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    who thinks some of these games are rigged ?

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    Posted: Nov. 24, 2025 - 2:34 PM ET #26

    Well all investments and gambling are being controlled, that’s for sure 

    we have market makers in stock or crypto trading 

    and for sports betting , we have sportsbook to manipulate the outcome for the game

    its all about money , guys 

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    Well all investments and gambling are being controlled, that’s for sure 

    we have market makers in stock or crypto trading 

    and for sports betting , we have sportsbook to manipulate the outcome for the game

    its all about money , guys 

     
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    Posted: Nov. 24, 2025 - 2:48 PM ET #27

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     Does anyone actually believe ticket, food, and advertising sales for few home games pay for all those multi-million-dollar salaries for players and people working for the organization?

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     Does anyone actually believe ticket, food, and advertising sales for few home games pay for all those multi-million-dollar salaries for players and people working for the organization?

     
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    Posted: Nov. 24, 2025 - 2:55 PM ET #28

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    Posted: Nov. 24, 2025 - 3:06 PM ET #29

    Quote Originally Posted by justliketoplay:

    I don't care I had the under in that game. Kind of upset. I didn't take the under in the Tampa game appears it may happen tonight as well. Last five prime time have gone under the same shit happened in that game too in LA  Play basketball?  Seems like an offensive explosion the first half. Then the brakes are applied in the second half and the game falls under and vice versa. If you feel that these games are scripted and rigged then play according to the script that you feel is at hand. Just quit the complaining and try to adjust to where you think the particular game that you're wagering on falls.

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by justliketoplay:

    I don't care I had the under in that game. Kind of upset. I didn't take the under in the Tampa game appears it may happen tonight as well. Last five prime time have gone under the same shit happened in that game too in LA  Play basketball?  Seems like an offensive explosion the first half. Then the brakes are applied in the second half and the game falls under and vice versa. If you feel that these games are scripted and rigged then play according to the script that you feel is at hand. Just quit the complaining and try to adjust to where you think the particular game that you're wagering on falls.

     

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    Posted: Nov. 24, 2025 - 3:06 PM ET #30

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     $ fingerprint all over that 2nd half total.

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     $ fingerprint all over that 2nd half total.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 24, 2025 - 3:12 PM ET #31

    @phillies73

     Just like how Giants handed the game to Lions, or Colts to Chiefs, etc etc.

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     Just like how Giants handed the game to Lions, or Colts to Chiefs, etc etc.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 24, 2025 - 3:14 PM ET #32

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     There's money on both sides. The NFL is merely a bad product now because no one plays in the preseason and no one practices anymore. Teams are full of stupid players, bad coaches, and analytics determine what they do most of the time. Dallas was stupid for not kicking a field goal with 3 minutes left in the game. 

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     There's money on both sides. The NFL is merely a bad product now because no one plays in the preseason and no one practices anymore. Teams are full of stupid players, bad coaches, and analytics determine what they do most of the time. Dallas was stupid for not kicking a field goal with 3 minutes left in the game. 

     
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    Posted: Nov. 24, 2025 - 3:16 PM ET #33

    I wonder if you will still say its rig if the result is in your favor?? 

    Even a broken clock is right twice a day.
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    I wonder if you will still say its rig if the result is in your favor?? 

     
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    Posted: Nov. 24, 2025 - 3:17 PM ET #34

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     That's the excuse? You really believe that?

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    @Manimizer

     That's the excuse? You really believe that?

     
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    Posted: Nov. 24, 2025 - 3:17 PM ET #35

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     YES. Been blessed hundreds of times and knew why.

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     YES. Been blessed hundreds of times and knew why.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 24, 2025 - 3:23 PM ET #36

    Hopefully I won't get boxed for my humble opinion. Can't believe this thread hasn't been torched yet.

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    Hopefully I won't get boxed for my humble opinion. Can't believe this thread hasn't been torched yet.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 24, 2025 - 3:27 PM ET #37

    Some good comments in here. Saying its rigged puts in some people's minds that both teams are in on it. 

