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    Breaking. O Used British Spy Agency to Spy on Trump

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    sundance
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    Posted: Mar. 14, 2017 - 1:23 PM ET #1

    Judge Napolitano disclosed on Fox and Friends this morning that O used the British Spy agency called GCHQ to spy on Trump. This secured O plausible deniability. Where there is smoke there is fire. The link below is an article from the alt right called info wars and Alex Jones. Was the MSM informing everybody this morning of this breaking revelation regarding Barak Hussein Obama? Nice Christian name by the way. 

    https://www.infowars.com/intel-sources-obama-used-british-spies-to-tap-trump/


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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.

    Judge Napolitano disclosed on Fox and Friends this morning that O used the British Spy agency called GCHQ to spy on Trump. This secured O plausible deniability. Where there is smoke there is fire. The link below is an article from the alt right called info wars and Alex Jones. Was the MSM informing everybody this morning of this breaking revelation regarding Barak Hussein Obama? Nice Christian name by the way. 

    https://www.infowars.com/intel-sources-obama-used-british-spies-to-tap-trump/


     
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    Posted: Mar. 14, 2017 - 2:24 PM ET #2

    knew when Trump tweeted it wasn't just to run his mouth....

    interested in how congress covers this one up.

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    knew when Trump tweeted it wasn't just to run his mouth....

    interested in how congress covers this one up.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 14, 2017 - 2:32 PM ET #3

    This 'should' get so huge they will not be able to cover it up. 
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    This 'should' get so huge they will not be able to cover it up. 
     
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    Posted: Mar. 14, 2017 - 3:16 PM ET #4

    This "great white shark inland usa" , is already widely known, but it is a good chance to caught a tell of how congress and msm lies to protect a secret they do not wish to be disclosed and realize that a small window of plausible deniability may still exist.... 
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    This "great white shark inland usa" , is already widely known, but it is a good chance to caught a tell of how congress and msm lies to protect a secret they do not wish to be disclosed and realize that a small window of plausible deniability may still exist.... 
     
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    Posted: Mar. 14, 2017 - 3:18 PM ET #5

    deflecting this too british are doing this as well is a deception to reality our intelligence private contractors are the leaks.
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    deflecting this too british are doing this as well is a deception to reality our intelligence private contractors are the leaks.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 14, 2017 - 10:28 PM ET #6

    Quote Originally Posted by sundance:

    Judge Napolitano disclosed on Fox and Friends this morning that O used the British Spy agency called GCHQ to spy on Trump. This secured O plausible deniability. Where there is smoke there is fire. The link below is an article from the alt right called info wars and Alex Jones. Was the MSM informing everybody this morning of this breaking revelation regarding Barak Hussein Obama? Nice Christian name by the way. 

    https://www.infowars.com/intel-sources-obama-used-british-spies-to-tap-trump/



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    Quote Originally Posted by sundance:

    Judge Napolitano disclosed on Fox and Friends this morning that O used the British Spy agency called GCHQ to spy on Trump. This secured O plausible deniability. Where there is smoke there is fire. The link below is an article from the alt right called info wars and Alex Jones. Was the MSM informing everybody this morning of this breaking revelation regarding Barak Hussein Obama? Nice Christian name by the way. 

    https://www.infowars.com/intel-sources-obama-used-british-spies-to-tap-trump/



     
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    Posted: Mar. 14, 2017 - 11:08 PM ET #7

    Quote Originally Posted by darkhorse12:





    More than 3 rolling heads is superfluous...............
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    Quote Originally Posted by darkhorse12:





    More than 3 rolling heads is superfluous...............
     
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    Posted: Mar. 14, 2017 - 11:24 PM ET #8

    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:




    More than 3 rolling heads is superfluous...............

    It's a double cd numbers! 
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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:




    More than 3 rolling heads is superfluous...............

    It's a double cd numbers! 
     
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    Posted: Mar. 14, 2017 - 11:40 PM ET #9

    Quote Originally Posted by darkhorse12:


    It's a double cd numbers! 


    Oh well ..then it's OK..as long as its not double dl numbers....
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    Quote Originally Posted by darkhorse12:


    It's a double cd numbers! 


    Oh well ..then it's OK..as long as its not double dl numbers....
     
