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    Posted: Jan. 23, 2019 - 10:00 AM ET #26

    Quote Originally Posted by KeyElement:

    It has been "painstakingly slow" for 70 years and you do not yet have a settlement in your pocket. Don't count your chickens before they hatch. With the protection of China, Kim can continue to play this game another 70 years if he lives that long. Don't kid yourself about the peninsula, China would let Kim take the initial hit and then "rescue" N.K. by overrunning the whole peninsula. China may not even accept a revolution overthrowing Kim and uniting with the South. They are not giving up one square inch of N.K.
    I believe President Moon's statement,"“This is the first opportunity that has been presented to us in 65 years since the end of the Korean War in 1953, and one that may never come again. We must take advantage of this opportunity, no matter what. We must take this opportunity and peacefully resolve the North Korean nuclear issue,” he urged. "

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    Quote Originally Posted by KeyElement:

    It has been "painstakingly slow" for 70 years and you do not yet have a settlement in your pocket. Don't count your chickens before they hatch. With the protection of China, Kim can continue to play this game another 70 years if he lives that long. Don't kid yourself about the peninsula, China would let Kim take the initial hit and then "rescue" N.K. by overrunning the whole peninsula. China may not even accept a revolution overthrowing Kim and uniting with the South. They are not giving up one square inch of N.K.
    I believe President Moon's statement,"“This is the first opportunity that has been presented to us in 65 years since the end of the Korean War in 1953, and one that may never come again. We must take advantage of this opportunity, no matter what. We must take this opportunity and peacefully resolve the North Korean nuclear issue,” he urged. "

     
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    Posted: Jan. 23, 2019 - 10:04 AM ET #27

    of the six party talks, Putin is an inmovable in Russia xi in china moon in south korea kim in north korea and abe in Japan the only one with any vulnerabilitiues is Trump in Washington. sooo the deep state, the unseen hand that keeps population in check, has got to target Trump here. 

    we have a population of 8, billion souls. this population could be reproduced in 30 generations if two people had four kids. so that unseen force is needed where stuck on this god forsaken rock where something must die for something to eat.

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    of the six party talks, Putin is an inmovable in Russia xi in china moon in south korea kim in north korea and abe in Japan the only one with any vulnerabilitiues is Trump in Washington. sooo the deep state, the unseen hand that keeps population in check, has got to target Trump here. 

    we have a population of 8, billion souls. this population could be reproduced in 30 generations if two people had four kids. so that unseen force is needed where stuck on this god forsaken rock where something must die for something to eat.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 23, 2019 - 11:33 AM ET #28

    we have a population of 8, billion souls. this population could be reproduced in 30 generations if two people had four kids

    see genesis chapter 5-6 adam lived for a thousand years. human reproductive system allows for fourteen year olds to produce children

    the growth before the flood left within a 1000 year life span produced gensis 6:6 with help from the 'sons" of god. God promises he wont flood it hell he will burn it next time.

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    we have a population of 8, billion souls. this population could be reproduced in 30 generations if two people had four kids

    see genesis chapter 5-6 adam lived for a thousand years. human reproductive system allows for fourteen year olds to produce children

    the growth before the flood left within a 1000 year life span produced gensis 6:6 with help from the 'sons" of god. God promises he wont flood it hell he will burn it next time.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 23, 2019 - 12:47 PM ET #29

    We don't need God's help to destroy the earth. We are doing a pretty good job all by ourselves.

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    We don't need God's help to destroy the earth. We are doing a pretty good job all by ourselves.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 25, 2019 - 12:22 AM ET #30

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    We don't need God's help to destroy the earth. We are doing a pretty good job all by ourselves.
    it is sad, but it is possible this planet is the only place humans dwell.

    Replenish the earths? We can't even walk on the moon anymore. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    We don't need God's help to destroy the earth. We are doing a pretty good job all by ourselves.
    it is sad, but it is possible this planet is the only place humans dwell.

    Replenish the earths? We can't even walk on the moon anymore. 

     
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    Posted: Jan. 29, 2019 - 11:04 PM ET #31

    Japan prime minister Shizo Abe has made clear he plans to restart North Korea. He states he and to meet with Kim to reestablish Diplomatic relations between the two nations...

    Deep states response  Spy chief contradicts the white house will give up nuclear arsenal as the via leaked the intentions of Moscow to provide a nuclear reactor for exchange of dismantling nuclear arsenal. Russia will not respond to latest Washington propaganda. .

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    Japan prime minister Shizo Abe has made clear he plans to restart North Korea. He states he and to meet with Kim to reestablish Diplomatic relations between the two nations...

