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    Name 1-3 obvious “over” teams

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    Posted: Sep. 24, 2023 - 12:05 AM ET #1

    Every year I look at NHL totals, although I know far less about hockey than most. Who are  a few over teams that are so obvious everyone should know? 

    I’ll go first, Panthers are an obvious one. They’ve been a high scoring team for a while. What say you?

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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.

    Every year I look at NHL totals, although I know far less about hockey than most. Who are  a few over teams that are so obvious everyone should know? 

    I’ll go first, Panthers are an obvious one. They’ve been a high scoring team for a while. What say you?

     
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    Posted: Sep. 25, 2023 - 12:35 PM ET #2

    oilers

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    oilers

     
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    Posted: Sep. 25, 2023 - 5:08 PM ET #3

    Buffalo

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    Buffalo

     
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    Posted: Sep. 25, 2023 - 5:26 PM ET #4

    I'll say Leafs

    Lots of scoring options, but defense and goaltending will be a problem.

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    I'll say Leafs

    Lots of scoring options, but defense and goaltending will be a problem.

     
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    Posted: Sep. 25, 2023 - 10:34 PM ET #5

    Coloradooooooooo 

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    Coloradooooooooo 

     
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    Posted: Sep. 26, 2023 - 2:00 PM ET #6

    Sabres oilers panthers

    Careful with colorado

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    Sabres oilers panthers

    Careful with colorado

     
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    Posted: Sep. 26, 2023 - 2:58 PM ET #7

    I think the Blues were 1 of the teams with the most overs last year in the regular season,which to me was kind of surprising.

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    I think the Blues were 1 of the teams with the most overs last year in the regular season,which to me was kind of surprising.

     
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    Posted: Sep. 26, 2023 - 7:14 PM ET #8

    Too hard to point out an obvious yet imo.  Gotta get a couple weeks into the reg season. Roster changed, coaching changes etc will influence past from present 

    Oilers will be tough cuz we'll be seeing 6.5s all season

    I do think Chicago overs will be up over 2022

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    Too hard to point out an obvious yet imo.  Gotta get a couple weeks into the reg season. Roster changed, coaching changes etc will influence past from present 

    Oilers will be tough cuz we'll be seeing 6.5s all season

    I do think Chicago overs will be up over 2022

     
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    Posted: Oct. 1, 2023 - 9:29 PM ET #9

    Sharks and canucks 2 big over teams last year as well

     

    Oilers/panthers/Sabres/blues as others mentioned

     

    Overs hit at a decent rate 1st week or 2 of season

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    Sharks and canucks 2 big over teams last year as well

     

    Oilers/panthers/Sabres/blues as others mentioned

     

    Overs hit at a decent rate 1st week or 2 of season

     
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    Posted: Oct. 3, 2023 - 12:56 AM ET #10

    Devils huge. They have a ton of speed and scoring but the goaltending is still a bit questionable with Vanecek and Schmid and their high risk play results in a lot chances both ways. These are not the Jacques Lemaire neutral zone trapping Devils. 

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    Devils huge. They have a ton of speed and scoring but the goaltending is still a bit questionable with Vanecek and Schmid and their high risk play results in a lot chances both ways. These are not the Jacques Lemaire neutral zone trapping Devils. 

     
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    Posted: Oct. 3, 2023 - 9:57 AM ET #11

    Wondering if we will see an uptick in posted totals from the books this year. I think we were creeping into some 7.5/8 territory last year with teams like Oil and Cats.

