I read so many of these posts here. This is very simple:
No tout EVER wins money for the bettor. Why? Well there are 2 types of touts and we need to look at both....
The first is a scamdicapper. These guys know nothing about sports, in fact "the guy" usually doesn't even exist. It is a made up name to represent a made up resume of BS. The model looks like this: Get lists of previously paying customers (marks), call them and offer them 2 free games, if both win they pay for a subscription. Then, give these marks opposite sides of the same game. For every 4 marks you engage, you are going to have 1 that wins the first 2 games and signs up - the other 3 marks that lose one of the first two games go back in the pool and get called by someone else to enter the hamster wheel again. They have no intention of winning, only getting cash from marks.
The second are legit (or semi legit) handicappers. The problem - much like in the investment world of stocks - is that nobody beats the management fees. Or in this case, the subscription fees. It is hard enough to beat the juice, but when you have to pay for the picks on top of that, nobody wins.
Dont believe me? Check out this article, and specifically the chart about half way down called "TOTALS AFTER FEES".
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I read so many of these posts here. This is very simple:
No tout EVER wins money for the bettor. Why? Well there are 2 types of touts and we need to look at both....
The first is a scamdicapper. These guys know nothing about sports, in fact "the guy" usually doesn't even exist. It is a made up name to represent a made up resume of BS. The model looks like this: Get lists of previously paying customers (marks), call them and offer them 2 free games, if both win they pay for a subscription. Then, give these marks opposite sides of the same game. For every 4 marks you engage, you are going to have 1 that wins the first 2 games and signs up - the other 3 marks that lose one of the first two games go back in the pool and get called by someone else to enter the hamster wheel again. They have no intention of winning, only getting cash from marks.
The second are legit (or semi legit) handicappers. The problem - much like in the investment world of stocks - is that nobody beats the management fees. Or in this case, the subscription fees. It is hard enough to beat the juice, but when you have to pay for the picks on top of that, nobody wins.
Dont believe me? Check out this article, and specifically the chart about half way down called "TOTALS AFTER FEES".
Yesterday the only guy that I buy picks from had Over 9.5 in the Twins game, it was his only pick. Game ended 7-5....
That whole thing you just wrote went in one ear and out the other. So to speak, and those "subscription fees" that you're talking about....lets be realistic here, most degenerates like myself, if they are betting at least $100 on a game then they can afford to spend $300 a month for picks...and the juice that you speak of, is between -110 and -130 so yeah...
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No sorry but I don't believe you.
Yesterday the only guy that I buy picks from had Over 9.5 in the Twins game, it was his only pick. Game ended 7-5....
That whole thing you just wrote went in one ear and out the other. So to speak, and those "subscription fees" that you're talking about....lets be realistic here, most degenerates like myself, if they are betting at least $100 on a game then they can afford to spend $300 a month for picks...and the juice that you speak of, is between -110 and -130 so yeah...
"The first is a scamdicapper. These guys know nothing about sports, in fact "the guy" usually doesn't even exist. It is a made up name to represent a made up resume of BS. The model looks like this: Get lists of previously paying customers (marks), call them and offer them 2 free games, if both win they pay for a subscription. Then, give these marks opposite sides of the same game. For every 4 marks you engage, you are going to have 1 that wins the first 2 games and signs up - the other 3 marks that lose one of the first two games go back in the pool and get called by someone else to enter the hamster wheel again. They have no intention of winning, only getting cash from marks."
This is the stupidest thing I have ever heard. You obviously have never paid for picks before and have never even done you're homework to see if anyone of them are actually legit. You're just quoting other people things you hear from the grapevine.
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"The first is a scamdicapper. These guys know nothing about sports, in fact "the guy" usually doesn't even exist. It is a made up name to represent a made up resume of BS. The model looks like this: Get lists of previously paying customers (marks), call them and offer them 2 free games, if both win they pay for a subscription. Then, give these marks opposite sides of the same game. For every 4 marks you engage, you are going to have 1 that wins the first 2 games and signs up - the other 3 marks that lose one of the first two games go back in the pool and get called by someone else to enter the hamster wheel again. They have no intention of winning, only getting cash from marks."
This is the stupidest thing I have ever heard. You obviously have never paid for picks before and have never even done you're homework to see if anyone of them are actually legit. You're just quoting other people things you hear from the grapevine.
and the juice that you speak of, is between -110 and -130 so yeah...
Baseballislife, you haven't been betting for very long have you? I honestly can't believe someone would type what you did above. Your not making a point but rather reinforcing what van said. Remember what Vanzack told you cuz it's 100% the truth. Good luck to ya tho
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and the juice that you speak of, is between -110 and -130 so yeah...
