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    nature1970
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    Posted: Nov. 9, 2020 - 10:22 PM ET #101

    Do you understand the clarification .

    if there is clear and apparent credibility

    This isn't a fisa fishing warrant....

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    Do you understand the clarification .

    if there is clear and apparent credibility

    This isn't a fisa fishing warrant....

     
    nature1970
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    Posted: Nov. 9, 2020 - 10:22 PM ET #102

    And could change the outcome....

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    And could change the outcome....

     
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    Posted: Nov. 9, 2020 - 10:31 PM ET #103

    This is from someone who has defended and challenged voting concerns across the country..

    First, vote fraud happens. It happens in almost every election. But it is rarely enough to throw out even local races. But let's take Trump v. Biden in Michigan.

    Right now in Michigan, Joe Biden leads Donald Trump by 146,137 votes. If Republicans find 50,000 fraudulent votes in Michigan, Joe Biden would still lead by 96,137 votes. But wait, there's more…

    37,706 people chose not to participate in the presidential election in Michigan, so the President's lawyers have to either find 146,137 votes that they are 100% sure were cast fraudulently in the presidential race or they have to find 183,843 fraudulent total votes because you aren't allowed to ask anyone how they voted. And that's just Michigan. If they proved that, then they'd subtract 16 electoral votes from Joe Biden. Assuming Biden has Georgia, he's still over 270. So now rinse and repeat for PA.

    The President's team can't just throw out the votes in one state, but must do the same thing in each state over 270 electoral college votes.

    It is not enough to show voter fraud. The standard is voter fraud to an extent that casts doubt on the election. That standard means the margin of the vote if proven specifically or the margin of the vote + margin of votes not cast in that race. It is very tough.

    Absolutely, we are going to find voter fraud. It happens every election. The question is how much and I've never seen voter fraud in the hundred thousand vote range. Hell, I've never seen it in the 10s of thousands vote range.

    All of that is to say Joe Biden is President-Elect of the United States and it is not going to change.

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    This is from someone who has defended and challenged voting concerns across the country..

    First, vote fraud happens. It happens in almost every election. But it is rarely enough to throw out even local races. But let's take Trump v. Biden in Michigan.

    Right now in Michigan, Joe Biden leads Donald Trump by 146,137 votes. If Republicans find 50,000 fraudulent votes in Michigan, Joe Biden would still lead by 96,137 votes. But wait, there's more…

    37,706 people chose not to participate in the presidential election in Michigan, so the President's lawyers have to either find 146,137 votes that they are 100% sure were cast fraudulently in the presidential race or they have to find 183,843 fraudulent total votes because you aren't allowed to ask anyone how they voted. And that's just Michigan. If they proved that, then they'd subtract 16 electoral votes from Joe Biden. Assuming Biden has Georgia, he's still over 270. So now rinse and repeat for PA.

    The President's team can't just throw out the votes in one state, but must do the same thing in each state over 270 electoral college votes.

    It is not enough to show voter fraud. The standard is voter fraud to an extent that casts doubt on the election. That standard means the margin of the vote if proven specifically or the margin of the vote + margin of votes not cast in that race. It is very tough.

    Absolutely, we are going to find voter fraud. It happens every election. The question is how much and I've never seen voter fraud in the hundred thousand vote range. Hell, I've never seen it in the 10s of thousands vote range.

    All of that is to say Joe Biden is President-Elect of the United States and it is not going to change.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 9, 2020 - 10:39 PM ET #104

    @midnight which means less than 1 percent chance.

    Somehow McConnell fox the Republican party and the entirety of the Republican party is risking Georgia and control of the Senate for that... Damn whom ever believes the cavalry coming for Trump is not thinking clearly.

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    @midnight which means less than 1 percent chance.

    Somehow McConnell fox the Republican party and the entirety of the Republican party is risking Georgia and control of the Senate for that... Damn whom ever believes the cavalry coming for Trump is not thinking clearly.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 9, 2020 - 10:44 PM ET #105

    Hard to believe! A system 'glitch' in Wisconsin.The 'glitch' moves 19,032 votes from Biden to Trump.

