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    Midnight1
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    Posted: Jul. 29, 2021 - 4:55 PM ET #2801

    Unvaccinated Scumbag Pastor Danny Reeves was telling people lies for months and now after spending time in the ICU with COVID his tune has changed.

    Unfortunately, it's too late for some members of his congregation who embraced his bullshit.

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    Unvaccinated Scumbag Pastor Danny Reeves was telling people lies for months and now after spending time in the ICU with COVID his tune has changed.

    Unfortunately, it's too late for some members of his congregation who embraced his bullshit.

     
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    Posted: Jul. 29, 2021 - 5:42 PM ET #2802

    The link below is comedian/actor Michael Rapaport on going from hero to 'Super Spreader!'  His words not mine. Today Alex Jones offered Rapaport $100,000 for his favorite charity if he would visit with Alex at the Infowars studio in Austin. I hope Rapaport takes Alex up on the offer. The following is 57 seconds of Michael Rapaport.

    Rapaport.Brighteon

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    The link below is comedian/actor Michael Rapaport on going from hero to 'Super Spreader!'  His words not mine. Today Alex Jones offered Rapaport $100,000 for his favorite charity if he would visit with Alex at the Infowars studio in Austin. I hope Rapaport takes Alex up on the offer. The following is 57 seconds of Michael Rapaport.

    Rapaport.Brighteon

     
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    Posted: Jul. 29, 2021 - 7:51 PM ET #2803

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     Please stop inaccurately vilifying the unvaccinated population, which are predominantly Black and Persons of Color; attacking them is racist.

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    @fubah2

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     Please stop inaccurately vilifying the unvaccinated population, which are predominantly Black and Persons of Color; attacking them is racist.

     
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    Posted: Jul. 29, 2021 - 8:07 PM ET #2804

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    Unvaccinated Scumbag Pastor Danny Reeves was telling people lies for months and now after spending time in the ICU with COVID his tune has changed.

    Unfortunately, it's too late for some members of his congregation who embraced his bullshit.

        Sad.   

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    Unvaccinated Scumbag Pastor Danny Reeves was telling people lies for months and now after spending time in the ICU with COVID his tune has changed.

    Unfortunately, it's too late for some members of his congregation who embraced his bullshit.

        Sad.   

     

     
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    Posted: Jul. 29, 2021 - 8:08 PM ET #2805

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

     

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

     

    Biden is right. Unvaccinated people is the problem. Not the vaccinated.  Vast majority of virus transmissions come from unvaccinated people. 99% of covid deaths and hospitalizations occur in unvaccinated population.  Vaccinated people are  far less likely to be infected.  They are 20 times more protected than the unvaccinated from becoming severely ill.  7 times more protected against mild symptoms.  Mask mandates are necessary for everyone because of the unvaccinated.

     

    Simple fact.

    But this DELTA variant is a curve ball on the outside corner for sure.

    The trump vaccines were designed to counter the original strain of the virus.  They can't possibly know how a virus will mutate when manufacturing those vaccines.

    We also know, that if covid-original flavor or the DELTA variant  (or any other variant) is allowed to spread unchecked as a result of failing to achieve herd immunity (via early vaccinations) then those viruses and their more soon-to-mutate offspring will at some point become immune to the current trump-vaccines and we are back at GROUND ZERO once again.  The Biden admin sees this well and is making every reasonable effort to get people vaccinated but it has since stalled bigly -- largely because of those REFUSING the trump-vaccine.   There's no mixed messaging there.  They've been saying for several months to get the trump-vaccine and bent over backwards to make it easier.

    The mixed messaging about getting the trump-vaccine is coming SOLELY from rightwing media...

     

    fact   peace_5

     

     

     

     

     

     

    "I'm the MOST HONEST human being that GOD EVER created!" - Donald "the felon" Trump
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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

     

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

     

    Biden is right. Unvaccinated people is the problem. Not the vaccinated.  Vast majority of virus transmissions come from unvaccinated people. 99% of covid deaths and hospitalizations occur in unvaccinated population.  Vaccinated people are  far less likely to be infected.  They are 20 times more protected than the unvaccinated from becoming severely ill.  7 times more protected against mild symptoms.  Mask mandates are necessary for everyone because of the unvaccinated.