    Deep states response  Spy chief contradicts the white house will give up nuclear arsenal as the via leaked the intentions of Moscow to provide a nuclear reactor for exchange of dismantling nuclear arsenal. Russia will not respond to latest Washington propaganda. .

     
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    Posted: Jan. 30, 2019 - 1:14 PM ET #32

    Russian need rrsponfd talks with North Korea will continue with or without the Americans. 

    The world should not wait for Washington in discussing removing nuclear weapons buy we welcome the Americans in these discussions. 

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    Russian need rrsponfd talks with North Korea will continue with or without the Americans. 

    The world should not wait for Washington in discussing removing nuclear weapons buy we welcome the Americans in these discussions. 

     
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    Posted: Feb. 14, 2019 - 9:48 AM ET #33

    Vietnam 24-28 North Korea  and US summit at the heads of state kevel. Possibility that a Peace treaty signing ceremony is now upgraded to probable. 

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    Vietnam 24-28 North Korea  and US summit at the heads of state kevel. Possibility that a Peace treaty signing ceremony is now upgraded to probable. 

     
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    Posted: Feb. 21, 2019 - 12:50 AM ET #34

    Kim Chol  was seen in Bejing and is headed to Hanoi Vietnam to meet with Beijun ahead of the Trump Kim summit reports afp.  Seoulbreports ending the Korean war is on the table. 

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    Kim Chol  was seen in Bejing and is headed to Hanoi Vietnam to meet with Beijun ahead of the Trump Kim summit reports afp.  Seoulbreports ending the Korean war is on the table. 

     
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    Posted: Feb. 22, 2019 - 7:01 PM ET #35

    CBS news coverage of this historical summit begins Monday..... 

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    CBS news coverage of this historical summit begins Monday..... 

     
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    Posted: Feb. 22, 2019 - 8:29 PM ET #36

    Vietnam embraces the landmark summit with KIm Jong Ale..Rocket man T-shirts and Trump and Kim themed hair cuts..

    https://www.foxnews.com/world/kim-jong-ale-rocket-man-t-shirts-and-trump-themed-haircuts-vietnam-embraces-landmark-summit?cmpid=prn_msn
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    Vietnam embraces the landmark summit with KIm Jong Ale..Rocket man T-shirts and Trump and Kim themed hair cuts..

    https://www.foxnews.com/world/kim-jong-ale-rocket-man-t-shirts-and-trump-themed-haircuts-vietnam-embraces-landmark-summit?cmpid=prn_msn
     
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    Posted: Mar. 1, 2019 - 10:57 AM ET #37

    Trump-Kim summit turns into the art of no deal as talks collapse.  No surprise of failure since Trump ignores US intelligence and North korea's history of repeatedly breaking denuclearization promises.

    Normally, international deals are supposed to be pre-baked by negotiating teams before meeting of leaders.  Instead there is lack of preparation under Trump's doomed top-down approach.

    Trump is a deal breaker and not a deal maker.  Without good reasons, he has abandoned Iran nuclear deal, Paris accord, Trans pacific partnership and NAFTA. 
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    Trump-Kim summit turns into the art of no deal as talks collapse.  No surprise of failure since Trump ignores US intelligence and North korea's history of repeatedly breaking denuclearization promises.

    Normally, international deals are supposed to be pre-baked by negotiating teams before meeting of leaders.  Instead there is lack of preparation under Trump's doomed top-down approach.

    Trump is a deal breaker and not a deal maker.  Without good reasons, he has abandoned Iran nuclear deal, Paris accord, Trans pacific partnership and NAFTA. 
     
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    Posted: Mar. 1, 2019 - 11:24 AM ET #38

    President Trump  won praise from lawmakers in both parties for walking away ..from the North Korea deal..

    Unlike Neville Chamberlain who couldn't walk away from a bad deal with Hittler...President Trump said "Sometimes you have to walk and this was just one of those times,”

    Former Vice President Joe Biden praises President Donald Trump saying he was  right to walk away from the second summit with North Korea.

    President Trump regained leverage over China in trade talks by not making a bad deal with NOK...  showing the US will stand it's ground and reject deals that do not live up to it's expectations..
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    President Trump  won praise from lawmakers in both parties for walking away ..from the North Korea deal..

    Unlike Neville Chamberlain who couldn't walk away from a bad deal with Hittler...President Trump said "Sometimes you have to walk and this was just one of those times,”

    Former Vice President Joe Biden praises President Donald Trump saying he was  right to walk away from the second summit with North Korea.

    President Trump regained leverage over China in trade talks by not making a bad deal with NOK...  showing the US will stand it's ground and reject deals that do not live up to it's expectations..
     
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    Posted: Mar. 1, 2019 - 11:44 AM ET #39

    He defended Un's role in the death of an American citizen and in essence a brutal regime.

