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    Posted: Oct. 6, 2011 - 10:45 AM ET #1

    2011 MLB Record:
    201 - 155 @ 56% for +27.81 Units



    2011 MLB Playoffs:
    6 - 2 @ 75% for +4.0 Units

    Thur 10/06

    #1: Detroit Tigers (1st 5 innings) +150

    Game 1.5 (get it?) rematch here between Fister and Nova. The key here is to determine who is a better pitcher. Take a look at what Fister has done over his last 8 games of the regular season: 56 innings of work, 25 hits, 4 ER’s, and 52 K’s to 4 BB’s. Truly incredible. Sure he didn’t face the ‘best’ offenses in the league but those numbers are still spectacular. His xFIP in the month of September was a slick 2.19 with 9.0 K/9 and 0.79 BB/9 for an 11.33 K/BB ratio. On the other hand, Nova had his worst month in September since May, with a 4.55 xFIP and a measly 1.42 K/BB ratio.

    Let’s also compare each pitcher in terms of how they did against the top-5 offenses in the American League this year (Red Sox, Rangers, Yankees, Tigers, Royals):

    Fister:

    KC: 7.0 inn / 8 hits / 5 ER
    DET: 6.1 inn / 5 hits / 2 ER
    BOS: 5.2 inn / 5 hits / 0 ER
    DET: 8.0 inn / 7 hits / 4 ER
    TEX: 7.2 inn / 6 hits / 4 ER
    NYY: 7.0 inn / 7 hits / 3 ER
    TEX: 7.0 inn / 8 hits / 2 ER
    KC: 7.2 inn / 4 hits / 1 ER

    Total: 56.1 inn / 50 hits / 21 ER for a 3.36 ERA. Not too bad especially considering the offensive output of the lineups he faced.

    Nova:

    BOS: 4.1 inn / 7 hits / 4 ER
    TEX: 4.1 inn / 4 hits / 5 ER
    TEX: 7.1 inn / 2 hits / 0 ER
    KC: 3.0 inn / 10 hits / 4 ER
    TEX: 5.2 inn / 7 hits / 4 ER
    KC: 5.1 inn / 9 hits / 7 ER
    BOS: 6.1 inn / 8 hits / 4 ER

    Total: 36.1 inn / 47 hits / 28 ER for a 6.98 ERA. Hmm…

    The interesting thing here is that Nova hasn’t faced the Tigers during the regular season. Actually, he has never started against them (had 2 innings of relief work against them last year) until game 1.5 of this playoff series. Nova went 6.1 innings in that start, allowed 4 hits and 2 ER’s. He had 5 strike-outs to 4 walks. He left the game in the 9th with bases loaded and 1 one. Ayala gave up a ground-out and a single to account for the 2 runs that were applied to Nova. The important factor to take away here is that the ‘unfamiliarity’ angle is gone. Even in his first start against the Tigers, Nova issued 4 walks in 6 innings of work (pretty inefficient). How is he going to fare against them today, when they get to see him for the second time in a week? Well, maybe his 6.98 ERA against the best hitting offenses in AL is a good indicator of his ‘expected’ future performance.

    Speaking of that first game, Fister’s box-score shows that he went 4.2 innings, allowed 7 hits and 6 ER’s with 6 K’s to 2 BB’s. If you watched the game you would have noticed that he struggled in the first inning he pitched, but got out of it without giving up any runs. He then went on to pitch 3 very solid innings allowing 1 ER prior to running into some trouble in the 6th where with 2 outs he gave up 2 consecutive singles and a walk. Fister exited the game with bases loaded and 2 outs, when Alburquerque promptly gave up a grand slam crediting 3 more ER’s to Fister. Overall, was it a great outing? No. Was it as bad as the box-score showed? Not really. I’m sure it wasn’t easy for either Fister or Nova to come into a game already in progress. Today both pitchers will start the game from the first inning and I expect Fister to be the one to outperform his opponent.

    I also want to point out Fister’s L/R splits: 3.75 xFIP against lefties with a 3.56 K/BB and 3.43 xFIP against righties with a 4.75 K/BB. Both are very solid and above average. Nova’s L/R splits are: 4.37 xFIP with 1.45 K/BB against lefties and 3.95 xFIP with a 2.08 against righties. Both are below average and his performance against lefties is very poor. I expect Leyland to have a couple more lefties in this Tigers lineup tonight. I also want to point out that Nova’s home xFIP of 4.48 is much worse than his road xFIP of 3.82. His home HR/9 rate is 1.05 compared to 0.34 on the road. All these factors are very critical, and favor the Tigers here.

