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    IgetMoney101
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    Posted: Sep. 7, 2011 - 2:58 PM ET #51

    Quote Originally Posted by Ktrain:

    Was that during the time they went to Philly and won the NFC title game? No I dont remember it and I really don't care about it. Maybe if it was December I would care, but it's not. It's going to be nice weather in G.B.(most likely).

     

    Fact of the matter is that some trends are valuable in wagering.  Look up trend in the dictionary  trend- to show a tendency

    brees has a tendency to lose outdoors on grass in road games.  Good luck to you 
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ktrain:

    Was that during the time they went to Philly and won the NFC title game? No I dont remember it and I really don't care about it. Maybe if it was December I would care, but it's not. It's going to be nice weather in G.B.(most likely).

     

    Fact of the matter is that some trends are valuable in wagering.  Look up trend in the dictionary  trend- to show a tendency

    brees has a tendency to lose outdoors on grass in road games.  Good luck to you 
     
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    Posted: Sep. 7, 2011 - 3:00 PM ET #52

    Quote Originally Posted by Ktrain:

    That 2001 season is really going to play a factor in tomorrows game.



    I have no idea why people look at trends from such far back. I wonder how many players or members of the coaching staff are still on the team from 2001. These types of trends have no effect on the game but when they win or lose they'll add it to the stat and continue it like its the same team since 2000.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ktrain:

    That 2001 season is really going to play a factor in tomorrows game.



    I have no idea why people look at trends from such far back. I wonder how many players or members of the coaching staff are still on the team from 2001. These types of trends have no effect on the game but when they win or lose they'll add it to the stat and continue it like its the same team since 2000.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 7, 2011 - 3:03 PM ET #53

    Quote Originally Posted by IgetMoney101:

    Fact of the matter is that some trends are valuable in wagering.  Look up trend in the dictionary  trend- to show a tendency

    brees has a tendency to lose outdoors on grass in road games.  Good luck to you 


    I agree some trends are worth looking at. But one since 2000? or one on grass that isn't even accurate...? You can find trends about both teams that will make them look good or bad going into a game thats why I only look at a few certain types of trends. Oh and you said 9-16 on grass.......

    "New Orleans Saints Trends:
    When playing in September are 7-3
    Past 5 meetings with Packers played OVER
    When playing on grass are 8-2
    After outgaining opponent are 6-4
    When playing outside the division are 6-4"

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    Quote Originally Posted by IgetMoney101:

    Fact of the matter is that some trends are valuable in wagering.  Look up trend in the dictionary  trend- to show a tendency

    brees has a tendency to lose outdoors on grass in road games.  Good luck to you 


    I agree some trends are worth looking at. But one since 2000? or one on grass that isn't even accurate...? You can find trends about both teams that will make them look good or bad going into a game thats why I only look at a few certain types of trends. Oh and you said 9-16 on grass.......

    "New Orleans Saints Trends:
    When playing in September are 7-3
    Past 5 meetings with Packers played OVER
    When playing on grass are 8-2
    After outgaining opponent are 6-4
    When playing outside the division are 6-4"

     
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    Posted: Sep. 7, 2011 - 3:05 PM ET #54

    For example:

    "Past 5 meetings with Packers played OVER"

    but

    - Under is 9-3 in Saints last 12 games in Week 1.
    - Under is 6-1 in Packers last seven games in Week 1.

    So which trend applies here? People over-analyze trends a little too much in their handicapping I think
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    For example:

    "Past 5 meetings with Packers played OVER"

    but

    - Under is 9-3 in Saints last 12 games in Week 1.
    - Under is 6-1 in Packers last seven games in Week 1.

    So which trend applies here? People over-analyze trends a little too much in their handicapping I think
     
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    Posted: Sep. 7, 2011 - 3:09 PM ET #55

    Quote Originally Posted by LeagueCapper:

    For example:

    "Past 5 meetings with Packers played OVER"

    but

    - Under is 9-3 in Saints last 12 games in Week 1.
    - Under is 6-1 in Packers last seven games in Week 1.

    So which trend applies here? People over-analyze trends a little too much in their handicapping I think
    I agree with you that certain trends are useless but you have to narrow down your search to the matchup. New Orleans on the road on grass is right down to what the situation is i believe and them being 9-16 ATS is pretty important and a lot of those losses are straight up and the fact that it is since 2007 since Brees got there is important. There arent too many qb's in the league like him but the guys around him are interchangeable. Just my two cents.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LeagueCapper:

    For example:

    "Past 5 meetings with Packers played OVER"

    but

    - Under is 9-3 in Saints last 12 games in Week 1.
    - Under is 6-1 in Packers last seven games in Week 1.

