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    What one piece of advice do you give to someone new to handicapping/gambling?

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    WISEGUY36
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    Posted: Jul. 16, 2024 - 10:07 PM ET #26

    Take the time to know and understand the intricacies of the sport you wish to

    wager on before you wager. For most sports it's all about possessions and

    what a team and their opponent is likely to do with them during the course of

    a game. In the NFL at team is likely to get 10 - 12 possessions on average.

    If you have the ability to determine what the likely outcome of a matchup will

    be based on those possessions , you have a good chance of success at this.

    Sounds simple , but armed with the right information It's actually not that

    difficult to profit at sports betting. The difficulty for most is learning what

    actually constitutes the " Right Information " to provide the  solution to the

    problem.

     

    Blessings and Good Luck in your Sports Betting journey.   peace_5

     

     

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    Take the time to know and understand the intricacies of the sport you wish to

    wager on before you wager. For most sports it's all about possessions and

    what a team and their opponent is likely to do with them during the course of

    a game. In the NFL at team is likely to get 10 - 12 possessions on average.

    If you have the ability to determine what the likely outcome of a matchup will

    be based on those possessions , you have a good chance of success at this.

    Sounds simple , but armed with the right information It's actually not that

    difficult to profit at sports betting. The difficulty for most is learning what

    actually constitutes the " Right Information " to provide the  solution to the

    problem.

     

    Blessings and Good Luck in your Sports Betting journey.   peace_5

     

     

     
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    Posted: Jul. 16, 2024 - 10:14 PM ET #27

    Quote Originally Posted by WISEGUY36:

    Take the time to know and understand the intricacies of the sport you wish to wager on before you wager. For most sports it's all about possessions and what a team and their opponent is likely to do with them during the course of a game. In the NFL at team is likely to get 10 - 12 possessions on average. If you have the ability to determine what the likely outcome of a matchup will be based on those possessions , you have a good chance of success at this. Sounds simple , but armed with the right information It's actually not that difficult to profit at sports betting. The difficulty for most is learning what actually constitutes the " Right Information " to provide the  solution to the problem. Blessings and Good Luck in your Sports Betting journey.

     

    Good post bro. Being able to identify patterns can help get the "right information" i use historical situational data to search for weaknesses in the line.

    SDQL protocol and killersports data base has been a HUGE help in this approach...DOGS and UNDERS

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    Quote Originally Posted by WISEGUY36:

    Take the time to know and understand the intricacies of the sport you wish to wager on before you wager. For most sports it's all about possessions and what a team and their opponent is likely to do with them during the course of a game. In the NFL at team is likely to get 10 - 12 possessions on average. If you have the ability to determine what the likely outcome of a matchup will be based on those possessions , you have a good chance of success at this. Sounds simple , but armed with the right information It's actually not that difficult to profit at sports betting. The difficulty for most is learning what actually constitutes the " Right Information " to provide the  solution to the problem. Blessings and Good Luck in your Sports Betting journey.

     

    Good post bro. Being able to identify patterns can help get the "right information" i use historical situational data to search for weaknesses in the line.

    SDQL protocol and killersports data base has been a HUGE help in this approach...DOGS and UNDERS

     
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    Posted: Jul. 16, 2024 - 10:37 PM ET #28

    Quote Originally Posted by jowchoo:

    Quote Originally Posted by WISEGUY36: Take the time to know and understand the intricacies of the sport you wish to wager on before you wager. For most sports it's all about possessions and what a team and their opponent is likely to do with them during the course of a game. In the NFL at team is likely to get 10 - 12 possessions on average. If you have the ability to determine what the likely outcome of a matchup will be based on those possessions , you have a good chance of success at this. Sounds simple , but armed with the right information It's actually not that difficult to profit at sports betting. The difficulty for most is learning what actually constitutes the " Right Information " to provide the  solution to the problem. Blessings and Good Luck in your Sports Betting journey.  