    A couple days ago I’ve explained my concern with Tigers’ BP, especially their closer Valverde. This is the reason I’m playing this one for the first 5 innings only, as Yankees’ BP is much more dominant.

    Finally I’ve compared all the starting pitchers in AL this year that have enough ‘innings’ to qualify, top 40 pitchers in terms of innings and starts. Fister has the 12th best xFIP at 3.62 and 3.03 FIP (5th) compared to Nova’s 33rd ranked 4.15 xFIP and 4.01 FIP (24th). Fister’s xFIP is better than Lester’s, Weaver’s, Masterson’s, Romero’s, and Scherzer’s. Nova’s is better than Carmona’s, Francis’, Guthrie’s, Brad Penny’s, and Vargas’. Now tell me, which pitcher you’d like to back in a pivotal game 5? I expect majority of the public to back the Yankees as they’ll only be comparing the box-scores from game 1.5 starts between Fister and Nova, while using superficial reasons as ‘Yankees have momentum’ and ‘Yankees want it more’, etc. We’ll know better though!
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    2011 MLB Record:
    201 - 155 @ 56% for +27.81 Units



    2011 MLB Playoffs:
    6 - 2 @ 75% for +4.0 Units

    Thur 10/06

    #1: Detroit Tigers (1st 5 innings) +150

    Game 1.5 (get it?) rematch here between Fister and Nova. The key here is to determine who is a better pitcher. Take a look at what Fister has done over his last 8 games of the regular season: 56 innings of work, 25 hits, 4 ER’s, and 52 K’s to 4 BB’s. Truly incredible. Sure he didn’t face the ‘best’ offenses in the league but those numbers are still spectacular. His xFIP in the month of September was a slick 2.19 with 9.0 K/9 and 0.79 BB/9 for an 11.33 K/BB ratio. On the other hand, Nova had his worst month in September since May, with a 4.55 xFIP and a measly 1.42 K/BB ratio.

    Let’s also compare each pitcher in terms of how they did against the top-5 offenses in the American League this year (Red Sox, Rangers, Yankees, Tigers, Royals):

    Fister:

    KC: 7.0 inn / 8 hits / 5 ER
    DET: 6.1 inn / 5 hits / 2 ER
    BOS: 5.2 inn / 5 hits / 0 ER
    DET: 8.0 inn / 7 hits / 4 ER
    TEX: 7.2 inn / 6 hits / 4 ER
    NYY: 7.0 inn / 7 hits / 3 ER
    TEX: 7.0 inn / 8 hits / 2 ER
    KC: 7.2 inn / 4 hits / 1 ER

    Total: 56.1 inn / 50 hits / 21 ER for a 3.36 ERA. Not too bad especially considering the offensive output of the lineups he faced.

    Nova:

    BOS: 4.1 inn / 7 hits / 4 ER
    TEX: 4.1 inn / 4 hits / 5 ER
    TEX: 7.1 inn / 2 hits / 0 ER
    KC: 3.0 inn / 10 hits / 4 ER
    TEX: 5.2 inn / 7 hits / 4 ER
    KC: 5.1 inn / 9 hits / 7 ER
    BOS: 6.1 inn / 8 hits / 4 ER

    Total: 36.1 inn / 47 hits / 28 ER for a 6.98 ERA. Hmm…

    The interesting thing here is that Nova hasn’t faced the Tigers during the regular season. Actually, he has never started against them (had 2 innings of relief work against them last year) until game 1.5 of this playoff series. Nova went 6.1 innings in that start, allowed 4 hits and 2 ER’s. He had 5 strike-outs to 4 walks. He left the game in the 9th with bases loaded and 1 one. Ayala gave up a ground-out and a single to account for the 2 runs that were applied to Nova. The important factor to take away here is that the ‘unfamiliarity’ angle is gone. Even in his first start against the Tigers, Nova issued 4 walks in 6 innings of work (pretty inefficient). How is he going to fare against them today, when they get to see him for the second time in a week? Well, maybe his 6.98 ERA against the best hitting offenses in AL is a good indicator of his ‘expected’ future performance.

    Speaking of that first game, Fister’s box-score shows that he went 4.2 innings, allowed 7 hits and 6 ER’s with 6 K’s to 2 BB’s. If you watched the game you would have noticed that he struggled in the first inning he pitched, but got out of it without giving up any runs. He then went on to pitch 3 very solid innings allowing 1 ER prior to running into some trouble in the 6th where with 2 outs he gave up 2 consecutive singles and a walk. Fister exited the game with bases loaded and 2 outs, when Alburquerque promptly gave up a grand slam crediting 3 more ER’s to Fister. Overall, was it a great outing? No. Was it as bad as the box-score showed? Not really. I’m sure it wasn’t easy for either Fister or Nova to come into a game already in progress. Today both pitchers will start the game from the first inning and I expect Fister to be the one to outperform his opponent.