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    Posted: Mar. 14, 2017 - 11:49 PM ET #10

    According to Reuters, British security official for GCHQ calls the allegation totally untrue and absurd.  Under British law, spy agency can only gather intelligence for national security purposes.  US election doesn't meet that criteria.  Besides, infowars is a fake news source and Alex Jones is known for conspiracy theories.  Furthermore, there is still no evidence of Trump being wiretapped.
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    According to Reuters, British security official for GCHQ calls the allegation totally untrue and absurd.  Under British law, spy agency can only gather intelligence for national security purposes.  US election doesn't meet that criteria.  Besides, infowars is a fake news source and Alex Jones is known for conspiracy theories.  Furthermore, there is still no evidence of Trump being wiretapped.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 15, 2017 - 12:08 AM ET #11

    Judge Andrew Napolitano said former President Barack Obama used a British spy agency to surveil President Donald Trump, effectively eliminating any trail leading back to the administration.

    "Three intelligence sources have informed Fox News that President Obama went outside the chain of command," Napolitano told Fox News'

    "What happened to the guy who ordered this?

    Resigned three days after Donald Trump was inaugurated," Judge Napolitano said.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-38723040



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    Judge Andrew Napolitano said former President Barack Obama used a British spy agency to surveil President Donald Trump, effectively eliminating any trail leading back to the administration.

    "Three intelligence sources have informed Fox News that President Obama went outside the chain of command," Napolitano told Fox News'

    "What happened to the guy who ordered this?

    Resigned three days after Donald Trump was inaugurated," Judge Napolitano said.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-38723040



     
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    Posted: Mar. 15, 2017 - 5:35 PM ET #12

    This isn't surprising. All the conspiracies come from the Russians - and are fed to the British and then given to American liberals in government. If you go deep into the rabbit hole, you'll see American liberals and British liberals and the Russians in bed having a 3 way. I believe the British are once again enemies of America. The only true American allies are Israelis.
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    This isn't surprising. All the conspiracies come from the Russians - and are fed to the British and then given to American liberals in government. If you go deep into the rabbit hole, you'll see American liberals and British liberals and the Russians in bed having a 3 way. I believe the British are once again enemies of America. The only true American allies are Israelis.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 15, 2017 - 10:05 PM ET #13

    Quote Originally Posted by MoneySRH:

    This isn't surprising. All the conspiracies come from the Russians - and are fed to the British and then given to American liberals in government. If you go deep into the rabbit hole, you'll see American liberals and British liberals and the Russians in bed having a 3 way. I believe the British are once again enemies of America. The only true American allies are Israelis.

    I believe that in britian, europe russia and america all having problems with Islamic extremists. Trump has bi passed the comprimised career diplomats held in tenure at the state department. Buisnesses which makes deals with governments anyway are now doing so with the nod from Tillerson. Russian exxon alliance developed under Clinton , Bush and Obama is tapping their negotiators to work with in American interests abroad.

    we keep thinking a us against them but this rabbit hole shows what they are. A loose coalition to destabilized legit governing systems to create chaos for purpose to deflect attention to what their desires are. keep all people under control of these minute to minute developing special interests.

    Power corrupts, absolute power will corrupt all those who are not perfect. Having unfireable workers with in any system under a guise of tenure. Fosters a level of corruption that can not be unseated, and usually over some petty jealousy issues the orchestrated powers of such acts do so with out knowing how chaos meddled with can get out of control as quickly as a camp fire spreads to a forest destroyer in favorable weather and wind conditions.

    destabilizing regions should be careful thought out venture to begin what do you wish to be left when the mess is done. Risk management does not just deal with what risks are pending, but how to diminish those risks effects as they happen. 
    Our government is been on their seat of the pants wing it a fly as you able to gathering randomness as ally, But sooner or later great thinkers will start looking for solution based initiatives.

    As far as Trump Presidency, He has some of the most successful minds in positions of power and he wants to win. I believe that this potentially a no lose situation for America.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MoneySRH:

    This isn't surprising. All the conspiracies come from the Russians - and are fed to the British and then given to American liberals in government. If you go deep into the rabbit hole, you'll see American liberals and British liberals and the Russians in bed having a 3 way. I believe the British are once again enemies of America. The only true American allies are Israelis.

