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    Why are the Saints -1 ?

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    Posted: Nov. 24, 2008 - 9:53 AM ET #26

    Quote Originally Posted by BigUnit:

    Line did initially open up Saints -3.


    -3 +110 you are correct. I thought I saw -2.5. I wish I could go back and get that -3 +110 today....
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigUnit:

    Line did initially open up Saints -3.


    -3 +110 you are correct. I thought I saw -2.5. I wish I could go back and get that -3 +110 today....
     
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    Posted: Nov. 24, 2008 - 9:56 AM ET #27

    I'm not saying reggie Bush isn't a good player, GREAT college player, DECENT in the NFL< but not having a guy who has been more concerned with his juice-dumpster fiancee for the last year really doesnt factor in here and I do hope Mr. Brees shows up tonite and does what he SHOULD do.....365 yds, 3 TDs and a nice little cover for us Saints backers....books are beging for the Greenbay $ and I hope the public keeps hitting this line to a pk, good luck covas peeps, BOL G&G
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    I'm not saying reggie Bush isn't a good player, GREAT college player, DECENT in the NFL< but not having a guy who has been more concerned with his juice-dumpster fiancee for the last year really doesnt factor in here and I do hope Mr. Brees shows up tonite and does what he SHOULD do.....365 yds, 3 TDs and a nice little cover for us Saints backers....books are beging for the Greenbay $ and I hope the public keeps hitting this line to a pk, good luck covas peeps, BOL G&G
     
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    Posted: Nov. 24, 2008 - 10:11 AM ET #28

    Quote Originally Posted by boomslangp:

    I see your angle now (I think). You aren't questioning the Saints, you are questioning the Packers as an underdog. Do you feel that with the public hammering the Pack, maybe they should be favored, but because they're not (yet) you lean towards N.O.????
    Is this screaming TRAP!?


    yeah.  trap.  i was having breakfast at the hard rock this morning and overheard 2 gaming execs talking about the sports book.  they said "how can we boost our income from this weekend's huge payouts."  the other said, "how about a trap!"   "brillant.  let's set packs as favorites, then the "public" will pound them!"  they shook hands and disappeared in the back.  trap is set. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by boomslangp:

    I see your angle now (I think). You aren't questioning the Saints, you are questioning the Packers as an underdog. Do you feel that with the public hammering the Pack, maybe they should be favored, but because they're not (yet) you lean towards N.O.????
    Is this screaming TRAP!?


    yeah.  trap.  i was having breakfast at the hard rock this morning and overheard 2 gaming execs talking about the sports book.  they said "how can we boost our income from this weekend's huge payouts."  the other said, "how about a trap!"   "brillant.  let's set packs as favorites, then the "public" will pound them!"  they shook hands and disappeared in the back.  trap is set. 

     
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    Posted: Nov. 24, 2008 - 10:14 AM ET #29

    GL, GG!  Thinkin' the same way tonight!
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    GL, GG!  Thinkin' the same way tonight!
     
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    Posted: Nov. 24, 2008 - 10:15 AM ET #30

    defense wins games and championships


    GB's D is a force to reckoned with.


    Saints D is swiss cheese (home dome or not)


    Rodgers is highest rated QB on 3rd down (at least he was, not sure if this is still 100% true today). 

    Add a swiss cheese D and GB will control the clock and the game.
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    defense wins games and championships


    GB's D is a force to reckoned with.


    Saints D is swiss cheese (home dome or not)


    Rodgers is highest rated QB on 3rd down (at least he was, not sure if this is still 100% true today). 

    Add a swiss cheese D and GB will control the clock and the game.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 24, 2008 - 10:15 AM ET #31

    Quote Originally Posted by LBCWeasie:

    I'm not saying reggie Bush isn't a good player, GREAT college player, DECENT in the NFL< but not having a guy who has been more concerned with his juice-dumpster fiancee for the last year really doesnt factor in here and I do hope Mr. Brees shows up tonite and does what he SHOULD do.....365 yds, 3 TDs and a nice little cover for us Saints backers....books are beging for the Greenbay $ and I hope the public keeps hitting this line to a pk, good luck covas peeps, BOL G&G


    Thanks LBC. I agree with ya on Brees, and sure hope so.

    Althought that fiancee of his is...

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    Quote Originally Posted by LBCWeasie:

    I'm not saying reggie Bush isn't a good player, GREAT college player, DECENT in the NFL< but not having a guy who has been more concerned with his juice-dumpster fiancee for the last year really doesnt factor in here and I do hope Mr. Brees shows up tonite and does what he SHOULD do.....365 yds, 3 TDs and a nice little cover for us Saints backers....books are beging for the Greenbay $ and I hope the public keeps hitting this line to a pk, good luck covas peeps, BOL G&G


    Thanks LBC. I agree with ya on Brees, and sure hope so.