    So which trend applies here? People over-analyze trends a little too much in their handicapping I think
    I agree with you that certain trends are useless but you have to narrow down your search to the matchup. New Orleans on the road on grass is right down to what the situation is i believe and them being 9-16 ATS is pretty important and a lot of those losses are straight up and the fact that it is since 2007 since Brees got there is important. There arent too many qb's in the league like him but the guys around him are interchangeable. Just my two cents.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 7, 2011 - 3:11 PM ET #56

    i'm with ya on the saints +180, don't really have a lean on the total
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    i'm with ya on the saints +180, don't really have a lean on the total
     
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    Posted: Sep. 7, 2011 - 3:11 PM ET #57

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    Posted: Sep. 7, 2011 - 3:17 PM ET #58

    Quote Originally Posted by IgetMoney101:

    I agree with you that certain trends are useless but you have to narrow down your search to the matchup. New Orleans on the road on grass is right down to what the situation is i believe and them being 9-16 ATS is pretty important and a lot of those losses are straight up and the fact that it is since 2007 since Brees got there is important. There arent too many qb's in the league like him but the guys around him are interchangeable. Just my two cents.


    So saints are 9-16 on the road on grass... Saints are also 15-4 there last 19 road games, so....? In other words blah blah blah I can go on and on about trends that counter kill each other.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IgetMoney101:

    I agree with you that certain trends are useless but you have to narrow down your search to the matchup. New Orleans on the road on grass is right down to what the situation is i believe and them being 9-16 ATS is pretty important and a lot of those losses are straight up and the fact that it is since 2007 since Brees got there is important. There arent too many qb's in the league like him but the guys around him are interchangeable. Just my two cents.


    So saints are 9-16 on the road on grass... Saints are also 15-4 there last 19 road games, so....? In other words blah blah blah I can go on and on about trends that counter kill each other.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 7, 2011 - 3:20 PM ET #59

    Quote Originally Posted by LeagueCapper:



    So saints are 9-16 on the road on grass... Saints are also 15-4 there last 19 road games, so....? In other words blah blah blah I can go on and on about trends that counter kill each other.
    Yes they are 15-4 last 19 road games BUT they are playing outdoors on grass  these is more specific than just a road game. Road games can consist of domes or turf  but GB is neither. I'm just breaking it down a bit further. I understand not everyone will consider it important.
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    So saints are 9-16 on the road on grass... Saints are also 15-4 there last 19 road games, so....? In other words blah blah blah I can go on and on about trends that counter kill each other.
    Yes they are 15-4 last 19 road games BUT they are playing outdoors on grass  these is more specific than just a road game. Road games can consist of domes or turf  but GB is neither. I'm just breaking it down a bit further. I understand not everyone will consider it important.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 7, 2011 - 3:24 PM ET #60

    Quote Originally Posted by IgetMoney101:

    Yes they are 15-4 last 19 road games BUT they are playing outdoors on grass  these is more specific than just a road game. Road games can consist of domes or turf  but GB is neither. I'm just breaking it down a bit further. I understand not everyone will consider it important.


    Just wondering, do you have a play on the Packers? Best of luck either way to you, wasn't trying to be rude earlier.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IgetMoney101:

    Yes they are 15-4 last 19 road games BUT they are playing outdoors on grass  these is more specific than just a road game. Road games can consist of domes or turf  but GB is neither. I'm just breaking it down a bit further. I understand not everyone will consider it important.


    Just wondering, do you have a play on the Packers? Best of luck either way to you, wasn't trying to be rude earlier.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 7, 2011 - 3:26 PM ET #61

    Quote Originally Posted by LeagueCapper:



    Just wondering, do you have a play on the Packers? Best of luck either way to you, wasn't trying to be rude earlier.
    Yes i am on the Packers. Best of luck to you too    I was trying to be an ass myself  just trying to get my point across. We will see if any of this babble will hold true tomorrow night
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    Just wondering, do you have a play on the Packers? Best of luck either way to you, wasn't trying to be rude earlier.
    Yes i am on the Packers. Best of luck to you too    I was trying to be an ass myself  just trying to get my point across. We will see if any of this babble will hold true tomorrow night
     
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    Ahhh I saw it. Saints an indoor finesse team. True enough in some years past. The saints that lost to Seattle were a banged up bunch. A mash unit and shadow of themselves. I took seattle that week as it was just a perfect setup for them.