    I believe that in britian, europe russia and america all having problems with Islamic extremists. Trump has bi passed the comprimised career diplomats held in tenure at the state department. Buisnesses which makes deals with governments anyway are now doing so with the nod from Tillerson. Russian exxon alliance developed under Clinton , Bush and Obama is tapping their negotiators to work with in American interests abroad.

    we keep thinking a us against them but this rabbit hole shows what they are. A loose coalition to destabilized legit governing systems to create chaos for purpose to deflect attention to what their desires are. keep all people under control of these minute to minute developing special interests.

    Power corrupts, absolute power will corrupt all those who are not perfect. Having unfireable workers with in any system under a guise of tenure. Fosters a level of corruption that can not be unseated, and usually over some petty jealousy issues the orchestrated powers of such acts do so with out knowing how chaos meddled with can get out of control as quickly as a camp fire spreads to a forest destroyer in favorable weather and wind conditions.

    destabilizing regions should be careful thought out venture to begin what do you wish to be left when the mess is done. Risk management does not just deal with what risks are pending, but how to diminish those risks effects as they happen. 
    Our government is been on their seat of the pants wing it a fly as you able to gathering randomness as ally, But sooner or later great thinkers will start looking for solution based initiatives.

    As far as Trump Presidency, He has some of the most successful minds in positions of power and he wants to win. I believe that this potentially a no lose situation for America.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 17, 2017 - 5:04 PM ET #14

    @Sundance

    Are you OK ?


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    @Sundance

    Are you OK ?


     
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    Posted: Mar. 17, 2017 - 5:12 PM ET #15

    Could not be better! I feel like a million dollars. Sam Adams is still tasting goodI have utmost trust and faith in Napolitano.
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    Could not be better! I feel like a million dollars. Sam Adams is still tasting goodI have utmost trust and faith in Napolitano.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 17, 2017 - 5:13 PM ET #16

    I am very,very very worried about brother Sundance, brother Nature70 and brother Sabanesque mental health.

    We've already lost brother Zelo123 to OBS (Obama Derangement Syndrome) 

    Enough ..  

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    I am very,very very worried about brother Sundance, brother Nature70 and brother Sabanesque mental health.

    We've already lost brother Zelo123 to OBS (Obama Derangement Syndrome) 

    Enough ..  

     
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    Posted: Mar. 17, 2017 - 5:14 PM ET #17

    OBS should read ODS
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    OBS should read ODS
     
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    Posted: Mar. 17, 2017 - 6:18 PM ET #18

    Quote Originally Posted by sundance:

    Could not be better! I feel like a million dollars. Sam Adams is still tasting goodI have utmost trust and faith in Napolitano.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sundance:

    Could not be better! I feel like a million dollars. Sam Adams is still tasting goodI have utmost trust and faith in Napolitano.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 17, 2017 - 6:19 PM ET #19

    OK will wait until brother Sundance is sober ..

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    OK will wait until brother Sundance is sober ..

     
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    Posted: Mar. 17, 2017 - 6:54 PM ET #20

    So who were these 3 "intelligence sources" that Napolitano got information from, inquiring minds need to know.
    Gotta go pee!
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    So who were these 3 "intelligence sources" that Napolitano got information from, inquiring minds need to know.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 17, 2017 - 7:51 PM ET #21

    I will be sober sometime tomorrow. I am hoping my prostitute is 1/2 price on St Pats Day!
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    I will be sober sometime tomorrow. I am hoping my prostitute is 1/2 price on St Pats Day!
     
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    Posted: Mar. 17, 2017 - 7:57 PM ET #22

    fox jumped off the ship before it sunk, clever. 
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    fox jumped off the ship before it sunk, clever. 
     
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    Posted: Mar. 17, 2017 - 9:04 PM ET #23

    Quote Originally Posted by idle_havoc:

    So who were these 3 "intelligence sources" that 
    Napolitano got information from, inquiring minds need to know.

    Faux News is a propaganda wing for the republicans.
    Remember  Nils Bildt aka Nils Tolling Faux News “Swedish defense and national security advisor” 



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    Quote Originally Posted by idle_havoc:

    So who were these 3 "intelligence sources" that 
    Napolitano got information from, inquiring minds need to know.

