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    Mack05
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    Posted: Jul. 3, 2010 - 8:36 PM ET #1

    1) Uruguay v Holland.

    When I first saw this line my reaction was not only take Holland but take Holland -1. Uruguay without Suarez, Holland the form team.

    I have since had a rethink. Not brilliant capping from me here by any means but I think this game goes under 2.5 goals and here is why. Two teams no really expected to be here this far. Both teams are under the most enormous pressure. For Uruguay the controversy of Suarez's actions will plague them for next few days. There has been a huge outcry against them. This could have a negative impact on the team but I don't believe it will. I think in a way it will even galvanise them even more. Us against the world type of attitude.

    Uruguay have for the most part, been strong at the back. With the occasion (so much at stake) I expect them to play very much like Paraguay did tonight and keep the game close, for as long as possible. The Dutch looked good in attack in the group stages but against weak teams defensively, let's be honest here. Against Brazil were not very creative. A Flukey first goal and a set piece second goal. Add this to the fact Suarez is not around, I find it hard to where the goals will come from for Uruguay.

    I think the pressure of the occasion and the fact Uruguay will go back to their old negative ways means I will be playing the under 2.5 goals here @ -180. I am not as confident as I was about tonight's under, because an early goal for Holland could see them coast this game, but when you add everything up I think this is the best play for this game..I wouldn't tail me big here. I think there is a futures bet that has far more appeal. See below..

    2) Germany v Spain

    I am the wrong guy to be capping this game. I have been down on both teams chances all along, and now I truly believe the winner of this match will win the world cup. Truth is I haven't a clue who is going to win it. Spain are European champions and beat Germany in that final. Germany have been the form team so far. So how you can confidently cap this game? In truth I can't.

    The +200 on both of them to win World cup outright is tempting to take a stab, because however wins will start off quite warm favourites for the final. I am not going to back bets on guess work, so my plan will be to bet big on the winners of this match to lift the trophy (sadly at far worse odds then the +200 right now). I hope Holland beats Uruguay as I will get a better line and that is what I am banking on.

    The game itself is fascinating. If Germany starts off the way it has been, then I could see a game where they lead 1-0 till about 5 minutes to go and get a 2nd breakaway goal to win 2-0. Still, I can't get away from history. Germany have been in so many games at that stage of major tournaments that have had nothing but drama. I think Wednesday will be the most dramatic night of the world cup so far and I think it takes longer then 90 minutes to sort these 2 out. My play on this game will be Germany and Spain to draw @ +220..Will also play a small saver on the game to go to penalties @ +900.

    If I had to pick to qualify I would lean towards Spain, but no way in hell I would back it. My plan will be to bet big on the winner to lift the trophy. If I can get around -225 for that bet I would be thrilled, but I need Holland to win and maybe win handily (which screws my first bet above)...If I get -300/-400 I will have to think long and hard.

    Nice and Early..Good Luck with your plays

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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.

    1) Uruguay v Holland.

    When I first saw this line my reaction was not only take Holland but take Holland -1. Uruguay without Suarez, Holland the form team.

    I have since had a rethink. Not brilliant capping from me here by any means but I think this game goes under 2.5 goals and here is why. Two teams no really expected to be here this far. Both teams are under the most enormous pressure. For Uruguay the controversy of Suarez's actions will plague them for next few days. There has been a huge outcry against them. This could have a negative impact on the team but I don't believe it will. I think in a way it will even galvanise them even more. Us against the world type of attitude.

    Uruguay have for the most part, been strong at the back. With the occasion (so much at stake) I expect them to play very much like Paraguay did tonight and keep the game close, for as long as possible. The Dutch looked good in attack in the group stages but against weak teams defensively, let's be honest here. Against Brazil were not very creative. A Flukey first goal and a set piece second goal. Add this to the fact Suarez is not around, I find it hard to where the goals will come from for Uruguay.

    I think the pressure of the occasion and the fact Uruguay will go back to their old negative ways means I will be playing the under 2.5 goals here @ -180. I am not as confident as I was about tonight's under, because an early goal for Holland could see them coast this game, but when you add everything up I think this is the best play for this game..I wouldn't tail me big here. I think there is a futures bet that has far more appeal. See below..

    2) Germany v Spain

    I am the wrong guy to be capping this game. I have been down on both teams chances all along, and now I truly believe the winner of this match will win the world cup. Truth is I haven't a clue who is going to win it. Spain are European champions and beat Germany in that final. Germany have been the form team so far. So how you can confidently cap this game? In truth I can't.