    Althought that fiancee of his is...

     
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    Posted: Nov. 24, 2008 - 10:17 AM ET #32

    Quote Originally Posted by malibusurfer:



    yeah.  trap.  i was having breakfast at the hard rock this morning and overheard 2 gaming execs talking about the sports book.  they said "how can we boost our income from this weekend's huge payouts."  the other said, "how about a trap!"   "brillant.  let's set packs as favorites, then the "public" will pound them!"  they shook hands and disappeared in the back.  trap is set. 



    Malibu, no need to be a dick. He is contributing by asking questions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by malibusurfer:



    yeah.  trap.  i was having breakfast at the hard rock this morning and overheard 2 gaming execs talking about the sports book.  they said "how can we boost our income from this weekend's huge payouts."  the other said, "how about a trap!"   "brillant.  let's set packs as favorites, then the "public" will pound them!"  they shook hands and disappeared in the back.  trap is set. 



    Malibu, no need to be a dick. He is contributing by asking questions.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 24, 2008 - 10:24 AM ET #33

    Saints playing their first home game in over a month and its a MNF..they already lost one MNF so it wont happen again. Go Saints! if you are unsure about the sides that the over to be safe :D.
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    Saints playing their first home game in over a month and its a MNF..they already lost one MNF so it wont happen again. Go Saints! if you are unsure about the sides that the over to be safe :D.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 24, 2008 - 10:30 AM ET #34

    malibu...  you dont think the oddsmakers try to make the public bet one way by minipulating the line...
    like making the one side seem like a value(see above)??? where you been how long you been betting sports?
     
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    malibu...  you dont think the oddsmakers try to make the public bet one way by minipulating the line...
    like making the one side seem like a value(see above)??? where you been how long you been betting sports?
     
     
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    Posted: Nov. 24, 2008 - 10:32 AM ET #35

    i kinda think it might stay under tonight.... all of a sudden.. to many just think its a givin .. i really think  no and the under is the winning parlay
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    i kinda think it might stay under tonight.... all of a sudden.. to many just think its a givin .. i really think  no and the under is the winning parlay
     
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    Posted: Nov. 24, 2008 - 10:35 AM ET #36

    Quote Originally Posted by golfandgamble:



    Malibu, no need to be a dick. He is contributing by asking questions.


    just a little gambling humor.  i was actually in a facetious way trying to educate the ignorant player.  that's what mr bator likes to say.  theres no such thing as "traps".  from someone who's lived at casino hotels and gambled for decades.  known gaming execs.  vegas has huge, professional consulting firms that employ thousands to come up with simulated game plays like espn does daily - their spreads are based on statistical projections not back room thinking of some paranoid plot to "lure" the gambler.

    all this "trap" talk confuses the issue of capping a team.  sometimes in races like tonight the variance is so small - we're just guessing at best.  i think the over is the play.

    but good calls yesterday g&g!  thanks for your picks!


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    Quote Originally Posted by golfandgamble:



    Malibu, no need to be a dick. He is contributing by asking questions.


    just a little gambling humor.  i was actually in a facetious way trying to educate the ignorant player.  that's what mr bator likes to say.  theres no such thing as "traps".  from someone who's lived at casino hotels and gambled for decades.  known gaming execs.  vegas has huge, professional consulting firms that employ thousands to come up with simulated game plays like espn does daily - their spreads are based on statistical projections not back room thinking of some paranoid plot to "lure" the gambler.

    all this "trap" talk confuses the issue of capping a team.  sometimes in races like tonight the variance is so small - we're just guessing at best.  i think the over is the play.

    but good calls yesterday g&g!  thanks for your picks!


     
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    Posted: Nov. 24, 2008 - 10:36 AM ET #37

    Gotcha Malibu. I hope Boom reads that and understands where you're coming from.

    I like your info their. I hope that most get to read it and understand where you're coming from.

    As for the picks, stay tuned. NFL is a goldmine this season.
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    Gotcha Malibu. I hope Boom reads that and understands where you're coming from.

    I like your info their. I hope that most get to read it and understand where you're coming from.

    As for the picks, stay tuned. NFL is a goldmine this season.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 24, 2008 - 10:41 AM ET #38

    you're damn good!  great call on the pats yesterday.  and the boys.   i was in a dallas sports bar yesterday on vacation and you would have thought they re-elected George Bush by the way cowboys were cleaning up at home.


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    you're damn good!  great call on the pats yesterday.  and the boys.   i was in a dallas sports bar yesterday on vacation and you would have thought they re-elected George Bush by the way cowboys were cleaning up at home.


