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    Bi-Dumb's new America: Illegal immigrant encounters at the southern border reach record high, sources say

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    spockgato
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    Posted: Jan. 2, 2024 - 5:49 PM ET #26

    Hell I’m such a nice guy to a fault that I even want the illegal ones to feel welcome peace_5

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    Hell I’m such a nice guy to a fault that I even want the illegal ones to feel welcome peace_5

     
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    Posted: Jan. 2, 2024 - 6:23 PM ET #27

    Quote Originally Posted by darkhorse12:

    Since bills are introduced in the house of reps and republicans are in charge of the house, please show me the list of bills that have been introduced on immigration?

     

    Why waste their time?

    https://www.daytondailynews.com/blog/jamie-dupree/democrats-continue-immigration-filibuster/QT7eOsdNGYZKWgT2IZnSzN/

    Same old story. Worlds apart.

    https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/biden-promises-to-veto-any-house-gop-bill-on-border-enforcement

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    Quote Originally Posted by darkhorse12:

    Since bills are introduced in the house of reps and republicans are in charge of the house, please show me the list of bills that have been introduced on immigration?

     

    Why waste their time?

    https://www.daytondailynews.com/blog/jamie-dupree/democrats-continue-immigration-filibuster/QT7eOsdNGYZKWgT2IZnSzN/

    Same old story. Worlds apart.

    https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/biden-promises-to-veto-any-house-gop-bill-on-border-enforcement

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    Posted: Jan. 2, 2024 - 7:42 PM ET #28

    @UNIMAN

     Well, your 1st link goes back to 2015 & specifically was President Obama's demand that the "Dreamers" had to be included in any legislation & Republicans did not agree with that stance.

    The 2nd link basically does away with asylum seekers & promoting the wall building fiasco. Both non-starters for discussion.

    The comment from darkhorse has not been answered IMO. 

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    @UNIMAN

     Well, your 1st link goes back to 2015 & specifically was President Obama's demand that the "Dreamers" had to be included in any legislation & Republicans did not agree with that stance.

    The 2nd link basically does away with asylum seekers & promoting the wall building fiasco. Both non-starters for discussion.

    The comment from darkhorse has not been answered IMO. 

     
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    Posted: Jan. 3, 2024 - 2:58 PM ET #29

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    @UNIMAN  Well, your 1st link goes back to 2015 & specifically was President Obama's demand that the "Dreamers" had to be included in any legislation & Republicans did not agree with that stance. The 2nd link basically does away with asylum seekers & promoting the wall building fiasco. Both non-starters for discussion. The comment from darkhorse has not been answered IMO.

    I think that was his exact point by posting those particular links. 

    an_roll_laugh

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    @Midnight1

     

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    @UNIMAN  Well, your 1st link goes back to 2015 & specifically was President Obama's demand that the "Dreamers" had to be included in any legislation & Republicans did not agree with that stance. The 2nd link basically does away with asylum seekers & promoting the wall building fiasco. Both non-starters for discussion. The comment from darkhorse has not been answered IMO.

    I think that was his exact point by posting those particular links. 

    an_roll_laugh

     
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    Posted: Jan. 3, 2024 - 3:07 PM ET #30

    @Raiders22

     Highway signs near the Chicago suburbs in Grundy County, Illinois, tell bus drivers in no uncertain terms, "NO MIGRANT BUSES THIS EXIT."

    Interesting, urbanites turning their back.

    Basically indicating enough is enough.

    I can only imagine when that day will come
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    @Raiders22

     Highway signs near the Chicago suburbs in Grundy County, Illinois, tell bus drivers in no uncertain terms, "NO MIGRANT BUSES THIS EXIT."

    Interesting, urbanites turning their back.

    Basically indicating enough is enough.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 3, 2024 - 3:12 PM ET #31

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     That...or flat-out discrimination against the wonderful illegals. 

    an_roll_laugh

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    @cdog8043

     That...or flat-out discrimination against the wonderful illegals. 