     

    Simple fact.

    But this DELTA variant is a curve ball on the outside corner for sure.

    The trump vaccines were designed to counter the original strain of the virus.  They can't possibly know how a virus will mutate when manufacturing those vaccines.

    We also know, that if covid-original flavor or the DELTA variant  (or any other variant) is allowed to spread unchecked as a result of failing to achieve herd immunity (via early vaccinations) then those viruses and their more soon-to-mutate offspring will at some point become immune to the current trump-vaccines and we are back at GROUND ZERO once again.  The Biden admin sees this well and is making every reasonable effort to get people vaccinated but it has since stalled bigly -- largely because of those REFUSING the trump-vaccine.   There's no mixed messaging there.  They've been saying for several months to get the trump-vaccine and bent over backwards to make it easier.

    The mixed messaging about getting the trump-vaccine is coming SOLELY from rightwing media...

     

    fact   peace_5

     

     

     

     

     

     

     
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    Posted: Jul. 29, 2021 - 9:23 PM ET #2806

    Wouldn't be surprised if some antivaxxers are holding out for some additional money to further entice them to get the vaccine.

    I guess that will help their families with the burial costs.

     

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    Wouldn't be surprised if some antivaxxers are holding out for some additional money to further entice them to get the vaccine.

    I guess that will help their families with the burial costs.

     

     
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    Posted: Jul. 30, 2021 - 1:21 AM ET #2807

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    Wouldn't be surprised if some antivaxxers are holding out for some additional money to further entice them to get the vaccine. I guess that will help their families with the burial costs.

    An Oklahoma man got Covid-19 medical bill for $200,000. Luckily, he has health insurance which covers $187,000 cost for this man, and more importantly he survives.

    Following the story here, 

    https://kfor.com/news/local/oklahoma-man-left-with-hefty-medical-bill-after-covid-19-treatment/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    Wouldn't be surprised if some antivaxxers are holding out for some additional money to further entice them to get the vaccine. I guess that will help their families with the burial costs.

    An Oklahoma man got Covid-19 medical bill for $200,000. Luckily, he has health insurance which covers $187,000 cost for this man, and more importantly he survives.

    Following the story here, 

    https://kfor.com/news/local/oklahoma-man-left-with-hefty-medical-bill-after-covid-19-treatment/

     
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    Posted: Jul. 30, 2021 - 9:50 AM ET #2808

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by BigGame90: Biden- "if you get the vaccine, then you're good, you won't get covid". Biden is right. Unvaccinated people is the problem. Not the vaccinated.  Vast majority of virus transmissions come from unvaccinated people. 99% of covid deaths and hospitalizations occur in unvaccinated population.  Vaccinated people are  far less likely to be infected.  They are 20 times more protected than the unvaccinated from becoming severely ill.  7 times more protected against mild symptoms.  Mask mandates are necessary for everyone because of the unvaccinated.

    http://www.covid.is/data

    https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/vaccinated-people-singapore-make-up-three-quarters-recent-covid-19-cases-2021-07-23/

    Damn that Iceland chart just blows that statement right out of the water(75% of positive cases vaccinated)!!! Singapore too!!!! How can that be??? How can we be sooooooo different???

    WE ARE NOT. Since Delta variant has arrived we have been lied to. Charts showing 99% of hospitalizations and deaths from unvaxed go back to January 1. They need to back that far when few were vaccinated and the MAJORITY DIED and there was NO DELTA. THEY WOULDN'T DARE GO BACK ONE MONTH OR EVEN TWO.

    WHAT IS THE CURRENT INFECTION RATE OF VACCINATED ON CAPITAL HILL???? 

    an_lightan_lightan_lightan_lightTHEY WON'T TELL YOU!!! an_lightan_lightan_lightan_light

    Why the masks for the vaccinated??? DUH!!!!

