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    3 members of 1972 Dolphins skip the White House visit for political reasons

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    chilitokid
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    Posted: Aug. 22, 2013 - 8:34 AM ET #26

    Freedom of Speech comes inane many forms. This could be construed as one.
    It also might be that the athlete just didn't want to go....personal choice that is their choice.
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    Freedom of Speech comes inane many forms. This could be construed as one.
    It also might be that the athlete just didn't want to go....personal choice that is their choice.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 22, 2013 - 8:43 AM ET #27

    I would go in a hearbeat

    Even if you disagree with the current POTUS  you have to feel honored to go  to  the White House & what it has symbolized from 1800 until 2009.

    Remember the reason these guys weren't honored right after their  unprecedented accomplishment in the first place is because of another corrupt President riddled with scandals that he was trying to cover up.

    Strange synchronicity that they now would be honored by a corrupt president riddled scandals that he is trying to cover up


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    I would go in a hearbeat

    Even if you disagree with the current POTUS  you have to feel honored to go  to  the White House & what it has symbolized from 1800 until 2009.

    Remember the reason these guys weren't honored right after their  unprecedented accomplishment in the first place is because of another corrupt President riddled with scandals that he was trying to cover up.

    Strange synchronicity that they now would be honored by a corrupt president riddled scandals that he is trying to cover up


     
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    Posted: Aug. 22, 2013 - 8:58 AM ET #28

    Villan, come on Man..... Stop with the scandals, Benghazi etc. You should know that it's all about trying to get rid of a president who is trying to help the middle class, in which you are included.

    You're like the guy trying to commit suicide that keeps throwing back the life preserver.

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    Villan, come on Man..... Stop with the scandals, Benghazi etc. You should know that it's all about trying to get rid of a president who is trying to help the middle class, in which you are included.

    You're like the guy trying to commit suicide that keeps throwing back the life preserver.

     
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    Posted: Aug. 22, 2013 - 9:06 AM ET #29

    Stop with the scandals? What's your source on these topics? Is it more credible than Ville's? My guess is from past posts that your not a kid in age yet your posts project an image of a junior high kid. His name is Villemure not "Villan".
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    Stop with the scandals? What's your source on these topics? Is it more credible than Ville's? My guess is from past posts that your not a kid in age yet your posts project an image of a junior high kid. His name is Villemure not "Villan".
     
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    Posted: Aug. 22, 2013 - 10:23 AM ET #30

    A national poll released Thursday finds that 78 percent of voters think the questions over the administration's handling of the terrorist attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi should be taken seriously. Just 17 percent call it a phony scandal.

    Don Juan is a proud 17% er.
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    A national poll released Thursday finds that 78 percent of voters think the questions over the administration's handling of the terrorist attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi should be taken seriously. Just 17 percent call it a phony scandal.

    Don Juan is a proud 17% er.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 22, 2013 - 10:44 AM ET #31

    Quote Originally Posted by don juan:

    Villan, come on Man..... Stop with the scandals, Benghazi etc. You should know that it's all about trying to get rid of a president who is trying to help the middle class, in which you are included.

    You're like the guy trying to commit suicide that keeps throwing back the life preserver.

    I would say that it is more about making Hillary a non-entity in the next political election. She is the one who lied to congress and resigned in disgrace after having an emotional breakdown in a congressional hearing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by don juan:

    Villan, come on Man..... Stop with the scandals, Benghazi etc. You should know that it's all about trying to get rid of a president who is trying to help the middle class, in which you are included.

    You're like the guy trying to commit suicide that keeps throwing back the life preserver.

    I would say that it is more about making Hillary a non-entity in the next political election. She is the one who lied to congress and resigned in disgrace after having an emotional breakdown in a congressional hearing.

     
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    Posted: Aug. 22, 2013 - 10:52 AM ET #32

    Hillary and Bill are your next couple to reside in the White House. Book it
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    Hillary and Bill are your next couple to reside in the White House. Book it
     
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    Posted: Aug. 22, 2013 - 10:55 AM ET #33

    Quote Originally Posted by don juan:

    Hillary and Bill are your next couple to reside in the White House. Book it


    any odds on this right now.  i would say the fair odds are

    Hilary -1000
    Johnson +10000
    A Republican Actually Runs  +100000
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    Quote Originally Posted by don juan:

    Hillary and Bill are your next couple to reside in the White House. Book it


    any odds on this right now.  i would say the fair odds are

    Hilary -1000
    Johnson +10000
    A Republican Actually Runs  +100000
     
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    Posted: Aug. 22, 2013 - 11:05 AM ET #34

    Obama is trying to help the middle class?

