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    2024 Election and the stark reality

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    joe pockets
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    Posted: Oct. 17, 2024 - 10:33 AM ET #1

    If Donald Trump is elected, his new attorney general will presumably seek the dismissal of the case." That's the ball game. I will always remember when equal justice for all was a main tenet of the greatness of our nation. Maybe someday we would be able to reinstall it. But Republicans hang on to the counter that Democrats don’t face the same prosecution standards! To which any fair minded American would agree ! But prosecution for what crime are they speaking of ? Republican's seem desperate to jail someone but don't seem to have a crime to go with it. 

    Where as in Donald Trump you have a guy that says he did nothing wrong, he sure wants to keep a lot of things hidden from the public. From day one on any item of accusation he has denied, hidden slandered and finally staled in the court with endless delays till he has been found guilty or has opinions reworded or redacted or outright changed though judges he has selected at every level of the countries court system…..This election has Right and Wrong on the ballot! There is no doubt in my mind to who the popular vote winner will be ! But Republican's and there money at the state level has enhanced the ability to gerrymander at levels that have never been better! …..So there is a good chance the vast minority by hook or crook will change democracy and the world standards of NATO as it has worked from conception! It’s all on the line come 11/06/ 2024 with a con man & crook hope to again to hoodwink the nation ! ….Also a Trump loss could send MAGA to the land of the Tea party and allow level minded conservatives to show there faces and not be castigated out of the political arena by a hustler and his angry mislead followers.

     

     

     

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    If Donald Trump is elected, his new attorney general will presumably seek the dismissal of the case." That's the ball game. I will always remember when equal justice for all was a main tenet of the greatness of our nation. Maybe someday we would be able to reinstall it. But Republicans hang on to the counter that Democrats don’t face the same prosecution standards! To which any fair minded American would agree ! But prosecution for what crime are they speaking of ? Republican's seem desperate to jail someone but don't seem to have a crime to go with it. 

    Where as in Donald Trump you have a guy that says he did nothing wrong, he sure wants to keep a lot of things hidden from the public. From day one on any item of accusation he has denied, hidden slandered and finally staled in the court with endless delays till he has been found guilty or has opinions reworded or redacted or outright changed though judges he has selected at every level of the countries court system…..This election has Right and Wrong on the ballot! There is no doubt in my mind to who the popular vote winner will be ! But Republican's and there money at the state level has enhanced the ability to gerrymander at levels that have never been better! …..So there is a good chance the vast minority by hook or crook will change democracy and the world standards of NATO as it has worked from conception! It’s all on the line come 11/06/ 2024 with a con man & crook hope to again to hoodwink the nation ! ….Also a Trump loss could send MAGA to the land of the Tea party and allow level minded conservatives to show there faces and not be castigated out of the political arena by a hustler and his angry mislead followers.

     

     

     

     
    BWS77
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    Posted: Oct. 17, 2024 - 3:25 PM ET #2

    Conservatives need to grow some balls, become the Alpha's they claim they are and take their party back  peace_5     Imagine if they had a viable candidate this time around, would probably be a landslide but they sold their soul to the Orange Devil

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    Conservatives need to grow some balls, become the Alpha's they claim they are and take their party back  peace_5     Imagine if they had a viable candidate this time around, would probably be a landslide but they sold their soul to the Orange Devil

     
    joe pockets
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    Posted: Oct. 17, 2024 - 11:29 PM ET #3

    @BWS77

     There 2 major positions you can count on with Trump 1) He will take 99 1/2 % credit for anything good 2) He will 110 % blame everyone else for failure ! No administration has had so many personally selected staff come out with both barrels on how is so flawed as human being, character and general intelligence of the world of geo- politics!

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    @BWS77

     There 2 major positions you can count on with Trump 1) He will take 99 1/2 % credit for anything good 2) He will 110 % blame everyone else for failure ! No administration has had so many personally selected staff come out with both barrels on how is so flawed as human being, character and general intelligence of the world of geo- politics!

