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    BREAKING: More MAGA republicans in serious legal trouble for fraud, conspiracy

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    fubah2
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    Posted: Apr. 26, 2024 - 10:41 PM ET #26

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Charges against Trump's 2020 'fake electors' are expected to deter a repeat this year                

    ASSOCIATED PRESS -An Arizona grand jury's indictment of 18 republicans who either posed as or helped organize a slate of electors falsely claiming that former President Trump won the state in 2020 could help shape the landscape of challenges to the 2024 election.

    The indictment issued Wednesday is part of a campaign
    to deter a repeat of 2020, when Trump and his Republican
    accomplices falsely claimed he won swing states,
    filed dozens of lawsuits unsuccessfully challenging
    Joe Biden's victory and tried to get Congress to let Trump
    stay in power.

    That campaign culminated with the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the U.S. Capitol.

    Reply

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Charges against Trump's 2020 'fake electors' are expected to deter a repeat this year                

    ASSOCIATED PRESS -An Arizona grand jury's indictment of 18 republicans who either posed as or helped organize a slate of electors falsely claiming that former President Trump won the state in 2020 could help shape the landscape of challenges to the 2024 election.

    The indictment issued Wednesday is part of a campaign
    to deter a repeat of 2020, when Trump and his Republican
    accomplices falsely claimed he won swing states,
    filed dozens of lawsuits unsuccessfully challenging
    Joe Biden's victory and tried to get Congress to let Trump
    stay in power.

    That campaign culminated with the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the U.S. Capitol.

     
    Zeus4par
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    Posted: Apr. 27, 2024 - 1:20 AM ET #27

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Charges against Trump's 2020 'fake electors' are expected to deter a repeat this year                 ASSOCIATED PRESS -An Arizona grand jury's indictment of 18 republicans who either posed as or helped organize a slate of electors falsely claiming that former President Trump won the state in 2020 could help shape the landscape of challenges to the 2024 election.

    We have to hope the republicans will not be successful in cheating this election

    Reply

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Charges against Trump's 2020 'fake electors' are expected to deter a repeat this year                 ASSOCIATED PRESS -An Arizona grand jury's indictment of 18 republicans who either posed as or helped organize a slate of electors falsely claiming that former President Trump won the state in 2020 could help shape the landscape of challenges to the 2024 election.

    We have to hope the republicans will not be successful in cheating this election

     
    KellyM_1964
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    Posted: Apr. 27, 2024 - 10:28 AM ET #28

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Charges against Trump's 2020 'fake electors' are expected to deter a repeat this year                 ASSOCIATED PRESS -An Arizona grand jury's indictment of 18 republicans who either posed as or helped organize a slate of electors falsely claiming that former President Trump won the state in 2020 could help shape the landscape of challenges to the 2024 election. The indictment issued Wednesday is part of a campaign to deter a repeat of 2020, when Trump and his Republican accomplices falsely claimed he won swing states, filed dozens of lawsuits unsuccessfully challenging Joe Biden's victory and tried to get Congress to let Trump stay in power. That campaign culminated with the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the U.S. Capitol.

    lock them up   lock them up  an_cheers

     

     

    "I'm the MOST HONEST human being that GOD EVER created!" - Donald "the felon" Trump
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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Charges against Trump's 2020 'fake electors' are expected to deter a repeat this year                 ASSOCIATED PRESS -An Arizona grand jury's indictment of 18 republicans who either posed as or helped organize a slate of electors falsely claiming that former President Trump won the state in 2020 could help shape the landscape of challenges to the 2024 election. The indictment issued Wednesday is part of a campaign to deter a repeat of 2020, when Trump and his Republican accomplices falsely claimed he won swing states, filed dozens of lawsuits unsuccessfully challenging Joe Biden's victory and tried to get Congress to let Trump stay in power. That campaign culminated with the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the U.S. Capitol.

    lock them up   lock them up  an_cheers

     

     

