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    Biden says gas station owners should lower their gas prices...

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    THEMUGG
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    Posted: Jul. 3, 2022 - 4:10 PM ET #1

     This guy knows nothing about business. an_roll_laugh

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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.

     This guy knows nothing about business. an_roll_laugh

     
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    Posted: Jul. 3, 2022 - 5:32 PM ET #2

    Obviously if he wanted gas stations to lower their price he could.... But that would be over extending government regulatory authority.....

     

    The government can state you must have a shot can't go to a retail chain stores without masks

    retail stores must enforce this or lose licences 

     

     must carry an unwanted child if your pregnant

    and that you pay tribute to the ruling class b those engaged in  labor on or  by April 15th ....

     

    But this is too far of an over reach in federal authority....

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    Obviously if he wanted gas stations to lower their price he could.... But that would be over extending government regulatory authority.....

     

    The government can state you must have a shot can't go to a retail chain stores without masks

    retail stores must enforce this or lose licences 

     

     must carry an unwanted child if your pregnant

    and that you pay tribute to the ruling class b those engaged in  labor on or  by April 15th ....

     

    But this is too far of an over reach in federal authority....

     
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    Posted: Jul. 3, 2022 - 5:54 PM ET #3

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     How many times has Joe used the bankruptcy laws to shield himself from running businesses into the ground & leaving vendors with unpaid bills for services rendered?

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    @THEMUGG

     How many times has Joe used the bankruptcy laws to shield himself from running businesses into the ground & leaving vendors with unpaid bills for services rendered?

     
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    Posted: Jul. 3, 2022 - 6:03 PM ET #4

    Oh but when it's red state governor in Kentucky it's ok I suppose.

    caused a spike in prices, so, too, have the opportunities ripened for gouging customers.


    During his Thursday “Team Kentucky” update, Gov. Andy Beshear issued an executive order, declaring a state of emergency in order to activate the state’s price gouging laws against gasoline.

    It also extends a state of emergency on price gouging against baby formula, which much like gasoline has been difficult to procure, and expensive to buy.

    With this active warning, consumers in the state can report, and continue to report, examples and experiences with price gouging to the Office of the Attorney General Daniel Cameron, where those actions can be held accountable and forthright.

    In a letter of detail from Cameron’s office, Beshear iterated that price gouging has been happening frequently in the Commonwealth since January.

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    Oh but when it's red state governor in Kentucky it's ok I suppose.

    caused a spike in prices, so, too, have the opportunities ripened for gouging customers.


    During his Thursday “Team Kentucky” update, Gov. Andy Beshear issued an executive order, declaring a state of emergency in order to activate the state’s price gouging laws against gasoline.

    It also extends a state of emergency on price gouging against baby formula, which much like gasoline has been difficult to procure, and expensive to buy.

    With this active warning, consumers in the state can report, and continue to report, examples and experiences with price gouging to the Office of the Attorney General Daniel Cameron, where those actions can be held accountable and forthright.

    In a letter of detail from Cameron’s office, Beshear iterated that price gouging has been happening frequently in the Commonwealth since January.

     
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    Posted: Jul. 3, 2022 - 6:10 PM ET #5

    The feds have all the cards here.

     

    See the feds through executive action during states of emergency currently I think we have 23 active states at the federally level in emergency but this fluctuates....

    They can set a price freeze.

    Simply put you can only sell it for this price no more.

    Or you can't mine it on federal land. 

    And all resources on federal land tracts lease arrangements must be utilized by Americans .....

    If a company who has a lease can not comply the lease may be sold to a corporation that will remain in compliance.

     

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    The feds have all the cards here.

     

    See the feds through executive action during states of emergency currently I think we have 23 active states at the federally level in emergency but this fluctuates....

    They can set a price freeze.

    Simply put you can only sell it for this price no more.

    Or you can't mine it on federal land. 

    And all resources on federal land tracts lease arrangements must be utilized by Americans .....

