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    Why Do Teams Like The Raiders Keep Trying To Win?

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    rosswin97
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    Posted: Dec. 29, 2024 - 12:24 PM ET #1

    why would you keep trying to win when you could get a higher draft pick. they seem to play hard still and Im sure they'd like a different qb

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    why would you keep trying to win when you could get a higher draft pick. they seem to play hard still and Im sure they'd like a different qb

     
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    Posted: Dec. 29, 2024 - 12:25 PM ET #2

    The players have an average like 3-5 yr career, they dont care about draft picks or long term. They need to perform so they can get a contract and make money while they can

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    The players have an average like 3-5 yr career, they dont care about draft picks or long term. They need to perform so they can get a contract and make money while they can

     
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    Posted: Dec. 29, 2024 - 12:28 PM ET #3

    Because players still want to win! They still want that next contract. Pride. Etc

    These guys "want to lose" and have teams draft guys to take their jobs?

    Histrionic personality disorder. It's sad
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    Because players still want to win! They still want that next contract. Pride. Etc

    These guys "want to lose" and have teams draft guys to take their jobs?

     
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    Posted: Dec. 29, 2024 - 12:28 PM ET #4

    My gut tells me Saints pull this game off despite a big game from Bowers. 

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    My gut tells me Saints pull this game off despite a big game from Bowers. 

     
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    Posted: Dec. 29, 2024 - 12:28 PM ET #5

    BOL cloveron your play & Happy Holidays@rosswin97peace_5

    is that a rhetorical question? an_slap

     

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    BOL cloveron your play & Happy Holidays@rosswin97peace_5

    is that a rhetorical question? an_slap

     

     
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    Posted: Dec. 29, 2024 - 12:32 PM ET #6

    Great question..

    Also why do bad teams that seemed to not care about winning all year suddenly care the last two games? Lol

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    Great question..

    Also why do bad teams that seemed to not care about winning all year suddenly care the last two games? Lol

    Give me a 2 Team Teaser

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    Posted: Dec. 29, 2024 - 12:33 PM ET #7

    Bcuz draft picks guarantee nothing.  Tom brady went in the sixth round.

    Mahomes was pick number 10.  Trubisky was draft before him.

    You must like getting walk on in life.

    No man with any sort of pride, not gonna try to win at anything he does. Especially sports.

     

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    Bcuz draft picks guarantee nothing.  Tom brady went in the sixth round.

    Mahomes was pick number 10.  Trubisky was draft before him.

    You must like getting walk on in life.

    No man with any sort of pride, not gonna try to win at anything he does. Especially sports.

     

     
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    Posted: Dec. 29, 2024 - 12:43 PM ET #8

    Quote Originally Posted by wmi799:

    Because players still want to win! They still want that next contract. Pride. Etc These guys "want to lose" and have teams draft guys to take their jobs?

    peace_5

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    Quote Originally Posted by wmi799:

    Because players still want to win! They still want that next contract. Pride. Etc These guys "want to lose" and have teams draft guys to take their jobs?

    peace_5

     
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    Posted: Dec. 29, 2024 - 1:22 PM ET #9

    I hear you guys but feel this would be a management decision. therefore don't field all of your best players, don't play all of the first string and run plays, formations, and coverages that are counter productive to winning the game. the players can still play their hearts out but they just won't win because of factors keeping them from winning. this happen in the nba.

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    I hear you guys but feel this would be a management decision. therefore don't field all of your best players, don't play all of the first string and run plays, formations, and coverages that are counter productive to winning the game. the players can still play their hearts out but they just won't win because of factors keeping them from winning. this happen in the nba.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 29, 2024 - 1:29 PM ET #10

    LIVE wager B4 the score UN 39.5

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    LIVE wager B4 the score UN 39.5

     
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    Posted: Dec. 29, 2024 - 1:31 PM ET #11

    Quote Originally Posted by rosswin97:

    I hear you guys but feel this would be a management decision. therefore don't field all of your best players, don't play all of the first string and run plays, formations, and coverages that are counter productive to winning the game. the players can still play their hearts out but they just won't win because of factors keeping them from winning. this happen in the nba.

    What?confused

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    Quote Originally Posted by rosswin97:

    I hear you guys but feel this would be a management decision. therefore don't field all of your best players, don't play all of the first string and run plays, formations, and coverages that are counter productive to winning the game. the players can still play their hearts out but they just won't win because of factors keeping them from winning. this happen in the nba.

