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    Posted: Nov. 29, 2018 - 8:48 AM ET #26

    Quote Originally Posted by darkhorse12:

    Quote Originally Posted by sundance:

    I am shocked the MSM did not compare the use of tear gas to Janet Reno burning children alive in Waco!
    So are you giving trump a pass for bombing starving kids in Yemen?

    an_shake You weren't concerned about Yemen when Obama was drone striking them or Libya.

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    Quote Originally Posted by darkhorse12:

    Quote Originally Posted by sundance:

    I am shocked the MSM did not compare the use of tear gas to Janet Reno burning children alive in Waco!
    So are you giving trump a pass for bombing starving kids in Yemen?

    an_shake You weren't concerned about Yemen when Obama was drone striking them or Libya.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 29, 2018 - 8:51 AM ET #27

    Quote Originally Posted by darkhorse12:

    Quote Originally Posted by sundance:

    I am shocked the MSM did not compare the use of tear gas to Janet Reno burning children alive in Waco!
    So are you giving trump a pass for bombing starving kids in Yemen?

    My bad forgot if Democrat does it it's good but bad if Republican does it clover

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    Quote Originally Posted by darkhorse12:

    Quote Originally Posted by sundance:

    I am shocked the MSM did not compare the use of tear gas to Janet Reno burning children alive in Waco!
    So are you giving trump a pass for bombing starving kids in Yemen?

    My bad forgot if Democrat does it it's good but bad if Republican does it clover

     
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    Posted: Nov. 29, 2018 - 9:37 AM ET #28

    There was an MSNBC report of migrants saying they just wanted to go home. They were "told" it would be easy to gain entry. Now who would have told them such a thing?

     

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    There was an MSNBC report of migrants saying they just wanted to go home. They were "told" it would be easy to gain entry. Now who would have told them such a thing?

     

     
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    Posted: Nov. 29, 2018 - 10:00 AM ET #29

    Quote Originally Posted by HockeyTeeth:

    There was an MSNBC report of migrants saying they just wanted to go home. They were "told" it would be easy to gain entry. Now who would have told them such a thing?
    human traffickers. These "guides" sell s good story to those poor hapless souls to travel to America. 

     

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by HockeyTeeth:

    There was an MSNBC report of migrants saying they just wanted to go home. They were "told" it would be easy to gain entry. Now who would have told them such a thing?
    human traffickers. These "guides" sell s good story to those poor hapless souls to travel to America. 

     

     

     

     
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    Posted: Nov. 29, 2018 - 10:24 AM ET #30

    Quote Originally Posted by darkhorse12:

    You can go to any border and ask for asylum.

    On what grounds? In Canada we can purchase  ketchup flavoured potato chips, not sold in USA. Can a US citizen claim that they want to relocate to Canada because they like ketchup potato chips? There has to be grounds, legitimate reasons for granting asylum. 

    Lets look at one case...caravan migrant, Jose Villalobos-Jobel, 26 yr old MS-13 member. What is the basis for his asylum claim? You say let him in, give him a court date down the road? Is that correct?

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    Quote Originally Posted by darkhorse12:

    You can go to any border and ask for asylum.

    On what grounds? In Canada we can purchase  ketchup flavoured potato chips, not sold in USA. Can a US citizen claim that they want to relocate to Canada because they like ketchup potato chips? There has to be grounds, legitimate reasons for granting asylum. 

    Lets look at one case...caravan migrant, Jose Villalobos-Jobel, 26 yr old MS-13 member. What is the basis for his asylum claim? You say let him in, give him a court date down the road? Is that correct?

     
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    Posted: Nov. 30, 2018 - 3:56 PM ET #31

    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    Quote Originally Posted by HockeyTeeth:

    There was an MSNBC report of migrants saying they just wanted to go home. They were "told" it would be easy to gain entry. Now who would have told them such a thing?
    human traffickers. These "guides" sell s good story to those poor hapless souls to travel to America.