    If a company who has a lease can not comply the lease may be sold to a corporation that will remain in compliance.

     

     
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    Posted: Jul. 3, 2022 - 6:20 PM ET #6

    The government can freeze the price of goods and services .

     

    Rent, medicine, road construction costs, medical industries computer services pay levels

     ect ect ect...

    Gasoline is just a product and the gas station a service.... 

     Feds provide the most mining tracts for oil production. These leases have been brought to zero dollar arrangements to insure supply at a reasonable cost for the product..... Reality it's there oil were just renting space so to speak frankly of it.

    Nothing done because they don't want to....

     

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    The government can freeze the price of goods and services .

     

    Rent, medicine, road construction costs, medical industries computer services pay levels

     ect ect ect...

    Gasoline is just a product and the gas station a service.... 

     Feds provide the most mining tracts for oil production. These leases have been brought to zero dollar arrangements to insure supply at a reasonable cost for the product..... Reality it's there oil were just renting space so to speak frankly of it.

    Nothing done because they don't want to....

     

     
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    Posted: Jul. 3, 2022 - 6:36 PM ET #7

    https://www.energy.senate.gov/hearings/2022/5/full-committee-hearing-to-examine-the-president-s-fy-2023-budget-request-for-the-department-of-the-interior

    June 30th new lease arrangements will be announced....

    This was done in May if you keep pace with the Washington spew ....

    There is a link to Joe Manchin is the chairman of the committee.

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    https://www.energy.senate.gov/hearings/2022/5/full-committee-hearing-to-examine-the-president-s-fy-2023-budget-request-for-the-department-of-the-interior

    June 30th new lease arrangements will be announced....

    This was done in May if you keep pace with the Washington spew ....

    There is a link to Joe Manchin is the chairman of the committee.

     
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    Posted: Jul. 3, 2022 - 7:03 PM ET #8

    Quote Originally Posted by THEMUGG:

    This guy knows nothing about business.
    Ya the bigly businessman who bankrupted a casino really understands business.He understands business so well,he not only did it once,he did it 3 times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by THEMUGG:

    This guy knows nothing about business.
    Ya the bigly businessman who bankrupted a casino really understands business.He understands business so well,he not only did it once,he did it 3 times.

     
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    Posted: Jul. 3, 2022 - 7:11 PM ET #9

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    @THEMUGG  How many times has Joe used the bankruptcy laws to shield himself from running businesses into the ground & leaving vendors with unpaid bills for services rendered?

    How many businesses has Joe Biden ever ran? Can't even raise his own kids.

    Explains a lot. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    @THEMUGG  How many times has Joe used the bankruptcy laws to shield himself from running businesses into the ground & leaving vendors with unpaid bills for services rendered?

    How many businesses has Joe Biden ever ran? Can't even raise his own kids.

    Explains a lot. 

     
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    Posted: Jul. 3, 2022 - 7:16 PM ET #10

     

     

    Jeff Bezos says Joe Biden's call to cut gas prices is either 'straight-ahead misdirection or a deep misunderstanding of basic market dynamics'

     

     

    His tweet also drew praise from Chinese state media, with Chen Weihua, the EU bureau chief of the Chinese daily, responding that Biden “finally understood that capitalism is all about exploitation.”

     

     

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    Jeff Bezos says Joe Biden's call to cut gas prices is either 'straight-ahead misdirection or a deep misunderstanding of basic market dynamics'

     

     

    His tweet also drew praise from Chinese state media, with Chen Weihua, the EU bureau chief of the Chinese daily, responding that Biden “finally understood that capitalism is all about exploitation.”

     

     

     
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    Posted: Jul. 3, 2022 - 7:26 PM ET #11

    How many energy discussion has engaged in over last 5 decades.....

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    How many energy discussion has engaged in over last 5 decades.....

     
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    Posted: Jul. 3, 2022 - 7:30 PM ET #12

    The guy would prefer everything to be government run except, of course, strip clubs and Hunter's drug dealers.

