The new strain has five times more infectious virus particles than the omicron variant, researchers said.

    In a statement, the university stressed that the replicated strain was less dangerous than the original strain.

    First, this research is not gain-of-function research, meaning it did not amplify the Washington state SARS-COV-2 virus strain or make it more dangerous. In fact, this research made the virus replicate less dangerous," the statement read. "Secondly, the research was reviewed and approved by the Institutional Biosafety Committee (IBC), which consists of scientists as well as local community members. The Boston Public Health Commission also approved the research. Furthermore, this research mirrors and reinforces the findings of other, similar research performed by other organizations, including the FDA. Ultimately, this research will provide a public benefit by leading to better, targeted therapeutic interventions to help fight against future pandemics."

    COVID-19 was first believed to have come from a wet market in Wuhan, though many believe the virus was engineered at the Wuhan Institute of Virology. The World Health Organization continues to face criticism for its handling of the crisis in its early, most pivotal, days.

     

     

     
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    Posted: Oct. 19, 2022 - 8:43 AM ET #4433

    And the end..........

     

    The omicron variant is highly transmissible, even in those who are fully vaccinated. The spike protein is responsible for rates of infectivity, according to researchers, other changes to the virus’ structure determine its deadliness..

    One limitation to the study was the breed of mice used, as other types are more similar to humans.

    SHOW COVERS READERS THE MISREPRESENTITIVE FINDINGS HERE. an_popcorn

    LIKE THE PURDUE CLIMATE CHANGE STUDY YOU FABRICATE LIES AND ALL AGREE IN UNISON. 

    IT GETS OLD AND PEOPLE SEE THROUGH IT.

    A LACK OF CREDIBILITY YOUR GREATEST ACHIEVEMENT.

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    And the end..........

     

    The omicron variant is highly transmissible, even in those who are fully vaccinated. The spike protein is responsible for rates of infectivity, according to researchers, other changes to the virus’ structure determine its deadliness..

    One limitation to the study was the breed of mice used, as other types are more similar to humans.

    SHOW COVERS READERS THE MISREPRESENTITIVE FINDINGS HERE. an_popcorn

    LIKE THE PURDUE CLIMATE CHANGE STUDY YOU FABRICATE LIES AND ALL AGREE IN UNISON. 

    IT GETS OLD AND PEOPLE SEE THROUGH IT.

    A LACK OF CREDIBILITY YOUR GREATEST ACHIEVEMENT.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 19, 2022 - 9:27 AM ET #4434

    The link below is 'The Real Anthony Fauci The Movie.' I'm watching it now. Very good. Do yourself a huge favor. Have some ivermectin inside your medicine cabinet. Here you go! Enjoy the truth!

    The Real Anthony Fauci (therealanthonyfaucimovie.com)

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    The link below is 'The Real Anthony Fauci The Movie.' I'm watching it now. Very good. Do yourself a huge favor. Have some ivermectin inside your medicine cabinet. Here you go! Enjoy the truth!

    The Real Anthony Fauci (therealanthonyfaucimovie.com)

     
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    Posted: Oct. 19, 2022 - 1:01 PM ET #4435

    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: ... Fox news and Daily mail have misrepresented findings and goals of Boston university. 

     

     

    Welp, a very strong case can be made that among popular entities, the one that runs second only to Donald Trump for absolute and ongoing misinformation, deliberate omissions and deliberate misrepresenting the truth and relevent facts, is FOX NEWS.  That becomes very important when we understand that a large percentage of America swallows almost everything that is said on FOX NEWS.

     

     

    That is the case.   Fox is still in court fighting a huge defamation lawsuit for lying.

     

     

     

     

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: ... Fox news and Daily mail have misrepresented findings and goals of Boston university. 

     

     

    Welp, a very strong case can be made that among popular entities, the one that runs second only to Donald Trump for absolute and ongoing misinformation, deliberate omissions and deliberate misrepresenting the truth and relevent facts, is FOX NEWS.  That becomes very important when we understand that a large percentage of America swallows almost everything that is said on FOX NEWS.