     

    Good post bro. Being able to identify patterns can help get the "right information" i use historical situational data to search for weaknesses in the line. SDQL protocol and killersports data base has been a HUGE help in this approach...DOGS and UNDERS

     

    Thanks bud. I personally do not utilize SQDL , or sites like Killer Sports to

    access data. I applaud those who do , as data in any form is our best means

    of success at this. After doing this for over 40 years , I've tried to keep my

    methods as simple as possible relative to the problem , Fact is Capping

    CFB these days as well as NFL requires a lot more time than it used to be

    successful at this.

     

    Blessings and Good Luck this season.   peace_5

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    Quote Originally Posted by jowchoo:

    Quote Originally Posted by WISEGUY36: Take the time to know and understand the intricacies of the sport you wish to wager on before you wager. For most sports it's all about possessions and what a team and their opponent is likely to do with them during the course of a game. In the NFL at team is likely to get 10 - 12 possessions on average. If you have the ability to determine what the likely outcome of a matchup will be based on those possessions , you have a good chance of success at this. Sounds simple , but armed with the right information It's actually not that difficult to profit at sports betting. The difficulty for most is learning what actually constitutes the " Right Information " to provide the  solution to the problem. Blessings and Good Luck in your Sports Betting journey.  

     

    Good post bro. Being able to identify patterns can help get the "right information" i use historical situational data to search for weaknesses in the line. SDQL protocol and killersports data base has been a HUGE help in this approach...DOGS and UNDERS

     

    Thanks bud. I personally do not utilize SQDL , or sites like Killer Sports to

    access data. I applaud those who do , as data in any form is our best means

    of success at this. After doing this for over 40 years , I've tried to keep my

    methods as simple as possible relative to the problem , Fact is Capping

    CFB these days as well as NFL requires a lot more time than it used to be

    successful at this.

     

    Blessings and Good Luck this season.   peace_5

     
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    Posted: Jul. 17, 2024 - 5:33 PM ET #29

    Quote Originally Posted by jowchoo:

    Quote Originally Posted by DogbiteWilliams: Covers member Indigo999 is one of the top handicappers on this website.  He has mentioned that 95-96% of sports bettors lose in the long run, so you should not expect to be a winner, especially in your first year of sports betting.  Wager only what you can easily afford to lose.  I am a recreational bettor who usually bets $7 units, so I never have to sweat the results.  I also know that if I actually won $1,000 it wouldn't change my life one iota. I have read articles and listened to professional sports bettors on the radio and TV.  Most operate with a 40-unit bankroll which allows for inevitable losing streaks while avoiding the need to replenish their funds.  They also strongly recommend limiting the risk to 10% (4 units) on any given game or 25% (10 units) on any given day (or week of football). If you are a college basketball fan who may have 20 strong opinions on any given Saturday, you should probably operate with an 80-100 unit bankroll. Good luck and definitely do not chase on losing streaks.   Very good info DBW. I would add that looking to the unpopular side of a wager is +EV over time.

    If one is gonna act like a book

    Then you have to actually bet the same.

    (In simplest terms) A book takes all bets from everyone. With this train of thought you would have to go total contrarian on all bets. One can't pick and choose public sides you like or don't like. A lot of cappers try this "fading" and it's always a losing prop. 

    Just make it a straight line. Become a book. Take bets without prejudice. 

    "Got 'em right where I want 'em, surrounded from the inside"
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    Quote Originally Posted by jowchoo:

    Quote Originally Posted by DogbiteWilliams: Covers member Indigo999 is one of the top handicappers on this website.  He has mentioned that 95-96% of sports bettors lose in the long run, so you should not expect to be a winner, especially in your first year of sports betting.  Wager only what you can easily afford to lose.  I am a recreational bettor who usually bets $7 units, so I never have to sweat the results.  I also know that if I actually won $1,000 it wouldn't change my life one iota. I have read articles and listened to professional sports bettors on the radio and TV.  Most operate with a 40-unit bankroll which allows for inevitable losing streaks while avoiding the need to replenish their funds.  They also strongly recommend limiting the risk to 10% (4 units) on any given game or 25% (10 units) on any given day (or week of football). If you are a college basketball fan who may have 20 strong opinions on any given Saturday, you should probably operate with an 80-100 unit bankroll. Good luck and definitely do not chase on losing streaks.   Very good info DBW. I would add that looking to the unpopular side of a wager is +EV over time.