    Faux News is a propaganda wing for the republicans.
    Remember  Nils Bildt aka Nils Tolling Faux News “Swedish defense and national security advisor” 



     
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    Posted: Mar. 17, 2017 - 11:03 PM ET #24

    merkel accusation

    Barack Obama 'approved tapping Angela Merkel's phone 3 years ago'

    President Barack Obama was told about monitoring of German Chancellor in 2010 and allowed it to continue, says German newspaper


    source: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/germany/10407282/Barack-Obama-approved-tapping-Angela-Merkels-phone-3-years-ago.html
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    merkel accusation

    Barack Obama 'approved tapping Angela Merkel's phone 3 years ago'

    President Barack Obama was told about monitoring of German Chancellor in 2010 and allowed it to continue, says German newspaper


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    The president allegedly allowed US intelligence to listen to calls from the German Chancellor’s mobile phone after he was briefed on the operation by Keith Alexander, director of the National Security Agency (NSA), in 2010.
    The latest claim, reported in the German newspaper Bild am Sonntag, followed reports in Der Spiegel that the surveillance of Mrs Merkel’s phone began as long ago as 2002, when she was still the opposition leader, three years before being elected Chancellor. That monitoring only ended in the weeks before Mr Obama visited Berlin in June this year, the magazine added.
    Citing leaked US intelligence documents, it also reported that America conducted eavesdropping operations on the German government from a listening post at its embassy beside the Brandenburg Gate in Berlin, one of more than 80 such centres worldwide.
    Mr Obama’s European allies will now ask him to say what he personally knew about the NSA’s global eavesdropping operation and its targeting of world leaders, including those from friendly states. The White House declined to comment on the German media reports.
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    Last week, however, Mr Obama assured Mrs Merkel that her phone is not being monitored now – and will not be in future. But the US has pointedly declined to discuss the NSA’s actions in the past.
    Its surveillance operations raises questions about whether US officials breached domestic laws. Hans-Peter Friedrich, the German interior minister, said: “If the Americans intercepted cellphones in Germany, they broke German law on German soil”. He noted that wiretapping was a crime in Germany and “those responsible must be held accountable”.
    Even before the latest reports, German intelligence chiefs were preparing to travel to Washington this week to demand answers from the NSA about the alleged surveillance of Mrs Merkel.
    John Kerry, the US secretary of state, received a dose of European fury this weekend when he visited Paris and Rome. The trip was arranged to discuss the Middle East peace process, the Syrian civil war and Iran’s nuclear programme. Instead, he was confronted by outrage over the scale of US surveillance operations.
    “The magnitude of the eavesdropping is what shocked us,” said Bernard Kouchner, a former French foreign minister, in a radio interview. “Let’s be honest, we eavesdrop too. Everyone is listening to everyone else. But we don’t have the same means as the United States, which makes us jealous.”
    According to the leaked documents in Spiegel, NSA officials acknowledged that any disclosure of the existence of the foreign listening posts would lead to “grave damage” for US relations with other governments.
    Such posts exist in 19 European cities, including Paris, Madrid, Rome and Frankfurt, according to the magazine, which has based its reports on documents provided by Edward Snowden, the former NSA contractor.
    Mr Obama did not comment, but Republican supporters of the US intelligence community began a fightback on the political talk-shows.
    Mike Rogers, the chairman of the intelligence committee in the House of Representatives, said that America’s allies should be grateful for surveillance operations which targeted terrorist threats. “I would argue by the way, if the French citizens knew exactly what that was about, they would be applauding and popping champagne corks,” he told CNN’s State of the Union.
    “It’s a good thing. it keeps the French safe. It keeps the US safe. It keeps our European allies safe.”
    Peter King, a fellow Republican congressman, said that Mr Obama should not apologise for NSA operations in Europe. “The president should stop apologising, stop being defensive,” he said on NBC’s Meet the Press. “The reality is the NSA has saved thousands of lives not just in the United States but in France, Germany and throughout Europe. Quite frankly, the NSA has done so much for our country and so much for the president, he’s the commander in chief. He should stand with the NSA.”
    John Schindler, a former NSA official, noted that planning for the terrorist attacks on Sept 11, 2001 had taken place in Hamburg.