    Close nature! It was Pueblo Sin Fronteras. An open borders advocacy group funded in part by globalist George Soros.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    Quote Originally Posted by HockeyTeeth:

    There was an MSNBC report of migrants saying they just wanted to go home. They were "told" it would be easy to gain entry. Now who would have told them such a thing?
    human traffickers. These "guides" sell s good story to those poor hapless souls to travel to America.

    Close nature! It was Pueblo Sin Fronteras. An open borders advocacy group funded in part by globalist George Soros.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 30, 2018 - 5:16 PM ET #32

    Quote Originally Posted by HockeyTeeth:

    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    Quote Originally Posted by HockeyTeeth:

    There was an MSNBC report of migrants saying they just wanted to go home. They were "told" it would be easy to gain entry. Now who would have told them such a thing?
    human traffickers. These "guides" sell s good story to those poor hapless souls to travel to America.
    Close nature! It was Pueblo Sin Fronteras. An open borders advocacy group funded in part by globalist George Soros.

    Do you have a legitimate news source that speaks to your comment?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HockeyTeeth:

    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    Quote Originally Posted by HockeyTeeth:

    There was an MSNBC report of migrants saying they just wanted to go home. They were "told" it would be easy to gain entry. Now who would have told them such a thing?
    human traffickers. These "guides" sell s good story to those poor hapless souls to travel to America.
    Close nature! It was Pueblo Sin Fronteras. An open borders advocacy group funded in part by globalist George Soros.

    Do you have a legitimate news source that speaks to your comment?

     
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    Posted: Nov. 30, 2018 - 5:27 PM ET #33

    The migrants are upset with the organization. They were used as pawns, they are upset with Pueblo Sin Fronteras. It is the migrants temselves saying this. Not a fake news story. 

    Ill try to find the article. 

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    The migrants are upset with the organization. They were used as pawns, they are upset with Pueblo Sin Fronteras. It is the migrants temselves saying this. Not a fake news story. 

    Ill try to find the article. 

     
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    Posted: Nov. 30, 2018 - 5:57 PM ET #34

    Quote Originally Posted by HockeyTeeth:

    The migrants are upset with the organization. They were used as pawns, they are upset with Pueblo Sin Fronteras. It is the migrants temselves saying this. Not a fake news story.  Ill try to find the article.

    I just read an article from the Mexico News Daily but don't know how credible it is. They report 350 of the 9,000+ have decided to go home because they didn't want to wait months in Mexico to get access to the US.

    I just don't see what was to be gained in lying to them. You know some people around the world still believe the streets of America are lined with gold.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HockeyTeeth:

    The migrants are upset with the organization. They were used as pawns, they are upset with Pueblo Sin Fronteras. It is the migrants temselves saying this. Not a fake news story.  Ill try to find the article.

    I just read an article from the Mexico News Daily but don't know how credible it is. They report 350 of the 9,000+ have decided to go home because they didn't want to wait months in Mexico to get access to the US.

    I just don't see what was to be gained in lying to them. You know some people around the world still believe the streets of America are lined with gold.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 30, 2018 - 8:44 PM ET #35

    midnight here it is. Breitbart

    https://www.breitbart.com/border/2018/11/30/caravan-organizers-promised-easy-u-s-asylum-say-departing-migrants/

     

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    midnight here it is. Breitbart

    https://www.breitbart.com/border/2018/11/30/caravan-organizers-promised-easy-u-s-asylum-say-departing-migrants/

     

     
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    Posted: Nov. 30, 2018 - 10:54 PM ET #36

    Quote Originally Posted by HockeyTeeth:

    midnight here it is. Breitbart https://www.breitbart.com/border/2018/11/30/caravan-organizers-promised-easy-u-s-asylum-say-departing-migrants/

    Thanks but Breibart is not a legitimate news source IMO. Frankly they are total BS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HockeyTeeth:

    midnight here it is. Breitbart https://www.breitbart.com/border/2018/11/30/caravan-organizers-promised-easy-u-s-asylum-say-departing-migrants/

    Thanks but Breibart is not a legitimate news source IMO. Frankly they are total BS.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 30, 2018 - 11:13 PM ET #37

    The article quotes actual migrants, the very people that were told they could gain easy access to the USA.

