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    Swirv - 2012 Future player props - 2 year record 282-189 +72.39 units

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    Posted: Jul. 27, 2012 - 9:18 PM ET #1

    I've posted and documented this record on another site for the past two years.  If anyone would like some validation I would gladly provide it.  My main bet is props as I turn my fantasy football knowledge into plays.  As it sucks giving up 15% juice on props I have had success the past two years,

    I think with my success the last two years I want to give more folks to opportunity to look at the plays I make.  I understand props are not as popular as its hard to find the same line as I use if you dont have the same book.

    Anyways I will be posting my plays here this year also, and for the first time I am making some future plays on sportsbook.com


    A couple notes for new folks looking at the picks or others who have followed in the past.

    I'm going to be using sportsbook and 5dimes this year to try to get some better lines on my plays. I'm trying to have my programming buddy write something up where he can basically shop the lines for me automatically and figure out if one of the two sites are giving better odds. In the past I have only used sportsbook.com

    As far as these futures these are right up my ally. Because of Fantasy Football I do my own projections for each and every NFL team. This takes me many many many hours of work, but I calculate each and every pass, rush and reception per player. This makes these bets fairly easy for me as I use my projections and find the biggest difference possible to make these bets. I would like to be able to share all the stats for others to use for FF or for these bets and and trying to get my programming buddy to be able to post all of this on a website or blog. It has team by team stats along with customizable scoring for anyone who wants to use it as FF.

    Hopefully we can get this website up by the beginning of August, but its on him since I have most of my early projections done.

    There should be some more, as I have about 12 teams left to still project and I will post the plays as I get my stats done.

    A couple notes on these bets.
    1 - Obviously it's tough because these basically tie up your funds for about 5 month
    2 - Injuries! I really don't try to predict injuries when doing my stats on a per player basis but there are some guys who have historically never or rarely played all 16 games. IE Mike Vick, so there are a few guys who I will only poroject 14 or 15 games, but the majority of guys I have playing all 16 games. However we could have the lock of the century and if a guy goes down for a week or two then you are going to lose the bet.
    3 - Week 17 resting players. Hopefully this doesn't come into play too much but the final risk if a team locks up a playoff spot early and rests their guys in week 17.
     
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    I've posted and documented this record on another site for the past two years.  If anyone would like some validation I would gladly provide it.  My main bet is props as I turn my fantasy football knowledge into plays.  As it sucks giving up 15% juice on props I have had success the past two years,

    I think with my success the last two years I want to give more folks to opportunity to look at the plays I make.  I understand props are not as popular as its hard to find the same line as I use if you dont have the same book.

    Anyways I will be posting my plays here this year also, and for the first time I am making some future plays on sportsbook.com


    A couple notes for new folks looking at the picks or others who have followed in the past.

    I'm going to be using sportsbook and 5dimes this year to try to get some better lines on my plays. I'm trying to have my programming buddy write something up where he can basically shop the lines for me automatically and figure out if one of the two sites are giving better odds. In the past I have only used sportsbook.com

    As far as these futures these are right up my ally. Because of Fantasy Football I do my own projections for each and every NFL team. This takes me many many many hours of work, but I calculate each and every pass, rush and reception per player. This makes these bets fairly easy for me as I use my projections and find the biggest difference possible to make these bets. I would like to be able to share all the stats for others to use for FF or for these bets and and trying to get my programming buddy to be able to post all of this on a website or blog. It has team by team stats along with customizable scoring for anyone who wants to use it as FF.

    Hopefully we can get this website up by the beginning of August, but its on him since I have most of my early projections done.

    There should be some more, as I have about 12 teams left to still project and I will post the plays as I get my stats done.

    A couple notes on these bets.
    1 - Obviously it's tough because these basically tie up your funds for about 5 month
    2 - Injuries! I really don't try to predict injuries when doing my stats on a per player basis but there are some guys who have historically never or rarely played all 16 games. IE Mike Vick, so there are a few guys who I will only poroject 14 or 15 games, but the majority of guys I have playing all 16 games. However we could have the lock of the century and if a guy goes down for a week or two then you are going to lose the bet.
    3 - Week 17 resting players. Hopefully this doesn't come into play too much but the final risk if a team locks up a playoff spot early and rests their guys in week 17.
     