     
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    Posted: Oct. 21, 2024 - 12:03 AM ET #4

    This is a gambling website.  I gamble to earn profit.     Period.

    For the coming election, just as I did in 2020 and the down-ballots in 2022, I'll be putting my money on whomever I believe is most likely to win ..... not the most deserving per se.......not the popular vote per se.......not who is truly the best for the USA and democracy per se..... but who I feel will ultimately garmer the key votes in the swing states, no matter how evil that person may be....

     

    Right now I am LEANING toward a very heavy bet that the CONVICTED FELON/rapist/racist/FASCIST gets the most votes in the swing states to plunge our country into darkness and a new era of  pseudo-FASCISM.....

    football_c1  ...but at least I will PROFIT "bigly" off that if  it happens!  an_happydude                           

     

    As I mentioned twice earlier in the summer, I have been methodically loading up a number of accounts for the big bet - and including numerous side bets on Senate, House, and various props etc. 

    an_lightOf course I want Democracy to prevail and what is best for the country - not MAGA fascism.  HOWEVER, when it comes to betting for profit on the Presidency, I leave my hopes for the country at the door and bet on who I think will get the most votes in the key swing states.  THAT is the key to earning profits in gambling!

    I have not made a firm decision yet and likely won't until the weekend before the event.


     

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    This is a gambling website.  I gamble to earn profit.     Period.

    For the coming election, just as I did in 2020 and the down-ballots in 2022, I'll be putting my money on whomever I believe is most likely to win ..... not the most deserving per se.......not the popular vote per se.......not who is truly the best for the USA and democracy per se..... but who I feel will ultimately garmer the key votes in the swing states, no matter how evil that person may be....

     

    Right now I am LEANING toward a very heavy bet that the CONVICTED FELON/rapist/racist/FASCIST gets the most votes in the swing states to plunge our country into darkness and a new era of  pseudo-FASCISM.....

    football_c1  ...but at least I will PROFIT "bigly" off that if  it happens!  an_happydude                           

     

    As I mentioned twice earlier in the summer, I have been methodically loading up a number of accounts for the big bet - and including numerous side bets on Senate, House, and various props etc. 

    an_lightOf course I want Democracy to prevail and what is best for the country - not MAGA fascism.  HOWEVER, when it comes to betting for profit on the Presidency, I leave my hopes for the country at the door and bet on who I think will get the most votes in the key swing states.  THAT is the key to earning profits in gambling!

    I have not made a firm decision yet and likely won't until the weekend before the event.


     

     
    kcblitzkrieg
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    Posted: Oct. 22, 2024 - 2:32 PM ET #5

    @fubah2

     Right now I am LEANING toward a very heavy bet that the CONVICTED FELON/rapist/racist/FASCIST gets the most votes in the swing states to plunge our country into darkness

     

    Good to see you come around on what is best for the fate of Western Civilization and our Country peace_5

    Time is a flat circle....
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    @fubah2

     Right now I am LEANING toward a very heavy bet that the CONVICTED FELON/rapist/racist/FASCIST gets the most votes in the swing states to plunge our country into darkness

     

    Good to see you come around on what is best for the fate of Western Civilization and our Country peace_5

     
    KellyM_1964
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    Posted: Oct. 22, 2024 - 5:07 PM ET #6

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    This is a gambling website.  I gamble to earn profit.     Period.

    For the coming election, just as I did in 2020 and the down-ballots in 2022, I'll be putting my money on whomever I believe is most likely to win ..... not the most deserving per se.......not the popular vote per se.......not who is truly the best for the USA and democracy per se..... but who I feel will ultimately garmer the key votes in the swing states, no matter how evil that person may be....