    The finale to this saga will be ACB casting the deciding vote preserving the Trump Presidency.

     

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    Hard to believe! A system 'glitch' in Wisconsin.The 'glitch' moves 19,032 votes from Biden to Trump.

    The finale to this saga will be ACB casting the deciding vote preserving the Trump Presidency.

     

     
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    Posted: Nov. 9, 2020 - 10:51 PM ET #106

    I worked up a sweat tonight in the politics forum on covers. It was a lot of fun tonight. Ok

    After everything has been said and done tonight.

    We do not have a President elect. What do we call Joe in the position he is in?

     

     

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    I worked up a sweat tonight in the politics forum on covers. It was a lot of fun tonight. Ok

    After everything has been said and done tonight.

    We do not have a President elect. What do we call Joe in the position he is in?

     

     

     
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    Posted: Nov. 9, 2020 - 10:53 PM ET #107

    Well if you have to use a clarified for the cause of justice.

    Alleged president elect suit you ?

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    Well if you have to use a clarified for the cause of justice.

    Alleged president elect suit you ?

     
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    Posted: Nov. 9, 2020 - 11:02 PM ET #108

    Yes it does nature! Good enough! Friendly bet nature. If I ever get to Maine. I have Trump winning for the best steak dinner in town.

    peace_5

     

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    Yes it does nature! Good enough! Friendly bet nature. If I ever get to Maine. I have Trump winning for the best steak dinner in town.

    peace_5

     

     
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    Posted: Nov. 9, 2020 - 11:03 PM ET #109

    Ok roys steak house minot ave auburn...

    Steak dinner if you ever make it to God's country...

    Biden Trump social bet.

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    Ok roys steak house minot ave auburn...

    Steak dinner if you ever make it to God's country...

    Biden Trump social bet.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 9, 2020 - 11:04 PM ET #110

    peace_5

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    peace_5

     
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    Posted: Nov. 9, 2020 - 11:14 PM ET #111

    Quote Originally Posted by sundance:

    I worked up a sweat tonight in the politics forum on covers. It was a lot of fun tonight. Ok After everything has been said and done tonight. We do not have a President elect. What do we call Joe in the position he is in?

    I'm sure if someone told Joe this was all a dream and that his basement is 72 degrees, he would just go back to sleep. So it's still Sleepy Joe for me.

    Gamble for entertainment, invest for wealth!
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    Quote Originally Posted by sundance:

    I worked up a sweat tonight in the politics forum on covers. It was a lot of fun tonight. Ok After everything has been said and done tonight. We do not have a President elect. What do we call Joe in the position he is in?

    I'm sure if someone told Joe this was all a dream and that his basement is 72 degrees, he would just go back to sleep. So it's still Sleepy Joe for me.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 9, 2020 - 11:29 PM ET #112

    Biden is not the President elect currently

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    Biden is not the President elect currently

     
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    Posted: Nov. 9, 2020 - 11:33 PM ET #113

    Gambleholic peace_5

    Tuck IMHO.   No he is not! an_horse

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    Gambleholic peace_5

    Tuck IMHO.   No he is not! an_horse

     
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    Posted: Nov. 9, 2020 - 11:34 PM ET #114

    Quote Originally Posted by undefined:

    Quote Originally Posted by sundance: I worked up a sweat tonight in the politics forum on covers. It was a lot of fun tonight. Ok After everything has been said and done tonight. We do not have a President elect. What do we call Joe in the position he is in? I'm sure if someone told Joe this was all a dream and that his basement is 72 degrees, he would just go back to sleep. So it's still Sleepy Joe for me.

    He could...

    If the phone could stop ringing every leader in world is wants to talk with the man. Do they understand hey damn near midnight eastern standard time

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    Quote Originally Posted by undefined:

    Quote Originally Posted by sundance: I worked up a sweat tonight in the politics forum on covers. It was a lot of fun tonight. Ok After everything has been said and done tonight. We do not have a President elect. What do we call Joe in the position he is in? I'm sure if someone told Joe this was all a dream and that his basement is 72 degrees, he would just go back to sleep. So it's still Sleepy Joe for me.