     “The buying power of Americans continues to be weaker than it was when the recession ended four years ago, underscoring the lasting damage wrought by the downturn, according to a report released Wednesday. Inflation-adjusted median household income has declined 4.4 percent, to $52,098, since June 2009, the official end of the recession, said the report by Sentier Research, an Annapolis data-analysis firm headed by two former Census Bureau officials.”

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/recessions-pain-reaching-deep-into-the-economic-recovery/2013/08/21/6fe5ce28-090c-11e3-9941-6711ed662e71_story.html

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    Obama is trying to help the middle class?

     “The buying power of Americans continues to be weaker than it was when the recession ended four years ago, underscoring the lasting damage wrought by the downturn, according to a report released Wednesday. Inflation-adjusted median household income has declined 4.4 percent, to $52,098, since June 2009, the official end of the recession, said the report by Sentier Research, an Annapolis data-analysis firm headed by two former Census Bureau officials.”

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/recessions-pain-reaching-deep-into-the-economic-recovery/2013/08/21/6fe5ce28-090c-11e3-9941-6711ed662e71_story.html

     
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    Posted: Aug. 22, 2013 - 11:06 AM ET #35

    Quote Originally Posted by mattbrot:


    or alternatively -- too bad that those players couldn't get over themselves and put their personal opinions aside to go and share a special moment with their historical team.  Selfish.

    Actually, it is called being principled.

    I'd add, there is nothing "special" about meeting the dim-witted failure who thinks he's baskeball jones.

    I'd laugh in his face.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattbrot:


    or alternatively -- too bad that those players couldn't get over themselves and put their personal opinions aside to go and share a special moment with their historical team.  Selfish.

    Actually, it is called being principled.

    I'd add, there is nothing "special" about meeting the dim-witted failure who thinks he's baskeball jones.

    I'd laugh in his face.

     
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    Posted: Aug. 22, 2013 - 11:51 AM ET #36

    Quote Originally Posted by ClubDirt:



    any odds on this right now.  i would say the fair odds are

    Hilary -1000
    Johnson +10000
    A Republican Actually Runs  +100000

    might be tougher than you think following this current administation... and there's plenty of time for it to get worse. Please don't ask me for a "worthy" republican candidate tho.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ClubDirt:



    any odds on this right now.  i would say the fair odds are

    Hilary -1000
    Johnson +10000
    A Republican Actually Runs  +100000

    might be tougher than you think following this current administation... and there's plenty of time for it to get worse. Please don't ask me for a "worthy" republican candidate tho.

     
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    Posted: Aug. 22, 2013 - 12:14 PM ET #37

    Quote Originally Posted by captjohn67:

    might be tougher than you think following this current administation... and there's plenty of time for it to get worse. Please don't ask me for a "worthy" republican candidate tho.

    Agreed. With her being the potential candidate in mind, Republicans have been targeting her for a long time.

    Blueprint to beat her is out there, people are just too stubborn to....

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    Quote Originally Posted by captjohn67:

    might be tougher than you think following this current administation... and there's plenty of time for it to get worse. Please don't ask me for a "worthy" republican candidate tho.

    Agreed. With her being the potential candidate in mind, Republicans have been targeting her for a long time.

    Blueprint to beat her is out there, people are just too stubborn to....

     
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    Posted: Aug. 22, 2013 - 12:20 PM ET #38

    Quote Originally Posted by captjohn67:

    might be tougher than you think following this current administation... and there's plenty of time for it to get worse. Please don't ask me for a "worthy" republican candidate tho.

     

    LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by captjohn67:

    might be tougher than you think following this current administation... and there's plenty of time for it to get worse. Please don't ask me for a "worthy" republican candidate tho.