    What?confused

     
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    Posted: Dec. 29, 2024 - 1:37 PM ET #12

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     Because S.Sanders and T.Hunter and C.Ward aren't that good it showed in the bowl games week draft this year raiders trade draft pick and get  JJMcCarthy from vikes I hope this is what happens

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    @rosswin97

     Because S.Sanders and T.Hunter and C.Ward aren't that good it showed in the bowl games week draft this year raiders trade draft pick and get  JJMcCarthy from vikes I hope this is what happens

     
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    Posted: Dec. 29, 2024 - 1:38 PM ET #13

    Raiders 2025 peace_5

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    Raiders 2025 peace_5

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by rosswin97:

    I hear you guys but feel this would be a management decision. therefore don't field all of your best players, don't play all of the first string and run plays, formations, and coverages that are counter productive to winning the game. the players can still play their hearts out but they just won't win because of factors keeping them from winning. this happen in the nba.

     

    Davis wants to win. Antonio Pierce needs to win.  Players have pride.  and all the other good reasons to play hard. 

    some teams just suck and cant help but losing.  

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    Quote Originally Posted by rosswin97:

    I hear you guys but feel this would be a management decision. therefore don't field all of your best players, don't play all of the first string and run plays, formations, and coverages that are counter productive to winning the game. the players can still play their hearts out but they just won't win because of factors keeping them from winning. this happen in the nba.

     

    Davis wants to win. Antonio Pierce needs to win.  Players have pride.  and all the other good reasons to play hard. 

    some teams just suck and cant help but losing.  

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by rosswin97:

    I hear you guys but feel this would be a management decision. therefore don't field all of your best players, don't play all of the first string and run plays, formations, and coverages that are counter productive to winning the game. the players can still play their hearts out but they just won't win because of factors keeping them from winning. this happen in the nba.

     

    Davis wants to win. Antonio Pierce needs to win.  Players have pride.  and all the other good reasons to play hard. 

    some teams just suck and cant help but losing.  

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    Quote Originally Posted by rosswin97:

    I hear you guys but feel this would be a management decision. therefore don't field all of your best players, don't play all of the first string and run plays, formations, and coverages that are counter productive to winning the game. the players can still play their hearts out but they just won't win because of factors keeping them from winning. this happen in the nba.

     

    Davis wants to win. Antonio Pierce needs to win.  Players have pride.  and all the other good reasons to play hard. 

    some teams just suck and cant help but losing.  

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Token13:

    @rosswin97  Because S.Sanders and T.Hunter and C.Ward aren't that good it showed in the bowl games week draft this year raiders trade draft pick and get  JJMcCarthy from vikes I hope this is what happens
    you mention a meaningless bowl game but not the other games that caused hunter to win the heisman and sanders to win numerous qb awards  confused

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    @rosswin97  Because S.Sanders and T.Hunter and C.Ward aren't that good it showed in the bowl games week draft this year raiders trade draft pick and get  JJMcCarthy from vikes I hope this is what happens
    you mention a meaningless bowl game but not the other games that caused hunter to win the heisman and sanders to win numerous qb awards  confused

     
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    and the giants acting like they want to win like they dont need a qb, I guess they are waiting on another danny dimes to come down the pike. I think some teams want to be mediocre some dont try to win, coach sanders talked about those teams when he was playing. 

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    and the giants acting like they want to win like they dont need a qb, I guess they are waiting on another danny dimes to come down the pike. I think some teams want to be mediocre some dont try to win, coach sanders talked about those teams when he was playing. 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by rosswin97:

    Quote Originally Posted by Token13: @rosswin97  Because S.Sanders and T.Hunter and C.Ward aren't that good it showed in the bowl games week draft this year raiders trade draft pick and get  JJMcCarthy from vikes I hope this is what happensyou mention a meaningless bowl game but not the other games that caused hunter to win the heisman and sanders to win numerous qb awards

     

    there are a lot of salty people about CU losing yesterday in a fairly meaningless game where avoiding injury was a pretty important factor

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    Quote Originally Posted by Token13: @rosswin97  Because S.Sanders and T.Hunter and C.Ward aren't that good it showed in the bowl games week draft this year raiders trade draft pick and get  JJMcCarthy from vikes I hope this is what happensyou mention a meaningless bowl game but not the other games that caused hunter to win the heisman and sanders to win numerous qb awards

     

    there are a lot of salty people about CU losing yesterday in a fairly meaningless game where avoiding injury was a pretty important factor

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by rosswin97:

    and the giants acting like they want to win like they dont need a qb, I guess they are waiting on another danny dimes to come down the pike. I think some teams want to be mediocre some dont try to win, coach sanders talked about those teams when he was playing.