    Not asking you to follow Breitbart, if have any evidence that Breitbart fabricated the story and the quotes post a link. Ill read it, even if it is Wapo, NYT, CNN, NPR, MSNBC et al.

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    The article quotes actual migrants, the very people that were told they could gain easy access to the USA.

    Not asking you to follow Breitbart, if have any evidence that Breitbart fabricated the story and the quotes post a link. Ill read it, even if it is Wapo, NYT, CNN, NPR, MSNBC et al.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 30, 2018 - 11:19 PM ET #38

    an_smash

    ....damn 

    The Breitbart article references the quotes from a Mexico Daily News story. 

    Midnight,

    Q. What do you consider a legitimate news source. 

     

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    an_smash

    ....damn 

    The Breitbart article references the quotes from a Mexico Daily News story. 

    Midnight,

    Q. What do you consider a legitimate news source. 

     

     
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    Posted: Nov. 30, 2018 - 11:47 PM ET #39

    Quote Originally Posted by HockeyTeeth:

    ....damn  The Breitbart article references the quotes from a Mexico Daily News story.  Midnight, Q. What do you consider a legitimate news source.

    I trust local papers more than the national papers but USA Today comes to mind as a legit source. The AP is another, BBC is another & although I don't watch it as much as I had in the past, PBS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HockeyTeeth:

    ....damn  The Breitbart article references the quotes from a Mexico Daily News story.  Midnight, Q. What do you consider a legitimate news source.

    I trust local papers more than the national papers but USA Today comes to mind as a legit source. The AP is another, BBC is another & although I don't watch it as much as I had in the past, PBS.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 1, 2018 - 10:31 AM ET #40

    Quote Originally Posted by HockeyTeeth:

    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    Quote Originally Posted by HockeyTeeth:

    There was an MSNBC report of migrants saying they just wanted to go home. They were "told" it would be easy to gain entry. Now who would have told them such a thing?
    human traffickers. These "guides" sell s good story to those poor hapless souls to travel to America.
    Close nature! It was Pueblo Sin Fronteras. An open borders advocacy group funded in part by globalist George Soros.
    Soros was rumored to be part of the Pizza gate conspiracy but it does not make any sense.

    Soros has as much MONEY as Gates globally owning assets and his main thrust is political normalcy movements . Human Trafficker and the slave trade would destroy his political capital around the world. He has no agricultural property why the need for fruit pickers if you own no orchard?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HockeyTeeth:

    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    Quote Originally Posted by HockeyTeeth:

    There was an MSNBC report of migrants saying they just wanted to go home. They were "told" it would be easy to gain entry. Now who would have told them such a thing?
    human traffickers. These "guides" sell s good story to those poor hapless souls to travel to America.
    Close nature! It was Pueblo Sin Fronteras. An open borders advocacy group funded in part by globalist George Soros.
    Soros was rumored to be part of the Pizza gate conspiracy but it does not make any sense.

    Soros has as much MONEY as Gates globally owning assets and his main thrust is political normalcy movements . Human Trafficker and the slave trade would destroy his political capital around the world. He has no agricultural property why the need for fruit pickers if you own no orchard?

     
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    Posted: Dec. 1, 2018 - 1:11 PM ET #41

    Nature, George Soros funds a lot of open border advocacy groups. I'm not saying he is sitting in a big chair petting a white longhair cat while sending directives to the caravan organizers. Soros does fund Pueblos Sin Fronteras and its related organizations the paper trail is there. He is a progressive, the fruits of his orchard are found in the polling booths, not in your local produce section.

     

     

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    Nature, George Soros funds a lot of open border advocacy groups. I'm not saying he is sitting in a big chair petting a white longhair cat while sending directives to the caravan organizers. Soros does fund Pueblos Sin Fronteras and its related organizations the paper trail is there. He is a progressive, the fruits of his orchard are found in the polling booths, not in your local produce section.

     

     

     
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    Posted: Dec. 1, 2018 - 7:42 PM ET #42

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    I trust local papers more than the national papers but USA Today comes to mind as a legit source. The AP is another, BBC is another & although I don't watch it as much as I had in the past, PBS.