     

     

    That is the case.   Fox is still in court fighting a huge defamation lawsuit for lying.

     

     

     

     

     

     

     
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    Posted: Oct. 19, 2022 - 9:39 PM ET #4436

    Heading back to Florida in 2 weeks but the boss & I got our last booster & flu shots yesterday.

    Feeling fantastic & looking forward to the 40 degree temperature change!

    an_clap

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    Heading back to Florida in 2 weeks but the boss & I got our last booster & flu shots yesterday.

    Feeling fantastic & looking forward to the 40 degree temperature change!

    an_clap

     
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    Posted: Oct. 26, 2022 - 10:43 AM ET #4437

    strange no one is talking about a US State Supreme court ruling in favor of unvaccinated US citizens having their Constitutional rights violated...

    Third will chime in here shortly with his statement on why the Supreme Court is wrong an_beatup

     

    https://news.yahoo.com/york-supreme-court-orders-nyc-174624343.html 

    Time is a flat circle....
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    strange no one is talking about a US State Supreme court ruling in favor of unvaccinated US citizens having their Constitutional rights violated...

    Third will chime in here shortly with his statement on why the Supreme Court is wrong an_beatup

     

    https://news.yahoo.com/york-supreme-court-orders-nyc-174624343.html 

     
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    Posted: Nov. 2, 2022 - 2:01 PM ET #4438

    The very safe and extremely effective 'vaccine' has caused the following health conditions to increase dramatically inside the United States military! The very evil and tyrannical Left made a conscious decision to destroy our men and women of the US military with the 'shot'. Here are the staggering numbers.

    • Hypertension: 2,181 percent increase
    • Nervous system disorders: 1,048 percent increase
    • Malignant neoplasms of esophagus: 894 percent increase
    • Multiple sclerosis: 680 percent increase
    • Malignant neoplasms of digestive organs: 624 percent increase
    • Guillain-Barre syndrome: 551 percent increase
    • Breast cancer: 487 percent increase
    • Demyelinating: 487 percent increase
    • Malignant neoplasms of thyroid and other endocrine glands: 474 percent increase
    • Female infertility: 472 percent increase
    • Pulmonary embolism: 468 percent increase
    • Migraines: 452 percent increase
    • Ovarian dysfunction: 437 percent increase
    • Testicular cancer: 369 percent increase
    • Tachycardia: 302 percent increase
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    The very safe and extremely effective 'vaccine' has caused the following health conditions to increase dramatically inside the United States military! The very evil and tyrannical Left made a conscious decision to destroy our men and women of the US military with the 'shot'. Here are the staggering numbers.

    • Hypertension: 2,181 percent increase
    • Nervous system disorders: 1,048 percent increase
    • Malignant neoplasms of esophagus: 894 percent increase
    • Multiple sclerosis: 680 percent increase
    • Malignant neoplasms of digestive organs: 624 percent increase
    • Guillain-Barre syndrome: 551 percent increase
    • Breast cancer: 487 percent increase
    • Demyelinating: 487 percent increase
    • Malignant neoplasms of thyroid and other endocrine glands: 474 percent increase
    • Female infertility: 472 percent increase
    • Pulmonary embolism: 468 percent increase
    • Migraines: 452 percent increase
    • Ovarian dysfunction: 437 percent increase
    • Testicular cancer: 369 percent increase
    • Tachycardia: 302 percent increase
    • <

     
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    Posted: Nov. 2, 2022 - 3:50 PM ET #4439

    Quote Originally Posted by sundance:

    The very safe and extremely effective 'vaccine' has caused the following health conditions to increase dramatically inside the United States military! The very evil and tyrannical Left made a conscious decision to destroy our men and women of the US military with the 'shot'...

    And then there's this irony quoted from the cult leader. . .