    They dont have to be. The games are massaged in the direction they want it to go by referree calls and no calls. There's no dispute in my opinion, its so obvious to see. They tried to do it very obviously in the Denver/KC game but Denver would not be denied and so KC lost again. But make no mistake, the calls came at the pivotal moment to help KC get that last drive. 

    I saw people talking about the CLE/LV game going under bc they punted from the 30. I actually dont see a conspiracy there for the under. There was only 59 secs left up 14, and LV could do literally nothing on offense. Why kick a long fg with a guy who's not a great kicker? The options were go for it or punt and there was 0 chance of them losing. That one is easily explainable

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    Some good comments in here. Saying its rigged puts in some people's minds that both teams are in on it. 

    They dont have to be. The games are massaged in the direction they want it to go by referree calls and no calls. There's no dispute in my opinion, its so obvious to see. They tried to do it very obviously in the Denver/KC game but Denver would not be denied and so KC lost again. But make no mistake, the calls came at the pivotal moment to help KC get that last drive. 

    I saw people talking about the CLE/LV game going under bc they punted from the 30. I actually dont see a conspiracy there for the under. There was only 59 secs left up 14, and LV could do literally nothing on offense. Why kick a long fg with a guy who's not a great kicker? The options were go for it or punt and there was 0 chance of them losing. That one is easily explainable

     
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    Posted: Nov. 24, 2025 - 3:35 PM ET #38

    In my 50+ years of sports gambling, have seen it all, unusual plays and bad beats, the only thing that is annoying is the bad calls by the refs- anything questionable should be sent to review as they can such as Kelce’s touchdown in the first quarter, which was nullified by a facemask which was fictional

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    In my 50+ years of sports gambling, have seen it all, unusual plays and bad beats, the only thing that is annoying is the bad calls by the refs- anything questionable should be sent to review as they can such as Kelce’s touchdown in the first quarter, which was nullified by a facemask which was fictional

     
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    Posted: Nov. 24, 2025 - 3:36 PM ET #39

    Anything with money involved in it is rigged and if you can’t admit that you just lying to yourself 

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    Anything with money involved in it is rigged and if you can’t admit that you just lying to yourself 

     
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    Posted: Nov. 24, 2025 - 3:37 PM ET #40

    They tried to do it very obviously in the Denver/KC game but Denver would not be denied and so KC lost again. But make no mistake, the calls came at the pivotal moment to help KC get that last drive. 

     

    IMHO, Denver not being denied had nothing to do with it. The orchestrated last drive was for entertainment purposes only. How many thousands of times have we watched the last drive determining who covers????? The winner has already been decided depending on where the money lies.  Add this one to the mix. Don't get me wrong, the public money wins also. That's what makes this hobby so difficult. Difficult in most cases to figure out the script.

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    They tried to do it very obviously in the Denver/KC game but Denver would not be denied and so KC lost again. But make no mistake, the calls came at the pivotal moment to help KC get that last drive. 

     

    IMHO, Denver not being denied had nothing to do with it. The orchestrated last drive was for entertainment purposes only. How many thousands of times have we watched the last drive determining who covers????? The winner has already been decided depending on where the money lies.  Add this one to the mix. Don't get me wrong, the public money wins also. That's what makes this hobby so difficult. Difficult in most cases to figure out the script.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 24, 2025 - 3:45 PM ET #41

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     You really think these refs can be this bad on a decades basis. Do you think maybe they are paid to do what they're told? They are being paid by the NFL and who knows who else.