     

    Right now I am LEANING toward a very heavy bet that the CONVICTED FELON/rapist/racist/FASCIST gets the most votes in the swing states to plunge our country into darkness and a new era of  pseudo-FASCISM.....

    football_c1  ...but at least I will PROFIT "bigly" off that if  it happens!  an_happydude                           

     

    As I mentioned twice earlier in the summer, I have been methodically loading up a number of accounts for the big bet - and including numerous side bets on Senate, House, and various props etc. 

    an_lightOf course I want Democracy to prevail and what is best for the country - not MAGA fascism.  HOWEVER, when it comes to betting for profit on the Presidency, I leave my hopes for the country at the door and bet on who I think will get the most votes in the key swing states.  THAT is the key to earning profits in gambling!

    I have not made a firm decision yet and likely won't until the weekend before the event.

    .

    @fubah2

     might as well  !   peace_5  if americans r stupid enough to vote for fascism then we might as well  score big profits off their stupidity an_2drinks

    let us know which way u will bet when the time comes  if u choose to bet at all  so we can tail your bet

     

    an_cheers

     

    "I'm the MOST HONEST human being that GOD EVER created!" - Donald "the felon" Trump
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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    This is a gambling website.  I gamble to earn profit.     Period.

    For the coming election, just as I did in 2020 and the down-ballots in 2022, I'll be putting my money on whomever I believe is most likely to win ..... not the most deserving per se.......not the popular vote per se.......not who is truly the best for the USA and democracy per se..... but who I feel will ultimately garmer the key votes in the swing states, no matter how evil that person may be....

     

    Right now I am LEANING toward a very heavy bet that the CONVICTED FELON/rapist/racist/FASCIST gets the most votes in the swing states to plunge our country into darkness and a new era of  pseudo-FASCISM.....

    football_c1  ...but at least I will PROFIT "bigly" off that if  it happens!  an_happydude                           

     

    As I mentioned twice earlier in the summer, I have been methodically loading up a number of accounts for the big bet - and including numerous side bets on Senate, House, and various props etc. 

    an_lightOf course I want Democracy to prevail and what is best for the country - not MAGA fascism.  HOWEVER, when it comes to betting for profit on the Presidency, I leave my hopes for the country at the door and bet on who I think will get the most votes in the key swing states.  THAT is the key to earning profits in gambling!

    I have not made a firm decision yet and likely won't until the weekend before the event.

    .

    @fubah2

     might as well  !   peace_5  if americans r stupid enough to vote for fascism then we might as well  score big profits off their stupidity an_2drinks

    let us know which way u will bet when the time comes  if u choose to bet at all  so we can tail your bet

     

    an_cheers

     

     
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    Posted: Oct. 22, 2024 - 5:29 PM ET #7

    Quote Originally Posted by joe pockets:

    There is no doubt in my mind to who the popular vote winner will be ! But Republican's and there money at the state level has enhanced the ability to gerrymander at levels that have never been better! …..So there is a good chance the vast minority by hook or crook will change democracy

    Indication of failing democracy whenever winner of popular vote loses election.  Unfortunately, US electoral system is outdated with flaws.  Historically in other countries, two parties system tend to become unstable over time.  Fueling more competition and less cooperation than in parliamentary system of most stable democratic countries.  Partisan state legislatures engage in extreme gerrymandering to gain political advantage.  But fairer for non-partisan commissions to draw electoral maps in other countries.  Ideally, every state should be a swing state instead of a few.  Politicians should be appealing to as many voters as possible instead of a minority.  Voters should be choosing leaders instead of leaders choosing voters through gerrymandering.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joe pockets:

    There is no doubt in my mind to who the popular vote winner will be ! But Republican's and there money at the state level has enhanced the ability to gerrymander at levels that have never been better! …..So there is a good chance the vast minority by hook or crook will change democracy