     
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    Posted: Jul. 27, 2012 - 9:20 PM ET #2

    All plays are for 1 unit unless noted.. 

    Also my highest unit is maybe 4 or 5.  I'm not one of those guys who posts 10-20 unit plays.  I stay consistent with 90% of my plays either 1 or 2 units.

    Matt Ryan +99.5 vs Tony Romo total passing yards

    My projections
    Ryan - 4488
    Romo - 4296

    Delta 192
    Delta with yards 291.5 in Ryans favor - 1.5 units


    Jay Cutler +150.5 vs Mike Vick total passing yards

    My projections
    Cutler 3822
    Vick (15 games) 3799

    Delta 23
    Delta with yards 173.5 in Cutlers favor

    Aaron Rodgers +1.5 vs Brees total TD's

    My projections
    Rodgers 42
    Brees 36

    Delta 6
    Delta with points 7.5 in Rodgers favor -1.5 units

    Rodgers +.5 vs Brady total TD's

    My projections
    Rodgers 42
    Brady 36

    Delta 6
    Delta with points +6.5 in Rodgers favor

    Eli Manning +1.5 vs. Tony Romo total TD's

    My projections
    Eli 31
    Romo 27

    Delta 4
    Delta with points 5.5 in Eli's favor

    Mat Ryan +1.5 vs Tony Romo passing TD's

    My projections
    Ryan 33
    Romo 27

    Delta 6
    Delta with points 7.5 in Ryan's favor

    Ray Rice -100.5 vs Michael Turner total rushing yards

    My projections
    Rice 1340
    Turner 1125

    Delta 215
    Delta with yards 114.5 in Rice's favor 1.5 units

    Arian Foster -300.5 vs Frank Gore total rushing yards

    My projections
    Foster 1490
    Gore 905

    Delta 585
    Delta with points 284.5 in Foster's favor 2 units

    Stephen Jackson -100.5 vs Frank Gore total rushing yards

    My projections
    Jackson 1155
    Gore 905

    Delta 250
    Delta with points 149.5 in Jackson's favor

    Brandon Marshall +30.5 vs Dwayne Bowe total receiving

    My projections
    Marshall 1175
    Bowe 985

    Delta 190
    Delta with yards 220.5 in favor of Marshall

    Jimmy Graham +50.5 vs Rob Gronkowski total receiving

    My projections
    Graham 1310
    Gronk 1140

    Delta 170
    Delta with points 220.5 in favor of Graham -1.5 units

    Julio Jones +1.5 vs. Mike Wallace total touchdowns

    My Projections
    Jones 10
    Wallace 8

    Delta 2
    Delta with points 3.5 in favor of Jones
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    All plays are for 1 unit unless noted.. 

    Also my highest unit is maybe 4 or 5.  I'm not one of those guys who posts 10-20 unit plays.  I stay consistent with 90% of my plays either 1 or 2 units.