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    The guy would prefer everything to be government run except, of course, strip clubs and Hunter's drug dealers.

     
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    Posted: Jul. 3, 2022 - 7:32 PM ET #13

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     You appear to be struggling with this, so I'll give you the short version......

     Gas station owners make about 3-7 cents/gallon on gasoline sold........ they don't have much wiggle room & aren't the cause of high gas prices. peace_5

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    @nature1970

     You appear to be struggling with this, so I'll give you the short version......

     Gas station owners make about 3-7 cents/gallon on gasoline sold........ they don't have much wiggle room & aren't the cause of high gas prices. peace_5

     
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    Posted: Jul. 3, 2022 - 8:03 PM ET #14

    Not the store owner 

    The people that own the pumps the tanks the storage facilities the entire system..... Oil companies.... Who lease land drill for product move product to refineries refineries to storage facilities storage facilities to the tankers who fill the tank .... The corporation owns it all...

    https://fortune.com/2022/07/03/bezos-slams-bidens-call-to-cut-gas-prices-inflation/

    And this guy is a position to make or lose alit of money 

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    Not the store owner 

    The people that own the pumps the tanks the storage facilities the entire system..... Oil companies.... Who lease land drill for product move product to refineries refineries to storage facilities storage facilities to the tankers who fill the tank .... The corporation owns it all...

    https://fortune.com/2022/07/03/bezos-slams-bidens-call-to-cut-gas-prices-inflation/

    And this guy is a position to make or lose alit of money 

     
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    Posted: Jul. 3, 2022 - 8:17 PM ET #15

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: @THEMUGG  How many times has Joe used the bankruptcy laws to shield himself from running businesses into the ground & leaving vendors with unpaid bills for services rendered? How many businesses has Joe Biden ever ran? Can't even raise his own kids. Explains a lot.

    Yeah Trump has done so well with his businesses and his kids. an_roll_laugh

    Trump hasn't really run any businesses either, not well at least. He has started many businesses and failed with pretty much all of them.

    The only successful business he has run to date is the business of scamming his own supporters and voters for money into the pretend "stop the steal" fund, which never existed. Most profitable scam he has ever run by far. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: @THEMUGG  How many times has Joe used the bankruptcy laws to shield himself from running businesses into the ground & leaving vendors with unpaid bills for services rendered? How many businesses has Joe Biden ever ran? Can't even raise his own kids. Explains a lot.

    Yeah Trump has done so well with his businesses and his kids. an_roll_laugh

    Trump hasn't really run any businesses either, not well at least. He has started many businesses and failed with pretty much all of them.

    The only successful business he has run to date is the business of scamming his own supporters and voters for money into the pretend "stop the steal" fund, which never existed. Most profitable scam he has ever run by far. 

     
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    Posted: Jul. 3, 2022 - 8:40 PM ET #16

    Let's start with the absurdity of5 to 7 cents a gallon....

    Ow no try 35 cents a gallon on 10,000 a gallon a day purchase....

    Here in Maine you can buy 10,000 gallons 45k and sell it close to 510 a gallon. That's at least 60 cents....

    https://www.atlasoil.com/products/87e10lv

     

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    Let's start with the absurdity of5 to 7 cents a gallon....

    Ow no try 35 cents a gallon on 10,000 a gallon a day purchase....

    Here in Maine you can buy 10,000 gallons 45k and sell it close to 510 a gallon. That's at least 60 cents....

    https://www.atlasoil.com/products/87e10lv

     

     
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    Posted: Jul. 3, 2022 - 8:41 PM ET #17

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    @THEMUGG  How many times has Joe used the bankruptcy laws to shield himself from running businesses into the ground & leaving vendors with unpaid bills for services rendered?

    He never ran a business. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    @THEMUGG  How many times has Joe used the bankruptcy laws to shield himself from running businesses into the ground & leaving vendors with unpaid bills for services rendered?

    He never ran a business. 