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    Posted: Jan. 3, 2024 - 4:17 PM ET #32

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     Check the latest headline.   The new border patrol.

     

    I can only imagine when that day will come
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    @Raiders22

     Check the latest headline.   The new border patrol.

     

     
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    Posted: Jan. 3, 2024 - 4:19 PM ET #33

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     Check the latest headline.   The new border patrol.

    Masked gunman abduct 31 migrants near Texas border. 

    Organized crime groups that control the border area regularly kidnap migrants to hold them for ransom, with large abductions previously occurring in Tamaulipas state.

    They need workers for their drug factories.

    I can only imagine when that day will come
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    @Raiders22

     Check the latest headline.   The new border patrol.

    Masked gunman abduct 31 migrants near Texas border. 

    Organized crime groups that control the border area regularly kidnap migrants to hold them for ransom, with large abductions previously occurring in Tamaulipas state.

    They need workers for their drug factories.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 3, 2024 - 7:42 PM ET #34

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    In Congress, some GOP lawmakers have raised flags about Venezuelan immigrants at the southern border, citing an alleged Department of Homeland Security report saying the Venezuelan government is sending prisoners to the southern U.S. border.

    Politifact fact check found no evidence of Homeland security report claiming Venezuela send jail prisoners to US border.  Breithart first promoted this fake conspiracy theory.  Border patrol check immigrants backgrounds and take their fingerprints.  Those without criminal records may be allowed to apply for asylum. Then they are detained or released while awaiting court proceedings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    In Congress, some GOP lawmakers have raised flags about Venezuelan immigrants at the southern border, citing an alleged Department of Homeland Security report saying the Venezuelan government is sending prisoners to the southern U.S. border.

    Politifact fact check found no evidence of Homeland security report claiming Venezuela send jail prisoners to US border.  Breithart first promoted this fake conspiracy theory.  Border patrol check immigrants backgrounds and take their fingerprints.  Those without criminal records may be allowed to apply for asylum. Then they are detained or released while awaiting court proceedings.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 3, 2024 - 8:08 PM ET #35

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    Quote Originally Posted by cdog8043:

    @Raiders22  Check the latest headline.   The new border patrol. Masked gunman abduct 31 migrants near Texas border.  Organized crime groups that control the border area regularly kidnap migrants to hold them for ransom, with large abductions previously occurring in Tamaulipas state. They need workers for their drug factories.

    Yep--I saw peace_5

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    Quote Originally Posted by cdog8043:

    @Raiders22  Check the latest headline.   The new border patrol. Masked gunman abduct 31 migrants near Texas border.  Organized crime groups that control the border area regularly kidnap migrants to hold them for ransom, with large abductions previously occurring in Tamaulipas state. They need workers for their drug factories.

    Yep--I saw peace_5

     
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    Posted: Jan. 5, 2024 - 7:45 AM ET #36

    Boy, ain't this the truth:

    Texas Republican Gov. Greg Abbott tore into Democratic city and state leaders struggling to accommodate migrants from the southern border, calling out the hypocrisy of sanctuary cities.

    "Something has been revealed during this entire episode, and that is the very real hostility that Democrats have against illegal immigrants," Abbott told "America's Newsroom" Thursday. 

    "They profess to be sanctuary cities and sanctuary states. They want to welcome them in until they actually do come in. And then when they come in, they say, no, no, no, no, no, we don't want them here, we want to send them back to Texas. They're for illegal immigration as long as it's Texas and the border states that have to deal with that illegal immigration."

    I can only imagine when that day will come
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    Boy, ain't this the truth:

    Texas Republican Gov. Greg Abbott tore into Democratic city and state leaders struggling to accommodate migrants from the southern border, calling out the hypocrisy of sanctuary cities.

    "Something has been revealed during this entire episode, and that is the very real hostility that Democrats have against illegal immigrants," Abbott told "America's Newsroom" Thursday. 