     
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    Posted: Apr. 27, 2024 - 10:38 AM ET #29

    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Charges against Trump's 2020 'fake electors' are expected to deter a repeat this year                 ASSOCIATED PRESS -An Arizona grand jury's indictment of 18 republicans who either posed as or helped organize a slate of electors falsely claiming that former President Trump won the state in 2020 could help shape the landscape of challenges to the 2024 election. The indictment issued Wednesday is part of a campaign to deter a repeat of 2020, when Trump and his Republican accomplices falsely claimed he won swing states, filed dozens of lawsuits unsuccessfully challenging Joe Biden's victory and tried to get Congress to let Trump stay in power. That campaign culminated with the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the U.S. Capitol. lock them up   lock them up
    an_cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Charges against Trump's 2020 'fake electors' are expected to deter a repeat this year                 ASSOCIATED PRESS -An Arizona grand jury's indictment of 18 republicans who either posed as or helped organize a slate of electors falsely claiming that former President Trump won the state in 2020 could help shape the landscape of challenges to the 2024 election. The indictment issued Wednesday is part of a campaign to deter a repeat of 2020, when Trump and his Republican accomplices falsely claimed he won swing states, filed dozens of lawsuits unsuccessfully challenging Joe Biden's victory and tried to get Congress to let Trump stay in power. That campaign culminated with the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the U.S. Capitol. lock them up   lock them up
    an_cheers

     
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    Posted: Apr. 27, 2024 - 11:42 AM ET #30

    Indictments in GOP’s fake elector scandal reach new heights

     

    The Republican efforts to overturn the results of the 2020 presidential election were multifaceted, but among the striking partisan tactics was the fake electors scheme: GOP officials and operatives in key states created forged election materials and sent the documents to, among others, the U.S. Senate and the U.S. Archivist, as if the materials were legitimate. They were not.

    Though the relevant players didn’t know it at the time, the controversy has become one of the most consequential political scandals in a generation, racking up indictment totals unseen since Watergate and Iran-Contra.

     

    - MSM

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    Indictments in GOP’s fake elector scandal reach new heights

     

    The Republican efforts to overturn the results of the 2020 presidential election were multifaceted, but among the striking partisan tactics was the fake electors scheme: GOP officials and operatives in key states created forged election materials and sent the documents to, among others, the U.S. Senate and the U.S. Archivist, as if the materials were legitimate. They were not.

    Though the relevant players didn’t know it at the time, the controversy has become one of the most consequential political scandals in a generation, racking up indictment totals unseen since Watergate and Iran-Contra.

     

    - MSM

     
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    Posted: Apr. 27, 2024 - 1:58 PM ET #31

    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:

    Indictments in GOP’s fake elector scandal reach new heights   The Republican efforts to overturn the results of the 2020 presidential election were multifaceted, but among the striking partisan tactics was the fake electors scheme: GOP officials and operatives in key states created forged election materials and sent the documents to, among others, the U.S. Senate and the U.S. Archivist, as if the materials were legitimate. They were not. Though the relevant players didn’t know it at the time, the controversy has become one of the most consequential political scandals in a generation, racking up indictment totals unseen since Watergate and Iran-Contra.   - MSM

    The disgusting former president is described as “Unindicted Coconspirator 1” 

    Reply

    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:

    Indictments in GOP’s fake elector scandal reach new heights   The Republican efforts to overturn the results of the 2020 presidential election were multifaceted, but among the striking partisan tactics was the fake electors scheme: GOP officials and operatives in key states created forged election materials and sent the documents to, among others, the U.S. Senate and the U.S. Archivist, as if the materials were legitimate. They were not. Though the relevant players didn’t know it at the time, the controversy has become one of the most consequential political scandals in a generation, racking up indictment totals unseen since Watergate and Iran-Contra.   - MSM

    The disgusting former president is described as “Unindicted Coconspirator 1” 

     
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    Posted: Apr. 27, 2024 - 2:10 PM ET #32

    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:

    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par: Indictments in GOP’s fake elector scandal reach new heights   The Republican efforts to overturn the results of the 2020 presidential election were multifaceted, but among the striking partisan tactics was the fake electors scheme: GOP officials and operatives in key states created forged election materials and sent the documents to, among others, the U.S. Senate and the U.S. Archivist, as if the materials were legitimate. They were not. Though the relevant players didn’t know it at the time, the controversy has become one of the most consequential political scandals in a generation, racking up indictment totals unseen since Watergate and Iran-Contra.   - MSM The disgusting former president is described as “Unindicted Coconspirator 1”
        ahhh    so now we know that curious detail !! peace_5

     

     

    "I'm the MOST HONEST human being that GOD EVER created!" - Donald "the felon" Trump
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:

    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par: Indictments in GOP’s fake elector scandal reach new heights   The Republican efforts to overturn the results of the 2020 presidential election were multifaceted, but among the striking partisan tactics was the fake electors scheme: GOP officials and operatives in key states created forged election materials and sent the documents to, among others, the U.S. Senate and the U.S. Archivist, as if the materials were legitimate. They were not. Though the relevant players didn’t know it at the time, the controversy has become one of the most consequential political scandals in a generation, racking up indictment totals unseen since Watergate and Iran-Contra.   - MSM The disgusting former president is described as “Unindicted Coconspirator 1”
        ahhh    so now we know that curious detail !! peace_5

     

     

     
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    Posted: Apr. 27, 2024 - 2:56 PM ET #33

    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:

    The disgusting former president is described as “Unindicted Coconspirator 1”

    As NBC News’ report noted, the Arizona indictment also described a variety of prominent Republican figures who’ve not yet been served and whose names are redacted.

    We should be getting the names of those criminal GOP accomplices soon enough

    Reply

    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:

    The disgusting former president is described as “Unindicted Coconspirator 1”

    As NBC News’ report noted, the Arizona indictment also described a variety of prominent Republican figures who’ve not yet been served and whose names are redacted.

    We should be getting the names of those criminal GOP accomplices soon enough

     
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    Posted: Apr. 27, 2024 - 3:12 PM ET #34

    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:

    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par: The disgusting former president is described as “Unindicted Coconspirator 1” As NBC News’ report noted, the Arizona indictment also described a variety of prominent Republican figures who’ve not yet been served and whose names are redacted. We should be getting the names of those criminal GOP accomplices soon enough

    i think its 10 or 11 more corrupt republicans  at least   that r not named   yet

     

    "I'm the MOST HONEST human being that GOD EVER created!" - Donald "the felon" Trump
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:

    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par: The disgusting former president is described as “Unindicted Coconspirator 1” As NBC News’ report noted, the Arizona indictment also described a variety of prominent Republican figures who’ve not yet been served and whose names are redacted. We should be getting the names of those criminal GOP accomplices soon enough

    i think its 10 or 11 more corrupt republicans  at least   that r not named   yet

     

     
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    Posted: Apr. 27, 2024 - 3:17 PM ET #35

    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:

    Indictments in GOP’s fake elector scandal reach new heights   The Republican efforts to overturn the results of the 2020 presidential election were multifaceted, but among the striking partisan tactics was the fake electors scheme: GOP officials and operatives in key states created forged election materials and sent the documents to, among others, the U.S. Senate and the U.S. Archivist, as if the materials were legitimate. They were not. Though the relevant players didn’t know it at the time, the controversy has become one of the most consequential political scandals in a generation, racking up indictment totals unseen since Watergate and Iran-Contra.   - MSM

    michigan knee deep in this  republican fraud too  an_speechless

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:

    Indictments in GOP’s fake elector scandal reach new heights   The Republican efforts to overturn the results of the 2020 presidential election were multifaceted, but among the striking partisan tactics was the fake electors scheme: GOP officials and operatives in key states created forged election materials and sent the documents to, among others, the U.S. Senate and the U.S. Archivist, as if the materials were legitimate. They were not. Though the relevant players didn’t know it at the time, the controversy has become one of the most consequential political scandals in a generation, racking up indictment totals unseen since Watergate and Iran-Contra.   - MSM

    michigan knee deep in this  republican fraud too  an_speechless

     