    The +200 on both of them to win World cup outright is tempting to take a stab, because however wins will start off quite warm favourites for the final. I am not going to back bets on guess work, so my plan will be to bet big on the winners of this match to lift the trophy (sadly at far worse odds then the +200 right now). I hope Holland beats Uruguay as I will get a better line and that is what I am banking on.

    The game itself is fascinating. If Germany starts off the way it has been, then I could see a game where they lead 1-0 till about 5 minutes to go and get a 2nd breakaway goal to win 2-0. Still, I can't get away from history. Germany have been in so many games at that stage of major tournaments that have had nothing but drama. I think Wednesday will be the most dramatic night of the world cup so far and I think it takes longer then 90 minutes to sort these 2 out. My play on this game will be Germany and Spain to draw @ +220..Will also play a small saver on the game to go to penalties @ +900.

    If I had to pick to qualify I would lean towards Spain, but no way in hell I would back it. My plan will be to bet big on the winner to lift the trophy. If I can get around -225 for that bet I would be thrilled, but I need Holland to win and maybe win handily (which screws my first bet above)...If I get -300/-400 I will have to think long and hard.

    Nice and Early..Good Luck with your plays

     
    Mack05
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    Posted: Jul. 3, 2010 - 8:53 PM ET #2

    Going to take a stab at Germany or Spain +200 to win it all (have to when I am considering the bad odds, I am bound to get in the final). Instead of guess work, going to use this forum and its cappers to help me make a final decision..

    Here is where this forum can be REALLY helpful. I can't cap this game, but I am huge on the winner to take it all. Interesting to see people's thoughts..

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    Going to take a stab at Germany or Spain +200 to win it all (have to when I am considering the bad odds, I am bound to get in the final). Instead of guess work, going to use this forum and its cappers to help me make a final decision..

    Here is where this forum can be REALLY helpful. I can't cap this game, but I am huge on the winner to take it all. Interesting to see people's thoughts..

     
    TheSource2Win
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    Posted: Jul. 3, 2010 - 9:17 PM ET #3

    I believe Netherlands v.s. Whoever in the final will be a Whoever favored by -140 tops.  You are underestimating the Dutch, spead-wise... a lot.

    -300 or -400????  You are talking like they'd be playing Nigeria in the final.

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    I believe Netherlands v.s. Whoever in the final will be a Whoever favored by -140 tops.  You are underestimating the Dutch, spead-wise... a lot.

    -300 or -400????  You are talking like they'd be playing Nigeria in the final.

     
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    Posted: Jul. 3, 2010 - 9:53 PM ET #4

    I said it already in I Got threads.

    If I was going to play(might still do it) a future on someone to win, it would only be germany.

    I know Mueller out is not a great thing, but overall, there team plays just like that, a team.

    There was a very close chance para had a lead twice today. germany's only loss was when they had 10 men.

    They have not been put in a whole yet, and thats scary. look at what happened to Tina 1st time.

    I really think its an Under game to be honest
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    I said it already in I Got threads.

    If I was going to play(might still do it) a future on someone to win, it would only be germany.

    I know Mueller out is not a great thing, but overall, there team plays just like that, a team.

    There was a very close chance para had a lead twice today. germany's only loss was when they had 10 men.

    They have not been put in a whole yet, and thats scary. look at what happened to Tina 1st time.

    I really think its an Under game to be honest
     
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    Posted: Jul. 3, 2010 - 10:55 PM ET #5

    I really like Netherlands.  The other game is such a toss up.  It'll either be an Under or... if there's an early goal, it could be a 3-2 classic. 
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    I really like Netherlands.  The other game is such a toss up.  It'll either be an Under or... if there's an early goal, it could be a 3-2 classic. 
     
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    Posted: Jul. 3, 2010 - 11:43 PM ET #6

    Imo,the real Spain will show up on wednesday and will beat solid German side.Hopefully we will see a cracking game
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    Imo,the real Spain will show up on wednesday and will beat solid German side.Hopefully we will see a cracking game
     
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    Posted: Jul. 4, 2010 - 12:01 AM ET #7

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    Posted: Jul. 4, 2010 - 12:28 AM ET #8