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by BigGame90: Biden- "if you get the vaccine, then you're good, you won't get covid". Biden is right. Unvaccinated people is the problem. Not the vaccinated.  Vast majority of virus transmissions come from unvaccinated people. 99% of covid deaths and hospitalizations occur in unvaccinated population.  Vaccinated people are  far less likely to be infected.  They are 20 times more protected than the unvaccinated from becoming severely ill.  7 times more protected against mild symptoms.  Mask mandates are necessary for everyone because of the unvaccinated.

    http://www.covid.is/data

    https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/vaccinated-people-singapore-make-up-three-quarters-recent-covid-19-cases-2021-07-23/

    Damn that Iceland chart just blows that statement right out of the water(75% of positive cases vaccinated)!!! Singapore too!!!! How can that be??? How can we be sooooooo different???

    WE ARE NOT. Since Delta variant has arrived we have been lied to. Charts showing 99% of hospitalizations and deaths from unvaxed go back to January 1. They need to back that far when few were vaccinated and the MAJORITY DIED and there was NO DELTA. THEY WOULDN'T DARE GO BACK ONE MONTH OR EVEN TWO.

    WHAT IS THE CURRENT INFECTION RATE OF VACCINATED ON CAPITAL HILL???? 

    an_lightan_lightan_lightan_lightTHEY WON'T TELL YOU!!! an_lightan_lightan_lightan_light

    Why the masks for the vaccinated??? DUH!!!!

     

     
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    Posted: Jul. 30, 2021 - 10:36 AM ET #2809

    Just in case people missed this.

    The link below is 25 very important minutes. Karen Kingston, ex Pfizer employee  (she is genius) explains the wretched evil inside the vaccine. This interview needs to go viral. Here you go!  

    Brighteon

     
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    Just in case people missed this.

    The link below is 25 very important minutes. Karen Kingston, ex Pfizer employee  (she is genius) explains the wretched evil inside the vaccine. This interview needs to go viral. Here you go!  

    Brighteon

     
     
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    Posted: Jul. 30, 2021 - 11:21 AM ET #2810

    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: Wouldn't be surprised if some antivaxxers are holding out for some additional money to further entice them to get the vaccine. I guess that will help their families with the burial costs. An Oklahoma man got Covid-19 medical bill for $200,000. Luckily, he has health insurance which covers $187,000 cost for this man, and more importantly he survives. Following the story here,  https://kfor.com/news/local/oklahoma-man-left-with-hefty-medical-bill-after-covid-19-treatment/

    For one Mississippi couple who caught Covid-19, their outcomes provide a growing contrast. The wife, who is vaccinated, recovered after 10 days. But her unvaccinated husband has been in the hospital for 22 days and counting.

    https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/30/health/mississippi-covid-unvaccinated-man-icu/index.html

    Covid vaccination helps people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: Wouldn't be surprised if some antivaxxers are holding out for some additional money to further entice them to get the vaccine. I guess that will help their families with the burial costs. An Oklahoma man got Covid-19 medical bill for $200,000. Luckily, he has health insurance which covers $187,000 cost for this man, and more importantly he survives. Following the story here,  https://kfor.com/news/local/oklahoma-man-left-with-hefty-medical-bill-after-covid-19-treatment/

    For one Mississippi couple who caught Covid-19, their outcomes provide a growing contrast. The wife, who is vaccinated, recovered after 10 days. But her unvaccinated husband has been in the hospital for 22 days and counting.

    https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/30/health/mississippi-covid-unvaccinated-man-icu/index.html

    Covid vaccination helps people.

     
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    Posted: Jul. 30, 2021 - 2:50 PM ET #2811

    Saginaw County Michigan boy dies in his sleep after getting vaccine. Who will pay for his funeral???  Pharma's held harmless, no one to hold accountable

    https://nbc25news.com/news/local/cdc-issues-statement-on-investigation-into-death-of-13-year-old-saginaw-boy

    A month now, no word from CDC.

     

    Utah father and son hospitalized with blood clots after vaccinations. Who will pay hospital bills??? Big Pharma held harmless, no one held accountable!!

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9695451/Utah-mom-blames-COVID-vaccines-son-husband-hospitalized-blood-clots.html

     

    Now, if get covid and have long term effects................https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/biden-ada-long-covid-disability/2021/07/26/972f2a04-ee20-11eb-a452-4da5fe48582d_story.html

    Govt. long term disability. GET COVID, long term issues, your covered by BIDEN. 