    "He tells me he didn't do it & I take him at his word." Just like Putin telling his Russia they didn't screw with the election & that North Korea doesn't have missiles that can reach the US.

    Sad. That I can tell you. Believe me.

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    He defended Un's role in the death of an American citizen and in essence a brutal regime.

    "He tells me he didn't do it & I take him at his word." Just like Putin telling his Russia they didn't screw with the election & that North Korea doesn't have missiles that can reach the US.

    Sad. That I can tell you. Believe me.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 1, 2019 - 6:27 PM ET #40

    Well, I'm only going to chime in on this subject because I formed a strong opinion a while ago about it.  I basically said that it doesn't matter if Trump brokered a deal with North Korea.  He technically made the world less secure and created more danger by exiting the Iran Deal.  Iran is a bigger world player than North Korea.  Their nuclear capabilities are ahead of them, too.  They have greater potential to use something that could be effective.  Yes, that deal was just temporary but it made sense to prevent Iran from being aggressive right now.  They are much more dangerous than North Korea and they're the key cog in the Middle East.  You don't want them going down that path.  I think any reasonable person would agree.  Trump has exacerbated the situation and the rest of the world has tried to scramble to stop that from happening. 
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    Well, I'm only going to chime in on this subject because I formed a strong opinion a while ago about it.  I basically said that it doesn't matter if Trump brokered a deal with North Korea.  He technically made the world less secure and created more danger by exiting the Iran Deal.  Iran is a bigger world player than North Korea.  Their nuclear capabilities are ahead of them, too.  They have greater potential to use something that could be effective.  Yes, that deal was just temporary but it made sense to prevent Iran from being aggressive right now.  They are much more dangerous than North Korea and they're the key cog in the Middle East.  You don't want them going down that path.  I think any reasonable person would agree.  Trump has exacerbated the situation and the rest of the world has tried to scramble to stop that from happening. 
     
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    Posted: Mar. 8, 2019 - 3:01 AM ET #41

    The deal probably coward Kelly ornkillary  would of jumped at was the end of.the war and sanctions for dimanteling the Hong Kong reactor. It was a terrible deal. I am disappointed.  But dialogue continues between south Korea and North Korean counterparts,  the next summit will be held at the truce city in South Korea. It is possible that only south Korea and North Korea will be attending this dialogue.  As the two nations plans are to restart a joint venture factory.  

    I place the blame on the press. Their over echo that Trump was desperate for a win played the north to over play theirhand..

    Russia China USA Japan and south Korea do not want a nuclear armed peninsula.  North Korea will most likely go back to Russia .to further negotiate the Soviet deal offered. 

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    The deal probably coward Kelly ornkillary  would of jumped at was the end of.the war and sanctions for dimanteling the Hong Kong reactor. It was a terrible deal. I am disappointed.  But dialogue continues between south Korea and North Korean counterparts,  the next summit will be held at the truce city in South Korea. It is possible that only south Korea and North Korea will be attending this dialogue.  As the two nations plans are to restart a joint venture factory.  

    I place the blame on the press. Their over echo that Trump was desperate for a win played the north to over play theirhand..

    Russia China USA Japan and south Korea do not want a nuclear armed peninsula.  North Korea will most likely go back to Russia .to further negotiate the Soviet deal offered. 

     
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    Posted: Apr. 16, 2019 - 6:22 PM ET #42

    Deep states interfered with this summit yes CIA blown OP sent a American led team into Spain to sack the North Korea embassy while trump and Jim met in Vietnam.  Spanish authorities have issued arrest warrants for the members of this group the leader a south Korean born us citizen that gave the stolen hard drives to the FBI is under an interpol indictment us refused to exteadict him. As the us government officials deny any knowledge of these citizens....

    You cant let your eyes off these for second bunch of back stabbing.... anyway grrr take years to rebuild that lost opportunity.  

    Ref indictments Spanish court of criminal investigation. 

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    Deep states interfered with this summit yes CIA blown OP sent a American led team into Spain to sack the North Korea embassy while trump and Jim met in Vietnam.  Spanish authorities have issued arrest warrants for the members of this group the leader a south Korean born us citizen that gave the stolen hard drives to the FBI is under an interpol indictment us refused to exteadict him. As the us government officials deny any knowledge of these citizens....

    You cant let your eyes off these for second bunch of back stabbing.... anyway grrr take years to rebuild that lost opportunity.  

    Ref indictments Spanish court of criminal investigation. 

     
     
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    Posted: Apr. 16, 2019 - 6:23 PM ET #43

    North Korean embassy theft and burglary. 

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    North Korean embassy theft and burglary. 

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