    USA Today? You must be joking... A liberal broke rag that gets smaller by the day, soon they'll print it on a pack of matches.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    I trust local papers more than the national papers but USA Today comes to mind as a legit source. The AP is another, BBC is another & although I don't watch it as much as I had in the past, PBS.


    USA Today? You must be joking... A liberal broke rag that gets smaller by the day, soon they'll print it on a pack of matches.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 1, 2018 - 9:11 PM ET #43

    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    [Politics] Topic: Border

     Migrants Seem Like Outstanding Potential  Citizens Democrats................

    Sounds good count me in ! 

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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    [Politics] Topic: Border

     Migrants Seem Like Outstanding Potential  Citizens Democrats................

    Sounds good count me in ! 

     
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    Any sightings of a Koch brother obituary or 2.  
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    Any sightings of a Koch brother obituary or 2.  
     
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    Posted: Dec. 1, 2018 - 10:25 PM ET #45

    Quote Originally Posted by Killer_B:

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    I trust local papers more than the national papers but USA Today comes to mind as a legit source. The AP is another, BBC is another & although I don't watch it as much as I had in the past, PBS.
    USA Today? You must be joking... A liberal broke rag that gets smaller by the day, soon they'll print it on a pack of matches.

    Besides the National Enquirer what else gets read to you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Killer_B:

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    I trust local papers more than the national papers but USA Today comes to mind as a legit source. The AP is another, BBC is another & although I don't watch it as much as I had in the past, PBS.
    USA Today? You must be joking... A liberal broke rag that gets smaller by the day, soon they'll print it on a pack of matches.

    Besides the National Enquirer what else gets read to you?

     
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    Posted: Dec. 2, 2018 - 12:14 AM ET #46

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

     Breibart is not a legitimate news source IMO. Frankly they are total BS.

    Midnight1 is right.  Breibart is a questionable source known for fake news according to mediabiasfactcheck.  Reputable fact checkers snopes, politifact and factcheck.org all say no evidence Soros funded immigrant caravans.  Besides, only an idiot would walk 1500 miles on a dangerous journey for under $25.

    Actually, caravan consists mostly of families and children fleeing violence and poverty.  Trump sounds like a nazi propagandist  dehumanizing refugees as violent criminals for political reasons.  But only 5% of refugees in past caravans have criminal records according to homeland security department.

    Under international law, seeking asylum isn't a crime.  It isn't for jewish families fleeing nazi Germany.  US court has ruled Trump restrictions on asylum violate immigration laws by congress.  One  lawsuit has been filed for death of child held in detention camp.  Immoral tear gassing of unarmed refugees could have been avoided by more proper processing of huge backlog of asylum applications according to immigration experts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

     Breibart is not a legitimate news source IMO. Frankly they are total BS.

    Midnight1 is right.  Breibart is a questionable source known for fake news according to mediabiasfactcheck.  Reputable fact checkers snopes, politifact and factcheck.org all say no evidence Soros funded immigrant caravans.  Besides, only an idiot would walk 1500 miles on a dangerous journey for under $25.

    Actually, caravan consists mostly of families and children fleeing violence and poverty.  Trump sounds like a nazi propagandist  dehumanizing refugees as violent criminals for political reasons.  But only 5% of refugees in past caravans have criminal records according to homeland security department.

    Under international law, seeking asylum isn't a crime.  It isn't for jewish families fleeing nazi Germany.  US court has ruled Trump restrictions on asylum violate immigration laws by congress.  One  lawsuit has been filed for death of child held in detention camp.  Immoral tear gassing of unarmed refugees could have been avoided by more proper processing of huge backlog of asylum applications according to immigration experts.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 2, 2018 - 12:31 AM ET #47

    Read the damn article. 

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    Read the damn article. 

     
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    Posted: Dec. 2, 2018 - 3:45 AM ET #48

    Quote Originally Posted by HockeyTeeth:

    You can go to any border and ask for asylum.

    On what grounds? In Canada we can purchase  ketchup flavoured potato chips, not sold in USA. Can a US citizen claim that they want to relocate to Canada because they like ketchup potato chips? There has to be grounds, legitimate reasons for granting asylum. 