    If one is gonna act like a book

    Then you have to actually bet the same.

    (In simplest terms) A book takes all bets from everyone. With this train of thought you would have to go total contrarian on all bets. One can't pick and choose public sides you like or don't like. A lot of cappers try this "fading" and it's always a losing prop. 

    Just make it a straight line. Become a book. Take bets without prejudice. 

     
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    Posted: Jul. 17, 2024 - 9:04 PM ET #30

    If you don’t know how to cap,then star by being a contrarian bettor. If you are succesfull you will get limited. It will be a 10 to 15 year process of mostly loosing, but once you find a system with an edge you will be able to recoup your losses and start making real money. Make it a hobby don’t get down when ypopo loose and when you win dont get to excited.money management will take the longest to master. And if its too good to be true , it usually is.

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    If you don’t know how to cap,then star by being a contrarian bettor. If you are succesfull you will get limited. It will be a 10 to 15 year process of mostly loosing, but once you find a system with an edge you will be able to recoup your losses and start making real money. Make it a hobby don’t get down when ypopo loose and when you win dont get to excited.money management will take the longest to master. And if its too good to be true , it usually is.

     
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    Posted: Jul. 19, 2024 - 8:33 AM ET #31

    Just make it a hard rule: NEVER bet against a line move. 

    i.e  team is -2.5 every day leading up to game day when line drops to -2 or 1.5.   You wanted to bet them- DONT!!

    TEAM is -2.5 and close to Game time line goes to -3.....bet em!

     

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    Just make it a hard rule: NEVER bet against a line move. 

    i.e  team is -2.5 every day leading up to game day when line drops to -2 or 1.5.   You wanted to bet them- DONT!!

    TEAM is -2.5 and close to Game time line goes to -3.....bet em!

     

     
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    Posted: Jul. 19, 2024 - 8:36 AM ET #32

    Quote Originally Posted by MoPinkie:

    Just make it a hard rule: NEVER bet against a line move.  i.e  team is -2.5 every day leading up to game day when line drops to -2 or 1.5.   You wanted to bet them- DONT!! TEAM is -2.5 and close to Game time line goes to -3.....bet em!

    Just hope you are not getting in the way of a Billy Walters head fake.....lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by MoPinkie:

    Just make it a hard rule: NEVER bet against a line move.  i.e  team is -2.5 every day leading up to game day when line drops to -2 or 1.5.   You wanted to bet them- DONT!! TEAM is -2.5 and close to Game time line goes to -3.....bet em!

    Just hope you are not getting in the way of a Billy Walters head fake.....lol

     
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    Posted: Aug. 1, 2024 - 6:20 PM ET #33

    Good luck. You'll probably need it

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    Good luck. You'll probably need it

     
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    Posted: Aug. 1, 2024 - 7:53 PM ET #34

    Don't bet. 

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    Don't bet. 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wizz_KIDD35:

    Discipline, Money Management..Key ..!!    ** WATCH THAT BANKROLL CAREFULLY,CLOSELY **
    best practices ever in finally doing this and noticing a huge difference and best of all not complaining everyday

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wizz_KIDD35:

    Discipline, Money Management..Key ..!!    ** WATCH THAT BANKROLL CAREFULLY,CLOSELY **
    best practices ever in finally doing this and noticing a huge difference and best of all not complaining everyday

     
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    Posted: Aug. 3, 2024 - 3:59 PM ET #36

    Quote Originally Posted by jowchoo:

    Just hope you are not getting in the way of a Billy Walters head fake.....lol

    Who is really doing this head faking. Books will go on podcasts and say that they always try to be on the sharp side...but I suspect that sometimes the sharp action tells the book -2.5 should be +2.5, and they move to public favorite -3 anyways.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jowchoo:

    Just hope you are not getting in the way of a Billy Walters head fake.....lol

    Who is really doing this head faking. Books will go on podcasts and say that they always try to be on the sharp side...but I suspect that sometimes the sharp action tells the book -2.5 should be +2.5, and they move to public favorite -3 anyways.