    Mack, do you remember me? I lost 1.8k and you advised me not to go all in on England the other day. Thanks for that! When can I start tailing you? But are you going tout? I see a lot of successful cappers who became tout after that. I do not have the cash to afford your services you know.
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    Mack, do you remember me? I lost 1.8k and you advised me not to go all in on England the other day. Thanks for that! When can I start tailing you? But are you going tout? I see a lot of successful cappers who became tout after that. I do not have the cash to afford your services you know.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 4, 2010 - 1:08 AM ET #9

    the dutch 2-0 if not 1-0. Just too skilled. They beat brazil in a 45 minute game. Imagine if they had that intesity the whole game. Just my thoughts
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    the dutch 2-0 if not 1-0. Just too skilled. They beat brazil in a 45 minute game. Imagine if they had that intesity the whole game. Just my thoughts
     
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    Posted: Jul. 4, 2010 - 5:10 AM ET #10

    Quote Originally Posted by Mack05:

    1) Uruguay v Holland.

    When I first saw this line my reaction was not only take Holland but take Holland -1. Uruguay without Suarez, Holland the form team.

    I have since had a rethink. Not brilliant capping from me here by any means but I think this game goes under 2.5 goals and here is why. Two teams no really expected to be here this far. Both teams are under the most enormous pressure. For Uruguay the controversy of Suarez's actions will plague them for next few days. There has been a huge outcry against them. This could have a negative impact on the team but I don't believe it will. I think in a way it will even galvanise them even more. Us against the world type of attitude.

    Uruguay have for the most part, been strong at the back. With the occasion (so much at stake) I expect them to play very much like Paraguay did tonight and keep the game close, for as long as possible. The Dutch looked good in attack in the group stages but against weak teams defensively, let's be honest here. Against Brazil were not very creative. A Flukey first goal and a set piece second goal. Add this to the fact Suarez is not around, I find it hard to where the goals will come from for Uruguay.

    I think the pressure of the occasion and the fact Uruguay will go back to their old negative ways means I will be playing the under 2.5 goals here @ -180. I am not as confident as I was about tonight's under, because an early goal for Holland could see them coast this game, but when you add everything up I think this is the best play for this game..I wouldn't tail me big here. I think there is a futures bet that has far more appeal. See below..

    2) Germany v Spain

    I am the wrong guy to be capping this game. I have been down on both teams chances all along, and now I truly believe the winner of this match will win the world cup. Truth is I haven't a clue who is going to win it. Spain are European champions and beat Germany in that final. Germany have been the form team so far. So how you can confidently cap this game? In truth I can't.

    The +200 on both of them to win World cup outright is tempting to take a stab, because however wins will start off quite warm favourites for the final. I am not going to back bets on guess work, so my plan will be to bet big on the winners of this match to lift the trophy (sadly at far worse odds then the +200 right now). I hope Holland beats Uruguay as I will get a better line and that is what I am banking on.

    The game itself is fascinating. If Germany starts off the way it has been, then I could see a game where they lead 1-0 till about 5 minutes to go and get a 2nd breakaway goal to win 2-0. Still, I can't get away from history. Germany have been in so many games at that stage of major tournaments that have had nothing but drama. I think Wednesday will be the most dramatic night of the world cup so far and I think it takes longer then 90 minutes to sort these 2 out. My play on this game will be Germany and Spain to draw @ +220..Will also play a small saver on the game to go to penalties @ +900.

    If I had to pick to qualify I would lean towards Spain, but no way in hell I would back it. My plan will be to bet big on the winner to lift the trophy. If I can get around -225 for that bet I would be thrilled, but I need Holland to win and maybe win handily (which screws my first bet above)...If I get -300/-400 I will have to think long and hard.

    Nice and Early..Good Luck with your plays

    if you take right now germany and spain to win the world cup, its like covering 24 numbers in roulette about -200
    because each team pays about +200, so already backing one of those two teams to lift the world cup paying -200
    so if you wait that holland passes to final , you can have better odds, wating the winner of germany, spain game.
    in case uruguay passes , better take now spain or germany to win the cup pratically at -200...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mack05:

    1) Uruguay v Holland.

    When I first saw this line my reaction was not only take Holland but take Holland -1. Uruguay without Suarez, Holland the form team.

    I have since had a rethink. Not brilliant capping from me here by any means but I think this game goes under 2.5 goals and here is why. Two teams no really expected to be here this far. Both teams are under the most enormous pressure. For Uruguay the controversy of Suarez's actions will plague them for next few days. There has been a huge outcry against them. This could have a negative impact on the team but I don't believe it will. I think in a way it will even galvanise them even more. Us against the world type of attitude.