    Get vaccine, long term issues, SUCKS TO BE YOU.

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    Saginaw County Michigan boy dies in his sleep after getting vaccine. Who will pay for his funeral???  Pharma's held harmless, no one to hold accountable

    https://nbc25news.com/news/local/cdc-issues-statement-on-investigation-into-death-of-13-year-old-saginaw-boy

    A month now, no word from CDC.

     

    Utah father and son hospitalized with blood clots after vaccinations. Who will pay hospital bills??? Big Pharma held harmless, no one held accountable!!

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9695451/Utah-mom-blames-COVID-vaccines-son-husband-hospitalized-blood-clots.html

     

    Now, if get covid and have long term effects................https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/biden-ada-long-covid-disability/2021/07/26/972f2a04-ee20-11eb-a452-4da5fe48582d_story.html

    Govt. long term disability. GET COVID, long term issues, your covered by BIDEN. 

    Get vaccine, long term issues, SUCKS TO BE YOU.

     
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    Posted: Jul. 30, 2021 - 3:09 PM ET #2812

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    Unvaccinated people is the problem. Not the vaccinated.  Vast majority of virus transmissions come from unvaccinated people. 99% of covid deaths and hospitalizations occur in unvaccinated population.   Damn that Iceland chart just blows that statement right out of the water(75% of positive cases vaccinated)!!! Singapore too!!!!  Charts showing 99% of hospitalizations and deaths from unvaxed go back to January 1. They need to back that far when few were vaccinated and the MAJORITY DIED and there was NO DELTA. THEY WOULDN'T DARE GO BACK ONE MONTH OR EVEN TWO.  

    Don't be alarmed by 75% covid cases among vaccinated in Singapore and Iceland.  As more people are vaccinated, a larger share of infections are expected from vaccinated population.  If 100% of population is vaccinated, all infections come from the vaccinated and none from the unvaccinated.   Although vaccines don't 100% prevent infections or transmissions, they do drastically reduce the severity of illness and chance of transmission.  Breakthorough infections are rare and typically mild.  Vaccination reduces risk of infection by 91% according to Public health England and National institute of infectious diseases.  Since immune cells work faster to clear infection, vaccinated people are far less likely to spread virus than unvaccinated people.

    Nothing wrong with using data for all months of vaccination by US center for disease control.    Health feedback fact check rates accurate the claim that 99% of covid deaths and hospitalizations occur in unvaccinated population. Similar conclusions reached in other countries.  In May alone, Associated press analysis of CDC data reveals fully vaccinated people accounts for under 1200 of over 107,000 covid hospitalizations and 150 of over 18,000 deaths. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    Unvaccinated people is the problem. Not the vaccinated.  Vast majority of virus transmissions come from unvaccinated people. 99% of covid deaths and hospitalizations occur in unvaccinated population.   Damn that Iceland chart just blows that statement right out of the water(75% of positive cases vaccinated)!!! Singapore too!!!!  Charts showing 99% of hospitalizations and deaths from unvaxed go back to January 1. They need to back that far when few were vaccinated and the MAJORITY DIED and there was NO DELTA. THEY WOULDN'T DARE GO BACK ONE MONTH OR EVEN TWO.  

    Don't be alarmed by 75% covid cases among vaccinated in Singapore and Iceland.  As more people are vaccinated, a larger share of infections are expected from vaccinated population.  If 100% of population is vaccinated, all infections come from the vaccinated and none from the unvaccinated.   Although vaccines don't 100% prevent infections or transmissions, they do drastically reduce the severity of illness and chance of transmission.  Breakthorough infections are rare and typically mild.  Vaccination reduces risk of infection by 91% according to Public health England and National institute of infectious diseases.  Since immune cells work faster to clear infection, vaccinated people are far less likely to spread virus than unvaccinated people.

    Nothing wrong with using data for all months of vaccination by US center for disease control.    Health feedback fact check rates accurate the claim that 99% of covid deaths and hospitalizations occur in unvaccinated population. Similar conclusions reached in other countries.  In May alone, Associated press analysis of CDC data reveals fully vaccinated people accounts for under 1200 of over 107,000 covid hospitalizations and 150 of over 18,000 deaths. 