     
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    Posted: Nov. 24, 2008 - 10:42 AM ET #39

    the pack are anxious as hell for another shot at a noisy rowdy away test...the offense embarrassed themselves at the metrodome a couple of weeks ago, when rodgers was harrassed all day...all week they have been practicing to loud ass crowd noise...if people are banking on the pack not being prepared for this with snap counts and such they are in for a rude awakening.
     
    if the aints beat em it will be cause they are better not cause they are at home.
     
    im really confident GB plays well...well it transalate into a victory? who knows, at the very least they will be right in the game...i got gb teased.
     
     
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    the pack are anxious as hell for another shot at a noisy rowdy away test...the offense embarrassed themselves at the metrodome a couple of weeks ago, when rodgers was harrassed all day...all week they have been practicing to loud ass crowd noise...if people are banking on the pack not being prepared for this with snap counts and such they are in for a rude awakening.
     
    if the aints beat em it will be cause they are better not cause they are at home.
     
    im really confident GB plays well...well it transalate into a victory? who knows, at the very least they will be right in the game...i got gb teased.
     
     
    GL golf
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by malibusurfer:

    you're damn good!  great call on the pats yesterday.  and the boys.   i was in a dallas sports bar yesterday on vacation and you would have thought they re-elected George Bush by the way cowboys were cleaning up at home.




    After that horrendous 1st quarter I thought I was screwed. The Boys came back for me, but made me sweat once again at the end when they recovered the onside.

    That just proved how bad the 49ers are, and I can't wait to absolutely UNLOAD on Buffalo next week at -7...
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    Quote Originally Posted by malibusurfer:

    you're damn good!  great call on the pats yesterday.  and the boys.   i was in a dallas sports bar yesterday on vacation and you would have thought they re-elected George Bush by the way cowboys were cleaning up at home.




    After that horrendous 1st quarter I thought I was screwed. The Boys came back for me, but made me sweat once again at the end when they recovered the onside.

    That just proved how bad the 49ers are, and I can't wait to absolutely UNLOAD on Buffalo next week at -7...
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by PGdad:

    the pack are anxious as hell for another shot at a noisy rowdy away test...the offense embarrassed themselves at the metrodome a couple of weeks ago, when rodgers was harrassed all day...all week they have been practicing to loud ass crowd noise...if people are banking on the pack not being prepared for this with snap counts and such they are in for a rude awakening.
     
    if the aints beat em it will be cause they are better not cause they are at home.
     
    im really confident GB plays well...well it transalate into a victory? who knows, at the very least they will be right in the game...i got gb teased.
     
     
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    I see someone else has NO -1 and GB +7.  I think that is a good play. I like the Saints to win by 3-4, but still think pops you're in good shape with your tease.

    This will in no way be easy for Saints backers. They screwed me last time on MNF, I won't let it happen again...
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    Quote Originally Posted by PGdad:

    the pack are anxious as hell for another shot at a noisy rowdy away test...the offense embarrassed themselves at the metrodome a couple of weeks ago, when rodgers was harrassed all day...all week they have been practicing to loud ass crowd noise...if people are banking on the pack not being prepared for this with snap counts and such they are in for a rude awakening.
     
    if the aints beat em it will be cause they are better not cause they are at home.
     
    im really confident GB plays well...well it transalate into a victory? who knows, at the very least they will be right in the game...i got gb teased.
     
     
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    I see someone else has NO -1 and GB +7.  I think that is a good play. I like the Saints to win by 3-4, but still think pops you're in good shape with your tease.

    This will in no way be easy for Saints backers. They screwed me last time on MNF, I won't let it happen again...
     
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    Posted: Nov. 24, 2008 - 10:48 AM ET #42

    Quote Originally Posted by malibusurfer:



    just a little gambling humor.  i was actually in a facetious way trying to educate the ignorant player.  that's what mr bator likes to say.  theres no such thing as "traps".  from someone who's lived at casino hotels and gambled for decades.  known gaming execs.  vegas has huge, professional consulting firms that employ thousands to come up with simulated game plays like espn does daily - their spreads are based on statistical projections not back room thinking of some paranoid plot to "lure" the gambler.

    all this "trap" talk confuses the issue of capping a team.  sometimes in races like tonight the variance is so small - we're just guessing at best.  i think the over is the play.

    but good calls yesterday g&g!  thanks for your picks!


    My paranoia tells me that Malibu works in the back room of the casino, with all those connections!! LOL!