    I also want to point out Fister’s L/R splits: 3.75 xFIP against lefties with a 3.56 K/BB and 3.43 xFIP against righties with a 4.75 K/BB. Both are very solid and above average. Nova’s L/R splits are: 4.37 xFIP with 1.45 K/BB against lefties and 3.95 xFIP with a 2.08 against righties. Both are below average and his performance against lefties is very poor. I expect Leyland to have a couple more lefties in this Tigers lineup tonight. I also want to point out that Nova’s home xFIP of 4.48 is much worse than his road xFIP of 3.82. His home HR/9 rate is 1.05 compared to 0.34 on the road. All these factors are very critical, and favor the Tigers here.

    A couple days ago I’ve explained my concern with Tigers’ BP, especially their closer Valverde. This is the reason I’m playing this one for the first 5 innings only, as Yankees’ BP is much more dominant.

    Finally I’ve compared all the starting pitchers in AL this year that have enough ‘innings’ to qualify, top 40 pitchers in terms of innings and starts. Fister has the 12th best xFIP at 3.62 and 3.03 FIP (5th) compared to Nova’s 33rd ranked 4.15 xFIP and 4.01 FIP (24th). Fister’s xFIP is better than Lester’s, Weaver’s, Masterson’s, Romero’s, and Scherzer’s. Nova’s is better than Carmona’s, Francis’, Guthrie’s, Brad Penny’s, and Vargas’. Now tell me, which pitcher you’d like to back in a pivotal game 5? I expect majority of the public to back the Yankees as they’ll only be comparing the box-scores from game 1.5 starts between Fister and Nova, while using superficial reasons as ‘Yankees have momentum’ and ‘Yankees want it more’, etc. We’ll know better though!
     
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    Updated records:

    '10 MLBP: 20 - 8 @ 71% for +$13,130
    '10 NFL: 58-44 @ 57% for +$9,600
    '10 NFLP: 8-2 @ 80% for +$5,800
    '10 CFB: 55-54 @ 51% for -$4,400
    '10 CFBP: 4-4 @ 50% for -$400
    '10 CBB: 39-18 @ 68% for +$19,200
    '10 CBBP: 16-6 @ 73% for +$9,400
    '10 NBA: 151-99 @ 60% for +$42,100
    '10 NBAP: 30-26 @ 54% for +$1,400
    '10 NHL: 18-9 @ 67% for +$6,175
    '10 NHLP: 16-7 @ 70% for +$5,575

    '11 MLB: 201 -155 @ 56% for +$27,810
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    TOTAL: 616-432 @ 59% for +$135,390

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    Updated records:

    '10 MLBP: 20 - 8 @ 71% for +$13,130
    '10 NFL: 58-44 @ 57% for +$9,600
    '10 NFLP: 8-2 @ 80% for +$5,800
    '10 CFB: 55-54 @ 51% for -$4,400
    '10 CFBP: 4-4 @ 50% for -$400
    '10 CBB: 39-18 @ 68% for +$19,200
    '10 CBBP: 16-6 @ 73% for +$9,400
    '10 NBA: 151-99 @ 60% for +$42,100
    '10 NBAP: 30-26 @ 54% for +$1,400
    '10 NHL: 18-9 @ 67% for +$6,175
    '10 NHLP: 16-7 @ 70% for +$5,575

    '11 MLB: 201 -155 @ 56% for +$27,810
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    TOTAL: 616-432 @ 59% for +$135,390

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    Posted: Oct. 6, 2011 - 10:51 AM ET #3

    Never seen play a first five inning bet before ... Tailing u as always win or lose GL to us thanks bodio
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    Never seen play a first five inning bet before ... Tailing u as always win or lose GL to us thanks bodio
     
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    So whats your thoughts on the total for the game with the talk about how great his ERA has been does that point Under 9. I feel this could be a duel and could get some runs late in the innings.

    Also no thoughts on the game itself for a bet for the whole game?

    Thanks for the info! Just never seen the 1st inning under ur belt in a big game like this.
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    So whats your thoughts on the total for the game with the talk about how great his ERA has been does that point Under 9. I feel this could be a duel and could get some runs late in the innings.

    Also no thoughts on the game itself for a bet for the whole game?