    Matt Ryan +99.5 vs Tony Romo total passing yards

    My projections
    Ryan - 4488
    Romo - 4296

    Delta 192
    Delta with yards 291.5 in Ryans favor - 1.5 units


    Jay Cutler +150.5 vs Mike Vick total passing yards

    My projections
    Cutler 3822
    Vick (15 games) 3799

    Delta 23
    Delta with yards 173.5 in Cutlers favor

    Aaron Rodgers +1.5 vs Brees total TD's

    My projections
    Rodgers 42
    Brees 36

    Delta 6
    Delta with points 7.5 in Rodgers favor -1.5 units

    Rodgers +.5 vs Brady total TD's

    My projections
    Rodgers 42
    Brady 36

    Delta 6
    Delta with points +6.5 in Rodgers favor

    Eli Manning +1.5 vs. Tony Romo total TD's

    My projections
    Eli 31
    Romo 27

    Delta 4
    Delta with points 5.5 in Eli's favor

    Mat Ryan +1.5 vs Tony Romo passing TD's

    My projections
    Ryan 33
    Romo 27

    Delta 6
    Delta with points 7.5 in Ryan's favor

    Ray Rice -100.5 vs Michael Turner total rushing yards

    My projections
    Rice 1340
    Turner 1125

    Delta 215
    Delta with yards 114.5 in Rice's favor 1.5 units

    Arian Foster -300.5 vs Frank Gore total rushing yards

    My projections
    Foster 1490
    Gore 905

    Delta 585
    Delta with points 284.5 in Foster's favor 2 units

    Stephen Jackson -100.5 vs Frank Gore total rushing yards

    My projections
    Jackson 1155
    Gore 905

    Delta 250
    Delta with points 149.5 in Jackson's favor

    Brandon Marshall +30.5 vs Dwayne Bowe total receiving

    My projections
    Marshall 1175
    Bowe 985

    Delta 190
    Delta with yards 220.5 in favor of Marshall

    Jimmy Graham +50.5 vs Rob Gronkowski total receiving

    My projections
    Graham 1310
    Gronk 1140

    Delta 170
    Delta with points 220.5 in favor of Graham -1.5 units

    Julio Jones +1.5 vs. Mike Wallace total touchdowns

    My Projections
    Jones 10
    Wallace 8

    Delta 2
    Delta with points 3.5 in favor of Jones
     
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    Posted: Aug. 2, 2012 - 11:18 PM ET #3

    Projections are just about done, and I think I have a handful of more bets, but will look everything over.

    Site isnt up and running just yet, but will be soon.  If anyone wants the FF projections in excel please PM me or give me your email address.
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    Projections are just about done, and I think I have a handful of more bets, but will look everything over.

    Site isnt up and running just yet, but will be soon.  If anyone wants the FF projections in excel please PM me or give me your email address.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 4, 2012 - 2:43 PM ET #4

    Projections are done, last one I see that fits for now is

    Rodgers -5.5 touchdown passes vs Peyton Manning

    My projections

    Rodgers 42
    Manning 27

    Delta 15
    Delta with points 9.5 in Rodgers favor 1.5 units
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    Projections are done, last one I see that fits for now is

    Rodgers -5.5 touchdown passes vs Peyton Manning

    My projections

    Rodgers 42
    Manning 27

    Delta 15
    Delta with points 9.5 in Rodgers favor 1.5 units
     
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    Posted: Aug. 10, 2012 - 7:11 PM ET #5

    Last nights Falcons game confirmed the coach speak for me on the Falcons that they are going to pass a lot more this year.

    I'm throwing down another unit on each of the Matt Ryan bets vs Romo

    Ryan +1.5 vs Romo in TD's
    Ryan +99.5 vs Romo in passing yards


    Also the site is up but not really functional yet, the guy doing it for me is traveling so hasn't had a lot of time.

    site is www.ffslickpicks.com

    If you want the stats in the mean time feel free to PM your email and I can get them to you.
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    Last nights Falcons game confirmed the coach speak for me on the Falcons that they are going to pass a lot more this year.

    I'm throwing down another unit on each of the Matt Ryan bets vs Romo

    Ryan +1.5 vs Romo in TD's
    Ryan +99.5 vs Romo in passing yards


    Also the site is up but not really functional yet, the guy doing it for me is traveling so hasn't had a lot of time.

    site is www.ffslickpicks.com

    If you want the stats in the mean time feel free to PM your email and I can get them to you.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 10, 2012 - 7:18 PM ET #6

    i can vouch for swirv.  followed and played his plays. 
    matthew stafford over completions won me a lot of $

    gl this year
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    i can vouch for swirv.  followed and played his plays. 
    matthew stafford over completions won me a lot of $

    gl this year
     
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    Posted: Aug. 10, 2012 - 10:17 PM ET #7

    Quote Originally Posted by jefff:

    i can vouch for swirv.  followed and played his plays. 
    matthew stafford over completions won me a lot of $

    gl this year


    Thanks jefff.  Best of Luck to you also
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    Quote Originally Posted by jefff:

    i can vouch for swirv.  followed and played his plays. 
    matthew stafford over completions won me a lot of $

    gl this year


    Thanks jefff.  Best of Luck to you also
     
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    Posted: Aug. 11, 2012 - 2:02 AM ET #8

    I am fantasy guru as well. The question I have is why are you betting Ryan over Romo? Is this the only prop with Ryan offered? If thats the case I get it but besides that reason I wouldnt want to bet against Romo......He may not win playoff games but he puts up good numbers in the regular season.

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    I am fantasy guru as well. The question I have is why are you betting Ryan over Romo? Is this the only prop with Ryan offered? If thats the case I get it but besides that reason I wouldnt want to bet against Romo......He may not win playoff games but he puts up good numbers in the regular season.