    Indication of failing democracy whenever winner of popular vote loses election.  Unfortunately, US electoral system is outdated with flaws.  Historically in other countries, two parties system tend to become unstable over time.  Fueling more competition and less cooperation than in parliamentary system of most stable democratic countries.  Partisan state legislatures engage in extreme gerrymandering to gain political advantage.  But fairer for non-partisan commissions to draw electoral maps in other countries.  Ideally, every state should be a swing state instead of a few.  Politicians should be appealing to as many voters as possible instead of a minority.  Voters should be choosing leaders instead of leaders choosing voters through gerrymandering.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 22, 2024 - 6:36 PM ET #9

    Quote Originally Posted by joe pockets:

    If Donald Trump is elected, his new attorney general will presumably seek the dismissal of the case." That's the ball game. I will always remember when equal justice for all was a main tenet of the greatness of our nation. Maybe someday we would be able to reinstall it. But Republicans hang on to the counter that Democrats don’t face the same prosecution standards! To which any fair minded American would agree ! But prosecution for what crime are they speaking of ? Republican's seem desperate to jail someone but don't seem to have a crime to go with it.  Where as in Donald Trump you have a guy that says he did nothing wrong, he sure wants to keep a lot of things hidden from the public. From day one on any item of accusation he has denied, hidden slandered and finally staled in the court with endless delays till he has been found guilty or has opinions reworded or redacted or outright changed though judges he has selected at every level of the countries court system…..This election has Right and Wrong on the ballot! There is no doubt in my mind to who the popular vote winner will be ! But Republican's and there money at the state level has enhanced the ability to gerrymander at levels that have never been better! …..So there is a good chance the vast minority by hook or crook will change democracy and the world standards of NATO as it has worked from conception! It’s all on the line come 11/06/ 2024 with a con man & crook hope to again to hoodwink the nation ! ….Also a Trump loss could send MAGA to the land of the Tea party and allow level minded conservatives to show there faces and not be castigated out of the political arena by a hustler and his angry mislead followers.

     

    peace_5

     

     

    "I'm the MOST HONEST human being that GOD EVER created!" - Donald "the felon" Trump
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    Quote Originally Posted by joe pockets:

    If Donald Trump is elected, his new attorney general will presumably seek the dismissal of the case." That's the ball game. I will always remember when equal justice for all was a main tenet of the greatness of our nation. Maybe someday we would be able to reinstall it. But Republicans hang on to the counter that Democrats don’t face the same prosecution standards! To which any fair minded American would agree ! But prosecution for what crime are they speaking of ? Republican's seem desperate to jail someone but don't seem to have a crime to go with it.  Where as in Donald Trump you have a guy that says he did nothing wrong, he sure wants to keep a lot of things hidden from the public. From day one on any item of accusation he has denied, hidden slandered and finally staled in the court with endless delays till he has been found guilty or has opinions reworded or redacted or outright changed though judges he has selected at every level of the countries court system…..This election has Right and Wrong on the ballot! There is no doubt in my mind to who the popular vote winner will be ! But Republican's and there money at the state level has enhanced the ability to gerrymander at levels that have never been better! …..So there is a good chance the vast minority by hook or crook will change democracy and the world standards of NATO as it has worked from conception! It’s all on the line come 11/06/ 2024 with a con man & crook hope to again to hoodwink the nation ! ….Also a Trump loss could send MAGA to the land of the Tea party and allow level minded conservatives to show there faces and not be castigated out of the political arena by a hustler and his angry mislead followers.

     

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    Collin Allred to Ted Cruz during their recent debate.... "On January 6, I got ready to defend my colleagues and texted my wife: “Whatever happens, I love you.” Ted Cruz was hiding in a supply closet. If you summon a mob to overturn a free and fair election, you should lose your job."

    Gotta take out the trash!

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    Collin Allred to Ted Cruz during their recent debate.... "On January 6, I got ready to defend my colleagues and texted my wife: “Whatever happens, I love you.” Ted Cruz was hiding in a supply closet. If you summon a mob to overturn a free and fair election, you should lose your job."

    Gotta take out the trash!