    Thanks for the info! Just never seen the 1st inning under ur belt in a big game like this.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 6, 2011 - 11:02 AM ET #5

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    Quote Originally Posted by LTE23:

    So whats your thoughts on the total for the game with the talk about how great his ERA has been does that point Under 9. I feel this could be a duel and could get some runs late in the innings.


    Also no thoughts on the game itself for a bet for the whole game?

    Thanks for the info! Just never seen the 1st inning under ur belt in a big game like this.

    It's NOT a 1st inning bet.
    It's a First-5 inning bet or 5-innings ONLY bet.

    I got the total for this game at 8.8 runs.
    My thoughts on the whole game?

    Well, I think that Tigers have a large advantage in starting pitching in this one and I expect them to have a lead after 5. 
    After that though, I wouldn't be surprised if the Bombers come back against this 'shaky' Detroit bullpen which just looks over-matched here.  Detroit's pen has been very solid the last month of the season but against this Yankee lineup they look very mediocre. Yankees down a run in the 9th, get a walk-off 2-run homer off Valverde to clinch the series!    
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    Quote Originally Posted by LTE23:

    So whats your thoughts on the total for the game with the talk about how great his ERA has been does that point Under 9. I feel this could be a duel and could get some runs late in the innings.


    Also no thoughts on the game itself for a bet for the whole game?

    Thanks for the info! Just never seen the 1st inning under ur belt in a big game like this.

    It's NOT a 1st inning bet.
    It's a First-5 inning bet or 5-innings ONLY bet.

    I got the total for this game at 8.8 runs.
    My thoughts on the whole game?

    Well, I think that Tigers have a large advantage in starting pitching in this one and I expect them to have a lead after 5. 
    After that though, I wouldn't be surprised if the Bombers come back against this 'shaky' Detroit bullpen which just looks over-matched here.  Detroit's pen has been very solid the last month of the season but against this Yankee lineup they look very mediocre. Yankees down a run in the 9th, get a walk-off 2-run homer off Valverde to clinch the series!    
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by bodio:



    #1: Detroit Tigers (1st 5 innings) +150



    Let me clarify:

    #1: Detroit Tigers (First 5 innings ONLY) +150

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    Quote Originally Posted by bodio:



    #1: Detroit Tigers (1st 5 innings) +150



    Let me clarify:

    #1: Detroit Tigers (First 5 innings ONLY) +150

     
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    Posted: Oct. 6, 2011 - 11:07 AM ET #8

    You were deadly clear the first time Bodio.

    GL tonight!

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    You were deadly clear the first time Bodio.

    GL tonight!

     
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    Posted: Oct. 6, 2011 - 11:10 AM ET #9

    Quote Originally Posted by DestinedWinner:

    You were deadly clear the first time Bodio.

    GL tonight!


    I noticed I included "1st" in there instead of "First".
    Could be confusing.

    Good luck
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    Quote Originally Posted by DestinedWinner:

    You were deadly clear the first time Bodio.

    GL tonight!


    I noticed I included "1st" in there instead of "First".
    Could be confusing.

    Good luck
     
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    Posted: Oct. 6, 2011 - 11:11 AM ET #10

    Quote Originally Posted by ILLEST_Bettor:

    Never seen play a first five inning bet before ... Tailing u as always win or lose GL to us thanks bodio

    Never seen a bullpen look so scared and unsure of themselves in the playoffs before 
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    Quote Originally Posted by ILLEST_Bettor:

    Never seen play a first five inning bet before ... Tailing u as always win or lose GL to us thanks bodio

    Never seen a bullpen look so scared and unsure of themselves in the playoffs before 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 6, 2011 - 11:11 AM ET #11

    Sorry about that I wrote that wrong. Thanks for Clarifying that with me

    Best of Luck Bud!

    You do have a thing for Velarde to Give up a Long one late as do I when I discuss a couple games ago about Det bullpen being very shaky
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    Sorry about that I wrote that wrong. Thanks for Clarifying that with me

    Best of Luck Bud!

    You do have a thing for Velarde to Give up a Long one late as do I when I discuss a couple games ago about Det bullpen being very shaky
     
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    Posted: Oct. 6, 2011 - 11:14 AM ET #12

    bol Bodio
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    bol Bodio
     
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    Posted: Oct. 6, 2011 - 11:15 AM ET #13

    gl bodio.....
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    gl bodio.....
     
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    Posted: Oct. 6, 2011 - 11:18 AM ET #14

    Very smart play Bodio.  Fister is a better pitcher as far as advanced numbers go.  Considering an action wager on the first 5 myself.  Tigers already below average bullpen will likely not bring out one of their better young guys Al Alburquerque and like you said in your last write-up on this game it's only a matter of time before Valverde blows one.