    Uruguay have for the most part, been strong at the back. With the occasion (so much at stake) I expect them to play very much like Paraguay did tonight and keep the game close, for as long as possible. The Dutch looked good in attack in the group stages but against weak teams defensively, let's be honest here. Against Brazil were not very creative. A Flukey first goal and a set piece second goal. Add this to the fact Suarez is not around, I find it hard to where the goals will come from for Uruguay.

    I think the pressure of the occasion and the fact Uruguay will go back to their old negative ways means I will be playing the under 2.5 goals here @ -180. I am not as confident as I was about tonight's under, because an early goal for Holland could see them coast this game, but when you add everything up I think this is the best play for this game..I wouldn't tail me big here. I think there is a futures bet that has far more appeal. See below..

    2) Germany v Spain

    I am the wrong guy to be capping this game. I have been down on both teams chances all along, and now I truly believe the winner of this match will win the world cup. Truth is I haven't a clue who is going to win it. Spain are European champions and beat Germany in that final. Germany have been the form team so far. So how you can confidently cap this game? In truth I can't.

    The +200 on both of them to win World cup outright is tempting to take a stab, because however wins will start off quite warm favourites for the final. I am not going to back bets on guess work, so my plan will be to bet big on the winners of this match to lift the trophy (sadly at far worse odds then the +200 right now). I hope Holland beats Uruguay as I will get a better line and that is what I am banking on.

    The game itself is fascinating. If Germany starts off the way it has been, then I could see a game where they lead 1-0 till about 5 minutes to go and get a 2nd breakaway goal to win 2-0. Still, I can't get away from history. Germany have been in so many games at that stage of major tournaments that have had nothing but drama. I think Wednesday will be the most dramatic night of the world cup so far and I think it takes longer then 90 minutes to sort these 2 out. My play on this game will be Germany and Spain to draw @ +220..Will also play a small saver on the game to go to penalties @ +900.

    If I had to pick to qualify I would lean towards Spain, but no way in hell I would back it. My plan will be to bet big on the winner to lift the trophy. If I can get around -225 for that bet I would be thrilled, but I need Holland to win and maybe win handily (which screws my first bet above)...If I get -300/-400 I will have to think long and hard.

    Nice and Early..Good Luck with your plays

    if you take right now germany and spain to win the world cup, its like covering 24 numbers in roulette about -200
    because each team pays about +200, so already backing one of those two teams to lift the world cup paying -200
    so if you wait that holland passes to final , you can have better odds, wating the winner of germany, spain game.
    in case uruguay passes , better take now spain or germany to win the cup pratically at -200...

     
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    Posted: Jul. 4, 2010 - 5:15 AM ET #11

    Holland will win.

    Germany will win.

    Germany will win it all....IMO...... (( 4-0 Against Argentina is enough prove for me!!! forget about history....Germany is the crown for 2010!))))
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    Holland will win.

    Germany will win.

    Germany will win it all....IMO...... (( 4-0 Against Argentina is enough prove for me!!! forget about history....Germany is the crown for 2010!))))
     
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    i totally neglect uruguay in my roulette formula, there is still 4 teams who can win the cup, but anyway for mack , its spain or germany...
    he was thinking -225 for one of them in final... we can already get -200
    if uruguay -400 for spain and germany
    if holland -140 for spain  -125 germany
    what do you think mack?
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    i totally neglect uruguay in my roulette formula, there is still 4 teams who can win the cup, but anyway for mack , its spain or germany...
    he was thinking -225 for one of them in final... we can already get -200
    if uruguay -400 for spain and germany
    if holland -140 for spain  -125 germany
    what do you think mack?
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by xxx777:

    Holland will win.

    Germany will win.

    Germany will win it all....IMO...... (( 4-0 Against Argentina is enough prove for me!!! forget about history....Germany is the crown for 2010!))))
    its good if germany win it all, but 4-0 win for me doesnt make me bet germany more,in sports betting, those kind of indication means nothing,,, i have to agree germany is playing well but spain is not argentina with no system with only offense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xxx777:

    Holland will win.

    Germany will win.

    Germany will win it all....IMO...... (( 4-0 Against Argentina is enough prove for me!!! forget about history....Germany is the crown for 2010!))))
    its good if germany win it all, but 4-0 win for me doesnt make me bet germany more,in sports betting, those kind of indication means nothing,,, i have to agree germany is playing well but spain is not argentina with no system with only offense.

     
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    Posted: Jul. 4, 2010 - 6:45 AM ET #14

    Quote Originally Posted by willywagtail:

    Mack, do you remember me? I lost 1.8k and you advised me not to go all in on England the other day. Thanks for that! When can I start tailing you? But are you going tout? I see a lot of successful cappers who became tout after that. I do not have the cash to afford your services you know.