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: This is a gambling website.  I gamble to earn profit.     Period. For the coming election, just as I did in 2020 and the down-ballots in 2022, I'll be putting my money on whomever I believe is most likely to win ..... not the most deserving per se.......not the popular vote per se.......not who is truly the best for the USA and democracy per se..... but who I feel will ultimately garmer the key votes in the swing states, no matter how evil that person may be....   Right now I am LEANING toward a very heavy bet that the CONVICTED FELON/rapist/racist/FASCIST gets the most votes in the swing states to plunge our country into darkness and a new era of  pseudo-FASCISM.....   ...but at least I will PROFIT "bigly" off that if  it happens!                                As I mentioned twice earlier in the summer, I have been methodically loading up a number of accounts for the big bet - and including numerous side bets on Senate, House, and various props etc.  Of course I want Democracy to prevail and what is best for the country - not MAGA fascism.  HOWEVER, when it comes to betting for profit on the Presidency, I leave my hopes for the country at the door and bet on who I think will get the most votes in the key swing states.  THAT is the key to earning profits in gambling! I have not made a firm decision yet and likely won't until the weekend before the event. . @fubah2  might as well  !     if americans r stupid enough to vote for fascism then we might as well  score big profits off their stupidity  let us know which way u will bet when the time comes  if u choose to bet at all  so we can tail your bet Fuck that! I hope you all lose money if you decide betting on that POS.

    @Midnight1

    peace_5Make no mistake - I also hope I lose  if I ultimately choose to bet on the POS winning the election!!!

    In fact I would celebrate that LOSS like on no other occasion! an_happydude

    an_woo  

      

    an_police  I truly HOPE I lose!     (if I make that bet on him)

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: This is a gambling website.  I gamble to earn profit.     Period. For the coming election, just as I did in 2020 and the down-ballots in 2022, I'll be putting my money on whomever I believe is most likely to win ..... not the most deserving per se.......not the popular vote per se.......not who is truly the best for the USA and democracy per se..... but who I feel will ultimately garmer the key votes in the swing states, no matter how evil that person may be....   Right now I am LEANING toward a very heavy bet that the CONVICTED FELON/rapist/racist/FASCIST gets the most votes in the swing states to plunge our country into darkness and a new era of  pseudo-FASCISM.....   ...but at least I will PROFIT "bigly" off that if  it happens!                                As I mentioned twice earlier in the summer, I have been methodically loading up a number of accounts for the big bet - and including numerous side bets on Senate, House, and various props etc.  Of course I want Democracy to prevail and what is best for the country - not MAGA fascism.  HOWEVER, when it comes to betting for profit on the Presidency, I leave my hopes for the country at the door and bet on who I think will get the most votes in the key swing states.  THAT is the key to earning profits in gambling! I have not made a firm decision yet and likely won't until the weekend before the event. . @fubah2  might as well  !     if americans r stupid enough to vote for fascism then we might as well  score big profits off their stupidity  let us know which way u will bet when the time comes  if u choose to bet at all  so we can tail your bet Fuck that! I hope you all lose money if you decide betting on that POS.

    @Midnight1

    peace_5Make no mistake - I also hope I lose  if I ultimately choose to bet on the POS winning the election!!!

    In fact I would celebrate that LOSS like on no other occasion! an_happydude

    an_woo  

      

    an_police  I truly HOPE I lose!     (if I make that bet on him)

     

     
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    @fubah2

     Kinda like seeing Russ Wilson succeed in Pittsburgh..an_wink

    It's ironic what you posted what I tell all the peeps I encounter..."I'm a Fan of the Team that wins me Money" ..an_cheers

    It will all work out..All WE all want is Peace and Prosperity for ALL Americans peace_5

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     Kinda like seeing Russ Wilson succeed in Pittsburgh..an_wink

    It's ironic what you posted what I tell all the peeps I encounter..."I'm a Fan of the Team that wins me Money" ..an_cheers

    It will all work out..All WE all want is Peace and Prosperity for ALL Americans peace_5

     
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    Posted: Oct. 23, 2024 - 11:41 AM ET #13

    @Midnight1

    Do you vote in Michigan or Florida ??