    "Goaltending is 90 percent of the game, unless you don't have it. Then it's 100 percent."
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    Wondering if we will see an uptick in posted totals from the books this year. I think we were creeping into some 7.5/8 territory last year with teams like Oil and Cats.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 3, 2023 - 7:42 PM ET #12

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     Good call

     

    Potentially pens as well...Karlsson and Letang getting up there and not great defenders

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    @rangersmets

     Good call

     

    Potentially pens as well...Karlsson and Letang getting up there and not great defenders

     
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    Posted: Oct. 3, 2023 - 7:43 PM ET #13

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     Will be interesting. 5.5 seems to be a thing of the past. Standard 6.0 a lot and the standard 6.5 with higher scoring teams and 7.0 with 2 high scoring teams

     

    Sometimes adjusted by the books for injuries/hot goalies

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     Will be interesting. 5.5 seems to be a thing of the past. Standard 6.0 a lot and the standard 6.5 with higher scoring teams and 7.0 with 2 high scoring teams

     

    Sometimes adjusted by the books for injuries/hot goalies

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by dubz4dummyz:

    @Gainsford  Will be interesting. 5.5 seems to be a thing of the past. Standard 6.0 a lot and the standard 6.5 with higher scoring teams and 7.0 with 2 high scoring teams   Sometimes adjusted by the books for injuries/hot goalies

    Remember the days of the 4.5s... like every nyr vs NJ or vs isles was that... and the unders hit like crazy

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    Quote Originally Posted by dubz4dummyz:

    @Gainsford  Will be interesting. 5.5 seems to be a thing of the past. Standard 6.0 a lot and the standard 6.5 with higher scoring teams and 7.0 with 2 high scoring teams   Sometimes adjusted by the books for injuries/hot goalies

    Remember the days of the 4.5s... like every nyr vs NJ or vs isles was that... and the unders hit like crazy

     
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    Posted: Oct. 4, 2023 - 8:30 PM ET #15

    Last year I made some coin betting Sharks and Oilers overs. The days of the 5.0 are long gone. When I first started spreadsheeting overs in 2017, they were still prevalent. By 2019 they were pretty rare. With teams like the Sharks and Oilers, it’s hard to avoid O/Us of 7 now. Although last year, totals of 7 started off 0-6 to the under if I remember correctly.

    Teams I was wary of for overs because of fears the bad teams might not score, or the good teams would shut down their opponents:

    NJ

    Colorado

    Detroit

    Chicago

    Las Vegas

    Kings

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    Last year I made some coin betting Sharks and Oilers overs. The days of the 5.0 are long gone. When I first started spreadsheeting overs in 2017, they were still prevalent. By 2019 they were pretty rare. With teams like the Sharks and Oilers, it’s hard to avoid O/Us of 7 now. Although last year, totals of 7 started off 0-6 to the under if I remember correctly.

    Teams I was wary of for overs because of fears the bad teams might not score, or the good teams would shut down their opponents:

    NJ

    Colorado

    Detroit

    Chicago

    Las Vegas

    Kings

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by nuggins:

    Quote Originally Posted by dubz4dummyz: @Gainsford  Will be interesting. 5.5 seems to be a thing of the past. Standard 6.0 a lot and the standard 6.5 with higher scoring teams and 7.0 with 2 high scoring teams   Sometimes adjusted by the books for injuries/hot goalies Remember the days of the 4.5s... like every nyr vs NJ or vs isles was that... and the unders hit like crazy

     

    Reminds of a pre-game interview with Colin Campbell when he coached the Rangers in the late-90s. NYR playing Buffalo and reporter asked him what to expect. Colin replied "probably another soccer game." Yep, times have changed. Another reason I don't bet unders often is the number of empty net goals. Teams sometimes pull their goalies down 3-0 or 4-0 with 7 or 8 minutes to play. What looked like a sure under suddenly not so much. So it's not just the rule changes leading to more goals, it's the philosophy of some of these coaches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nuggins:

    Quote Originally Posted by dubz4dummyz: @Gainsford  Will be interesting. 5.5 seems to be a thing of the past. Standard 6.0 a lot and the standard 6.5 with higher scoring teams and 7.0 with 2 high scoring teams   Sometimes adjusted by the books for injuries/hot goalies Remember the days of the 4.5s... like every nyr vs NJ or vs isles was that... and the unders hit like crazy