     

     
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    Posted: Apr. 27, 2024 - 3:17 PM ET #36

    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:

    Indictments in GOP’s fake elector scandal reach new heights   The Republican efforts to overturn the results of the 2020 presidential election were multifaceted, but among the striking partisan tactics was the fake electors scheme: GOP officials and operatives in key states created forged election materials and sent the documents to, among others, the U.S. Senate and the U.S. Archivist, as if the materials were legitimate. They were not. Though the relevant players didn’t know it at the time, the controversy has become one of the most consequential political scandals in a generation, racking up indictment totals unseen since Watergate and Iran-Contra.   - MSM

    michigan knee deep in this  republican fraud too  an_speechless

     

     

    "I'm the MOST HONEST human being that GOD EVER created!" - Donald "the felon" Trump
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:

    Indictments in GOP’s fake elector scandal reach new heights   The Republican efforts to overturn the results of the 2020 presidential election were multifaceted, but among the striking partisan tactics was the fake electors scheme: GOP officials and operatives in key states created forged election materials and sent the documents to, among others, the U.S. Senate and the U.S. Archivist, as if the materials were legitimate. They were not. Though the relevant players didn’t know it at the time, the controversy has become one of the most consequential political scandals in a generation, racking up indictment totals unseen since Watergate and Iran-Contra.   - MSM

    michigan knee deep in this  republican fraud too  an_speechless

     

     

     
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    Posted: Apr. 27, 2024 - 7:20 PM ET #37

    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:

    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par: The disgusting former president is described as “Unindicted Coconspirator 1”

    As NBC News’ report noted, the Arizona indictment also described a variety of prominent Republican figures who’ve not yet been served and whose names are redacted. We should be getting the names of those criminal GOP accomplices soon enough

    @Zeus4par

     Republican stress levels in AZ rising as we speak, I would think.

                                         an_popcorn

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:

    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par: The disgusting former president is described as “Unindicted Coconspirator 1”

    As NBC News’ report noted, the Arizona indictment also described a variety of prominent Republican figures who’ve not yet been served and whose names are redacted. We should be getting the names of those criminal GOP accomplices soon enough

    @Zeus4par

     Republican stress levels in AZ rising as we speak, I would think.

                                         an_popcorn

     
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    Posted: Apr. 27, 2024 - 7:43 PM ET #38

    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Charges against Trump's 2020 'fake electors' are expected to deter a repeat this year                 ASSOCIATED PRESS -An Arizona grand jury's indictment of 18 republicans who either posed as or helped organize a slate of electors falsely claiming that former President Trump won the state in 2020 could help shape the landscape of challenges to the 2024 election. We have to hope the republicans will not be successful in cheating this election

    "Remember Red, HOPE is a wonderful thing"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Charges against Trump's 2020 'fake electors' are expected to deter a repeat this year                 ASSOCIATED PRESS -An Arizona grand jury's indictment of 18 republicans who either posed as or helped organize a slate of electors falsely claiming that former President Trump won the state in 2020 could help shape the landscape of challenges to the 2024 election. We have to hope the republicans will not be successful in cheating this election

    "Remember Red, HOPE is a wonderful thing"

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:

    Indictments in GOP’s fake elector scandal reach new heights   The Republican efforts to overturn the results of the 2020 presidential election were multifaceted, but among the striking partisan tactics was the fake electors scheme: GOP officials and operatives in key states created forged election materials and sent the documents to, among others, the U.S. Senate and the U.S. Archivist, as if the materials were legitimate. They were not. Though the relevant players didn’t know it at the time, the controversy has become one of the most consequential political scandals in a generation, racking up indictment totals unseen since Watergate and Iran-Contra.   - MSM
    Ironically trump's accomplices are likely facing prison sentences.....while the kingpin won't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:

    Indictments in GOP’s fake elector scandal reach new heights   The Republican efforts to overturn the results of the 2020 presidential election were multifaceted, but among the striking partisan tactics was the fake electors scheme: GOP officials and operatives in key states created forged election materials and sent the documents to, among others, the U.S. Senate and the U.S. Archivist, as if the materials were legitimate. They were not. Though the relevant players didn’t know it at the time, the controversy has become one of the most consequential political scandals in a generation, racking up indictment totals unseen since Watergate and Iran-Contra.   - MSM
    Ironically trump's accomplices are likely facing prison sentences.....while the kingpin won't.

     
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    Posted: Apr. 28, 2024 - 11:16 AM ET #40

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par: Indictments in GOP’s fake elector scandal reach new heights   The Republican efforts to overturn the results of the 2020 presidential election were multifaceted, but among the striking partisan tactics was the fake electors scheme: GOP officials and operatives in key states created forged election materials and sent the documents to, among others, the U.S. Senate and the U.S. Archivist, as if the materials were legitimate. They were not. Though the relevant players didn’t know it at the time, the controversy has become one of the most consequential political scandals in a generation, racking up indictment totals unseen since Watergate and Iran-Contra.   - MSM

     

    Ironically trump's accomplices are likely facing prison sentences.....while the kingpin won't.

    travesty of injustice ??

     

     

    "I'm the MOST HONEST human being that GOD EVER created!" - Donald "the felon" Trump
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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par: Indictments in GOP’s fake elector scandal reach new heights   The Republican efforts to overturn the results of the 2020 presidential election were multifaceted, but among the striking partisan tactics was the fake electors scheme: GOP officials and operatives in key states created forged election materials and sent the documents to, among others, the U.S. Senate and the U.S. Archivist, as if the materials were legitimate. They were not. Though the relevant players didn’t know it at the time, the controversy has become one of the most consequential political scandals in a generation, racking up indictment totals unseen since Watergate and Iran-Contra.   - MSM

     

    Ironically trump's accomplices are likely facing prison sentences.....while the kingpin won't.

    travesty of injustice ??

     

     

     
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    Posted: Apr. 28, 2024 - 6:49 PM ET #41

    (*thanks to Thirdperson for bringing this news to light earlier)

    Trump is a co-conspirator in Michigan fake electors case, agent testifies

                an_beatup

    Detroit Free Press -
    Testimony offered in court Wednesday contended
    former President Donald Trump and several of his
    key accomplices are unindicted co-conspirators
    in the sprawling case of 15 individuals charged
    with a series of felonies for attempting to falsely cast
    Michigan's electoral votes in the 2020 election for Trump,
    who lost the state to Joe Biden by more than 154,000 votes. an_light

     

    Special agent Howard Shock, testified in a pre-trial hearing
    that Trump and others were unindicted co-conspirators.

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    (*thanks to Thirdperson for bringing this news to light earlier)

    Trump is a co-conspirator in Michigan fake electors case, agent testifies

                an_beatup

    Detroit Free Press -
    Testimony offered in court Wednesday contended
    former President Donald Trump and several of his
    key accomplices are unindicted co-conspirators
    in the sprawling case of 15 individuals charged
    with a series of felonies for attempting to falsely cast
    Michigan's electoral votes in the 2020 election for Trump,
    who lost the state to Joe Biden by more than 154,000 votes. an_light

     

    Special agent Howard Shock, testified in a pre-trial hearing
    that Trump and others were unindicted co-conspirators.