    Did you come around yet on the sad realities of Florida's Amendment 3 ??  Or are you still content not being able to legally grow and giving all the power to the corporate marijuana cartel of FL ??   

    Time is a flat circle....
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    @Midnight1

    Do you vote in Michigan or Florida ??

    Did you come around yet on the sad realities of Florida's Amendment 3 ??  Or are you still content not being able to legally grow and giving all the power to the corporate marijuana cartel of FL ??   

     
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    Posted: Oct. 23, 2024 - 2:20 PM ET #14

    @Midnight1

     Fuck that!

    I hope you all lose money if you decide betting on that POS.

     

    This is bad mojo on covers, wishing people losing bets thumbs_down

    Foops, despite our differences and the fact that you are an imaginary internet person, I sincerely hope you win lots of money betting the election peace_5

    Time is a flat circle....
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    @Midnight1

     Fuck that!

    I hope you all lose money if you decide betting on that POS.

     

    This is bad mojo on covers, wishing people losing bets thumbs_down

    Foops, despite our differences and the fact that you are an imaginary internet person, I sincerely hope you win lots of money betting the election peace_5

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by kcblitzkrieg:

    @Midnight1  Fuck that! I hope you all lose money if you decide betting on that POS.   This is bad mojo on covers, wishing people losing bets  Foops, despite our differences and the fact that you are an imaginary internet person, I sincerely hope you win lots of money betting the election

    I choose country over COVERS

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    Quote Originally Posted by kcblitzkrieg:

    @Midnight1  Fuck that! I hope you all lose money if you decide betting on that POS.   This is bad mojo on covers, wishing people losing bets  Foops, despite our differences and the fact that you are an imaginary internet person, I sincerely hope you win lots of money betting the election

    I choose country over COVERS

     
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    Posted: Oct. 23, 2024 - 3:15 PM ET #16

    @Midnight1

     why are you for the corporate marijuana industry cabal taking over 100% legalization in our great free state of Florida ??  You realize this gives ZERO more tax dollars allocated to the state for education (or anything else related) right?  Why are you against creating a pathway for legalized self grows, just like every single other state allows which has recreational legalization....Florida would be the ONLY state in the union with legalized rec and illegal home grow privileges'.  You are giving the Bayer/Monsanto/Morgan&Morgan corporations all the power.  Vote NO on amendment 3 and we will get a better deal down the road.  

    Time is a flat circle....
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    @Midnight1

     why are you for the corporate marijuana industry cabal taking over 100% legalization in our great free state of Florida ??  You realize this gives ZERO more tax dollars allocated to the state for education (or anything else related) right?  Why are you against creating a pathway for legalized self grows, just like every single other state allows which has recreational legalization....Florida would be the ONLY state in the union with legalized rec and illegal home grow privileges'.  You are giving the Bayer/Monsanto/Morgan&Morgan corporations all the power.  Vote NO on amendment 3 and we will get a better deal down the road.  

     
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    Posted: Oct. 23, 2024 - 3:17 PM ET #17

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    I choose country over COVERS

     

    an_cheers    peace_5   

    country over party !

     

     

     

     

    "I'm the MOST HONEST human being that GOD EVER created!" - Donald "the felon" Trump
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    I choose country over COVERS

     

    an_cheers    peace_5   

    country over party !

     

     

     

     

     
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    Posted: Oct. 23, 2024 - 3:20 PM ET #18

    Quote Originally Posted by kcblitzkrieg:

    @Midnight1 Do you vote in Michigan or Florida ?? Did you come around yet on the sad realities of Florida's Amendment 3 ??  Or are you still content not being able to legally grow and giving all the power to the corporate marijuana cartel of FL ??