     
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    Ah, the CDC finally has to tell the truth. After lieing for sooo long. So now they say OMG, it's the same here.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2021/07/30/cdc-study-shows-74percent-of-people-infected-in-massachusetts-covid-outbreak-were-fully-vaccinated.html

    Massachusetts is currently 63.9% fully vaccinated. 74% of covid positives are vaccinated. SOOOOOOO, MORE POSITIVES AMONG VACCINATED THAN UNVACCINATED. DO..............THE..................MATH!!!!

    AND WHO GETS TESTED??? THOSE WHO DON'T FEEL GOOD.

    https://www.google.com/search?q=massachusetts+vaccination+rate&newwindow=1&ei=V5oEYfaYOo24tAad0LiIAw&oq=massachusetts+vaccination+rate&gs_lcp=Cgdnd3Mtd2l6EAMyCwgAEIAEELEDEIMBMgsIABCABBCxAxCDATILCAAQgAQQsQMQgwEyBQgAEIAEMggIABCABBDJAzIFCAAQgAQyBQgAEIAEMgUIABCABDIFCAAQgAQyBQgAEIAEOgoIABCxAxCDARBDOggIABCxAxCDAToLCAAQsQMQgwEQyQM6BAgAEAM6CAgAEIAEELEDSgQIQRgAUMQJWMxGYMJMaABwAngBgAHeA4gBkimSAQkwLjYuOC40LjKYAQCgAQHAAQE&sclient=gws-wiz&ved=0ahUKEwi2oOLgh4zyAhUNHM0KHR0oDjEQ4dUDCA8&uact=5

     

    "Health feedback fact check rates accurate the claim that 99% of covid deaths and hospitalizations occur in unvaccinated population. Similar conclusions reached in other countries." 

    UK, JUNE 28th, out of 117 deaths from the Delta Variant, 50 of those deaths were fully vaccinated. surprised

    Keep trying.

    Wait two months and see how many vaccinated die from delta here in the U.S.

    And your "Vast majority of virus transmissions come from unvaccinated people." is total crap now, maybe true back in April, not anymore. Fauci has even said vaxed people who are infected have SAME viral load as unvaxed. Mass; 63.9% causing 75% of positive tests.

    Told ya it was coming. Get your mask on before you kill the unvaxed and the vaxed alike.

     

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    Ah, the CDC finally has to tell the truth. After lieing for sooo long. So now they say OMG, it's the same here.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2021/07/30/cdc-study-shows-74percent-of-people-infected-in-massachusetts-covid-outbreak-were-fully-vaccinated.html

    Massachusetts is currently 63.9% fully vaccinated. 74% of covid positives are vaccinated. SOOOOOOO, MORE POSITIVES AMONG VACCINATED THAN UNVACCINATED. DO..............THE..................MATH!!!!

    AND WHO GETS TESTED??? THOSE WHO DON'T FEEL GOOD.

    https://www.google.com/search?q=massachusetts+vaccination+rate&newwindow=1&ei=V5oEYfaYOo24tAad0LiIAw&oq=massachusetts+vaccination+rate&gs_lcp=Cgdnd3Mtd2l6EAMyCwgAEIAEELEDEIMBMgsIABCABBCxAxCDATILCAAQgAQQsQMQgwEyBQgAEIAEMggIABCABBDJAzIFCAAQgAQyBQgAEIAEMgUIABCABDIFCAAQgAQyBQgAEIAEOgoIABCxAxCDARBDOggIABCxAxCDAToLCAAQsQMQgwEQyQM6BAgAEAM6CAgAEIAEELEDSgQIQRgAUMQJWMxGYMJMaABwAngBgAHeA4gBkimSAQkwLjYuOC40LjKYAQCgAQHAAQE&sclient=gws-wiz&ved=0ahUKEwi2oOLgh4zyAhUNHM0KHR0oDjEQ4dUDCA8&uact=5

     

    "Health feedback fact check rates accurate the claim that 99% of covid deaths and hospitalizations occur in unvaccinated population. Similar conclusions reached in other countries." 

    UK, JUNE 28th, out of 117 deaths from the Delta Variant, 50 of those deaths were fully vaccinated. surprised

    Keep trying.