     
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    Posted: Apr. 28, 2024 - 7:05 PM ET #42

    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par: Indictments in GOP’s fake elector scandal reach new heights   The Republican efforts to overturn the results of the 2020 presidential election were multifaceted, but among the striking partisan tactics was the fake electors scheme: GOP officials and operatives in key states created forged election materials and sent the documents to, among others, the U.S. Senate and the U.S. Archivist, as if the materials were legitimate. They were not. Though the relevant players didn’t know it at the time, the controversy has become one of the most consequential political scandals in a generation, racking up indictment totals unseen since Watergate and Iran-Contra.   - MSM   Ironically trump's accomplices are likely facing prison sentences.....while the kingpin won't. travesty of injustice ??

    @KellyM_1964

     It does seem apparent, yes.

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par: Indictments in GOP’s fake elector scandal reach new heights   The Republican efforts to overturn the results of the 2020 presidential election were multifaceted, but among the striking partisan tactics was the fake electors scheme: GOP officials and operatives in key states created forged election materials and sent the documents to, among others, the U.S. Senate and the U.S. Archivist, as if the materials were legitimate. They were not. Though the relevant players didn’t know it at the time, the controversy has become one of the most consequential political scandals in a generation, racking up indictment totals unseen since Watergate and Iran-Contra.   - MSM   Ironically trump's accomplices are likely facing prison sentences.....while the kingpin won't. travesty of injustice ??

    @KellyM_1964

     It does seem apparent, yes.

     

     
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    Posted: Apr. 28, 2024 - 8:02 PM ET #43

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    (*thanks to Thirdperson for bringing this news to light earlier)

    Trump is a co-conspirator in Michigan fake electors case, agent testifies            

    Detroit Free Press -Testimony offered in court Wednesday contended former President Donald Trump and several of his key accomplices are unindicted co-conspirators in the sprawling case of 15 individuals charged with a series of felonies for attempting to falsely cast Michigan's electoral votes in the 2020 election for Trump, who lost the state to Joe Biden by more than 154,000 votes.   Special agent Howard Shock, testified in a pre-trial hearing that Trump and others were unindicted co-conspirators.

    Shock's testimony Wednesday resumed the ongoing preliminary examination hearings in Ingham County's 54A District Court for some of the so-called fake electors, who face felony charges after attempting to cast electoral votes for Trump in 2020.

    Following the conclusion of preliminary exams, District Judge Kristen Simmons will rule if there is enough evidence to send the group to a jury trial.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    (*thanks to Thirdperson for bringing this news to light earlier)

    Trump is a co-conspirator in Michigan fake electors case, agent testifies            

    Detroit Free Press -Testimony offered in court Wednesday contended former President Donald Trump and several of his key accomplices are unindicted co-conspirators in the sprawling case of 15 individuals charged with a series of felonies for attempting to falsely cast Michigan's electoral votes in the 2020 election for Trump, who lost the state to Joe Biden by more than 154,000 votes.   Special agent Howard Shock, testified in a pre-trial hearing that Trump and others were unindicted co-conspirators.

    Shock's testimony Wednesday resumed the ongoing preliminary examination hearings in Ingham County's 54A District Court for some of the so-called fake electors, who face felony charges after attempting to cast electoral votes for Trump in 2020.

    Following the conclusion of preliminary exams, District Judge Kristen Simmons will rule if there is enough evidence to send the group to a jury trial.

     
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    Posted: Apr. 29, 2024 - 4:07 AM ET #44

    Media matters reveal that right wing media is trying to pretend illegal fake elector scheme is legal.  They try to downplay indictments severity.  They use false comparisons and debunked claims to defend those indicted in false elector scheme.  If conspiracy to falsify 2020 election results succeeded, the will of millions of voters would be denied and legal transfer of power would be prevented.  Democracy depends on informed voters but misinformation threatens  that.

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    Media matters reveal that right wing media is trying to pretend illegal fake elector scheme is legal.  They try to downplay indictments severity.  They use false comparisons and debunked claims to defend those indicted in false elector scheme.  If conspiracy to falsify 2020 election results succeeded, the will of millions of voters would be denied and legal transfer of power would be prevented.  Democracy depends on informed voters but misinformation threatens  that.