    Mark Ingram was drafted to knock that finesse shit off. The new big fatboys were signed in free agency to keep that run game neutralized. The Saints posess a great o line and now we have a d line to go with that. We finally have a healthy bunch of LB's to go with a great secondary.

    GB Run game certainly does not scare me and the Saints Greg Williams will be blitzing his ass off to get to Aron Rogers.

    GB has a nice D but Saints have weapons at EVERY skill position. The WR's go 6 deep on this team and Graham is a BEAST at TE! Ingram and a healthy Pierre Thomas are ghreat backs and Darren Sproles on third down and returning kicks is a stud.

    Taking the points and teasing the shit out of the Saints and Over.

    I love the Pack and think this is going to be a preview into the NFC Championship. Should be fun to watch and I am on my way to Lambeau in the morning.

    Enjoy!!

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    Ahhh I saw it. Saints an indoor finesse team. True enough in some years past. The saints that lost to Seattle were a banged up bunch. A mash unit and shadow of themselves. I took seattle that week as it was just a perfect setup for them.

    Mark Ingram was drafted to knock that finesse shit off. The new big fatboys were signed in free agency to keep that run game neutralized. The Saints posess a great o line and now we have a d line to go with that. We finally have a healthy bunch of LB's to go with a great secondary.

    GB Run game certainly does not scare me and the Saints Greg Williams will be blitzing his ass off to get to Aron Rogers.

    GB has a nice D but Saints have weapons at EVERY skill position. The WR's go 6 deep on this team and Graham is a BEAST at TE! Ingram and a healthy Pierre Thomas are ghreat backs and Darren Sproles on third down and returning kicks is a stud.

    Taking the points and teasing the shit out of the Saints and Over.

    I love the Pack and think this is going to be a preview into the NFC Championship. Should be fun to watch and I am on my way to Lambeau in the morning.

    Enjoy!!

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saint_John:

    Ahhh I saw it. Saints an indoor finesse team. True enough in some years past. The saints that lost to Seattle were a banged up bunch. A mash unit and shadow of themselves. I took seattle that week as it was just a perfect setup for them.

    Mark Ingram was drafted to knock that finesse shit off. The new big fatboys were signed in free agency to keep that run game neutralized. The Saints posess a great o line and now we have a d line to go with that. We finally have a healthy bunch of LB's to go with a great secondary.

    GB Run game certainly does not scare me and the Saints Greg Williams will be blitzing his ass off to get to Aron Rogers.

    GB has a nice D but Saints have weapons at EVERY skill position. The WR's go 6 deep on this team and Graham is a BEAST at TE! Ingram and a healthy Pierre Thomas are ghreat backs and Darren Sproles on third down and returning kicks is a stud.

    Taking the points and teasing the shit out of the Saints and Over.

    I love the Pack and think this is going to be a preview into the NFC Championship. Should be fun to watch and I am on my way to Lambeau in the morning.

    Enjoy!!




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    Ahhh I saw it. Saints an indoor finesse team. True enough in some years past. The saints that lost to Seattle were a banged up bunch. A mash unit and shadow of themselves. I took seattle that week as it was just a perfect setup for them.

    Mark Ingram was drafted to knock that finesse shit off. The new big fatboys were signed in free agency to keep that run game neutralized. The Saints posess a great o line and now we have a d line to go with that. We finally have a healthy bunch of LB's to go with a great secondary.

    GB Run game certainly does not scare me and the Saints Greg Williams will be blitzing his ass off to get to Aron Rogers.

    GB has a nice D but Saints have weapons at EVERY skill position. The WR's go 6 deep on this team and Graham is a BEAST at TE! Ingram and a healthy Pierre Thomas are ghreat backs and Darren Sproles on third down and returning kicks is a stud.

    Taking the points and teasing the shit out of the Saints and Over.

    I love the Pack and think this is going to be a preview into the NFC Championship. Should be fun to watch and I am on my way to Lambeau in the morning.

    Enjoy!!