     
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    1. money management. try to bet a flat rate on every pick when starting out. of course there will be other games you wanna put more on than the other but genuinely stay at a flat bet rate.

    2. NEVER go "all in-"

    3. dont bet sports or events you are not well versed on. so dont bet NFL or college football if you dont know the sport & personnel up and down.

    4. learn from your losses and why your bet lost

    5. dont bet while on tilt. theres always tomorrow

    6. dont get too high off the Wins or losses. try to stay in the middle and learn from both sides of the spectrum. understand why your pick was good or why it was bad

    7. dont bet alot of games in 1 day. limit yourself to 3-5 bets per day or whatever you feel is comfortable. there should never be a day where you are firing 10-20 in 1 day. discipline is key.

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    1. money management. try to bet a flat rate on every pick when starting out. of course there will be other games you wanna put more on than the other but genuinely stay at a flat bet rate.

    2. NEVER go "all in-"

    3. dont bet sports or events you are not well versed on. so dont bet NFL or college football if you dont know the sport & personnel up and down.

    4. learn from your losses and why your bet lost

    5. dont bet while on tilt. theres always tomorrow

    6. dont get too high off the Wins or losses. try to stay in the middle and learn from both sides of the spectrum. understand why your pick was good or why it was bad

    7. dont bet alot of games in 1 day. limit yourself to 3-5 bets per day or whatever you feel is comfortable. there should never be a day where you are firing 10-20 in 1 day. discipline is key.

     
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     NFL.. just pick the winneran_light.. U like the dog take the ML.. u like the fave lay the points.. 

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     NFL.. just pick the winneran_light.. U like the dog take the ML.. u like the fave lay the points.. 

     
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    Posted: Aug. 7, 2024 - 11:22 AM ET #39

    Bankroll management, don't divert from the plan you draw up from paper

    Don't get emotional after tough losses

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    Bankroll management, don't divert from the plan you draw up from paper

    Don't get emotional after tough losses

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by jowchoo:

    Quote Originally Posted by MoPinkie: Just make it a hard rule: NEVER bet against a line move.  i.e  team is -2.5 every day leading up to game day when line drops to -2 or 1.5.   You wanted to bet them- DONT!! TEAM is -2.5 and close to Game time line goes to -3.....bet em! Just hope you are not getting in the way of a Billy Walters head fake.....lol

     

    If you know your WP on a bet at the price that it is offered. It really doesn't

    matter what Billy , the Public , or the Sharps are doing with their money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jowchoo:

    Quote Originally Posted by MoPinkie: Just make it a hard rule: NEVER bet against a line move.  i.e  team is -2.5 every day leading up to game day when line drops to -2 or 1.5.   You wanted to bet them- DONT!! TEAM is -2.5 and close to Game time line goes to -3.....bet em! Just hope you are not getting in the way of a Billy Walters head fake.....lol

     

    If you know your WP on a bet at the price that it is offered. It really doesn't

    matter what Billy , the Public , or the Sharps are doing with their money.

     
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    1.  Learn the value of key numbers in the NFL

    2.  Understand that the "line" is the combination of a spread and a price.  It is not just a spread.  It is how much you are paying for that spread.  Those two things are linked and cannot be separated.

    3.  Learn the value of derivative pricing on any spread in the NFL.  For a given game, is it better to lay -3 -112 or -2.5 -124 or -3.5 +106?

    D:  All of the above.  Winning is only determined by understanding price.  It is the only way.  You will not convert from being a loser to a winner through time spent on handicapping.  Putting energy in to handicapping at the cost of the things that will actually make you profitable is a fatal flaw.