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     You really think these refs can be this bad on a decades basis. Do you think maybe they are paid to do what they're told? They are being paid by the NFL and who knows who else.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 24, 2025 - 4:54 PM ET #42

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    Posted: Nov. 24, 2025 - 5:17 PM ET #43

    Going to throw my 2 cents in.If they want a game to stay under just call penalties like holding when there is a big play. You want over call more penalties on the d on pass plays..BUT here is the one where l think Vegas is in o  the games, not all games but some.  Why do teams get fined if by Friday you don't give a proper list of who might play or not play .l see in the NHL,NBA teams hide their lineup right until almost game time.That part makes me wonder why the NFL fines teams Just my opinion guys

     

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    Going to throw my 2 cents in.If they want a game to stay under just call penalties like holding when there is a big play. You want over call more penalties on the d on pass plays..BUT here is the one where l think Vegas is in o  the games, not all games but some.  Why do teams get fined if by Friday you don't give a proper list of who might play or not play .l see in the NHL,NBA teams hide their lineup right until almost game time.That part makes me wonder why the NFL fines teams Just my opinion guys

     

     
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    Posted: Nov. 24, 2025 - 5:22 PM ET #44

    Games are rigged and if you didn’t send in your 99 bucks for this year playbook you don’t know

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    Games are rigged and if you didn’t send in your 99 bucks for this year playbook you don’t know

     
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    Posted: Nov. 24, 2025 - 5:57 PM ET #45

    Fixed fixed fixed its all a show money brings corruption and its all riggedan_laughnew_tounge_wink

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    Fixed fixed fixed its all a show money brings corruption and its all riggedan_laughnew_tounge_wink

     
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    Posted: Nov. 24, 2025 - 6:27 PM ET #46

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     Yes. Money is money. Too blatant of a variation. It has happened a lot over the years. Not a coincidence. It's not pocket change.

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     Yes. Money is money. Too blatant of a variation. It has happened a lot over the years. Not a coincidence. It's not pocket change.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 24, 2025 - 6:42 PM ET #47

    Agree with a few who have been gambling quite a while and have seen it all -a bad call, a bad coaching decision, a bad play happens. It just seems it’s under more scrutiny right now

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    Agree with a few who have been gambling quite a while and have seen it all -a bad call, a bad coaching decision, a bad play happens. It just seems it’s under more scrutiny right now

     
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    Posted: Nov. 24, 2025 - 6:44 PM ET #48

    Quote Originally Posted by RustyBlade:

    Quote Originally Posted by jpot34: @unplucked_gem  $ fingerprint all over that 2nd half total. Of the total amount of money wagered every which away possible on NFL last week, you really believe that the fixers would chose the 2nd half total of Browns/Raiders game to pick up what, pocket change.

    an_clap People actually think there are billions bet on every game everyday. an_roll_laugh 25k legal books in the world, all with different handles. I remember when 2 street bookies, booking games a mile away from each other would have different handles on games, thus the reason books would lay off action to other bookies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RustyBlade:

    Quote Originally Posted by jpot34: @unplucked_gem  $ fingerprint all over that 2nd half total. Of the total amount of money wagered every which away possible on NFL last week, you really believe that the fixers would chose the 2nd half total of Browns/Raiders game to pick up what, pocket change.

    an_clap People actually think there are billions bet on every game everyday. an_roll_laugh 25k legal books in the world, all with different handles. I remember when 2 street bookies, booking games a mile away from each other would have different handles on games, thus the reason books would lay off action to other bookies.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 24, 2025 - 6:52 PM ET #49

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     Rusty/CD - we agree to disagree. Let it go.

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     Rusty/CD - we agree to disagree. Let it go.

     
     
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    Posted: Nov. 24, 2025 - 7:19 PM ET #50

    You guys are getting it slightly confused...you have to follow the money

     

    NFL owners biggest money maker is TV deals. Those deals make money by selling advertisement slots.

     

    Those advertisement slots are worth 'x'  amount of dollars based on viewership  numbers. For example the price of a super bowl 30 second advertisement slot is so high because around 100 million people are viewing the game. 