     

           “When WE came up with these incredible vaccines
           — three of them — we did a tremendous job, 
           we should NEVER disparage them! We should be
           REALLY HAPPY about it because we’ve all saved
           MILLIONS of lives all over the world!”

                                                                - donald trump, December 2021

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    Quote Originally Posted by sundance:

    The very safe and extremely effective 'vaccine' has caused the following health conditions to increase dramatically inside the United States military! The very evil and tyrannical Left made a conscious decision to destroy our men and women of the US military with the 'shot'...

    And then there's this irony quoted from the cult leader. . .

     

           “When WE came up with these incredible vaccines
           — three of them — we did a tremendous job, 
           we should NEVER disparage them! We should be
           REALLY HAPPY about it because we’ve all saved
           MILLIONS of lives all over the world!”

                                                                - donald trump, December 2021

     
    sundance
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    Posted: Nov. 2, 2022 - 4:12 PM ET #4440

    Let me help you out fupah.  Sec of Defense Lloyd Austin ensured all members of the US military will receive the poison from Moderna and Pfizer or be forced out. That is the truth. Austin did not work for President Trump as Sec of Defense. Prove me wrong.

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    Let me help you out fupah.  Sec of Defense Lloyd Austin ensured all members of the US military will receive the poison from Moderna and Pfizer or be forced out. That is the truth. Austin did not work for President Trump as Sec of Defense. Prove me wrong.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by sundance: The very safe and extremely effective 'vaccine' has caused the following health conditions to increase dramatically inside the United States military! The very evil and tyrannical Left made a conscious decision to destroy our men and women of the US military with the 'shot'...

     

     

    And then there's this irony quoted from the cult leader. . .

     

           “When WE came up with these incredible vaccines
           — three of them — we did a tremendous job, 
           we should NEVER disparage them! We should be
           REALLY HAPPY about it because we’ve all saved
           MILLIONS of lives all over the world!”

                                                                - donald trump, December 2021

    yep   there it is again     from his own mouth 

    the cult leader praising the covid vaccines as good medicine for all

    and actually hes still miffed to this day that he doesnt get enuf credit for it

     

    "I'm the MOST HONEST human being that GOD EVER created!" - Donald "the felon" Trump
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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by sundance: The very safe and extremely effective 'vaccine' has caused the following health conditions to increase dramatically inside the United States military! The very evil and tyrannical Left made a conscious decision to destroy our men and women of the US military with the 'shot'...

     

     

    And then there's this irony quoted from the cult leader. . .

     

           “When WE came up with these incredible vaccines
           — three of them — we did a tremendous job, 
           we should NEVER disparage them! We should be
           REALLY HAPPY about it because we’ve all saved
           MILLIONS of lives all over the world!”

                                                                - donald trump, December 2021

    yep   there it is again     from his own mouth 

    the cult leader praising the covid vaccines as good medicine for all

    and actually hes still miffed to this day that he doesnt get enuf credit for it

     

     
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    You need to admit that our military was poisoned by our government under the woke and cowardly leadership of Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin. Just in case you were busy.

    • Hypertension: 2,181 percent increase
    • Nervous system disorders: 1,048 percent increase
    • Malignant neoplasms of esophagus: 894 percent increase
    • Multiple sclerosis: 680 percent increase
    • Malignant neoplasms of digestive organs: 624 percent increase
    • Guillain-Barre syndrome: 551 percent increase
    • Breast cancer: 487 percent increase
    • Demyelinating: 487 percent increase
    • Malignant neoplasms of thyroid and other endocrine glands: 474 percent increase
    • Female infertility: 472 percent increase
    • Pulmonary embolism: 468 percent increase
    • Migraines: 452 percent increase
    • Ovarian dysfunction: 437 percent increase
    • Testicular cancer: 369 percent increase
    • Tachycardia: 302 percent increase
    • <

     

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    You need to admit that our military was poisoned by our government under the woke and cowardly leadership of Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin. Just in case you were busy.