    We are residents of Florida & visit Michigan in the summer.

    I am voting No, No , Yes, Yes, No, No on our 6 amendments.

    Regarding Amendment 3, I look forward to the increase in tax dollars as well as not spending a night in jail because I have a couple of joints in my wallet. I think we will get the 60% needed & I also don't expect the black market to go away with this legislation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kcblitzkrieg:

    @Midnight1 Do you vote in Michigan or Florida ?? Did you come around yet on the sad realities of Florida's Amendment 3 ??  Or are you still content not being able to legally grow and giving all the power to the corporate marijuana cartel of FL ??

    We are residents of Florida & visit Michigan in the summer.

    I am voting No, No , Yes, Yes, No, No on our 6 amendments.

    Regarding Amendment 3, I look forward to the increase in tax dollars as well as not spending a night in jail because I have a couple of joints in my wallet. I think we will get the 60% needed & I also don't expect the black market to go away with this legislation.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 23, 2024 - 3:27 PM ET #19

    @Midnight1

     

     You don't go to jail in Florida for minor (joints) misdemeanor possession. 

    You do go to jail in Florida for growing a plant or two in your back yard.  

    We can do better.  

    You can also get a medical license for like $50 a year under current FL law.  Full on possession protection plus access to the great medical stuff.  

    Be well Darkness peace_5

    Time is a flat circle....
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     You don't go to jail in Florida for minor (joints) misdemeanor possession. 

    You do go to jail in Florida for growing a plant or two in your back yard.  

    We can do better.  

    You can also get a medical license for like $50 a year under current FL law.  Full on possession protection plus access to the great medical stuff.  

    Be well Darkness peace_5

     
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    , I choose country over COVERS[/Quote]

    an_roll_laughan_roll_laughan_roll_laugh

    Your FELLOW Degens come first..WTF. ..paint_help

    You'll LOSE All your Harris bets too..What a Terrible Candidate..DJT is GOING to win Popular Vote too...only to repudiate this leftist attempt to overthrow OUR sacred CONSTITUTION and all the personal Freedoms prescribed and DECLARED within...especially  when it comes to the Lefts Attack on FREE Speech via CENSORSHIP..the Biggest failed Attempt on our democracy..ironically, Covers tooquiet

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    , I choose country over COVERS[/Quote]

    an_roll_laughan_roll_laughan_roll_laugh

    Your FELLOW Degens come first..WTF. ..paint_help

    You'll LOSE All your Harris bets too..What a Terrible Candidate..DJT is GOING to win Popular Vote too...only to repudiate this leftist attempt to overthrow OUR sacred CONSTITUTION and all the personal Freedoms prescribed and DECLARED within...especially  when it comes to the Lefts Attack on FREE Speech via CENSORSHIP..the Biggest failed Attempt on our democracy..ironically, Covers tooquiet

    peace

     
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    Los Angeles times give 10 reasons to not vote for Trump.  1 As president, he violated his oath to preserve US constitution.  2 He has eroded American faith in elections and democracy.  3 He will held accountable for alleged crimes only if he is defeated.  4 He is the first president to have a serious record of violating laws.  5 He is unfit to be president.  6 He is a threat to national security.  7 He doesn't know or care about how to solve US problems.  8 He would further pack federal courts with right wing extremists.  9 He's a pathological liar.  10 He wouldn't be a president for all Americans.

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    Los Angeles times give 10 reasons to not vote for Trump.  1 As president, he violated his oath to preserve US constitution.  2 He has eroded American faith in elections and democracy.  3 He will held accountable for alleged crimes only if he is defeated.  4 He is the first president to have a serious record of violating laws.  5 He is unfit to be president.  6 He is a threat to national security.  7 He doesn't know or care about how to solve US problems.  8 He would further pack federal courts with right wing extremists.  9 He's a pathological liar.  10 He wouldn't be a president for all Americans.