     
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    Posted: Jul. 3, 2022 - 8:41 PM ET #18

    It's a 6 k a day buy and sell.....

     

    On a 50k note investment....

    Now trying to state that the government shouldn't regulate energy is just as absurd...

    Under trump they sell a commodity for 2 something 

    A few months later and it can't be less than 5.... 

    It's big oil making Democrats look bad.... 

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    It's a 6 k a day buy and sell.....

     

    On a 50k note investment....

    Now trying to state that the government shouldn't regulate energy is just as absurd...

    Under trump they sell a commodity for 2 something 

    A few months later and it can't be less than 5.... 

    It's big oil making Democrats look bad.... 

     
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    Posted: Jul. 3, 2022 - 10:30 PM ET #19

    Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81:

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN: Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: @THEMUGG  How many times has Joe used the bankruptcy laws to shield himself from running businesses into the ground & leaving vendors with unpaid bills for services rendered? How many businesses has Joe Biden ever ran? Can't even raise his own kids. Explains a lot. Yeah Trump has done so well with his businesses and his kids.  Trump hasn't really run any businesses either, not well at least. He has started many businesses and failed with pretty much all of them. The only successful business he has run to date is the business of scamming his own supporters and voters for money into the pretend "stop the steal" fund, which never existed. Most profitable scam he has ever run by far.

    Is that why his net worth is $3,000,000,000 dollars??

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81:

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN: Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: @THEMUGG  How many times has Joe used the bankruptcy laws to shield himself from running businesses into the ground & leaving vendors with unpaid bills for services rendered? How many businesses has Joe Biden ever ran? Can't even raise his own kids. Explains a lot. Yeah Trump has done so well with his businesses and his kids.  Trump hasn't really run any businesses either, not well at least. He has started many businesses and failed with pretty much all of them. The only successful business he has run to date is the business of scamming his own supporters and voters for money into the pretend "stop the steal" fund, which never existed. Most profitable scam he has ever run by far.

    Is that why his net worth is $3,000,000,000 dollars??

     
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    Posted: Jul. 3, 2022 - 11:02 PM ET #20

    Because he was honest statesmen...

    Cause he could of been worth 3 billion dollars after 50 years instrumentally responsible for 100 trillions of dollars after n spending being apart of budgets for 50 years???? 

    Trust those old people are doing just fine....

    As for Trump a suckers born every minute and he is a sucker magnet..... What don't you attend trump u university and really get an education .....

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    Because he was honest statesmen...

    Cause he could of been worth 3 billion dollars after 50 years instrumentally responsible for 100 trillions of dollars after n spending being apart of budgets for 50 years???? 

    Trust those old people are doing just fine....

    As for Trump a suckers born every minute and he is a sucker magnet..... What don't you attend trump u university and really get an education .....

     
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    Posted: Jul. 4, 2022 - 3:38 AM ET #21

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81: Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN: Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: @THEMUGG  How many times has Joe used the bankruptcy laws to shield himself from running businesses into the ground & leaving vendors with unpaid bills for services rendered? How many businesses has Joe Biden ever ran? Can't even raise his own kids. Explains a lot. Yeah Trump has done so well with his businesses and his kids.  Trump hasn't really run any businesses either, not well at least. He has started many businesses and failed with pretty much all of them. The only successful business he has run to date is the business of scamming his own supporters and voters for money into the pretend "stop the steal" fund, which never existed. Most profitable scam he has ever run by far. Is that why his net worth is $3,000,000,000 dollars??

    Sure it is..... lie

    We will never really know because his shady organization never releases financials or taxes. Also helps that he inherited half a billion and stole hundreds of millions from his voters like you. an_light

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    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81: Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN: Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: @THEMUGG  How many times has Joe used the bankruptcy laws to shield himself from running businesses into the ground & leaving vendors with unpaid bills for services rendered? How many businesses has Joe Biden ever ran? Can't even raise his own kids. Explains a lot. Yeah Trump has done so well with his businesses and his kids.  Trump hasn't really run any businesses either, not well at least. He has started many businesses and failed with pretty much all of them. The only successful business he has run to date is the business of scamming his own supporters and voters for money into the pretend "stop the steal" fund, which never existed. Most profitable scam he has ever run by far. Is that why his net worth is $3,000,000,000 dollars??