     
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    Posted: Sep. 7, 2011 - 3:35 PM ET #64

    Quote Originally Posted by sports2easy:

     

    EAT A DICK YOUR A BIASED SAINTS FAN...
    PACKERS WILL COVER THE SPREA. I SWEAR ON MY DAUGHTERS LIFE



    DAMN, TAKE A CHILL PILL. IT'S ONLY A GAME.........
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    EAT A DICK YOUR A BIASED SAINTS FAN...
    PACKERS WILL COVER THE SPREA. I SWEAR ON MY DAUGHTERS LIFE



    DAMN, TAKE A CHILL PILL. IT'S ONLY A GAME.........
     
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    Posted: Sep. 7, 2011 - 3:45 PM ET #65

    What I can figure out is no ones talking bout the total..at 47.5. Does no one see this will be an over? I suspect and think as good as these teams are, it should hit 40 at the half. 21-20. This is anyones game. It will be the flip of a coin...literally. Whoever scores last IMO. Thoughts
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    What I can figure out is no ones talking bout the total..at 47.5. Does no one see this will be an over? I suspect and think as good as these teams are, it should hit 40 at the half. 21-20. This is anyones game. It will be the flip of a coin...literally. Whoever scores last IMO. Thoughts
     
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    Posted: Sep. 7, 2011 - 3:48 PM ET #66

    Quote Originally Posted by ghostbuster:

    What I can figure out is no ones talking bout the total..at 47.5. Does no one see this will be an over? I suspect and think as good as these teams are, it should hit 40 at the half. 21-20. This is anyones game. It will be the flip of a coin...literally. Whoever scores last IMO. Thoughts
    I'm not sure how ready the offenses will be since they miss team practices do to the lockout. GB did not hold individual practices in the offseason. Will they be as sharp in the passing game as they will in October? You can't sleep on GB's defense either. Can either team run the ball at all or will they be throwing it 70% of the time. I do lean the over but I'm not sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ghostbuster:

    What I can figure out is no ones talking bout the total..at 47.5. Does no one see this will be an over? I suspect and think as good as these teams are, it should hit 40 at the half. 21-20. This is anyones game. It will be the flip of a coin...literally. Whoever scores last IMO. Thoughts
    I'm not sure how ready the offenses will be since they miss team practices do to the lockout. GB did not hold individual practices in the offseason. Will they be as sharp in the passing game as they will in October? You can't sleep on GB's defense either. Can either team run the ball at all or will they be throwing it 70% of the time. I do lean the over but I'm not sure.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 7, 2011 - 3:54 PM ET #67

    Quote Originally Posted by ghostbuster:

    What I can figure out is no ones talking bout the total..at 47.5. Does no one see this will be an over? I suspect and think as good as these teams are, it should hit 40 at the half. 21-20. This is anyones game. It will be the flip of a coin...literally. Whoever scores last IMO. Thoughts


    You would think that but mostly these thursday openers have been unders. The idea is teams had all offseason to prepare for each other.

    Thursday Game 1's

    2008 - Giants 16 Redskins 7    Under
    2009 - Steelers 13 Titans 10    Under
    2010 - Saints 14 Vikings 9      Under

    - Under is 9-3 in Saints last 12 games in Week 1.
    - Under is 6-1 in Packers last seven games in Week 1.

    Also 84% of public on the over. I was going to make a play on the under but the whole lockout situation deterred me from doing so. Things could be different since they didn't have as much time to prepare. Pass for me.
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    What I can figure out is no ones talking bout the total..at 47.5. Does no one see this will be an over? I suspect and think as good as these teams are, it should hit 40 at the half. 21-20. This is anyones game. It will be the flip of a coin...literally. Whoever scores last IMO. Thoughts


    You would think that but mostly these thursday openers have been unders. The idea is teams had all offseason to prepare for each other.

    Thursday Game 1's

    2008 - Giants 16 Redskins 7    Under
    2009 - Steelers 13 Titans 10    Under
    2010 - Saints 14 Vikings 9      Under

    - Under is 9-3 in Saints last 12 games in Week 1.
    - Under is 6-1 in Packers last seven games in Week 1.

    Also 84% of public on the over. I was going to make a play on the under but the whole lockout situation deterred me from doing so. Things could be different since they didn't have as much time to prepare. Pass for me.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 7, 2011 - 4:05 PM ET #68

    Quote Originally Posted by LeagueCapper:

    For example:

    "Past 5 meetings with Packers played OVER"

    but

    - Under is 9-3 in Saints last 12 games in Week 1.
    - Under is 6-1 in Packers last seven games in Week 1.