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    1.  Learn the value of key numbers in the NFL

    2.  Understand that the "line" is the combination of a spread and a price.  It is not just a spread.  It is how much you are paying for that spread.  Those two things are linked and cannot be separated.

    3.  Learn the value of derivative pricing on any spread in the NFL.  For a given game, is it better to lay -3 -112 or -2.5 -124 or -3.5 +106?

    D:  All of the above.  Winning is only determined by understanding price.  It is the only way.  You will not convert from being a loser to a winner through time spent on handicapping.  Putting energy in to handicapping at the cost of the things that will actually make you profitable is a fatal flaw.

     
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    Thanks to all of those who posted ONE piece of advice.

    Self-reliance is more important than artificial intelligence.
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    Thanks to all of those who posted ONE piece of advice.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by C-70Blues:

    Thanks to all of those who posted ONE piece of advice.

    If I had one piece of advice....   You don't have what it takes.

    peace_5

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    Quote Originally Posted by C-70Blues:

    Thanks to all of those who posted ONE piece of advice.

    If I had one piece of advice....   You don't have what it takes.

    peace_5

     
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     I have lost almost every year and still did very well in retirement investing because I kept my loses at like $5–10K a year.. it’s entertaining as hell .. and I have made $5000 in a private Fantasy League every 4 years or so.. I just try to learn each year and follow sharp people here..

    BIG aADVISE: Bet the teams people are running away from after ugly losses and look for rest advantages 

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     I have lost almost every year and still did very well in retirement investing because I kept my loses at like $5–10K a year.. it’s entertaining as hell .. and I have made $5000 in a private Fantasy League every 4 years or so.. I just try to learn each year and follow sharp people here..

    BIG aADVISE: Bet the teams people are running away from after ugly losses and look for rest advantages 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoyasaxa:

    @cd329  I have lost almost every year and still did very well in retirement investing because I kept my loses at like $5–10K a year.. it’s entertaining as hell .. and I have made $5000 in a private Fantasy League every 4 years or so.. I just try to learn each year and follow sharp people here.. BIG aADVISE: Bet the teams people are running away from after ugly losses and look for rest advantages

    Contrarian selections almost always have line value...fade the public and bankroll management= a chance at profitability!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoyasaxa:

    @cd329  I have lost almost every year and still did very well in retirement investing because I kept my loses at like $5–10K a year.. it’s entertaining as hell .. and I have made $5000 in a private Fantasy League every 4 years or so.. I just try to learn each year and follow sharp people here.. BIG aADVISE: Bet the teams people are running away from after ugly losses and look for rest advantages

    Contrarian selections almost always have line value...fade the public and bankroll management= a chance at profitability!!

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    Quote Originally Posted by C-70Blues: Thanks to all of those who posted ONE piece of advice. If I had one piece of advice....   You don't have what it takes.

    Me personally or everyone here on the forum?

    Self-reliance is more important than artificial intelligence.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    Quote Originally Posted by C-70Blues: Thanks to all of those who posted ONE piece of advice. If I had one piece of advice....   You don't have what it takes.

    Me personally or everyone here on the forum?

     
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     Definitely you personally, bozo. You get priceless info shared by well respected cappers here and choose to take time for a snide comment vs. sharing a simple thanks. Good luck fishy. Definitely take the bankroll advice if nothing else, because if I can deduce anything from your replies so far, you’re dead money walking. Good luck with your 6 leg parlays this season!

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     Definitely you personally, bozo. You get priceless info shared by well respected cappers here and choose to take time for a snide comment vs. sharing a simple thanks. Good luck fishy. Definitely take the bankroll advice if nothing else, because if I can deduce anything from your replies so far, you’re dead money walking. Good luck with your 6 leg parlays this season!

     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by unplucked_gem:

    "You don't have what it takes." How much you going to leave on the table this year bruv?

    No clue what you are asking, bruv.

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    Quote Originally Posted by unplucked_gem:

    "You don't have what it takes." How much you going to leave on the table this year bruv?

    No clue what you are asking, bruv.

    peace_5

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