    • Hypertension: 2,181 percent increase
    • Nervous system disorders: 1,048 percent increase
    • Malignant neoplasms of esophagus: 894 percent increase
    • Multiple sclerosis: 680 percent increase
    • Malignant neoplasms of digestive organs: 624 percent increase
    • Guillain-Barre syndrome: 551 percent increase
    • Breast cancer: 487 percent increase
    • Demyelinating: 487 percent increase
    • Malignant neoplasms of thyroid and other endocrine glands: 474 percent increase
    • Female infertility: 472 percent increase
    • Pulmonary embolism: 468 percent increase
    • Migraines: 452 percent increase
    • Ovarian dysfunction: 437 percent increase
    • Testicular cancer: 369 percent increase
    • Tachycardia: 302 percent increase
    • <

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by sundance: The very safe and extremely effective 'vaccine' has caused the following health conditions to increase dramatically inside the United States military! The very evil and tyrannical Left made a conscious decision to destroy our men and women of the US military with the 'shot'...    

     

    And then there's this irony quoted from the cult leader. . .

           “When WE came up with these incredible vaccines
           — three of them — we did a tremendous job, 
           we should NEVER disparage them! We should be
           REALLY HAPPY about it because we’ve all saved
           MILLIONS of lives all over the world!”

                                                                - donald trump, December 2021

     

    yep   there it is again     from his own mouth  the cult leader praising the covid vaccines as good medicine for all and actually hes still miffed to this day that he doesnt get enuf credit for it

     

    Plain as day.  an_cheers  And yeah he is still whining that he should be praised more for that.

    Trump also encouraged all Americans to get vaccinated, though I don't have his quotes handy.

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by sundance: The very safe and extremely effective 'vaccine' has caused the following health conditions to increase dramatically inside the United States military! The very evil and tyrannical Left made a conscious decision to destroy our men and women of the US military with the 'shot'...    

     

    And then there's this irony quoted from the cult leader. . .

           “When WE came up with these incredible vaccines
           — three of them — we did a tremendous job, 
           we should NEVER disparage them! We should be
           REALLY HAPPY about it because we’ve all saved
           MILLIONS of lives all over the world!”

                                                                - donald trump, December 2021

     

    yep   there it is again     from his own mouth  the cult leader praising the covid vaccines as good medicine for all and actually hes still miffed to this day that he doesnt get enuf credit for it

     

    Plain as day.  an_cheers  And yeah he is still whining that he should be praised more for that.

    Trump also encouraged all Americans to get vaccinated, though I don't have his quotes handy.

     

     

     
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    Posted: Nov. 3, 2022 - 9:17 AM ET #4444

    Quote Originally Posted by sundance:

    Let me help you out fupah.  Sec of Defense Lloyd Austin ensured all members of the US military will receive the poison from Moderna and Pfizer or be forced out. That is the truth. Austin did not work for President Trump as Sec of Defense. Prove me wrong.

    an_popcorn 

    Time is a flat circle....
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    Quote Originally Posted by sundance:

    Let me help you out fupah.  Sec of Defense Lloyd Austin ensured all members of the US military will receive the poison from Moderna and Pfizer or be forced out. That is the truth. Austin did not work for President Trump as Sec of Defense. Prove me wrong.

    an_popcorn 

     
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    Posted: Nov. 3, 2022 - 9:19 AM ET #4445

    @thirdperson 

    Glad to see a State Supreme court agree with you on the "individual freedoms" claim.....I'm sure you just innocently missed the news that the NY State Supreme has ruled these "suspensions of individual freedoms" as UNCONSTITUTIONAL.  All previously fired unvaccinated NYC employees are to be reinstated with back pay.  