    Lets look at one case...caravan migrant, Jose Villalobos-Jobel, 26 yr old MS-13 member. What is the basis for his asylum claim? You say let him in, give him a court date down the road? Is that correct?


    Asking for asylum and being granted asylum are two different things. I'll stand by my statement" You can go to any border and ask for asylum." How about reading what I said rather than what you wanted to see?  
    Where did I say anything about letting anyone in? 



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    Quote Originally Posted by HockeyTeeth:

    You can go to any border and ask for asylum.

    On what grounds? In Canada we can purchase  ketchup flavoured potato chips, not sold in USA. Can a US citizen claim that they want to relocate to Canada because they like ketchup potato chips? There has to be grounds, legitimate reasons for granting asylum. 

    Lets look at one case...caravan migrant, Jose Villalobos-Jobel, 26 yr old MS-13 member. What is the basis for his asylum claim? You say let him in, give him a court date down the road? Is that correct?


    Asking for asylum and being granted asylum are two different things. I'll stand by my statement" You can go to any border and ask for asylum." How about reading what I said rather than what you wanted to see?  
    Where did I say anything about letting anyone in? 



     
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    Posted: Dec. 2, 2018 - 3:48 AM ET #49

    Quote Originally Posted by gers:

    So are you giving trump a pass for bombing starving kids in Yemen?

    an_shake You weren't concerned about Yemen when Obama was drone striking them or Libya.


    Show me where I ever condoned it. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by gers:

    So are you giving trump a pass for bombing starving kids in Yemen?

    an_shake You weren't concerned about Yemen when Obama was drone striking them or Libya.


    Show me where I ever condoned it. 

     
     
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    Posted: Dec. 2, 2018 - 7:01 AM ET #50

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

     Breibart is not a legitimate news source IMO. Frankly they are total BS.
    Midnight1 is right.  Breibart is a questionable source known for fake news according to mediabiasfactcheck.  Reputable fact checkers snopes, politifact and factcheck.org all say no evidence Soros funded immigrant caravans.  Besides, only an idiot would walk 1500 miles on a dangerous journey for under $25. Actually, caravan consists mostly of families and children fleeing violence and poverty.  Trump sounds like a nazi propagandist  dehumanizing refugees as violent criminals for political reasons.  But only 5% of refugees in past caravans have criminal records according to homeland security department. Under international law, seeking asylum isn't a crime.  It isn't for jewish families fleeing nazi Germany.  US court has ruled Trump restrictions on asylum violate immigration laws by congress.  One  lawsuit has been filed for death of child held in detention camp.  Immoral tear gassing of unarmed refugees could have been avoided by more proper processing of huge backlog of asylum applications according to immigration experts.
    say your assessment that 5 % are criminals your saying 1 in 20 are killers designing to kill and poison the families here with drugs from there. So if a have you a bowl of mms and told you 1 in 20 will kill you the other 19 are fine how many do you want to pass out to your children?

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

     Breibart is not a legitimate news source IMO. Frankly they are total BS.
    Midnight1 is right.  Breibart is a questionable source known for fake news according to mediabiasfactcheck.  Reputable fact checkers snopes, politifact and factcheck.org all say no evidence Soros funded immigrant caravans.  Besides, only an idiot would walk 1500 miles on a dangerous journey for under $25. Actually, caravan consists mostly of families and children fleeing violence and poverty.  Trump sounds like a nazi propagandist  dehumanizing refugees as violent criminals for political reasons.  But only 5% of refugees in past caravans have criminal records according to homeland security department. Under international law, seeking asylum isn't a crime.  It isn't for jewish families fleeing nazi Germany.  US court has ruled Trump restrictions on asylum violate immigration laws by congress.  One  lawsuit has been filed for death of child held in detention camp.  Immoral tear gassing of unarmed refugees could have been avoided by more proper processing of huge backlog of asylum applications according to immigration experts.
    say your assessment that 5 % are criminals your saying 1 in 20 are killers designing to kill and poison the families here with drugs from there. So if a have you a bowl of mms and told you 1 in 20 will kill you the other 19 are fine how many do you want to pass out to your children?

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