    "They profess to be sanctuary cities and sanctuary states. They want to welcome them in until they actually do come in. And then when they come in, they say, no, no, no, no, no, we don't want them here, we want to send them back to Texas. They're for illegal immigration as long as it's Texas and the border states that have to deal with that illegal immigration."

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by cdog8043:

      "They profess to be sanctuary cities and sanctuary states. They want to welcome them in until they actually do come in. And then when they come in, they say, no, no, no, no, no, we don't want them here,

    Shipping migrants to other cities is a political stunt that doesn't solve any problem.  Under the Constitution, being an illegal migrant isn't a crime.  So non-citizens still qualify for basic health, education and social services.  There is no federal law against sanctuary cities.  Legally, they aren't required to report or detain migrants to federal government unless in investigation of serious crime.  Deportation is the job of federal government but not states.  Local police can still arrest migrants who commit crimes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cdog8043:

      "They profess to be sanctuary cities and sanctuary states. They want to welcome them in until they actually do come in. And then when they come in, they say, no, no, no, no, no, we don't want them here,

    Shipping migrants to other cities is a political stunt that doesn't solve any problem.  Under the Constitution, being an illegal migrant isn't a crime.  So non-citizens still qualify for basic health, education and social services.  There is no federal law against sanctuary cities.  Legally, they aren't required to report or detain migrants to federal government unless in investigation of serious crime.  Deportation is the job of federal government but not states.  Local police can still arrest migrants who commit crimes.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 5, 2024 - 2:04 PM ET #38

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     Shipping migrants to other cities is a political stunt that doesn't solve any problem. 

    Sure it does.  It moves those to someone else's city, usually someone supposedly more 'sympathetic' to them and it shows them you do NOT want them in your city.

    And they are 'illegals' not 'migrants' -- big difference. 

    peace_5

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    @thirdperson

     Shipping migrants to other cities is a political stunt that doesn't solve any problem. 

    Sure it does.  It moves those to someone else's city, usually someone supposedly more 'sympathetic' to them and it shows them you do NOT want them in your city.

    And they are 'illegals' not 'migrants' -- big difference. 

    peace_5

     
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    Posted: Jan. 5, 2024 - 5:09 PM ET #39

    Raiders... third is a bot... it can't handle the truth

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    Raiders... third is a bot... it can't handle the truth

     
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    House GOP threatens to impeach secretary of homeland security.  But an impeachment inquiry would be baseless and lack bipartisan support.  Historically, no administration can completely control immigration.  Apparently, House republicans are more interested in political stunts than in solving problems because they have blocked extra funding  requested by Biden to increase deportations. 

    According to Cato institute, data shows that even if Trump is still president, there wouldn't be any more migrants deported than under Biden.  In fact, a higher percentage of border crossers are removed despite having to deal with greater numbers due to global displacement crisis.    The reason why people are released is because of limited capacity to detain and deport them.  Not policy.  Since tougher law enforcement has failed, any president should focus on reforming legal immigration to fix border problems.  Stronger US economy tends to attract more immigration.

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    House GOP threatens to impeach secretary of homeland security.  But an impeachment inquiry would be baseless and lack bipartisan support.  Historically, no administration can completely control immigration.  Apparently, House republicans are more interested in political stunts than in solving problems because they have blocked extra funding  requested by Biden to increase deportations. 

    According to Cato institute, data shows that even if Trump is still president, there wouldn't be any more migrants deported than under Biden.  In fact, a higher percentage of border crossers are removed despite having to deal with greater numbers due to global displacement crisis.    The reason why people are released is because of limited capacity to detain and deport them.  Not policy.  Since tougher law enforcement has failed, any president should focus on reforming legal immigration to fix border problems.  Stronger US economy tends to attract more immigration.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 9, 2024 - 9:33 PM ET #41

    Nearly 2,000 migrants being sheltered in a tent shelter in New York City are being transferred to a nearby high school, where the students will have to pivot to remote learning due to the disruption it is causing – sparking outrage from residents and local politicians.