    He could...

    If the phone could stop ringing every leader in world is wants to talk with the man. Do they understand hey damn near midnight eastern standard time

     
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    Posted: Nov. 9, 2020 - 11:51 PM ET #115

    DOJ Bill Barr's top elections crimes prosecutor just resigned in protest over election investigation. an_roll_laugh

    Sounds like he was in charge of a totally legit, non-partisan investigation into election fraud.an_roll_laugh

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    DOJ Bill Barr's top elections crimes prosecutor just resigned in protest over election investigation. an_roll_laugh

    Sounds like he was in charge of a totally legit, non-partisan investigation into election fraud.an_roll_laugh

     
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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2020 - 1:41 AM ET #116

    @DeezyAZ81

     why are you even posting if you are so sure its a w?  Don't waste your time enjoy the win, move on let others believe what they want.

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    @DeezyAZ81

     why are you even posting if you are so sure its a w?  Don't waste your time enjoy the win, move on let others believe what they want.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by lordbettington:

    @DeezyAZ81  why are you even posting if you are so sure its a w?  Don't waste your time enjoy the win, move on let others believe what they want.

    Why do you care? Let others believe conspiracy theories, which undermine democratic elections? What is the purpose of that? 

    That is the problem today, there is one truth everyone should be paying attention to. That is that Biden won a legitimate election. an_light

    Everything else is nonsense and a waste of time. an_light

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    Quote Originally Posted by lordbettington:

    @DeezyAZ81  why are you even posting if you are so sure its a w?  Don't waste your time enjoy the win, move on let others believe what they want.

    Why do you care? Let others believe conspiracy theories, which undermine democratic elections? What is the purpose of that? 

    That is the problem today, there is one truth everyone should be paying attention to. That is that Biden won a legitimate election. an_light

    Everything else is nonsense and a waste of time. an_light

     
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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2020 - 2:52 AM ET #118

    @DeezyAZ81

     If they are conspiracy theories then why post?  count your winnings from your bets, if they paid them out yet?  If you obviously won you should be happy right?  When I win a bet on a nfl game and people post that it was rigged (the eagles cowboys sunday night  recently for example)  I don't keep bothering the posters who feel like it was rigged for days after, I eventually move on to the next bet.  You should be celebrating that the orange man lost.

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    @DeezyAZ81

     If they are conspiracy theories then why post?  count your winnings from your bets, if they paid them out yet?  If you obviously won you should be happy right?  When I win a bet on a nfl game and people post that it was rigged (the eagles cowboys sunday night  recently for example)  I don't keep bothering the posters who feel like it was rigged for days after, I eventually move on to the next bet.  You should be celebrating that the orange man lost.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2020 - 2:57 AM ET #119

    Quote Originally Posted by lordbettington:

    @DeezyAZ81  If they are conspiracy theories then why post?  count your winnings from your bets, if they paid them out yet?  If you obviously won you should be happy right?  When I win a bet on a nfl game and people post that it was rigged (the eagles cowboys sunday night  recently for example)  I don't keep bothering the posters who feel like it was rigged for days after, I eventually move on to the next bet.  You should be celebrating that the orange man lost.

    Why not? Isn't this an open forum to discuss events in politics? I am free to post, and will continue to do so. I enjoy clowning those that believe in conspiracy theories. You have the freedom to skip over my posts if it triggers you. peace_5

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    Quote Originally Posted by lordbettington:

    @DeezyAZ81  If they are conspiracy theories then why post?  count your winnings from your bets, if they paid them out yet?  If you obviously won you should be happy right?  When I win a bet on a nfl game and people post that it was rigged (the eagles cowboys sunday night  recently for example)  I don't keep bothering the posters who feel like it was rigged for days after, I eventually move on to the next bet.  You should be celebrating that the orange man lost.