    Sh!t dude, I really wished you tailed my Nadal pick in the tennis forum. I mean that was the pick that decided my whole year (half my roll was on it). I was quite vocal on the tennis forum sayiong Nadal -160 v Murray was bettors gold. The line was Miles up. I love overhyped British sportsmen.

    The above picks are ok but Nadal was the one to get your money back and more..

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    Quote Originally Posted by willywagtail:

    Mack, do you remember me? I lost 1.8k and you advised me not to go all in on England the other day. Thanks for that! When can I start tailing you? But are you going tout? I see a lot of successful cappers who became tout after that. I do not have the cash to afford your services you know.

    Sh!t dude, I really wished you tailed my Nadal pick in the tennis forum. I mean that was the pick that decided my whole year (half my roll was on it). I was quite vocal on the tennis forum sayiong Nadal -160 v Murray was bettors gold. The line was Miles up. I love overhyped British sportsmen.

    The above picks are ok but Nadal was the one to get your money back and more..

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSource2Win:

    I believe Netherlands v.s. Whoever in the final will be a Whoever favored by -140 tops.  You are underestimating the Dutch, spead-wise... a lot.

    -300 or -400????  You are talking like they'd be playing Nigeria in the final.



    My thoughts exactly.


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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSource2Win:

    I believe Netherlands v.s. Whoever in the final will be a Whoever favored by -140 tops.  You are underestimating the Dutch, spead-wise... a lot.

    -300 or -400????  You are talking like they'd be playing Nigeria in the final.



    My thoughts exactly.


     
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSource2Win:

    I believe Netherlands v.s. Whoever in the final will be a Whoever favored by -140 tops.  You are underestimating the Dutch, spead-wise... a lot.

    -300 or -400????  You are talking like they'd be playing Nigeria in the final.

    If Holland wins, the winner of the second match will be -300 TO LIFT THE TROPHY. No value there. If it's not the books have made a mistake and you pound it

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSource2Win:

    I believe Netherlands v.s. Whoever in the final will be a Whoever favored by -140 tops.  You are underestimating the Dutch, spead-wise... a lot.

    -300 or -400????  You are talking like they'd be playing Nigeria in the final.

    If Holland wins, the winner of the second match will be -300 TO LIFT THE TROPHY. No value there. If it's not the books have made a mistake and you pound it

     
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    Posted: Jul. 4, 2010 - 4:29 PM ET #17

    Holland will not be +250 to lift the trophy no matter who they play in the finals...
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    Holland will not be +250 to lift the trophy no matter who they play in the finals...
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by arkadymo:

    Holland will not be +250 to lift the trophy no matter who they play in the finals...

    Of course they won't. U do know how odds are done??

    The line should be -300, plus 200. You get better then that on Germany/Spain U POUND IT!

    Holland is NOT winning this world cup..

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by arkadymo:

    Holland will not be +250 to lift the trophy no matter who they play in the finals...

    Of course they won't. U do know how odds are done??

    The line should be -300, plus 200. You get better then that on Germany/Spain U POUND IT!

    Holland is NOT winning this world cup..

     

     
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    Uruguay will be missing more than just Suarez. Fucile is also out suspended. And their 2 top central defenders are injured. Godin has been carrying a thigh problem and has been replaced at times during the tournament by Victorino, who has played well. But the real issue is Lugano who is the team's captain and had to leave the Ghana game with a knee ligament problem. Even if he plays, I doubt he'll be playing 100%, those injuries are nasty and the schedule makes it difficult to recover in such a short time.
    I think Uruguay is in big trouble as they will be facing a way better team than anything they have faced so far, coupled with suspensions and injuries doesn't bode well for them. They've had a very lucky draw and I think this is where their luck runs out.

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    Uruguay will be missing more than just Suarez. Fucile is also out suspended. And their 2 top central defenders are injured. Godin has been carrying a thigh problem and has been replaced at times during the tournament by Victorino, who has played well. But the real issue is Lugano who is the team's captain and had to leave the Ghana game with a knee ligament problem. Even if he plays, I doubt he'll be playing 100%, those injuries are nasty and the schedule makes it difficult to recover in such a short time.
    I think Uruguay is in big trouble as they will be facing a way better team than anything they have faced so far, coupled with suspensions and injuries doesn't bode well for them. They've had a very lucky draw and I think this is where their luck runs out.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mooserider:

    Uruguay will be missing more than just Suarez. Fucile is also out suspended. And their 2 top central defenders are injured. Godin has been carrying a thigh problem and has been replaced at times during the tournament by Victorino, who has played well. But the real issue is Lugano who is the team's captain and had to leave the Ghana game with a knee ligament problem. Even if he plays, I doubt he'll be playing 100%, those injuries are nasty and the schedule makes it difficult to recover in such a short time.
    I think Uruguay is in big trouble as they will be facing a way better team than anything they have faced so far, coupled with suspensions and injuries doesn't bode well for them. They've had a very lucky draw and I think this is where their luck runs out.