    Wait two months and see how many vaccinated die from delta here in the U.S.

    And your "Vast majority of virus transmissions come from unvaccinated people." is total crap now, maybe true back in April, not anymore. Fauci has even said vaxed people who are infected have SAME viral load as unvaxed. Mass; 63.9% causing 75% of positive tests.

    Told ya it was coming. Get your mask on before you kill the unvaxed and the vaxed alike.

     

     
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    Posted: Jul. 30, 2021 - 9:13 PM ET #2814

    Biden and Whitehouse still in denial. an_roll_laugh

    Biden rips Washington Post and New York Times for tweeting what CDC just released. an_roll_laughan_roll_laughan_roll_laugh

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    Biden and Whitehouse still in denial. an_roll_laugh

    Biden rips Washington Post and New York Times for tweeting what CDC just released. an_roll_laughan_roll_laughan_roll_laugh

     
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    Posted: Jul. 30, 2021 - 9:37 PM ET #2815

    In the intrests of TRUTH;

    The 75% in Massachusettes was a single outbreak. Who knows maybe 95% of those exposed were vaxed. 

    So I dug some more; "The DPH reported 3,161 new positive COVID-19 cases between July 17 and July 23."

    Numbers from the Massachusetts Department of Public Health show there have been 6,373 cases of COVID-19 in fully vaccinated individuals as of July 24, a significant jump from the 5,166 cases reported as of July 17 and 4,450 reported a week earlier.

    6373-5166=1207         1207/3161= .3818  * 100 = 38.18% of postive cases were vaccinated from July 17th to the 23rd.

    Four infected vaccinated people from that outbreak were hospitalized. 

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    In the intrests of TRUTH;

    The 75% in Massachusettes was a single outbreak. Who knows maybe 95% of those exposed were vaxed. 

    So I dug some more; "The DPH reported 3,161 new positive COVID-19 cases between July 17 and July 23."

    Numbers from the Massachusetts Department of Public Health show there have been 6,373 cases of COVID-19 in fully vaccinated individuals as of July 24, a significant jump from the 5,166 cases reported as of July 17 and 4,450 reported a week earlier.

    6373-5166=1207         1207/3161= .3818  * 100 = 38.18% of postive cases were vaccinated from July 17th to the 23rd.

    Four infected vaccinated people from that outbreak were hospitalized. 

     
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    They weaponized the vaccine! Pure evil! Prions and spike protein running wild in the bodies of the vaccinated!

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    They weaponized the vaccine! Pure evil! Prions and spike protein running wild in the bodies of the vaccinated!

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN: Unvaccinated people is the problem. Not the vaccinated.  Vast majority of virus transmissions come from unvaccinated people. 99% of covid deaths and hospitalizations occur in unvaccinated population.   Damn that Iceland chart just blows that statement right out of the water(75% of positive cases vaccinated)!!! Singapore too!!!!  Charts showing 99% of hospitalizations and deaths from unvaxed go back to January 1. They need to back that far when few were vaccinated and the MAJORITY DIED and there was NO DELTA. THEY WOULDN'T DARE GO BACK ONE MONTH OR EVEN TWO.   Don't be alarmed by 75% covid cases among vaccinated in Singapore and Iceland.  As more people are vaccinated, a larger share of infections are expected from vaccinated population.  If 100% of population is vaccinated, all infections come from the vaccinated and none from the unvaccinated.   Although vaccines don't 100% prevent infections or transmissions, they do drastically reduce the severity of illness and chance of transmission.  Breakthorough infections are rare and typically mild.  Vaccination reduces risk of infection by 91% according to Public health England and National institute of infectious diseases.  Since immune cells work faster to clear infection, vaccinated people are far less likely to spread virus than unvaccinated people. Nothing wrong with using data for all months of vaccination by US center for disease control.    Health feedback fact check rates accurate the claim that 99% of covid deaths and hospitalizations occur in unvaccinated population. Similar conclusions reached in other countries.  In May alone, Associated press analysis of CDC data reveals fully vaccinated people accounts for under 1200 of over 107,000 covid hospitalizations and 150 of over 18,000 deaths.

    thirdperson is right. 