     
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    Posted: Apr. 29, 2024 - 11:05 AM ET #45

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Media Matters reveal that right wing media is trying to pretend illegal fake elector scheme is legal.
    Then whichever right wing media is doing that is wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Media Matters reveal that right wing media is trying to pretend illegal fake elector scheme is legal.
    Then whichever right wing media is doing that is wrong.

     
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    Posted: Apr. 29, 2024 - 11:32 AM ET #46

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Media Matters reveal that right wing media is trying to pretend illegal fake elector scheme is legal. Then whichever right wing media is doing that is wrong.
    media matters is reputable  

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Media Matters reveal that right wing media is trying to pretend illegal fake elector scheme is legal. Then whichever right wing media is doing that is wrong.
    media matters is reputable  

     
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    Posted: Apr. 29, 2024 - 12:32 PM ET #47

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Media matters reveal that right wing media is trying to pretend illegal fake elector scheme is legal.  They try to downplay indictments severity.  They use false comparisons and debunked claims to defend those indicted in false elector scheme.  If conspiracy to falsify 2020 election results succeeded, the will of millions of voters would be denied and legal transfer of power would be prevented.  Democracy depends on informed voters but misinformation threatens  that.
      thats fraud !! an_arsed

     

    "I'm the MOST HONEST human being that GOD EVER created!" - Donald "the felon" Trump
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Media matters reveal that right wing media is trying to pretend illegal fake elector scheme is legal.  They try to downplay indictments severity.  They use false comparisons and debunked claims to defend those indicted in false elector scheme.  If conspiracy to falsify 2020 election results succeeded, the will of millions of voters would be denied and legal transfer of power would be prevented.  Democracy depends on informed voters but misinformation threatens  that.
      thats fraud !! an_arsed

     

     
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    Posted: Apr. 29, 2024 - 12:47 PM ET #48

    Little Petey Navarrow's 2nd appreal to get out of prison was denied. That was his last kick at the can.

    Get comfy Petey you little scumbag.

    an_clap

     

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    Little Petey Navarrow's 2nd appreal to get out of prison was denied. That was his last kick at the can.

    Get comfy Petey you little scumbag.

    an_clap

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    Little Petey Navarrow's 2nd appreal to get out of prison was denied. That was his last kick at the can. Get comfy Petey you little scumbag.
      awww thats a shame  an_cry

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    Little Petey Navarrow's 2nd appreal to get out of prison was denied. That was his last kick at the can. Get comfy Petey you little scumbag.
      awww thats a shame  an_cry

     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Media matters reveal that right wing media is trying to pretend illegal fake elector scheme is legal.  They try to downplay indictments severity.  They use false comparisons and debunked claims to defend those indicted in false elector scheme.  If conspiracy to falsify 2020 election results succeeded, the will of millions of voters would be denied and legal transfer of power would be prevented.  Democracy depends on informed voters but misinformation threatens  that.

    “Defendants deceived the citizens of Arizona by
    falsely claiming that those votes were contingent
    only on a legal challenge that would change the
    outcome of the election,”  the indictment continues.


    “In reality, Defendants intended that their false votes
    for Trump-Pence would encourage Pence to reject
    the Biden-Harris votes on January 6, 2021,
    regardless of the outcome of the legal challenge.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Media matters reveal that right wing media is trying to pretend illegal fake elector scheme is legal.  They try to downplay indictments severity.  They use false comparisons and debunked claims to defend those indicted in false elector scheme.  If conspiracy to falsify 2020 election results succeeded, the will of millions of voters would be denied and legal transfer of power would be prevented.  Democracy depends on informed voters but misinformation threatens  that.

    “Defendants deceived the citizens of Arizona by
    falsely claiming that those votes were contingent
    only on a legal challenge that would change the
    outcome of the election,”  the indictment continues.


    “In reality, Defendants intended that their false votes
    for Trump-Pence would encourage Pence to reject
    the Biden-Harris votes on January 6, 2021,
    regardless of the outcome of the legal challenge.”

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