    Agreed. Karma is a bitch and I think Uruguay gets it in spades Tuesday night..They will go back to form, dirty and defensive trying to fluke a victory. I hope and Pray Holland won for alot of reasons and not only that break their ££$$^^&& hearts in a heartbreaker..The site of Suarez celebrating like that for blantant cheating made me sick. Sadly cheaters and liars prosper in this world..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mooserider:

    Uruguay will be missing more than just Suarez. Fucile is also out suspended. And their 2 top central defenders are injured. Godin has been carrying a thigh problem and has been replaced at times during the tournament by Victorino, who has played well. But the real issue is Lugano who is the team's captain and had to leave the Ghana game with a knee ligament problem. Even if he plays, I doubt he'll be playing 100%, those injuries are nasty and the schedule makes it difficult to recover in such a short time.
    I think Uruguay is in big trouble as they will be facing a way better team than anything they have faced so far, coupled with suspensions and injuries doesn't bode well for them. They've had a very lucky draw and I think this is where their luck runs out.

    Agreed. Karma is a bitch and I think Uruguay gets it in spades Tuesday night..They will go back to form, dirty and defensive trying to fluke a victory. I hope and Pray Holland won for alot of reasons and not only that break their ££$$^^&& hearts in a heartbreaker..The site of Suarez celebrating like that for blantant cheating made me sick. Sadly cheaters and liars prosper in this world..

     
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    Posted: Jul. 5, 2010 - 8:25 AM ET #21

    Quote Originally Posted by Mack05:

    Of course they won't. U do know how odds are done??

    The line should be -300, plus 200. You get better then that on Germany/Spain U POUND IT!

    Holland is NOT winning this world cup..

     






    Sorry Mack, you're way off. 

    The line will be something like: Germany/Spain -140-160
                                                 Netherlands +120-140

    There is NO WAY in hell either Spain or Germany will be -300. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mack05:

    Of course they won't. U do know how odds are done??

    The line should be -300, plus 200. You get better then that on Germany/Spain U POUND IT!

    Holland is NOT winning this world cup..

     






    Sorry Mack, you're way off. 

    The line will be something like: Germany/Spain -140-160
                                                 Netherlands +120-140

    There is NO WAY in hell either Spain or Germany will be -300. 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSource2Win:






    Sorry Mack, you're way off. 

    The line will be something like: Germany/Spain -140-160
                                                 Netherlands +120-140

    There is NO WAY in hell either Spain or Germany will be -300. 

    If you are right I will be murdering Spain/Germany. Assuming my suspension is lifted on my betting account of course . Remeber source the line I am referring to is the Spain/Germany winner to lift the trophy, not win in 90 minutes.

    I think the Germany/Spain winner will be -300 to lift the trophy..If not then they should be..

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSource2Win:






    Sorry Mack, you're way off. 

    The line will be something like: Germany/Spain -140-160
                                                 Netherlands +120-140

    There is NO WAY in hell either Spain or Germany will be -300. 

    If you are right I will be murdering Spain/Germany. Assuming my suspension is lifted on my betting account of course . Remeber source the line I am referring to is the Spain/Germany winner to lift the trophy, not win in 90 minutes.

    I think the Germany/Spain winner will be -300 to lift the trophy..If not then they should be..

     
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    I think Spain to lift trophy vs netherlands would be around -180 & about -160 for Germany vs Holland. Good Luck with what ever your bet
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    I think Spain to lift trophy vs netherlands would be around -180 & about -160 for Germany vs Holland. Good Luck with what ever your bet
     
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    Adding:

    1) Card index bet > 60 points.. @+150

    Yellow Card=10 Points
    Red Card=25 points. 90 Minutes Only..

    I think Uruguay reverts back to type here. I think without Suarez they will crowd the midfield and try put the Dutch off their Rythm. Uruguay have been known as a tough physical team(s) in the past and I think they revert back to that tonight. If Holland doesn't score early I think the under has a great chance of hitting.