    So which trend applies here? People over-analyze trends a little too much in their handicapping I think



    Where can I find these trends, League Capper? Let me know, thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LeagueCapper:

    For example:

    "Past 5 meetings with Packers played OVER"

    but

    - Under is 9-3 in Saints last 12 games in Week 1.
    - Under is 6-1 in Packers last seven games in Week 1.

    So which trend applies here? People over-analyze trends a little too much in their handicapping I think



    Where can I find these trends, League Capper? Let me know, thanks.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 7, 2011 - 4:08 PM ET #69

    LMAO at the best secondary in the league all of the sudden a liability after watching some preseason games with VANILLA SCHEMES being used.

    With that said, I'll gladly cross zero and take a 7 point teaser ties win bet and take the champs at +3 and over 40. -128 to win 100
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    LMAO at the best secondary in the league all of the sudden a liability after watching some preseason games with VANILLA SCHEMES being used.

    With that said, I'll gladly cross zero and take a 7 point teaser ties win bet and take the champs at +3 and over 40. -128 to win 100
     
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    Posted: Sep. 7, 2011 - 4:17 PM ET #70

    Quote Originally Posted by sports2easy:

    PACKERS ARE A LOCK!!!!!!!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by sports2easy:

    PACKERS ARE A LOCK!!!!!!!!


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    Posted: Sep. 7, 2011 - 4:25 PM ET #71

    Wow I told myself I wouldn't do teasers anymore but look at the odds on this one....

    Saints +10.5, Chargers -2.5, Patriots -0.5   +160 odds

    I'll have plays and write-ups on patriots and chargers as regular plays later but seriously considering locking in this teaser before tomorrow. Teaser's always bite me in the ass though so still contemplating it.
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    Wow I told myself I wouldn't do teasers anymore but look at the odds on this one....

    Saints +10.5, Chargers -2.5, Patriots -0.5   +160 odds

    I'll have plays and write-ups on patriots and chargers as regular plays later but seriously considering locking in this teaser before tomorrow. Teaser's always bite me in the ass though so still contemplating it.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 7, 2011 - 4:34 PM ET #72

    League Capper,

    Can you PM the site, if you can?

    Thanks.
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    League Capper,

    Can you PM the site, if you can?

    Thanks.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 7, 2011 - 4:44 PM ET #73

    Quote Originally Posted by mp5070:

    League Capper,

    Can you PM the site, if you can?

    Thanks.


    Friend me so I can send ya a PM
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    Quote Originally Posted by mp5070:

    League Capper,

    Can you PM the site, if you can?

    Thanks.


    Friend me so I can send ya a PM
     
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    Posted: Sep. 7, 2011 - 5:24 PM ET #74

    Quote Originally Posted by sports2easy:

     

    EAT A DICK YOUR A BIASED SAINTS FAN...
    PACKERS WILL COVER THE SPREA. I SWEAR ON MY DAUGHTERS LIFE


    Riiigggggghhhhhhhtttttttttttttttttttttt.

    You need help.  Seriously - to say you'd swear on your daughter's life over a bet that you have ZERO control over - you're clearly in the running for worst father of the year.


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    Quote Originally Posted by sports2easy:

     

    EAT A DICK YOUR A BIASED SAINTS FAN...
    PACKERS WILL COVER THE SPREA. I SWEAR ON MY DAUGHTERS LIFE


    Riiigggggghhhhhhhtttttttttttttttttttttt.

    You need help.  Seriously - to say you'd swear on your daughter's life over a bet that you have ZERO control over - you're clearly in the running for worst father of the year.


     
     
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    Posted: Sep. 7, 2011 - 5:27 PM ET #75

    Quote Originally Posted by _keyser_soze_:


    Riiigggggghhhhhhhtttttttttttttttttttttt.

    You need help.  Seriously - to say you'd swear on your daughter's life over a bet that you have ZERO control over - you're clearly in the running for worst father of the year.





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    Quote Originally Posted by _keyser_soze_:


    Riiigggggghhhhhhhtttttttttttttttttttttt.

    You need help.  Seriously - to say you'd swear on your daughter's life over a bet that you have ZERO control over - you're clearly in the running for worst father of the year.





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