    “If 9/11 had happened to Germany and been planned in NY not Hamburg, I’d expect [German] intel to monitor USA top 2 bottom,” he wrote on Twitter.
    A German intelligence official, quoted by Die Welt, said: “The Americans did not want to rely exclusively on us after September 11th. That is understandable.”
    Another told the newspaper: “Without information from the Americans, there would have been successful terrorist attacks in Germany in the past years
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    The president allegedly allowed US intelligence to listen to calls from the German Chancellor’s mobile phone after he was briefed on the operation by Keith Alexander, director of the National Security Agency (NSA), in 2010.
    The latest claim, reported in the German newspaper Bild am Sonntag, followed reports in Der Spiegel that the surveillance of Mrs Merkel’s phone began as long ago as 2002, when she was still the opposition leader, three years before being elected Chancellor. That monitoring only ended in the weeks before Mr Obama visited Berlin in June this year, the magazine added.
    Citing leaked US intelligence documents, it also reported that America conducted eavesdropping operations on the German government from a listening post at its embassy beside the Brandenburg Gate in Berlin, one of more than 80 such centres worldwide.
    Mr Obama’s European allies will now ask him to say what he personally knew about the NSA’s global eavesdropping operation and its targeting of world leaders, including those from friendly states. The White House declined to comment on the German media reports.
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    Last week, however, Mr Obama assured Mrs Merkel that her phone is not being monitored now – and will not be in future. But the US has pointedly declined to discuss the NSA’s actions in the past.
    Its surveillance operations raises questions about whether US officials breached domestic laws. Hans-Peter Friedrich, the German interior minister, said: “If the Americans intercepted cellphones in Germany, they broke German law on German soil”. He noted that wiretapping was a crime in Germany and “those responsible must be held accountable”.
    Even before the latest reports, German intelligence chiefs were preparing to travel to Washington this week to demand answers from the NSA about the alleged surveillance of Mrs Merkel.
    John Kerry, the US secretary of state, received a dose of European fury this weekend when he visited Paris and Rome. The trip was arranged to discuss the Middle East peace process, the Syrian civil war and Iran’s nuclear programme. Instead, he was confronted by outrage over the scale of US surveillance operations.
    “The magnitude of the eavesdropping is what shocked us,” said Bernard Kouchner, a former French foreign minister, in a radio interview. “Let’s be honest, we eavesdrop too. Everyone is listening to everyone else. But we don’t have the same means as the United States, which makes us jealous.”
    According to the leaked documents in Spiegel, NSA officials acknowledged that any disclosure of the existence of the foreign listening posts would lead to “grave damage” for US relations with other governments.
    Such posts exist in 19 European cities, including Paris, Madrid, Rome and Frankfurt, according to the magazine, which has based its reports on documents provided by Edward Snowden, the former NSA contractor.
    Mr Obama did not comment, but Republican supporters of the US intelligence community began a fightback on the political talk-shows.
    Mike Rogers, the chairman of the intelligence committee in the House of Representatives, said that America’s allies should be grateful for surveillance operations which targeted terrorist threats. “I would argue by the way, if the French citizens knew exactly what that was about, they would be applauding and popping champagne corks,” he told CNN’s State of the Union.
    “It’s a good thing. it keeps the French safe. It keeps the US safe. It keeps our European allies safe.”
    Peter King, a fellow Republican congressman, said that Mr Obama should not apologise for NSA operations in Europe. “The president should stop apologising, stop being defensive,” he said on NBC’s Meet the Press. “The reality is the NSA has saved thousands of lives not just in the United States but in France, Germany and throughout Europe. Quite frankly, the NSA has done so much for our country and so much for the president, he’s the commander in chief. He should stand with the NSA.”
    John Schindler, a former NSA official, noted that planning for the terrorist attacks on Sept 11, 2001 had taken place in Hamburg.
    “If 9/11 had happened to Germany and been planned in NY not Hamburg, I’d expect [German] intel to monitor USA top 2 bottom,” he wrote on Twitter.
    A German intelligence official, quoted by Die Welt, said: “The Americans did not want to rely exclusively on us after September 11th. That is understandable.”
    Another told the newspaper: “Without information from the Americans, there would have been successful terrorist attacks in Germany in the past years
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