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    Quote Originally Posted by malibusurfer:



    just a little gambling humor.  i was actually in a facetious way trying to educate the ignorant player.  that's what mr bator likes to say.  theres no such thing as "traps".  from someone who's lived at casino hotels and gambled for decades.  known gaming execs.  vegas has huge, professional consulting firms that employ thousands to come up with simulated game plays like espn does daily - their spreads are based on statistical projections not back room thinking of some paranoid plot to "lure" the gambler.

    all this "trap" talk confuses the issue of capping a team.  sometimes in races like tonight the variance is so small - we're just guessing at best.  i think the over is the play.

    but good calls yesterday g&g!  thanks for your picks!


    My paranoia tells me that Malibu works in the back room of the casino, with all those connections!! LOL!

     
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    Posted: Nov. 24, 2008 - 10:59 AM ET #43

    Is bush out for sure? I heard he would be back.
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    Posted: Nov. 24, 2008 - 11:04 AM ET #44

    Quote Originally Posted by BigUnit:

    Green Bay 31 New Orleans 24

    Although I really value your picks G & G, I gotta go with UNIT on this one, as of right now.  The Saints are not good, period.  They had one good year, and thats because N.O. was devestated and needed a pick me up.  Now that all that Katrina stuff is over, the Saints are back to what they were, mediocre.  They dont run good, Duece is old and beat up, and Brees is all they have and GB is a more complete team than N.O.  I dont know, but it seems GB would be the way to go here.

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    Green Bay 31 New Orleans 24

    Although I really value your picks G & G, I gotta go with UNIT on this one, as of right now.  The Saints are not good, period.  They had one good year, and thats because N.O. was devestated and needed a pick me up.  Now that all that Katrina stuff is over, the Saints are back to what they were, mediocre.  They dont run good, Duece is old and beat up, and Brees is all they have and GB is a more complete team than N.O.  I dont know, but it seems GB would be the way to go here.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 24, 2008 - 11:25 AM ET #45

    This game should'nt be close tonight.  The books have to make the line look fishy so that we play the wrong side.  There are only 2 logical plays for the night.   GREENBAY AND THE OVER, which has hit every Monday Night game this season. GL to all
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    This game should'nt be close tonight.  The books have to make the line look fishy so that we play the wrong side.  There are only 2 logical plays for the night.   GREENBAY AND THE OVER, which has hit every Monday Night game this season. GL to all
     
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    Posted: Nov. 24, 2008 - 11:29 AM ET #46

    Quote Originally Posted by Bluefin:

    Is bush out for sure? I heard he would be back.

     

    --RB Reggie Bush was limited Thursday as he practiced for just the second time since arthroscopic surgery on his left knee Oct. 20, but he expects to play against the Packers.

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    Is bush out for sure? I heard he would be back.

     

    --RB Reggie Bush was limited Thursday as he practiced for just the second time since arthroscopic surgery on his left knee Oct. 20, but he expects to play against the Packers.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 24, 2008 - 11:31 AM ET #47

    G&G I like your thinking.
     
    Let's not forget that GB loves to play man to man on the outside.
     
    Over/under on pass interference calls tonight is 2.5 in favor of New Orleans....
     
    Leaning New Orleans myself.
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    G&G I like your thinking.
     
    Let's not forget that GB loves to play man to man on the outside.
     
    Over/under on pass interference calls tonight is 2.5 in favor of New Orleans....
     
    Leaning New Orleans myself.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 24, 2008 - 12:04 PM ET #48

    The only team the saints have beat with a winning record are the Bucs in week 1. They have a good offense, but its obv. predictable, and thats never good when facing a D thats knows what they're doing. On the other hand GB hasnt really been impressive, and if you think because they beat up CHI last week think again, cause CHI pass D is straight garbage. This is one of those games thats really confusing to think from at 12 pm but once that ball is in play everyone will either love or regret what they played 5 mins in the game. GL either way, I personally am making an O/U play but I just felt like people needed to see this game for what it was and why the line might be set that way.
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    The only team the saints have beat with a winning record are the Bucs in week 1. They have a good offense, but its obv. predictable, and thats never good when facing a D thats knows what they're doing. On the other hand GB hasnt really been impressive, and if you think because they beat up CHI last week think again, cause CHI pass D is straight garbage. This is one of those games thats really confusing to think from at 12 pm but once that ball is in play everyone will either love or regret what they played 5 mins in the game. GL either way, I personally am making an O/U play but I just felt like people needed to see this game for what it was and why the line might be set that way.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 24, 2008 - 12:11 PM ET #49

    Quote Originally Posted by Bluefin:

    Is bush out for sure? I heard he would be back.


    He is back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluefin:

    Is bush out for sure? I heard he would be back.


    He is back.
     
     
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    Posted: Nov. 24, 2008 - 12:27 PM ET #50

    GOLF I see NO +1 now at some books
     
    hmmm....
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    GOLF I see NO +1 now at some books
     
    hmmm....
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