     

    LOL

     
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    Posted: Aug. 22, 2013 - 12:27 PM ET #39

    Quote Originally Posted by captjohn67:

    might be tougher than you think following this current administation... and there's plenty of time for it to get worse. Please don't ask me for a "worthy" republican candidate tho.



    those are odds for 2020.  i think 2016 is a done deal given the state of the republicans these days.
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    Quote Originally Posted by captjohn67:

    might be tougher than you think following this current administation... and there's plenty of time for it to get worse. Please don't ask me for a "worthy" republican candidate tho.



    those are odds for 2020.  i think 2016 is a done deal given the state of the republicans these days.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 22, 2013 - 12:37 PM ET #40

    Quote Originally Posted by 14daroad:

    Actually, it is called being principled.

    I'd add, there is nothing "special" about meeting the dim-witted failure who thinks he's baskeball jones.

    I'd laugh in his face.


    Fine line between principled / and putting personal opinions aside to be with your team.  As i said I am sure there are many others who showed up despite having similar beliefs.

    they made their decision and that is fine but lets not use this to claim it was Obamas fault.

    special in that it is a moment to share with their teammates 
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    Quote Originally Posted by 14daroad:

    Actually, it is called being principled.

    I'd add, there is nothing "special" about meeting the dim-witted failure who thinks he's baskeball jones.

    I'd laugh in his face.


    Fine line between principled / and putting personal opinions aside to be with your team.  As i said I am sure there are many others who showed up despite having similar beliefs.

    they made their decision and that is fine but lets not use this to claim it was Obamas fault.

    special in that it is a moment to share with their teammates 
     
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    Posted: Aug. 22, 2013 - 12:56 PM ET #41

    all butthurt in this thread is 


    get a life, respect other people's choices and stop deifying your politicians...


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    all butthurt in this thread is 


    get a life, respect other people's choices and stop deifying your politicians...


     
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    Posted: Aug. 22, 2013 - 2:35 PM ET #42

    Quote Originally Posted by TILTOLOGIC:

    all butthurt in this thread is 


    get a life, respect other people's choices and stop deifying your politicians...


    I don't think anyone is questioning their rights to choose. Respecting other people's choice also means to respect other people's choice to express their opinions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TILTOLOGIC:

    all butthurt in this thread is 


    get a life, respect other people's choices and stop deifying your politicians...


    I don't think anyone is questioning their rights to choose. Respecting other people's choice also means to respect other people's choice to express their opinions.

     
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    Posted: Aug. 22, 2013 - 2:43 PM ET #43

    Quote Originally Posted by don juan:

    Hillary and Bill are your next couple to reside in the White House. Book it

    I will take the field against Clinton.

    Name your terms. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by don juan:

    Hillary and Bill are your next couple to reside in the White House. Book it

    I will take the field against Clinton.

    Name your terms. 

     
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    Posted: Aug. 22, 2013 - 3:21 PM ET #44

    I will take the final Democrat nominee against the field.

    Name your terms  

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    I will take the final Democrat nominee against the field.

    Name your terms  

     
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    Posted: Aug. 22, 2013 - 3:36 PM ET #45

    Quote Originally Posted by don juan:

    I will take the final Democrat nominee against the field.

    Name your terms  

    You made a statement Don,  Then

    and I quote

    "book it"

    I am calling your action,  I don't know how you do things in Florida, but here in West Virginia we have a name for fellas that try to change the terms after they have run their mouth. 

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by don juan:

    I will take the final Democrat nominee against the field.

    Name your terms  

    You made a statement Don,  Then

    and I quote

    "book it"

    I am calling your action,  I don't know how you do things in Florida, but here in West Virginia we have a name for fellas that try to change the terms after they have run their mouth. 

     

     

     
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    Posted: Aug. 22, 2013 - 3:47 PM ET #46

    Don, you have a better chance if you take Joe- lunch bucket- Biden as you do with Over the Hillary..
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    Don, you have a better chance if you take Joe- lunch bucket- Biden as you do with Over the Hillary..
     
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    Posted: Aug. 22, 2013 - 5:28 PM ET #47

    Quote Originally Posted by mattbrot:


    very true --  but this should also not be spun as if it is Obama's fault either.

    They made their decision that is fine. I am sure there were plenty of others who decided to make the trip despite less than enthusiastic feelings towards the current administration.


    https://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=215x9304

    Very likely that it was on account of Obama's policies. Just like Pedro Martinez and Doug Mientkiewicz refused to see Bush back in the day.