    Sure it is..... lie

    We will never really know because his shady organization never releases financials or taxes. Also helps that he inherited half a billion and stole hundreds of millions from his voters like you. an_light

     
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    Posted: Jul. 4, 2022 - 7:29 AM ET #22

    Biden is a lifetime government employee and Obama was worth than a large tuna fish before becoming a politician 

    The Trump Organization is a group of about 500 business entities of which Donald Trump is the sole or principal owner

    Liberal: akktually we don’t know the details so we’ll just assume he fails at everything because his loser father also had an empire and left it to him lmao what a bunch of akktual losers those Trumps are 

     

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    Biden is a lifetime government employee and Obama was worth than a large tuna fish before becoming a politician 

    The Trump Organization is a group of about 500 business entities of which Donald Trump is the sole or principal owner

    Liberal: akktually we don’t know the details so we’ll just assume he fails at everything because his loser father also had an empire and left it to him lmao what a bunch of akktual losers those Trumps are 

     

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    Posted: Jul. 4, 2022 - 7:37 AM ET #23

    Trump is following the tax laws that lifetime politicians like Joe Biden made 

     

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    Trump is following the tax laws that lifetime politicians like Joe Biden made 

     

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    Posted: Jul. 4, 2022 - 8:44 AM ET #24

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    Get back to your work cubicle and pay your taxes.

    I don't want my Social Security check to bounce.

     

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    @I_Need_A_Detox

    Get back to your work cubicle and pay your taxes.

    I don't want my Social Security check to bounce.

     

     
     
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    Posted: Jul. 4, 2022 - 8:49 AM ET #25

    I'm going to shutdown the oil industry and refineries!!! I am not going to cooperate with them!

    Jan. 2021, Keystone Pipeline immediately cancelled.

    May, 2022, Limetree Refinery to shutdown after 3 billion dollar upgrade to make it cleaner and more productive is denied by Biden.

    June 2022, Biden calls on US refineries to produce MORE!! ..........ELECTIONS ARE COMING!!! an_roll_laugh

    It's not my fault!! lie

    "When oil and gas executives visited the White House in June, Biden snubbed them by refusing to attend the meeting. Instead, at the very same moment, he met with wind industry executives. A few days earlier, Biden administration officials signaled they may support a LARGE  new TAX on the oil industry by a Senator from Oregon.

    All of this has soured the oil and gas industry on investing in production. “If you were an oil company,” a senior executive at a major US bank told me, why would you invest hundreds of millions of dollars into expanding refining capacity if you thought the federal government or investors would shut you down in the next few years? The narrative coming from the administration is absolutely insane.”"

     

     

     

     

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    I'm going to shutdown the oil industry and refineries!!! I am not going to cooperate with them!

    Jan. 2021, Keystone Pipeline immediately cancelled.

    May, 2022, Limetree Refinery to shutdown after 3 billion dollar upgrade to make it cleaner and more productive is denied by Biden.

    June 2022, Biden calls on US refineries to produce MORE!! ..........ELECTIONS ARE COMING!!! an_roll_laugh

    It's not my fault!! lie

    "When oil and gas executives visited the White House in June, Biden snubbed them by refusing to attend the meeting. Instead, at the very same moment, he met with wind industry executives. A few days earlier, Biden administration officials signaled they may support a LARGE  new TAX on the oil industry by a Senator from Oregon.

    All of this has soured the oil and gas industry on investing in production. “If you were an oil company,” a senior executive at a major US bank told me, why would you invest hundreds of millions of dollars into expanding refining capacity if you thought the federal government or investors would shut you down in the next few years? The narrative coming from the administration is absolutely insane.”"

     

     

     

     

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