    New York City Mayor Eric Adams’ office said it is moving 1,900 migrants from the tent shelter at Floyd Bennett Field for safety reasons due to the incoming storms and potential high winds. According to the New York Daily News, Adams told reporters that it was being done out of an "overabundance of caution."

    NYC sanctuary city.  Adams make room for more.

    I can only imagine when that day will come
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    Nearly 2,000 migrants being sheltered in a tent shelter in New York City are being transferred to a nearby high school, where the students will have to pivot to remote learning due to the disruption it is causing – sparking outrage from residents and local politicians.

    New York City Mayor Eric Adams’ office said it is moving 1,900 migrants from the tent shelter at Floyd Bennett Field for safety reasons due to the incoming storms and potential high winds. According to the New York Daily News, Adams told reporters that it was being done out of an "overabundance of caution."

    NYC sanctuary city.  Adams make room for more.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 10, 2024 - 9:19 AM ET #42

    It’s sad that adults “ in power “ have resorted to this sick game . It’s like what goes on here in this forum . Just on a bigger and way more sinister scale . Because it actually means something and has ramifications . Not like the bullshit that gets peddled in here by mere “ underlings “. Texas is pissed off with the rules so to remedy the situation they pay for the transport of these people to other cities . Amazing . You can’t make this shit up . Now the big cities are crying foul because they are tasked with the job of finding a place for these peeps to stay . And they have to fund it . Wow . Pass the buck homies . I think this thing needs to be figured out better “ from the jump “

    sidehatch knows what that means because it’s a rap reference peace_5

    So ask him about it if you’re “ not down “ with that type of vernacular .

    wallstreetcappers craps in his draws and pees fuckin backwards from his vaj with a squirt.
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    It’s sad that adults “ in power “ have resorted to this sick game . It’s like what goes on here in this forum . Just on a bigger and way more sinister scale . Because it actually means something and has ramifications . Not like the bullshit that gets peddled in here by mere “ underlings “. Texas is pissed off with the rules so to remedy the situation they pay for the transport of these people to other cities . Amazing . You can’t make this shit up . Now the big cities are crying foul because they are tasked with the job of finding a place for these peeps to stay . And they have to fund it . Wow . Pass the buck homies . I think this thing needs to be figured out better “ from the jump “

    sidehatch knows what that means because it’s a rap reference peace_5

    So ask him about it if you’re “ not down “ with that type of vernacular .

     
     
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     Right on spock...and those cities have no idea of the impact, trouble and strife that the border crisis is causing those fellow Americans in those cities that neighbor the borders, nor the financial burden it creates by continuing to allow this shit show to continue. People up north can easily pass blame or shame when it's not in their city, but the minute it comes to their town they can't handle the truth of it all...get real people...this ain't the tree falling in the forest story and whether or not anyone heard it...oh, it's been heard and you are feeling the impact on a smaller scale...you people of the north are impacted with a few of these migrants...try putting yourself in the shoes of your fellow Americans who live in the southern states that are enduring this on a very large and wide scale...your shit in the north is a fraction of what it is down south....get a grip

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    @spockgato

     Right on spock...and those cities have no idea of the impact, trouble and strife that the border crisis is causing those fellow Americans in those cities that neighbor the borders, nor the financial burden it creates by continuing to allow this shit show to continue. People up north can easily pass blame or shame when it's not in their city, but the minute it comes to their town they can't handle the truth of it all...get real people...this ain't the tree falling in the forest story and whether or not anyone heard it...oh, it's been heard and you are feeling the impact on a smaller scale...you people of the north are impacted with a few of these migrants...try putting yourself in the shoes of your fellow Americans who live in the southern states that are enduring this on a very large and wide scale...your shit in the north is a fraction of what it is down south....get a grip

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