    Curious what your have for a total in this game?  I'm showing great value in the under as my projections have this game at 7.8.
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    Very smart play Bodio.  Fister is a better pitcher as far as advanced numbers go.  Considering an action wager on the first 5 myself.  Tigers already below average bullpen will likely not bring out one of their better young guys Al Alburquerque and like you said in your last write-up on this game it's only a matter of time before Valverde blows one.

    Curious what your have for a total in this game?  I'm showing great value in the under as my projections have this game at 7.8.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 6, 2011 - 11:19 AM ET #15

    Valverde 50 for 50...

    Looked shaky in bothhis appearances...

    2 days rest ..helps him...

    If that crazy fucker has the ball and the lead in the 9th tonight,don't get your hopes up...

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    Valverde 50 for 50...

    Looked shaky in bothhis appearances...

    2 days rest ..helps him...

    If that crazy fucker has the ball and the lead in the 9th tonight,don't get your hopes up...

     
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    Posted: Oct. 6, 2011 - 11:20 AM ET #16

    Great write-up, bodio.

    I had detroit +150 at the start of the series and I am now going to hedge out of it and bet first five instead.

    I believe the rain delay definately favored the NYY and eliminated some of the fatigue factor from their previous rays series.

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    Great write-up, bodio.

    I had detroit +150 at the start of the series and I am now going to hedge out of it and bet first five instead.

    I believe the rain delay definately favored the NYY and eliminated some of the fatigue factor from their previous rays series.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 6, 2011 - 11:21 AM ET #17

    top notch research n write-up as always 

    best of luck 
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    top notch research n write-up as always 

    best of luck 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 6, 2011 - 11:21 AM ET #18

    Good Luck.
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    Good Luck.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 6, 2011 - 11:22 AM ET #19

    I think the Yankees could get upset here.

    Phillies and Brewers appear to be safe.

    Like Tigers chances vs Nova on a second go around. I don't think the Yankees will get more than a run off of Fister tonight.

    Nice wager

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    I think the Yankees could get upset here.

    Phillies and Brewers appear to be safe.

    Like Tigers chances vs Nova on a second go around. I don't think the Yankees will get more than a run off of Fister tonight.

    Nice wager

     
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    Posted: Oct. 6, 2011 - 11:24 AM ET #20

    Bodio you got me going . I got Yanks full game hopefully we both cash .
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    Bodio you got me going . I got Yanks full game hopefully we both cash .
     
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    Posted: Oct. 6, 2011 - 11:25 AM ET #21

    Got the email Good luck today Bodio
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    Got the email Good luck today Bodio
     
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    Posted: Oct. 6, 2011 - 11:26 AM ET #22

    Holly crap my book got 1st 5 innning Detroits +125 only , fuck
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    Holly crap my book got 1st 5 innning Detroits +125 only , fuck
     
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    Posted: Oct. 6, 2011 - 11:29 AM ET #23

    goodluck bodio may the winners be yurs
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    Posted: Oct. 6, 2011 - 11:32 AM ET #24

    Quote Originally Posted by hutasadorn:

    Great post as always Butch.

    I like the play.

    Question.

    "I’m sure it wasn’t easy for either Fister or Nova to come into a game already in progress. "

    How sure are you that they it wasn't easy for them here? It seems to me like it's just a regular start, with less innings to complete. The game was also tied. Maybe the only thing was that Fister had to pitch first on the road that might throw him a bit off, if any.



    Being a pitcher in the MLB is all about routine and repetition.  Being thrown into a game that's already in progress (albeit one that is tied and only in the 2nd inning) is enough of a break in routine that it can throw of their mental preparation and focus.  Might not seem like a big deal, but inside the head of a major league pitcher, it weighs more than you think.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hutasadorn:

    Great post as always Butch.

    I like the play.

    Question.

    "I’m sure it wasn’t easy for either Fister or Nova to come into a game already in progress. "

    How sure are you that they it wasn't easy for them here? It seems to me like it's just a regular start, with less innings to complete. The game was also tied. Maybe the only thing was that Fister had to pitch first on the road that might throw him a bit off, if any.



    Being a pitcher in the MLB is all about routine and repetition.  Being thrown into a game that's already in progress (albeit one that is tied and only in the 2nd inning) is enough of a break in routine that it can throw of their mental preparation and focus.  Might not seem like a big deal, but inside the head of a major league pitcher, it weighs more than you think.
     
     
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