     
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    Los Angeles times give 10 reasons to vote for Harris.  1 She has a good resume for the job.  More government experience than either Clinton, Bush, Obama or Trump.  2 She is a consensus oriented pragmatist with the widest coalition in US history.  3 She would choose competent public servants for administration.  Unlike Trump's preference for corrupt loyalists.  4 She would allow Trump to be held accountable in courts.  5 Economists determine that she has better policies for US economy.  6 She would build on Biden's climate change initiatives.  7 She would support democracy and international agreements.  8 She would choose diverse mainstream nominees for federal courts.  9 She would be a president for all Americans.  10  She isn't Trump.

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    Los Angeles times give 10 reasons to vote for Harris.  1 She has a good resume for the job.  More government experience than either Clinton, Bush, Obama or Trump.  2 She is a consensus oriented pragmatist with the widest coalition in US history.  3 She would choose competent public servants for administration.  Unlike Trump's preference for corrupt loyalists.  4 She would allow Trump to be held accountable in courts.  5 Economists determine that she has better policies for US economy.  6 She would build on Biden's climate change initiatives.  7 She would support democracy and international agreements.  8 She would choose diverse mainstream nominees for federal courts.  9 She would be a president for all Americans.  10  She isn't Trump.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Los Angeles times give 10 reasons to vote for Harris.  1 She has a good resume for the job.  More government experience than either Clinton, Bush, Obama or Trump.  2 She is a consensus oriented pragmatist with the widest coalition in US history.  3 She would choose competent public servants for administration.  Unlike Trump's preference for corrupt loyalists.  4 She would allow Trump to be held accountable in courts.  5 Economists determine that she has better policies for US economy.  6 She would build on Biden's climate change initiatives.  7 She would support democracy and international agreements.  8 She would choose diverse mainstream nominees for federal courts.  9 She would be a president for all Americans.  10  She isn't Trump.
    an_roll_laugh

     Good lord, man....do you believe all that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Los Angeles times give 10 reasons to vote for Harris.  1 She has a good resume for the job.  More government experience than either Clinton, Bush, Obama or Trump.  2 She is a consensus oriented pragmatist with the widest coalition in US history.  3 She would choose competent public servants for administration.  Unlike Trump's preference for corrupt loyalists.  4 She would allow Trump to be held accountable in courts.  5 Economists determine that she has better policies for US economy.  6 She would build on Biden's climate change initiatives.  7 She would support democracy and international agreements.  8 She would choose diverse mainstream nominees for federal courts.  9 She would be a president for all Americans.  10  She isn't Trump.
    an_roll_laugh

     Good lord, man....do you believe all that?

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Los Angeles times give 10 reasons to not vote for Trump.  1 As president, he violated his oath to preserve US constitution.  2 He has eroded American faith in elections and democracy.  3 He will held accountable for alleged crimes only if he is defeated.  4 He is the first president to have a serious record of violating laws.  5 He is unfit to be president.  6 He is a threat to national security.  7 He doesn't know or care about how to solve US problems.  8 He would further pack federal courts with right wing extremists.  9 He's a pathological liar.  10 He wouldn't be a president for all Americans.

    peace_5

    I can offer several more reasons to NOT vote for the convicted felon ...

     

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Los Angeles times give 10 reasons to not vote for Trump.  1 As president, he violated his oath to preserve US constitution.  2 He has eroded American faith in elections and democracy.  3 He will held accountable for alleged crimes only if he is defeated.  4 He is the first president to have a serious record of violating laws.  5 He is unfit to be president.  6 He is a threat to national security.  7 He doesn't know or care about how to solve US problems.  8 He would further pack federal courts with right wing extremists.  9 He's a pathological liar.  10 He wouldn't be a president for all Americans.

    peace_5

    I can offer several more reasons to NOT vote for the convicted felon ...

     

     

     

     
     
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