     

    Reminds of a pre-game interview with Colin Campbell when he coached the Rangers in the late-90s. NYR playing Buffalo and reporter asked him what to expect. Colin replied "probably another soccer game." Yep, times have changed. Another reason I don't bet unders often is the number of empty net goals. Teams sometimes pull their goalies down 3-0 or 4-0 with 7 or 8 minutes to play. What looked like a sure under suddenly not so much. So it's not just the rule changes leading to more goals, it's the philosophy of some of these coaches.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 5, 2023 - 11:41 PM ET #17

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     The Sharks definitely quit on a few games last year. I think they got thumped by the Oilers, hit the over at the 30 min mark.

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     The Sharks definitely quit on a few games last year. I think they got thumped by the Oilers, hit the over at the 30 min mark.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by rangersmets:

    Quote Originally Posted by nuggins: Quote Originally Posted by dubz4dummyz: @Gainsford  Will be interesting. 5.5 seems to be a thing of the past. Standard 6.0 a lot and the standard 6.5 with higher scoring teams and 7.0 with 2 high scoring teams   Sometimes adjusted by the books for injuries/hot goalies Remember the days of the 4.5s... like every nyr vs NJ or vs isles was that... and the unders hit like crazy   Reminds of a pre-game interview with Colin Campbell when he coached the Rangers in the late-90s. NYR playing Buffalo and reporter asked him what to expect. Colin replied "probably another soccer game." Yep, times have changed. Another reason I don't bet unders often is the number of empty net goals. Teams sometimes pull their goalies down 3-0 or 4-0 with 7 or 8 minutes to play. What looked like a sure under suddenly not so much. So it's not just the rule changes leading to more goals, it's the philosophy of some of these coaches.

    I never bet unders in any sport..it's either over or no play.  Been like this for like last 10 years... I swear that I lost every 9 outta 10 unders

    And I hate rooting for no goals/ hits/ TDs becuase I like watching high scoring back n forth games. Then someone scores then stressing it doesn't happen more. Stressing penalties etc. Not fun for me

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    Quote Originally Posted by rangersmets:

    Quote Originally Posted by nuggins: Quote Originally Posted by dubz4dummyz: @Gainsford  Will be interesting. 5.5 seems to be a thing of the past. Standard 6.0 a lot and the standard 6.5 with higher scoring teams and 7.0 with 2 high scoring teams   Sometimes adjusted by the books for injuries/hot goalies Remember the days of the 4.5s... like every nyr vs NJ or vs isles was that... and the unders hit like crazy   Reminds of a pre-game interview with Colin Campbell when he coached the Rangers in the late-90s. NYR playing Buffalo and reporter asked him what to expect. Colin replied "probably another soccer game." Yep, times have changed. Another reason I don't bet unders often is the number of empty net goals. Teams sometimes pull their goalies down 3-0 or 4-0 with 7 or 8 minutes to play. What looked like a sure under suddenly not so much. So it's not just the rule changes leading to more goals, it's the philosophy of some of these coaches.

    I never bet unders in any sport..it's either over or no play.  Been like this for like last 10 years... I swear that I lost every 9 outta 10 unders

    And I hate rooting for no goals/ hits/ TDs becuase I like watching high scoring back n forth games. Then someone scores then stressing it doesn't happen more. Stressing penalties etc. Not fun for me

     
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    Posted: Oct. 6, 2023 - 2:21 AM ET #19

    Quote Originally Posted by nuggins:

    Quote Originally Posted by rangersmets: Quote Originally Posted by nuggins: Quote Originally Posted by dubz4dummyz: @Gainsford  Will be interesting. 5.5 seems to be a thing of the past. Standard 6.0 a lot and the standard 6.5 with higher scoring teams and 7.0 with 2 high scoring teams   Sometimes adjusted by the books for injuries/hot goalies Remember the days of the 4.5s... like every nyr vs NJ or vs isles was that... and the unders hit like crazy   Reminds of a pre-game interview with Colin Campbell when he coached the Rangers in the late-90s. NYR playing Buffalo and reporter asked him what to expect. Colin replied "probably another soccer game." Yep, times have changed. Another reason I don't bet unders often is the number of empty net goals. Teams sometimes pull their goalies down 3-0 or 4-0 with 7 or 8 minutes to play. What looked like a sure under suddenly not so much. So it's not just the rule changes leading to more goals, it's the philosophy of some of these coaches. I never bet unders in any sport..it's either over or no play.  Been like this for like last 10 years... I swear that I lost every 9 outta 10 unders And I hate rooting for no goals/ hits/ TDs becuase I like watching high scoring back n forth games. Then someone scores then stressing it doesn't happen more. Stressing penalties etc. Not fun for me

    Honestly, I'm not watching most of the games I bet. It's more of a numbers game for me. Sure, the Sharks/Oilers games where you anticipate record goals, I'll watch. And I would also watch the Bruins just shut teams down last year on the extreme unders. But tbh I'd rather have a winning bet than watch the game. 

    I guess I've had enough NBA late buckets ruin bets, to where I can have total apathy to NHL results anymore. All that being said, the late overs are clearly a newer trend and definitely should be taken into consideration when placing bets. A lot has changed since 2016.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nuggins:

    Quote Originally Posted by rangersmets: Quote Originally Posted by nuggins: Quote Originally Posted by dubz4dummyz: @Gainsford  Will be interesting. 5.5 seems to be a thing of the past. Standard 6.0 a lot and the standard 6.5 with higher scoring teams and 7.0 with 2 high scoring teams   Sometimes adjusted by the books for injuries/hot goalies Remember the days of the 4.5s... like every nyr vs NJ or vs isles was that... and the unders hit like crazy   Reminds of a pre-game interview with Colin Campbell when he coached the Rangers in the late-90s. NYR playing Buffalo and reporter asked him what to expect. Colin replied "probably another soccer game." Yep, times have changed. Another reason I don't bet unders often is the number of empty net goals. Teams sometimes pull their goalies down 3-0 or 4-0 with 7 or 8 minutes to play. What looked like a sure under suddenly not so much. So it's not just the rule changes leading to more goals, it's the philosophy of some of these coaches. I never bet unders in any sport..it's either over or no play.  Been like this for like last 10 years... I swear that I lost every 9 outta 10 unders And I hate rooting for no goals/ hits/ TDs becuase I like watching high scoring back n forth games. Then someone scores then stressing it doesn't happen more. Stressing penalties etc. Not fun for me

    Honestly, I'm not watching most of the games I bet. It's more of a numbers game for me. Sure, the Sharks/Oilers games where you anticipate record goals, I'll watch. And I would also watch the Bruins just shut teams down last year on the extreme unders. But tbh I'd rather have a winning bet than watch the game. 

    I guess I've had enough NBA late buckets ruin bets, to where I can have total apathy to NHL results anymore. All that being said, the late overs are clearly a newer trend and definitely should be taken into consideration when placing bets. A lot has changed since 2016.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 6, 2023 - 8:50 AM ET #20

    Barring special circumstances I'm looking to bet over 6.5 or 7. That's my go to hockey bet. Especially when the ML is less than -200. 

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    Barring special circumstances I'm looking to bet over 6.5 or 7. That's my go to hockey bet. Especially when the ML is less than -200. 

     
     
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    Posted: Oct. 6, 2023 - 1:28 PM ET #21

    If I'm not mistaken the sharks had an insane over record at home last season...

     

    Karlsson to the pens might make sj a bit tighter...he doesnt play much D..

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    If I'm not mistaken the sharks had an insane over record at home last season...

     

    Karlsson to the pens might make sj a bit tighter...he doesnt play much D..

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