    Obviously a regular season game has less viewers so the price is lower. But that's how the system/pricing works

     

    Owners are in the business of making money. So they want viewership numbers to stay consistent through the entire game if possible, to keep those advertisment slots at as high a dollar value as possible. The closer the game the more likely the viewer will stayed tuned in

     

    This means they dont want blowouts if at all possible

     

    This is where the refs come into play

     

    Refs are obviously instructed to keep games as close as possible...if possible...obviously there will be blowouts at times where things are out of their control...maybe a team fumbles 5 times and goes down 35-3...or a QB has a career game and his team gets up 28-0...anything is possible so obviously not every game can be massaged by the refs...but a majority of the time a game will be within 1-21 points going into the 4th quarter 

     

    Now pay attention to how many times a team leading in the 4th quarter by 2-3 possessions will have a drive-stalling penalty called on them  or the team trailing will have a drive-extending penalty called to help them get back in the game...this isnt accidental and happens basically every week in a few games...they want to keep games close/entertaining so viewers stay tuned in and keep viewership numbers up to keep those advertisement slots at their value. If everyone shuts off the TV at the end of the 3rd quarter it hurts viewership numbers, which is the owners #1 money maker....

     

    For example the eagles had this happen in 2 or 3 of their first 5 games. The team I follow the most. If I remember correctly it was a hold in 2 of the games in the 4th Q to stall drives and I cant remember the 3rd one now but I could check the game logs and it would be there.

     

    And there are countless other examples...its just how the league operates... Typically a holding call in the 4th Q to stall a team up 2-3 possessions is most common.. But they can call basically anything to stall a drive. to hopefully give the team down a chance to make the game more interesting and keep people tuned into their TV to keep viewership numbers up

     

    You just have to follow the money and what makes owners money...they want to maximize profits just like any business would/should...as sad as it is money makes the world go round

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    You guys are getting it slightly confused...you have to follow the money

     

    NFL owners biggest money maker is TV deals. Those deals make money by selling advertisement slots.

     

    Those advertisement slots are worth 'x'  amount of dollars based on viewership  numbers. For example the price of a super bowl 30 second advertisement slot is so high because around 100 million people are viewing the game. 

    Obviously a regular season game has less viewers so the price is lower. But that's how the system/pricing works

     

    Owners are in the business of making money. So they want viewership numbers to stay consistent through the entire game if possible, to keep those advertisment slots at as high a dollar value as possible. The closer the game the more likely the viewer will stayed tuned in

     

    This means they dont want blowouts if at all possible

     

    This is where the refs come into play

     

    Refs are obviously instructed to keep games as close as possible...if possible...obviously there will be blowouts at times where things are out of their control...maybe a team fumbles 5 times and goes down 35-3...or a QB has a career game and his team gets up 28-0...anything is possible so obviously not every game can be massaged by the refs...but a majority of the time a game will be within 1-21 points going into the 4th quarter 

     

    Now pay attention to how many times a team leading in the 4th quarter by 2-3 possessions will have a drive-stalling penalty called on them  or the team trailing will have a drive-extending penalty called to help them get back in the game...this isnt accidental and happens basically every week in a few games...they want to keep games close/entertaining so viewers stay tuned in and keep viewership numbers up to keep those advertisement slots at their value. If everyone shuts off the TV at the end of the 3rd quarter it hurts viewership numbers, which is the owners #1 money maker....

     

    For example the eagles had this happen in 2 or 3 of their first 5 games. The team I follow the most. If I remember correctly it was a hold in 2 of the games in the 4th Q to stall drives and I cant remember the 3rd one now but I could check the game logs and it would be there.

     

    And there are countless other examples...its just how the league operates... Typically a holding call in the 4th Q to stall a team up 2-3 possessions is most common.. But they can call basically anything to stall a drive. to hopefully give the team down a chance to make the game more interesting and keep people tuned into their TV to keep viewership numbers up

     

    You just have to follow the money and what makes owners money...they want to maximize profits just like any business would/should...as sad as it is money makes the world go round

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