    2) Spain to win the world cup @+190. I have been back and forth with this. One of the best cappers I have met has put 75k on Germany and I see many good cappers on covers have gone Germany too. Add to the fact I have lost nearly 30k backing against Germany the past 2 games, then I truly must be an idiot to do it a 3rd time.

    Game Breakdown: These nations have met 20 times, Germany have won eight times, Spain six and there have been six draws.
    Spain will be playing in their first ever World Cup semi final.
    The last encounter between these two nations was in the Euro 2008 final that saw Spain win 1-0 thanks to a Fernando Torres strike.
    Germany are unbeaten against Spain at the World Cup, winning twice and drawing once.
    Germany have scored the most goals at the 2010 World Cup (13).
    Germany have scored four goals in three games at the 2010 World Cup, the only nation to have bettered this in a single World Cup is Hungary, netting at least four goals in four different matches in 1954.
    Thomas Müller has now scored four goals from four shots on target in this tournament.Good thing he is not playing!
    All 14 of Miroslav Klose’s World Cup goals have come in open play and from inside the box, and half of them have been headers.
    Klose needs just one more goal to equal Ronaldo’s record of 15 World Cup goals and is currently level with Gerd Müller (14).
    David Villa has netted five goals at this summer’s finals, equalling the all time Spanish record in a single World Cup (Basora in 1950 and Butragueno in 1986).
    David Villa is Spain’s top scorer in World Cup history with eight goals.
    David Villa is just one goal away (43) from equalling Raul as Spain’s all time top scorer (44).
    There has never been a 0-0 draw in a World Cup semi final.
    Xavi has completed more passes than any other World Cup 2010 player (404).

    HHmmmmm The good cappers say Germany, the stats point to Germany so why am I fading all of this? I am simply playing on the value here. Spain were only +450 pre tournament and now with two games to go they are +190 (with Brazil and Argentina out). I have had a quite simply a monsterous week between MMA and especially Tennis, so I can afford to take a gamble here and I am going against myself previously when I said "but no way in hell I would back it". I truly believe the winners of this game will win it out. I am convinced the value will not be good in the final and that I will be betting big amounts on bad value. A big NONO for me.

    Ok so why am I picking Spain. Well Spain has been one of the top teams in the event when it comes to passing precision and ball possession. If they get a lead, they can be very hard to break down defensively. This makes the first goal in this game a HUGELY important one. Germany have looked so impressive the past 2 games. They have gotten off to fast starts in both games. They then defend very well and hit on the counter attack with devastating effect. If they score first it will probably mean my bet is screwed. But if Spain scores first, It will be interesting to see how Germany cope. The one time in this tournament they went a goal down they didn't respond too brilliantly. They haven't been asked a question in the the knockout stages in this world cup. It's almost looked too easy. I am pretty sure the Spainish will provide this team with by far it's biggest test. How Germany react will determine the outcome of this game. Muller is a massive loss here..I think it's only when the game is over will we see how much.

    Back to the game. The Spaniards will be more cautious in this match and try everything to prevent Germany from keeping much possession knowing well that they cannot match the pace and agility of their rivals with the ball. On the other hand, the witty Low (who I badly underestimated against Englans) may have a plan or two of his own to surprise their highly rated opponents. It will be very interesting to see how both teams approach the game. We’ve definitely seen talent alone is no match against teamwork so the balance has tilted Germany’s way ahead of the semi-final encounter and I understand this. Spain will have to come up with something else than their current style of playing if they are to avoid defeat and make it to their maiden World Cup final appearance. So far they have just done enough in the knock out stages. Teams that keeping winning 1-0 as history has shown us are very hard to topple. I have a big hunch they will have just a little too much for Germany. I am taking a gamble on that hunch. Won close to 80k on Nadal so hopefully his Spainish buddies can bag me an extra 30k now that I can bet again!

    FULL PLAYS!

    1) Playing the under 2.5 goals here Holland and Uru @ -180.

    2100 to win 1200

    2) Spain and Germany to Draw @ +220

    500 to win 1125

    3) Uruguay + Holland Card Index > 60 points @ +150

    400 to win 600

    4) Spain to win the world cup @ +190

    16k to win 30.4k

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    Adding:

    1) Card index bet > 60 points.. @+150

    Yellow Card=10 Points
    Red Card=25 points. 90 Minutes Only..

