Does anyone know the new rules? Chris Berman just said SF could have won it with a TD on their first possession in OT
I would have deferred but the difference between this rule and the college is, and the NFL the third possession become sudden death. Whereas in college , there is no sudden death
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@Ufo2112
Quote Originally Posted by Ufo2112:
Does anyone know the new rules? Chris Berman just said SF could have won it with a TD on their first possession in OT
I would have deferred but the difference between this rule and the college is, and the NFL the third possession become sudden death. Whereas in college , there is no sudden death
@rosswin97 If it's so right to receive, why does every college team want to go on defense if they win the coin toss in overtime? You need to watch more football.
I would have deferred but the difference between this rule and the college is, in the NFL the third possession becomes sudden death. Whereas in college , there is no sudden death
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Quote Originally Posted by Ufo2112:
@rosswin97 If it's so right to receive, why does every college team want to go on defense if they win the coin toss in overtime? You need to watch more football.
I would have deferred but the difference between this rule and the college is, in the NFL the third possession becomes sudden death. Whereas in college , there is no sudden death
Heres why you defer and go on defence if you score a defensive td the game is Over period or lets say you just cause a turn over you only need a field goal to win it. The other thing is puts all the pressure on them to at least score a field goal bottom line SF coach made the wrong call.
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Heres why you defer and go on defence if you score a defensive td the game is Over period or lets say you just cause a turn over you only need a field goal to win it. The other thing is puts all the pressure on them to at least score a field goal bottom line SF coach made the wrong call.
Absolutely you defer. If you receive, you do not understand football. You always want to know what you need. If KC received, they had a 4th and 1 and would've punted. Since they needed to score to at least tie, they know they have to go for it on 4th down. It has nothing to do with getting the ball 3rd. You don't know what you'll score if you receive the ball first. Scoring a TD and extra point is not a guarantee. If it was, then I'd receive first. I don't know how people don't understand this.
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Absolutely you defer. If you receive, you do not understand football. You always want to know what you need. If KC received, they had a 4th and 1 and would've punted. Since they needed to score to at least tie, they know they have to go for it on 4th down. It has nothing to do with getting the ball 3rd. You don't know what you'll score if you receive the ball first. Scoring a TD and extra point is not a guarantee. If it was, then I'd receive first. I don't know how people don't understand this.
The more I read about this, the more I agree with Reid’s decision to defend first in OT (not that the choice was his to make)
If SF had scored a TD on their opening drive in OT, and KC then also scored a TD, they would have gone for two to try and win the game, knowing SF would get another “walk off” possession. I’d imagine this is how most coaches will play this moving forward.
KC spent multiple weeks discussing the new playoff OT rules starting at the beginning of training camp:
We talked through this for two weeks,” Jones said. “How we was going to give the ball to the opponent; if they scored, we was going for two at the end of the game. We rehearsed it.”
The 49ers did not do the same. Multiple San Francisco players said after the game that they were not aware that the overtime rules are different in the playoffs than they are in the regular season, and strategy discussions over how to handle the overtime period did not occur as a team. Defensive lineman Arik Armstead said he learned the details of the postseason rule when it was shown on the Allegiant Stadium jumbotron during a TV timeout after regulation. Fullback Kyle Juszczyk said he assumed the 49ers asked to receive when they won the toss because that’s what you do in the regular season, when a touchdown wins the game. “I guess that’s not the case. I don’t really know the strategy,” Juszczyk said.
The more I read about this, the more I agree with Reid’s decision to defend first in OT (not that the choice was his to make)
If SF had scored a TD on their opening drive in OT, and KC then also scored a TD, they would have gone for two to try and win the game, knowing SF would get another “walk off” possession. I’d imagine this is how most coaches will play this moving forward.
KC spent multiple weeks discussing the new playoff OT rules starting at the beginning of training camp:
We talked through this for two weeks,” Jones said. “How we was going to give the ball to the opponent; if they scored, we was going for two at the end of the game. We rehearsed it.”
The 49ers did not do the same. Multiple San Francisco players said after the game that they were not aware that the overtime rules are different in the playoffs than they are in the regular season, and strategy discussions over how to handle the overtime period did not occur as a team. Defensive lineman Arik Armstead said he learned the details of the postseason rule when it was shown on the Allegiant Stadium jumbotron during a TV timeout after regulation. Fullback Kyle Juszczyk said he assumed the 49ers asked to receive when they won the toss because that’s what you do in the regular season, when a touchdown wins the game. “I guess that’s not the case. I don’t really know the strategy,” Juszczyk said.
that's a good point too but either it was analytics or bad coaching...go watch college football and i can almost guarantee you all the good to great coaches defer first. Thats including Saban. Only coach I seen take the ball first was Deion but we wont go into his coaching abilities.
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that's a good point too but either it was analytics or bad coaching...go watch college football and i can almost guarantee you all the good to great coaches defer first. Thats including Saban. Only coach I seen take the ball first was Deion but we wont go into his coaching abilities.
Why even giving a choice to choose from here on out when we now know that the winner of the coin toss will make the defer decision 100% of the time now to their advantage?
They should put a prop for that.
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Why even giving a choice to choose from here on out when we now know that the winner of the coin toss will make the defer decision 100% of the time now to their advantage?
It is NOT college where you get equal possessions. After the first two possessions, the NEXT score wins. So if is a three possession OT, the team getting the ball first gets two possessions.
Imagine an MLB extra inning game in which after the tenth inning, the first team that scores wins. You could score in top of 11th and game would end. Everybody would want to bat first.
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Most have this WRONG.
It is NOT college where you get equal possessions. After the first two possessions, the NEXT score wins. So if is a three possession OT, the team getting the ball first gets two possessions.
Imagine an MLB extra inning game in which after the tenth inning, the first team that scores wins. You could score in top of 11th and game would end. Everybody would want to bat first.
Most have this WRONG. It is NOT college where you get equal possessions. After the first two possessions, the NEXT score wins. So if is a three possession OT, the team getting the ball first gets two possessions. Imagine an MLB extra inning game in which after the tenth inning, the first team that scores wins. You could score in top of 11th and game would end. Everybody would want to bat first.
To get the ball first, you have to trust your offense to get a TD. Anything else and you have liability. Not to mention, if you turn the ball over, also a liability.
So best to defer. You stop them on defense n you may win. They get FG n you can win with a TD. If they get a TD, you get a TD n go for 2.
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Quote Originally Posted by Griswold1:
Most have this WRONG. It is NOT college where you get equal possessions. After the first two possessions, the NEXT score wins. So if is a three possession OT, the team getting the ball first gets two possessions. Imagine an MLB extra inning game in which after the tenth inning, the first team that scores wins. You could score in top of 11th and game would end. Everybody would want to bat first.
To get the ball first, you have to trust your offense to get a TD. Anything else and you have liability. Not to mention, if you turn the ball over, also a liability.
So best to defer. You stop them on defense n you may win. They get FG n you can win with a TD. If they get a TD, you get a TD n go for 2.
SF players were not aware of the difference in rules for overtime in regular season versus playoffs while KC team reviewed and discussed the rules every week. I am sure going forward SF will not make that mistake again.
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SF players were not aware of the difference in rules for overtime in regular season versus playoffs while KC team reviewed and discussed the rules every week. I am sure going forward SF will not make that mistake again.
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