    Why not? Isn't this an open forum to discuss events in politics? I am free to post, and will continue to do so. I enjoy clowning those that believe in conspiracy theories. You have the freedom to skip over my posts if it triggers you. peace_5

     
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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2020 - 3:06 AM ET #120

    @DeezyAZ81

     not triggered, keep posting if you likepeace_5

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    @DeezyAZ81

     not triggered, keep posting if you likepeace_5

     
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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2020 - 7:57 AM ET #121

    Quote Originally Posted by sundance:

    Yes it does nature! Good enough! Friendly bet nature. If I ever get to Maine. I have Trump winning for the best steak dinner in town.
    headed to Georgia. 

    While I am out and about on this grand adventure might be in around Chicago in January. 

    We might have dinner then old boy....

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    Quote Originally Posted by sundance:

    Yes it does nature! Good enough! Friendly bet nature. If I ever get to Maine. I have Trump winning for the best steak dinner in town.
    headed to Georgia. 

    While I am out and about on this grand adventure might be in around Chicago in January. 

    We might have dinner then old boy....

     
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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2020 - 8:00 AM ET #122

    Detroit Poll watcher: At 4:30 a.m. on Nov. 4 "tens of thousands of ballots" delivered from out-of-state

    "Unlike the other ballots, these boxes were brought in from the rear of the room"

    "I specifically noticed every ballot I observed was cast for Joe Biden"

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    Detroit Poll watcher: At 4:30 a.m. on Nov. 4 "tens of thousands of ballots" delivered from out-of-state

    "Unlike the other ballots, these boxes were brought in from the rear of the room"

    "I specifically noticed every ballot I observed was cast for Joe Biden"

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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    Detroit Poll watcher: At 4:30 a.m. on Nov. 4 "tens of thousands of ballots" delivered from out-of-state "Unlike the other ballots, these boxes were brought in from the rear of the room" "I specifically noticed every ballot I observed was cast for Joe Biden"

    This poll watcher has some serious skill. He watched tens of thousands of ballots all count for Biden. That takes serious focus and grit in one sitting. I thought Poll watchers were not given proper access to see what was going on though? How could he possibly be close to see that every single ballot of tens of thousands was in favor of Biden??? confusedsleep2

    This stupid story sounds like it is right of Rudy G's latest book of tall tales. sleep2

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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    Detroit Poll watcher: At 4:30 a.m. on Nov. 4 "tens of thousands of ballots" delivered from out-of-state "Unlike the other ballots, these boxes were brought in from the rear of the room" "I specifically noticed every ballot I observed was cast for Joe Biden"

    This poll watcher has some serious skill. He watched tens of thousands of ballots all count for Biden. That takes serious focus and grit in one sitting. I thought Poll watchers were not given proper access to see what was going on though? How could he possibly be close to see that every single ballot of tens of thousands was in favor of Biden??? confusedsleep2

    This stupid story sounds like it is right of Rudy G's latest book of tall tales. sleep2

     
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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2020 - 11:37 AM ET #124

    @DeezyAZ81

     Once again, you simply can't comprehend what you read. Go ahead and read it again or maybe 5 more times. We all understand your struggles. 

     

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    @DeezyAZ81

     Once again, you simply can't comprehend what you read. Go ahead and read it again or maybe 5 more times. We all understand your struggles. 

     

     
     
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    I am all for letting this situation play itself out. Rooting out corruption is something all American people should be for. If no corruption is found and the Biden win becomes certified, then every American will have an added layer of confidence that the winner is not tainted. 

    I don't like Biden. He's simply not up to the task of leading this country, but I will accept him as my president if he is certified as the winner. 

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    I am all for letting this situation play itself out. Rooting out corruption is something all American people should be for. If no corruption is found and the Biden win becomes certified, then every American will have an added layer of confidence that the winner is not tainted. 

    I don't like Biden. He's simply not up to the task of leading this country, but I will accept him as my president if he is certified as the winner. 

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