    Might want to catch up on the most recent news cycle if you are going to keep up your outstanding reputation here as our resident fact checker an_roll_laugh

    https://news.yahoo.com/york-supreme-court-orders-nyc-174624343.html

    Time is a flat circle....
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    @thirdperson 

    Glad to see a State Supreme court agree with you on the "individual freedoms" claim.....I'm sure you just innocently missed the news that the NY State Supreme has ruled these "suspensions of individual freedoms" as UNCONSTITUTIONAL.  All previously fired unvaccinated NYC employees are to be reinstated with back pay.  

    Might want to catch up on the most recent news cycle if you are going to keep up your outstanding reputation here as our resident fact checker an_roll_laugh

    https://news.yahoo.com/york-supreme-court-orders-nyc-174624343.html

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by baish2012:

    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by sundance: The very safe and extremely effective 'vaccine' has caused the following health conditions to increase dramatically inside the United States military! The very evil and tyrannical Left made a conscious decision to destroy our men and women of the US military with the 'shot'...       And then there's this irony quoted from the cult leader. . .        “When WE came up with these incredible vaccines        — three of them — we did a tremendous job,         we should NEVER disparage them! We should be        REALLY HAPPY about it because we’ve all saved        MILLIONS of lives all over the world!”                                                             - donald trump, December 2021   yep   there it is again     from his own mouth  the cult leader praising the covid vaccines as good medicine for all and actually hes still miffed to this day that he doesnt get enuf credit for it   Plain as day.    And yeah he is still whining that he should be praised more for that. Trump also encouraged all Americans to get vaccinated, though I don't have his quotes handy.

     

    I don't think you realize what people are upset about. It's NOT the vaccine. It's the forced mandate to get the vax or be fired/ terminated. Complete difference there. People are also upset about how side effects data was withheld and hidden from the public. If that data was provided people would have seen how the vaccine may have effected people and would have shut down forced mandates. I, for one, know a couple people who've had negative side effects that still last to this day and have refused the "booster". Those are side effects that are common with the vax, however the data was never released. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by baish2012:

    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by sundance: The very safe and extremely effective 'vaccine' has caused the following health conditions to increase dramatically inside the United States military! The very evil and tyrannical Left made a conscious decision to destroy our men and women of the US military with the 'shot'...       And then there's this irony quoted from the cult leader. . .        “When WE came up with these incredible vaccines        — three of them — we did a tremendous job,         we should NEVER disparage them! We should be        REALLY HAPPY about it because we’ve all saved        MILLIONS of lives all over the world!”                                                             - donald trump, December 2021   yep   there it is again     from his own mouth  the cult leader praising the covid vaccines as good medicine for all and actually hes still miffed to this day that he doesnt get enuf credit for it   Plain as day.    And yeah he is still whining that he should be praised more for that. Trump also encouraged all Americans to get vaccinated, though I don't have his quotes handy.

     

    I don't think you realize what people are upset about. It's NOT the vaccine. It's the forced mandate to get the vax or be fired/ terminated. Complete difference there. People are also upset about how side effects data was withheld and hidden from the public. If that data was provided people would have seen how the vaccine may have effected people and would have shut down forced mandates. I, for one, know a couple people who've had negative side effects that still last to this day and have refused the "booster". Those are side effects that are common with the vax, however the data was never released. 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigGame90:

    I don't think you realize what people are upset about. It's NOT the vaccine. It's the forced mandate to get the vax or be fired/ terminated. Complete difference there. People are also upset about how side effects data was withheld and hidden from the public. If that data was provided people would have seen how the vaccine may have effected people and would have shut down forced mandates. I, for one, know a couple people who've had negative side effects that still last to this day and have refused the "booster". Those are side effects that are common with the vax, however the data was never released.

     

    an_lightan_lightan_light  

    Time is a flat circle....
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigGame90:

    I don't think you realize what people are upset about. It's NOT the vaccine. It's the forced mandate to get the vax or be fired/ terminated. Complete difference there. People are also upset about how side effects data was withheld and hidden from the public. If that data was provided people would have seen how the vaccine may have effected people and would have shut down forced mandates. I, for one, know a couple people who've had negative side effects that still last to this day and have refused the "booster". Those are side effects that are common with the vax, however the data was never released.