    “If you have not been vaccinated, and you have not had COVID before, you will get the delta variant,” (Brett) Giroir said. “This is so infectious that you will get it.”*

    *https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/565741-trump-testing-czar-warns-lockdowns-may-be-on-table-if-people-dont-get

     

    Brett Giroir is former president Trump's Covid-19 testing czar. This no laughing matter, it's people's heath vs stupidity. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN: Unvaccinated people is the problem. Not the vaccinated.  Vast majority of virus transmissions come from unvaccinated people. 99% of covid deaths and hospitalizations occur in unvaccinated population.   Damn that Iceland chart just blows that statement right out of the water(75% of positive cases vaccinated)!!! Singapore too!!!!  Charts showing 99% of hospitalizations and deaths from unvaxed go back to January 1. They need to back that far when few were vaccinated and the MAJORITY DIED and there was NO DELTA. THEY WOULDN'T DARE GO BACK ONE MONTH OR EVEN TWO.   Don't be alarmed by 75% covid cases among vaccinated in Singapore and Iceland.  As more people are vaccinated, a larger share of infections are expected from vaccinated population.  If 100% of population is vaccinated, all infections come from the vaccinated and none from the unvaccinated.   Although vaccines don't 100% prevent infections or transmissions, they do drastically reduce the severity of illness and chance of transmission.  Breakthorough infections are rare and typically mild.  Vaccination reduces risk of infection by 91% according to Public health England and National institute of infectious diseases.  Since immune cells work faster to clear infection, vaccinated people are far less likely to spread virus than unvaccinated people. Nothing wrong with using data for all months of vaccination by US center for disease control.    Health feedback fact check rates accurate the claim that 99% of covid deaths and hospitalizations occur in unvaccinated population. Similar conclusions reached in other countries.  In May alone, Associated press analysis of CDC data reveals fully vaccinated people accounts for under 1200 of over 107,000 covid hospitalizations and 150 of over 18,000 deaths.

    thirdperson is right. 

    “If you have not been vaccinated, and you have not had COVID before, you will get the delta variant,” (Brett) Giroir said. “This is so infectious that you will get it.”*

    *https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/565741-trump-testing-czar-warns-lockdowns-may-be-on-table-if-people-dont-get

     

    Brett Giroir is former president Trump's Covid-19 testing czar. This no laughing matter, it's people's heath vs stupidity. 

     
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    Vaccinated people do not spread virus at the same rate as unvaccinated people. Breakthrough infections are rare among the vaccinated.  Under 1% of 164 million vaccinated in the US.  Vast majority of virus transmissions still come from unvaccinated population.  Covid cases and hospitalizations surge in regions with low vaccination rates.  The main reason why US Center for disease control change mask guidelines is the increase in infections caused by the unvaccinated.

    Misleading to suggest more deaths or hospitalizations  among vaccinated people while ignoring age differences.  Most fully vaccinated people are seniors normally at higher risk.  Whereas unvaccinated people are often young and lower risk.  But in the same age group, unvaccinated are mainly higher risk than vaccinated.   In highly vaccinated Massachusetts, the number of covid hospitalizations are down 95% since January 2021.

    Big picture is missing.  Covid cases, hospitalizations and deaths have declined significantly in US, Canada, UK and Israel since vaccination began.  For examples, vaccination prevented 60,000 UK deaths and 270,000 US deaths according to Public health England and Commonwealth fund.  Since disease is largely preventable, public health experts consider the unvaccinated a bigger problem than delta variant.  So the focus must be on the unvaccinated.

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    Vaccinated people do not spread virus at the same rate as unvaccinated people. Breakthrough infections are rare among the vaccinated.  Under 1% of 164 million vaccinated in the US.  Vast majority of virus transmissions still come from unvaccinated population.  Covid cases and hospitalizations surge in regions with low vaccination rates.  The main reason why US Center for disease control change mask guidelines is the increase in infections caused by the unvaccinated.

    Misleading to suggest more deaths or hospitalizations  among vaccinated people while ignoring age differences.  Most fully vaccinated people are seniors normally at higher risk.  Whereas unvaccinated people are often young and lower risk.  But in the same age group, unvaccinated are mainly higher risk than vaccinated.   In highly vaccinated Massachusetts, the number of covid hospitalizations are down 95% since January 2021.

