The greatest regular season QB ever, Payton

Question

So our friend Skip Bayless calls Patyon Manning...

... and so he remains, now 9-11 all time in the playoffs.

Was he horrible? Are we pinning this loss wholly on him?

No, of course not.

But after much hullaballoo and chest-thumping by Bronco fans, the fact remains that Payton Manning has a talent for putting up huge stats, going 12-4 or 13-3...

and losing early in the playoffs.

At mideseason, we wrote a blog item speculating that it looked like the Colts made a good move in letting Manning go. We took a lot of flack for that.

Now, despite an impressive run from October to December, the Broncos are going home.

We have no apologies, and, indeed, stand willing to accept them.

gfoss59 · Answer

So our friend Skip Bayless calls Patyon Manning...

... and so he remains, now 9-11 all time in the playoffs.

Was he horrible? Are we pinning this loss wholly on him?

No, of course not.

But after much hullaballoo and chest-thumping by Bronco fans, the fact remains that Payton Manning has a talent for putting up huge stats, going 12-4 or 13-3...

and losing early in the playoffs.

At mideseason, we wrote a blog item speculating that it looked like the Colts made a good move in letting Manning go. We took a lot of flack for that.

Now, despite an impressive run from October to December, the Broncos are going home.

We have no apologies, and, indeed, stand willing to accept them.

badlands · Answer

history (fair or not) remembers what you did in the playoffs. even dan marino always has a "but" when describing him....1 ring for peyton and 8  1 and done&#x27;s.....that stigma will never leave.

gfoss59 · Answer

I&#x27;ve never liked Manning -- too much whining, imho -- but I&#x27;ve respected his work ethic for a long time.But you are what your record says you are.  He&#x27;s 9-11 all time, and I hardly think we can blame this season on a weak o line or a bad defense.This is the same defense that got lots of credit for their wins last year, the same running game.  At the end of the day, the Broncos are where they were a year ago...except they have an aging veteran QB who evidently doesn&#x27;t have the clutch gene.

badlands · Answer

as a pats  homer and brady homer blah blah..manning is probably the best regular season qb ive ever seen. at least before the injury but even this year the throws that guy makes are just insane.  its really incredible how he hasnt had post season succuess. im sure if we went and looked back at all the 1 and done s there would be a lot of bad luck..ie yesterday when a defense just needs to garbage itself...but still.  its pretty incredible someone that good could have that little success in the postseason.

SteelCash · Answer

When I was laid off a few years back I looked in depth at the performances by Manning in the postseason throughout his career. He has failed miserably in the postseason.

Some time when you have a minute, look at his LAST game played every year for those years that he played in the postseason. His stats are horrible for the most part. He threw a pic in OT that led to the Ravens' winning FG. Again, you can't pin the loss on him... it's a team sport. But he continues to fail in the postseason. In his one SB run, he threw 3 TD's and 7 INT's in the entire postseason. He's a great player, but he chokes when the chips are on the line.

gfoss59 · Answer

I do think there&#x27;s such a thing as "the clutch gene." Hard to explain, hard to define.  Starr, Montana, Brady.....  they just had it.Payton Manning, not so much.

badlands · Answer

yup...reg season there is always a next week..you re free rollin so to speak if u play poker..playoffs...you re all in.

yourdaddyspice · Answer

Tebow is better QB so far for Denver than ManningTebow got them to playoffs and beat Steelers in OT.....&amp; this coming from a guy who thinks Tebow can&#x27;t throw for crap

gfoss59 · Answer

Phah -- good point.

tothemoney · Answer

His last two playoff losses he did what he needed to do to win the games. This last game he drove them down and put a touchdown lead on the board, then forced Ravens to use all 3 timouts, unders 45 seconds to go 70 yards. The game is over defense go out there and protect the endzone. Defense blows it gives all momentum back to Baltimore, Denver goes from the high of winning to the low of WTF, against the Ravens with a whole new life.

2010 playoffs vs Jets He drives the Colts down for the go ahead score, the kick the ball off Cromartie takes it 65 yards and the Jets kick winning FG with no time left, I can't call that a choke job by Manning

Sanchize5Ever · Answer

tothemoney get out of our circle bro... fapfapfap pAyton sucks fapfapfap

MYSTICRICH · Answer

Was that Manning on the field playing safety with 30 sec left ?

theclaw · Answer

The defense did play very poor, gave-up a 116.2 QB Passer rating to Flacco, which might have been the best of any QB l.ast weekend.

Flacco ave 9.3 yds per pass including sacks. That's piss poor defense.

Manning didn't play all that well which certainly did not help the Broncos.

QBPR for manning was only 88.3, and his ave per pass only 5.9 which is fairly poor.

His 2 int's were a killer but 1 may not have been his fault I missed that play.

I agree it's a team game and the QB probally gets to much credit and blame but Manning seems to have an uncanny knack for losing in the playoffs.

It's possible that high expectations hurt players, puts pressure on them and motives other players to want to beat them with no pressure because they are expecting to get picked apart by Manning.

I don't think there are many players who've had as high of expectations put on them as Manning has.

SilenceAll · Answer

No,but it was Manning ith the ball 3 times in overtime with a chance to win the game and once again as usual with him in the playoffs,he didn&#x27;t get the job done. Not only did he not get the job done,he threw an inexcusable pick to set the Ravens up. Terrible decision to throw across your body to the middle of the field. That is a rookie mistake,not a hall of famer mistake. Manning is a top qb of all time,but is the biggest choke artist in the sport of all time. Not even debatable.

MYSTICRICH · Answer

it was obvious that manning couldn&#x27;t throw the ball in the second half at all  ,   was it was a hit or just the cold with his nerve damage , he didn&#x27;t stretch the field once in the whole game , something was obviously wrong , he&#x27;s not the kind to come out and make excuses , it was too bad for him that the conditions were so extreme with the .weather  it really hurt him .not too good  on that pick , but the game should have been already over,  he made some nice plays in the first half , but not being able to throw the ball more than 10 to 15 yd&#x27;s really hurt .and made things easy for Ravens defense..

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