     
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    Posted: Aug. 11, 2012 - 8:48 AM ET #9

    Quote Originally Posted by sniper777:

    I am fantasy guru as well. The question I have is why are you betting Ryan over Romo? Is this the only prop with Ryan offered? If thats the case I get it but besides that reason I wouldnt want to bet against Romo......He may not win playoff games but he puts up good numbers in the regular season.



    There are other props with Ryan, but  they don't have as much of a discrepancy as the one's with Romo.  To me this means Ryan is undervalued and Romo is overvalued.

    Some of the other Ryan props were

    Ryan +500.5 vs Stafford

    I had Ryan at 4488 vs Stafford of 4901 so that was only 87.5 yards difference

    Ryan +2.5 TD's vs Brees

    I had Ryan at 33 Brees with 37 so only 2.5 in Ryan's favor

    Ryan +0 vs Eli

    I had Eli with 31 Ryan with 33 so only 2 in Ryans favor.


    Also I'm not denying Romo isn't a good QB, the yards I have him projected for are the 2nd highest he has ever had next to his 2009 season of 4483.

    Last year Dallas had 574 attempts while Atlanta had 594.  I expect those number to be about the same with Atlanta maybe going higher based on their pass first offense they are now talking about implementing.

    Finally although he plays through a lot Romo has not exactly been a bill of health the past 4 years, while Ryan has only missed 2 games in the past 4 years
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    Quote Originally Posted by sniper777:

    I am fantasy guru as well. The question I have is why are you betting Ryan over Romo? Is this the only prop with Ryan offered? If thats the case I get it but besides that reason I wouldnt want to bet against Romo......He may not win playoff games but he puts up good numbers in the regular season.



    There are other props with Ryan, but  they don't have as much of a discrepancy as the one's with Romo.  To me this means Ryan is undervalued and Romo is overvalued.

    Some of the other Ryan props were

    Ryan +500.5 vs Stafford

    I had Ryan at 4488 vs Stafford of 4901 so that was only 87.5 yards difference

    Ryan +2.5 TD's vs Brees

    I had Ryan at 33 Brees with 37 so only 2.5 in Ryan's favor

    Ryan +0 vs Eli

    I had Eli with 31 Ryan with 33 so only 2 in Ryans favor.


    Also I'm not denying Romo isn't a good QB, the yards I have him projected for are the 2nd highest he has ever had next to his 2009 season of 4483.

    Last year Dallas had 574 attempts while Atlanta had 594.  I expect those number to be about the same with Atlanta maybe going higher based on their pass first offense they are now talking about implementing.

    Finally although he plays through a lot Romo has not exactly been a bill of health the past 4 years, while Ryan has only missed 2 games in the past 4 years
     
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    Posted: Aug. 13, 2012 - 8:22 PM ET #10

    Sorry link is wrong to the fantasy football stats in case anyone wants to see the team by team projections in excel.

    https://ffslickpicks.com


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    Sorry link is wrong to the fantasy football stats in case anyone wants to see the team by team projections in excel.

    https://ffslickpicks.com


     
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    Posted: Aug. 22, 2012 - 10:41 PM ET #11

    Adding two plays.  Wanted to hop on the MJD ones they had but they took those down.

    Romo's receivers are all dead with Austin, Dez and Witten all hurt.  I think he is really going to struggle

    Tom Brady -4.5 vs Tony Romo most passing TD's
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    Adding 1 units to the Julio Jones +1.5 TD's vs Mike Wallace (Now at -150)
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    Adding two plays.  Wanted to hop on the MJD ones they had but they took those down.

    Romo's receivers are all dead with Austin, Dez and Witten all hurt.  I think he is really going to struggle

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    Adding 1 units to the Julio Jones +1.5 TD's vs Mike Wallace (Now at -150)
     
     
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    Posted: Dec. 24, 2012 - 9:23 PM ET #12

    Looks to be mostly done and pretty much a wash at 9-6 and maybe +.5 units won.  That is a lot of money tied up for a long period of time but oh well I would probably do it again.

     

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    Looks to be mostly done and pretty much a wash at 9-6 and maybe +.5 units won.  That is a lot of money tied up for a long period of time but oh well I would probably do it again.

     

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