    Big picture is missing.  Covid cases, hospitalizations and deaths have declined significantly in US, Canada, UK and Israel since vaccination began.  For examples, vaccination prevented 60,000 UK deaths and 270,000 US deaths according to Public health England and Commonwealth fund.  Since disease is largely preventable, public health experts consider the unvaccinated a bigger problem than delta variant.  So the focus must be on the unvaccinated.

     
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    Posted: Jul. 31, 2021 - 5:29 PM ET #2819

    We have established a record with 21,683 new covid cases in Florida. Yesterday, we had 17,093.

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    We have established a record with 21,683 new covid cases in Florida. Yesterday, we had 17,093.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:

    Bill Gates sort of predicting that US Covid-19 affected case will peak out in late April if lock down happens early and effectively, hang tight, Midnight1.
    an_roll_laugh

    Relax. I'm unvaxxed!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:

    Bill Gates sort of predicting that US Covid-19 affected case will peak out in late April if lock down happens early and effectively, hang tight, Midnight1.
    an_roll_laugh

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    Bill Gates has made more money than he'll ever need & has dedicated his life to eliminate diseases no matter where they are.

    an_roll_laugh

    Relax. I'm unvaxxed!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    Bill Gates has made more money than he'll ever need & has dedicated his life to eliminate diseases no matter where they are.

    an_roll_laugh

     
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    Posted: Jul. 31, 2021 - 8:42 PM ET #2822

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    A vaccine will get us back to as normal as possible but that is still months away. Having said that, if I was in a real bad situation unless something was done, I would try anything to stay alive. I don't fault with anyone for trying anything to stay alive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    A vaccine will get us back to as normal as possible but that is still months away. Having said that, if I was in a real bad situation unless something was done, I would try anything to stay alive. I don't fault with anyone for trying anything to stay alive.

    an_roll_laugh

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    We have established a record with 21,683 new covid cases in Florida. Yesterday, we had 17,093.

    Florida is US epicenter of covid outbreaks with the most hospitalizations of any state.  Doctors are angry and ashamed over governor DeSantis negligent response to the pandemic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    We have established a record with 21,683 new covid cases in Florida. Yesterday, we had 17,093.

    Florida is US epicenter of covid outbreaks with the most hospitalizations of any state.  Doctors are angry and ashamed over governor DeSantis negligent response to the pandemic.

     
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    Two travelers from the US fined nearly $20K each for providing false vaccination information to Canadian authorities, according to the Public Health Agency of Canada.

    Thank You Canada

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    Two travelers from the US fined nearly $20K each for providing false vaccination information to Canadian authorities, according to the Public Health Agency of Canada.

    Thank You Canada

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    REPUBLICAN Lawmaker
    Changes His Tune On Coronavirus
    After Nearly Dying Of COVID-19 an_light

     

    A GOP lawmaker in Tennessee who once backed a bill claiming the media
    sensationalized the coronavirus “in the service of political agendas”
    has a new message after nearly dying of the infection.

    “It is a disease that wants to kill us,” state Rep. David Byrd wrote
    in a statement cited by NewsChannel 5
    “Please take it seriously!”

    Byrd attended a state House Republican retreat in November,
    which included a dinner with dozens present, and he was seen
    on the House floor without a mask on Nov. 24.

    Byrd was diagnosed with coronavirus one day later. an_light

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    REPUBLICAN Lawmaker
    Changes His Tune On Coronavirus
    After Nearly Dying Of COVID-19 an_light

     

    A GOP lawmaker in Tennessee who once backed a bill claiming the media
    sensationalized the coronavirus “in the service of political agendas”
    has a new message after nearly dying of the infection.

    “It is a disease that wants to kill us,” state Rep. David Byrd wrote
    in a statement cited by NewsChannel 5
    “Please take it seriously!”

    Byrd attended a state House Republican retreat in November,
    which included a dinner with dozens present, and he was seen
    on the House floor without a mask on Nov. 24.

    Byrd was diagnosed with coronavirus one day later. an_light

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