    Where was the uproar then? Did Don Juan call them names too for skipping white house visit to see GW?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattbrot:


    very true --  but this should also not be spun as if it is Obama's fault either.

    They made their decision that is fine. I am sure there were plenty of others who decided to make the trip despite less than enthusiastic feelings towards the current administration.


    https://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=215x9304

    Very likely that it was on account of Obama's policies. Just like Pedro Martinez and Doug Mientkiewicz refused to see Bush back in the day.

    Where was the uproar then? Did Don Juan call them names too for skipping white house visit to see GW?
     
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    Posted: Aug. 22, 2013 - 5:41 PM ET #48

    Quote Originally Posted by rick3117:

    You made a statement Don,  Then

    and I quote

    "book it"

    I am calling your action,  I don't know how you do things in Florida, but here in West Virginia we have a name for fellas that try to change the terms after they have run their mouth. 

     

     

    Good post

    Don seems like a man of his word

    You took him up on his challenge before he altered the terms of the bet, therefore I am confident he will honor the bet.

    If a man doesn't honor a bet after it is accepted, I would call that person repulsive
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    Quote Originally Posted by rick3117:

    You made a statement Don,  Then

    and I quote

    "book it"

    I am calling your action,  I don't know how you do things in Florida, but here in West Virginia we have a name for fellas that try to change the terms after they have run their mouth. 

     

     

    Good post

    Don seems like a man of his word

    You took him up on his challenge before he altered the terms of the bet, therefore I am confident he will honor the bet.

    If a man doesn't honor a bet after it is accepted, I would call that person repulsive
     
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    Posted: Aug. 22, 2013 - 5:56 PM ET #49

    Quote Originally Posted by Villemure30:

    I would go in a hearbeat

    Even if you disagree with the current POTUS  you have to feel honored to go  to  the White House & what it has symbolized from 1800 until 2009.

    Remember the reason these guys weren't honored right after their  unprecedented accomplishment in the first place is because of another corrupt President riddled with scandals that he was trying to cover up.

    Strange synchronicity that they now would be honored by a corrupt president riddled scandals that he is trying to cover up




    Villemure,

    True, Nixon was in the mists of a scandal,but unlike President Obama he didn't have them to the White House or play the new puppy card to divert attention from the scandal...

    In fact No NFL team had been invited to visit before the ’79' Steelers, and, even then, the annual trips did not begin until President Ronald Reagan (R) hosted the Giants in 1986.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Villemure30:

    I would go in a hearbeat

    Even if you disagree with the current POTUS  you have to feel honored to go  to  the White House & what it has symbolized from 1800 until 2009.

    Remember the reason these guys weren't honored right after their  unprecedented accomplishment in the first place is because of another corrupt President riddled with scandals that he was trying to cover up.

    Strange synchronicity that they now would be honored by a corrupt president riddled scandals that he is trying to cover up




    Villemure,

    True, Nixon was in the mists of a scandal,but unlike President Obama he didn't have them to the White House or play the new puppy card to divert attention from the scandal...

    In fact No NFL team had been invited to visit before the ’79' Steelers, and, even then, the annual trips did not begin until President Ronald Reagan (R) hosted the Giants in 1986.
     
     
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    Posted: Aug. 22, 2013 - 6:37 PM ET #50

    Okay folks, I will take Hillary over the field of Repulsicans, with one stipulation.  If Hillary does not RUN for any reason, health, or decided not to run, or whatever. Then there is NO bet.

    Just as one would bet on,  let's say.. Tiger Woods to win a major next year. If he doesn't go, then the bet is off.

    I'm saying if Hillary runs, BOOK IT. She will beat any repulsican.

    Now let's see who the men of character are.

    Reply

    Okay folks, I will take Hillary over the field of Repulsicans, with one stipulation.  If Hillary does not RUN for any reason, health, or decided not to run, or whatever. Then there is NO bet.

    Just as one would bet on,  let's say.. Tiger Woods to win a major next year. If he doesn't go, then the bet is off.

    I'm saying if Hillary runs, BOOK IT. She will beat any repulsican.

    Now let's see who the men of character are.

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