    I think Uruguay reverts back to type here. I think without Suarez they will crowd the midfield and try put the Dutch off their Rythm. Uruguay have been known as a tough physical team(s) in the past and I think they revert back to that tonight. If Holland doesn't score early I think the under has a great chance of hitting.

    2) Spain to win the world cup @+190. I have been back and forth with this. One of the best cappers I have met has put 75k on Germany and I see many good cappers on covers have gone Germany too. Add to the fact I have lost nearly 30k backing against Germany the past 2 games, then I truly must be an idiot to do it a 3rd time.

    Game Breakdown: These nations have met 20 times, Germany have won eight times, Spain six and there have been six draws.
    Spain will be playing in their first ever World Cup semi final.
    The last encounter between these two nations was in the Euro 2008 final that saw Spain win 1-0 thanks to a Fernando Torres strike.
    Germany are unbeaten against Spain at the World Cup, winning twice and drawing once.
    Germany have scored the most goals at the 2010 World Cup (13).
    Germany have scored four goals in three games at the 2010 World Cup, the only nation to have bettered this in a single World Cup is Hungary, netting at least four goals in four different matches in 1954.
    Thomas Müller has now scored four goals from four shots on target in this tournament.Good thing he is not playing!
    All 14 of Miroslav Klose’s World Cup goals have come in open play and from inside the box, and half of them have been headers.
    Klose needs just one more goal to equal Ronaldo’s record of 15 World Cup goals and is currently level with Gerd Müller (14).
    David Villa has netted five goals at this summer’s finals, equalling the all time Spanish record in a single World Cup (Basora in 1950 and Butragueno in 1986).
    David Villa is Spain’s top scorer in World Cup history with eight goals.
    David Villa is just one goal away (43) from equalling Raul as Spain’s all time top scorer (44).
    There has never been a 0-0 draw in a World Cup semi final.
    Xavi has completed more passes than any other World Cup 2010 player (404).

    HHmmmmm The good cappers say Germany, the stats point to Germany so why am I fading all of this? I am simply playing on the value here. Spain were only +450 pre tournament and now with two games to go they are +190 (with Brazil and Argentina out). I have had a quite simply a monsterous week between MMA and especially Tennis, so I can afford to take a gamble here and I am going against myself previously when I said "but no way in hell I would back it". I truly believe the winners of this game will win it out. I am convinced the value will not be good in the final and that I will be betting big amounts on bad value. A big NONO for me.

    Ok so why am I picking Spain. Well Spain has been one of the top teams in the event when it comes to passing precision and ball possession. If they get a lead, they can be very hard to break down defensively. This makes the first goal in this game a HUGELY important one. Germany have looked so impressive the past 2 games. They have gotten off to fast starts in both games. They then defend very well and hit on the counter attack with devastating effect. If they score first it will probably mean my bet is screwed. But if Spain scores first, It will be interesting to see how Germany cope. The one time in this tournament they went a goal down they didn't respond too brilliantly. They haven't been asked a question in the the knockout stages in this world cup. It's almost looked too easy. I am pretty sure the Spainish will provide this team with by far it's biggest test. How Germany react will determine the outcome of this game. Muller is a massive loss here..I think it's only when the game is over will we see how much.

    Back to the game. The Spaniards will be more cautious in this match and try everything to prevent Germany from keeping much possession knowing well that they cannot match the pace and agility of their rivals with the ball. On the other hand, the witty Low (who I badly underestimated against Englans) may have a plan or two of his own to surprise their highly rated opponents. It will be very interesting to see how both teams approach the game. We’ve definitely seen talent alone is no match against teamwork so the balance has tilted Germany’s way ahead of the semi-final encounter and I understand this. Spain will have to come up with something else than their current style of playing if they are to avoid defeat and make it to their maiden World Cup final appearance. So far they have just done enough in the knock out stages. Teams that keeping winning 1-0 as history has shown us are very hard to topple. I have a big hunch they will have just a little too much for Germany. I am taking a gamble on that hunch. Won close to 80k on Nadal so hopefully his Spainish buddies can bag me an extra 30k now that I can bet again!

    FULL PLAYS!

    1) Playing the under 2.5 goals here Holland and Uru @ -180.

    2100 to win 1200

    2) Spain and Germany to Draw @ +220

    500 to win 1125

    3) Uruguay + Holland Card Index > 60 points @ +150

    400 to win 600

    4) Spain to win the world cup @ +190

    16k to win 30.4k

     
     
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    sorry guys I means over then 60 points on the card index! Doh
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    sorry guys I means over then 60 points on the card index! Doh
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