Baseballislife, you haven't been betting for very long have you? I honestly can't believe someone would type what you did above. Your not making a point but rather reinforcing what van said. Remember what Vanzack told you cuz it's 100% the truth. Good luck to ya tho
last week the guy that I use went 7-1 on the day.....the other days? 2-3, 3-3, 3-0, 2-1, 2-2 and then 2-4....do the math. 21-14 looks to me like a WINNING week.
I'm not sure why I'm even talking to you people...
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last week the guy that I use went 7-1 on the day.....the other days? 2-3, 3-3, 3-0, 2-1, 2-2 and then 2-4....do the math. 21-14 looks to me like a WINNING week.
I'm not sure why I'm even talking to you people...
LOL - who do you think you're fooling? You are clearly a tout...probably a scamdicapper. Stop trying to convince us to buy picks... only a fool would pay for someone to throw a dart.
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LOL - who do you think you're fooling? You are clearly a tout...probably a scamdicapper. Stop trying to convince us to buy picks... only a fool would pay for someone to throw a dart.
Okay I read through that chart....I don't use any of those guys...they suck. So regardless this is retarded. I have my way and you have yours, it still doesn't explain how I'm making $$ using there picks. But hey if you guys want to get all butt hurt then that's your problem not mine.
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Okay I read through that chart....I don't use any of those guys...they suck. So regardless this is retarded. I have my way and you have yours, it still doesn't explain how I'm making $$ using there picks. But hey if you guys want to get all butt hurt then that's your problem not mine.
I am no tout sir, I just a degenerate like the rest of you, but I actually buy picks. because once in a while you might actually find a guy who knows what he's talking about. Just some food for thought.
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I am no tout sir, I just a degenerate like the rest of you, but I actually buy picks. because once in a while you might actually find a guy who knows what he's talking about. Just some food for thought.
We're not going to ask you who you use. You're approach is so obvious, it's laughable.
You want us to get excited and ask, Baseballislife, please tell us your source!! Then you can give us your Tout name and contact info? Lol, we weren't born yesterday
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We're not going to ask you who you use. You're approach is so obvious, it's laughable.
You want us to get excited and ask, Baseballislife, please tell us your source!! Then you can give us your Tout name and contact info? Lol, we weren't born yesterday
I am no tout sir, I just a degenerate like the rest of you, but I actually buy picks. because once in a while you might actually find a guy who knows what he's talking about. Just some food for thought.
Jed Clampett to Jethro Bodine " someday i'm gonna have to have a long talk with that boy ".
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Quote Originally Posted by BaseballisLife1:
I am no tout sir, I just a degenerate like the rest of you, but I actually buy picks. because once in a while you might actually find a guy who knows what he's talking about. Just some food for thought.
Jed Clampett to Jethro Bodine " someday i'm gonna have to have a long talk with that boy ".
When will these jokers realize that creating a profile and instantly talking about "this great service you use" is like having the screen name "IAMATOUT". If they had any longevity they would they would slow play it. Create a profile, ingrain themselves in the community, and then drop hints about the fantastic service they have found.
"I'm just a degenerate like you guys." So fake. So forced. Reminds me of one time when two buddies and I, all underage but barely, are in this bar drinking and shooting pool. And this obviously "happy", slightly older, tried to wedge himself into our group. And he's literally saying stuff like, "We're just a few macho guys hangin' out, amirite, fellas?!" Trying to hang out and buy us drinks. And we're looking at him like, "Who the fck are you and where did you come from?"
I think I was the only one of the three of us that put two and two together but I always wondered about his endgame. Did he think we were young and impressionable and that he could get us drunk and have his way with us? Was he going to slip us mickies? Or did he simply just want to hang out. As a 20 year old I just assumed it was something nefarious but as I got older, wiser, I realized that I was just perpetuating a stereotype.
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When will these jokers realize that creating a profile and instantly talking about "this great service you use" is like having the screen name "IAMATOUT". If they had any longevity they would they would slow play it. Create a profile, ingrain themselves in the community, and then drop hints about the fantastic service they have found.
"I'm just a degenerate like you guys." So fake. So forced. Reminds me of one time when two buddies and I, all underage but barely, are in this bar drinking and shooting pool. And this obviously "happy", slightly older, tried to wedge himself into our group. And he's literally saying stuff like, "We're just a few macho guys hangin' out, amirite, fellas?!" Trying to hang out and buy us drinks. And we're looking at him like, "Who the fck are you and where did you come from?"
I think I was the only one of the three of us that put two and two together but I always wondered about his endgame. Did he think we were young and impressionable and that he could get us drunk and have his way with us? Was he going to slip us mickies? Or did he simply just want to hang out. As a 20 year old I just assumed it was something nefarious but as I got older, wiser, I realized that I was just perpetuating a stereotype.
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