     

    an_lightan_lightan_light  

     
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    The left will never admit that they were blatantly lied to over and over again and they helped push the lie and criticized people who didn't follow (mind your own damn business people). Clearly some people never checked for themselves about the facts of the vax (partially because the data was hidden). "get the vax and you won't get covid" - lie or "my vax protects you and I care about you" - lie  or "get the vax to save your neighbors" - lie.  Complete BS and most knew that from the start. But the left kept the lie going to force the vax and the sheep followed. 99.8% recovery from covid without the vax. We knew who the virus hurt the most (all you had to do was look in the hospitals at who was showing up with the worst symptoms. Same categories of people. It was common.), yet the CDC and our gov't never divulged that info until recently. You see adds about "elderly, compromised immune systems, obese" to name a few. Sweden knew and protected those individuals first. That was the right move. 

    I still see people driving, alone, wearing their masks. Why? 

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    The left will never admit that they were blatantly lied to over and over again and they helped push the lie and criticized people who didn't follow (mind your own damn business people). Clearly some people never checked for themselves about the facts of the vax (partially because the data was hidden). "get the vax and you won't get covid" - lie or "my vax protects you and I care about you" - lie  or "get the vax to save your neighbors" - lie.  Complete BS and most knew that from the start. But the left kept the lie going to force the vax and the sheep followed. 99.8% recovery from covid without the vax. We knew who the virus hurt the most (all you had to do was look in the hospitals at who was showing up with the worst symptoms. Same categories of people. It was common.), yet the CDC and our gov't never divulged that info until recently. You see adds about "elderly, compromised immune systems, obese" to name a few. Sweden knew and protected those individuals first. That was the right move. 

    I still see people driving, alone, wearing their masks. Why? 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by sundance:

    You need to admit that our military was poisoned by our government under the woke and cowardly leadership of Secretary of Defense  Hypertension: 2,181 percent increase Nervous system disorders: 1,048 percent increase  Multiple sclerosis: 680 percent increase Malignant neoplasms of digestive organs: 624 percent increase  Breast cancer: 487 percent increase  Malignant neoplasms of thyroid and other endocrine glands: 474 percent increase Female infertility: 472 percent increase Pulmonary embolism: 468 percent increase Migraines: 452 percent increase  Testicular cancer: 369 percent increase  <

    Politifact rates false claim of huge spike in health problems of military personnel.  This has also been flagged by Facebook.  Defense health agency found that updated 2021 numbers gave misleading appearance of big increases in medical diagnoses because of under reported data in 2016-2020. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by sundance:

    You need to admit that our military was poisoned by our government under the woke and cowardly leadership of Secretary of Defense  Hypertension: 2,181 percent increase Nervous system disorders: 1,048 percent increase  Multiple sclerosis: 680 percent increase Malignant neoplasms of digestive organs: 624 percent increase  Breast cancer: 487 percent increase  Malignant neoplasms of thyroid and other endocrine glands: 474 percent increase Female infertility: 472 percent increase Pulmonary embolism: 468 percent increase Migraines: 452 percent increase  Testicular cancer: 369 percent increase  <

    Politifact rates false claim of huge spike in health problems of military personnel.  This has also been flagged by Facebook.  Defense health agency found that updated 2021 numbers gave misleading appearance of big increases in medical diagnoses because of under reported data in 2016-2020. 

     
     
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    I see Facebook lawyers argued in a lawsuit that their FACTCHECKS were really OPINIONS. 

    I rate the above statement as "TRUE". bigsmile

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    I see Facebook lawyers argued in a lawsuit that their FACTCHECKS were really OPINIONS. 

    I rate the above statement as "TRUE". bigsmile

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