     

    i dont know who has the tiebreaker if the NYG win but yeah i cant understand that one either.  Daboll and crew are likely fired so they wouldnt mind winning just as a final FU to the Giants mgmt, but they are also fighting for their jobs next year.  same for some players.  but guys like Nabers certainly would love to get the #1 pick and a top QB in the draft

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    and the giants acting like they want to win like they dont need a qb, I guess they are waiting on another danny dimes to come down the pike. I think some teams want to be mediocre some dont try to win, coach sanders talked about those teams when he was playing.

     

    i dont know who has the tiebreaker if the NYG win but yeah i cant understand that one either.  Daboll and crew are likely fired so they wouldnt mind winning just as a final FU to the Giants mgmt, but they are also fighting for their jobs next year.  same for some players.  but guys like Nabers certainly would love to get the #1 pick and a top QB in the draft

     
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    Players don’t try to lose games you clown… they don’t give a shit about what pick they have…. They are playing for their future and ability to support their family. Posts like these are so damn dumb

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    Players don’t try to lose games you clown… they don’t give a shit about what pick they have…. They are playing for their future and ability to support their family. Posts like these are so damn dumb

     
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    GMs tank, players and coaches dont.

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     Believe me the 2 Buffalo players aren't that good period and not worth the money there are other players better ex. C.Beck qb Georgia nortre dame qb and than my favorite qb Dillon Gabriel Oregon there are far better players than over hyped Deon Sanders he'll never succeed in nfl you'll see they got ran over by a freight train last night BYU 

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     Believe me the 2 Buffalo players aren't that good period and not worth the money there are other players better ex. C.Beck qb Georgia nortre dame qb and than my favorite qb Dillon Gabriel Oregon there are far better players than over hyped Deon Sanders he'll never succeed in nfl you'll see they got ran over by a freight train last night BYU 

     
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    VEGAS DETERMINES WHO WINS

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    Quote Originally Posted by rosswin97: and the giants acting like they want to win like they dont need a qb, I guess they are waiting on another danny dimes to come down the pike. I think some teams want to be mediocre some dont try to win, coach sanders talked about those teams when he was playing.   i dont know who has the tiebreaker if the NYG win but yeah i cant understand that one either.  Daboll and crew are likely fired so they wouldnt mind winning just as a final FU to the Giants mgmt, but they are also fighting for their jobs next year.  same for some players.  but guys like Nabers certainly would love to get the #1 pick and a top QB in the draft
    giants are 2-13 worst record in the league. pats, browns, titans, and raiders have 3 wins each. why giants would want to win game number 3 today is beyond me. something tells me they lose though, I hope so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jefff:

    Quote Originally Posted by rosswin97: and the giants acting like they want to win like they dont need a qb, I guess they are waiting on another danny dimes to come down the pike. I think some teams want to be mediocre some dont try to win, coach sanders talked about those teams when he was playing.   i dont know who has the tiebreaker if the NYG win but yeah i cant understand that one either.  Daboll and crew are likely fired so they wouldnt mind winning just as a final FU to the Giants mgmt, but they are also fighting for their jobs next year.  same for some players.  but guys like Nabers certainly would love to get the #1 pick and a top QB in the draft
    giants are 2-13 worst record in the league. pats, browns, titans, and raiders have 3 wins each. why giants would want to win game number 3 today is beyond me. something tells me they lose though, I hope so.

     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by JustinFields00:

    Players don’t try to lose games you clown… they don’t give a shit about what pick they have…. They are playing for their future and ability to support their family. Posts like these are so damn dumb
    if you took the time to read beyond the thread title and initial post maybe you'd understand, not like it hasnt been done before. tanking is a thing, but you knew that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JustinFields00:

    Players don’t try to lose games you clown… they don’t give a shit about what pick they have…. They are playing for their future and ability to support their family. Posts like these are so damn dumb
    if you took the time to read beyond the thread title and initial post maybe you'd understand, not like it hasnt been done before. tanking is a thing, but you knew that.

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